HELP!!!!84 Honda ignition problems..!
 

HI when I turn the key on every thing turns on such as fan music
lights,all the normal things but,the starter wont turnover,utill I
try over and over again then finally the starter will engage and start
the car,I took out the key portion of the ignition to were I can use a
screwdriver but the problem is the same so I put the key part of the
ignition back in,,,,,,do you think mabey the starter is starting to
go? it souds fine when finally it does engage ,I think some wires
might need replacing or something,,,,,,Any advice????????? coil?
starter?

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Re: HELP!!!!84 Honda ignition problems..!
 

On Jan 27, 9:25 pm, crom <n...@000.com> wrote:
> HI when I turn the key on every thing turns on such as fan music
> lights,all the normal things but,the starter wont turnover,utill I
> try over and over again then finally the starter will engage and start
> the car,I took out the key portion of the ignition to were I can use a
> screwdriver but the problem is the same so I put the key part of the
> ignition back in,,,,,,do you think mabey the starter is starting to
> go? it souds fine when finally it does engage ,I think some wires
> might need replacing or something,,,,,,Any advice????????? coil?
> starter?

If it's not the switch, it's most likely the solenoid on the starter.
The contacts wear, and are no longer making a good connection.
MK

Re: HELP!!!!84 Honda ignition problems..!
 

On Jan 27, 9:25 pm, crom <n...@000.com> wrote:
> HI when I turn the key on every thing turns on such as fan music
> lights,all the normal things but,the starter wont turnover,utill I
> try over and over again then finally the starter will engage and start
> the car,I took out the key portion of the ignition to were I can use a
> screwdriver but the problem is the same so I put the key part of the
> ignition back in,,,,,,do you think mabey the starter is starting to
> go? it souds fine when finally it does engage ,I think some wires
> might need replacing or something,,,,,,Any advice????????? coil?
> starter?

If it's not the switch, it's most likely the solenoid on the starter.
The contacts wear, and are no longer making a good connection.
MK

Re: HELP!!!!84 Honda ignition problems..!
 

On Jan 27, 9:25 pm, crom <n...@000.com> wrote:
> HI when I turn the key on every thing turns on such as fan music
> lights,all the normal things but,the starter wont turnover,utill I
> try over and over again then finally the starter will engage and start
> the car,I took out the key portion of the ignition to were I can use a
> screwdriver but the problem is the same so I put the key part of the
> ignition back in,,,,,,do you think mabey the starter is starting to
> go? it souds fine when finally it does engage ,I think some wires
> might need replacing or something,,,,,,Any advice????????? coil?
> starter?

If it's not the switch, it's most likely the solenoid on the starter.
The contacts wear, and are no longer making a good connection.
MK

Re: HELP!!!!84 Honda ignition problems..!
 

On Jan 27, 9:25 pm, crom <n...@000.com> wrote:
> HI when I turn the key on every thing turns on such as fan music
> lights,all the normal things but,the starter wont turnover,utill I
> try over and over again then finally the starter will engage and start
> the car,I took out the key portion of the ignition to were I can use a
> screwdriver but the problem is the same so I put the key part of the
> ignition back in,,,,,,do you think mabey the starter is starting to
> go? it souds fine when finally it does engage ,I think some wires
> might need replacing or something,,,,,,Any advice????????? coil?
> starter?

If it's not the switch, it's most likely the solenoid on the starter.
The contacts wear, and are no longer making a good connection.
MK

Re: HELP!!!!84 Honda ignition problems..!
 

nm5k@wt.net wrote in
news:1169955510.572468.55630@p10g2000cwp.googlegro ups.com:

>
>
> On Jan 27, 9:25 pm, crom <n...@000.com> wrote:
>> HI when I turn the key on every thing turns on such as fan music
>> lights,all the normal things but,the starter wont turnover,utill I
>> try over and over again then finally the starter will engage and start
>> the car,I took out the key portion of the ignition to were I can use a
>> screwdriver but the problem is the same so I put the key part of the
>> ignition back in,,,,,,do you think mabey the starter is starting to
>> go? it souds fine when finally it does engage ,I think some wires
>> might need replacing or something,,,,,,Any advice????????? coil?
>> starter?
>
> If it's not the switch, it's most likely the solenoid on the starter.
> The contacts wear, and are no longer making a good connection.
> MK
>

I had the same problem on my 94Integra. Some Honda starters allow
replacement of the starter solenoid,some don't.Mine didn't,but I found a
place online that sold me the rebuild parts for the solenoid,only $30 PPD.

www.nationsautoelectric.com

It was a bitch getting the lower starter bolt out(no room for a big enough
wrench),it was frozen into the block.I'd use anti-seize on the bolt threads
when reinstalling it.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: HELP!!!!84 Honda ignition problems..!
 

nm5k@wt.net wrote in
news:1169955510.572468.55630@p10g2000cwp.googlegro ups.com:

>
>
> On Jan 27, 9:25 pm, crom <n...@000.com> wrote:
>> HI when I turn the key on every thing turns on such as fan music
>> lights,all the normal things but,the starter wont turnover,utill I
>> try over and over again then finally the starter will engage and start
>> the car,I took out the key portion of the ignition to were I can use a
>> screwdriver but the problem is the same so I put the key part of the
>> ignition back in,,,,,,do you think mabey the starter is starting to
>> go? it souds fine when finally it does engage ,I think some wires
>> might need replacing or something,,,,,,Any advice????????? coil?
>> starter?
>
> If it's not the switch, it's most likely the solenoid on the starter.
> The contacts wear, and are no longer making a good connection.
> MK
>

I had the same problem on my 94Integra. Some Honda starters allow
replacement of the starter solenoid,some don't.Mine didn't,but I found a
place online that sold me the rebuild parts for the solenoid,only $30 PPD.

www.nationsautoelectric.com

It was a bitch getting the lower starter bolt out(no room for a big enough
wrench),it was frozen into the block.I'd use anti-seize on the bolt threads
when reinstalling it.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: HELP!!!!84 Honda ignition problems..!
 

nm5k@wt.net wrote in
news:1169955510.572468.55630@p10g2000cwp.googlegro ups.com:

>
>
> On Jan 27, 9:25 pm, crom <n...@000.com> wrote:
>> HI when I turn the key on every thing turns on such as fan music
>> lights,all the normal things but,the starter wont turnover,utill I
>> try over and over again then finally the starter will engage and start
>> the car,I took out the key portion of the ignition to were I can use a
>> screwdriver but the problem is the same so I put the key part of the
>> ignition back in,,,,,,do you think mabey the starter is starting to
>> go? it souds fine when finally it does engage ,I think some wires
>> might need replacing or something,,,,,,Any advice????????? coil?
>> starter?
>
> If it's not the switch, it's most likely the solenoid on the starter.
> The contacts wear, and are no longer making a good connection.
> MK
>

I had the same problem on my 94Integra. Some Honda starters allow
replacement of the starter solenoid,some don't.Mine didn't,but I found a
place online that sold me the rebuild parts for the solenoid,only $30 PPD.

www.nationsautoelectric.com

It was a bitch getting the lower starter bolt out(no room for a big enough
wrench),it was frozen into the block.I'd use anti-seize on the bolt threads
when reinstalling it.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: HELP!!!!84 Honda ignition problems..!
 

nm5k@wt.net wrote in
news:1169955510.572468.55630@p10g2000cwp.googlegro ups.com:

>
>
> On Jan 27, 9:25 pm, crom <n...@000.com> wrote:
>> HI when I turn the key on every thing turns on such as fan music
>> lights,all the normal things but,the starter wont turnover,utill I
>> try over and over again then finally the starter will engage and start
>> the car,I took out the key portion of the ignition to were I can use a
>> screwdriver but the problem is the same so I put the key part of the
>> ignition back in,,,,,,do you think mabey the starter is starting to
>> go? it souds fine when finally it does engage ,I think some wires
>> might need replacing or something,,,,,,Any advice????????? coil?
>> starter?
>
> If it's not the switch, it's most likely the solenoid on the starter.
> The contacts wear, and are no longer making a good connection.
> MK
>

I had the same problem on my 94Integra. Some Honda starters allow
replacement of the starter solenoid,some don't.Mine didn't,but I found a
place online that sold me the rebuild parts for the solenoid,only $30 PPD.

www.nationsautoelectric.com

It was a bitch getting the lower starter bolt out(no room for a big enough
wrench),it was frozen into the block.I'd use anti-seize on the bolt threads
when reinstalling it.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: HELP!!!!84 Honda ignition problems..!
 

On Jan 28, 10:06 am, Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:

>
> > If it's not the switch, it's most likely the solenoid on the starter.
> > The contacts wear, and are no longer making a good connection.
> > MKI had the same problem on my 94Integra. Some Honda starters allow
> replacement of the starter solenoid,some don't.Mine didn't,but I found a
> place online that sold me the rebuild parts for the solenoid,only $30 PPD.
>
> www.nationsautoelectric.com

Yea, I just had that on mine about a month or two ago. But mine was
not a ND
starter, which is the brand that you can get parts for. Mine was the
other brand,
"starts with an "M", I'm vapor locking on the name...
You can't get parts for it. Or at least I couldn't find any. So I had
to buy a rebuilt
starter. I kept my old still good starter motor.
I'm having some slight flywheel problems with mine. It's like the
flywheel is
out of round, or has slipped a weld on the torque converter. Every
once in a
while it hits a "hard" part where it turns real slow, almost like it's
too tight,
and needs a shim. But most of the time it's ok. I fear an eventual
torque
converter changout in the future.. That should be loads of fun..
BTW, it had that tight spot using both starters, so it's not a problem
with
the starter per say..
MK

Re: HELP!!!!84 Honda ignition problems..!
 

On Jan 28, 10:06 am, Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:

>
> > If it's not the switch, it's most likely the solenoid on the starter.
> > The contacts wear, and are no longer making a good connection.
> > MKI had the same problem on my 94Integra. Some Honda starters allow
> replacement of the starter solenoid,some don't.Mine didn't,but I found a
> place online that sold me the rebuild parts for the solenoid,only $30 PPD.
>
> www.nationsautoelectric.com

Yea, I just had that on mine about a month or two ago. But mine was
not a ND
starter, which is the brand that you can get parts for. Mine was the
other brand,
"starts with an "M", I'm vapor locking on the name...
You can't get parts for it. Or at least I couldn't find any. So I had
to buy a rebuilt
starter. I kept my old still good starter motor.
I'm having some slight flywheel problems with mine. It's like the
flywheel is
out of round, or has slipped a weld on the torque converter. Every
once in a
while it hits a "hard" part where it turns real slow, almost like it's
too tight,
and needs a shim. But most of the time it's ok. I fear an eventual
torque
converter changout in the future.. That should be loads of fun..
BTW, it had that tight spot using both starters, so it's not a problem
with
the starter per say..
MK

Re: HELP!!!!84 Honda ignition problems..!
 

On Jan 28, 10:06 am, Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:

>
> > If it's not the switch, it's most likely the solenoid on the starter.
> > The contacts wear, and are no longer making a good connection.
> > MKI had the same problem on my 94Integra. Some Honda starters allow
> replacement of the starter solenoid,some don't.Mine didn't,but I found a
> place online that sold me the rebuild parts for the solenoid,only $30 PPD.
>
> www.nationsautoelectric.com

Yea, I just had that on mine about a month or two ago. But mine was
not a ND
starter, which is the brand that you can get parts for. Mine was the
other brand,
"starts with an "M", I'm vapor locking on the name...
You can't get parts for it. Or at least I couldn't find any. So I had
to buy a rebuilt
starter. I kept my old still good starter motor.
I'm having some slight flywheel problems with mine. It's like the
flywheel is
out of round, or has slipped a weld on the torque converter. Every
once in a
while it hits a "hard" part where it turns real slow, almost like it's
too tight,
and needs a shim. But most of the time it's ok. I fear an eventual
torque
converter changout in the future.. That should be loads of fun..
BTW, it had that tight spot using both starters, so it's not a problem
with
the starter per say..
MK

Re: HELP!!!!84 Honda ignition problems..!
 

On Jan 28, 10:06 am, Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:

>
> > If it's not the switch, it's most likely the solenoid on the starter.
> > The contacts wear, and are no longer making a good connection.
> > MKI had the same problem on my 94Integra. Some Honda starters allow
> replacement of the starter solenoid,some don't.Mine didn't,but I found a
> place online that sold me the rebuild parts for the solenoid,only $30 PPD.
>
> www.nationsautoelectric.com

Yea, I just had that on mine about a month or two ago. But mine was
not a ND
starter, which is the brand that you can get parts for. Mine was the
other brand,
"starts with an "M", I'm vapor locking on the name...
You can't get parts for it. Or at least I couldn't find any. So I had
to buy a rebuilt
starter. I kept my old still good starter motor.
I'm having some slight flywheel problems with mine. It's like the
flywheel is
out of round, or has slipped a weld on the torque converter. Every
once in a
while it hits a "hard" part where it turns real slow, almost like it's
too tight,
and needs a shim. But most of the time it's ok. I fear an eventual
torque
converter changout in the future.. That should be loads of fun..
BTW, it had that tight spot using both starters, so it's not a problem
with
the starter per say..
MK