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Help: 91 Civic Si, stalled...
This morning I was cruising to Grandma's for Thanksgiving dinner. Had been
driving for two hours and the engine cuts out. Will crank, but not start. I tried intermittently for 30 minutes waiting for a ride, no luck. Several hours later, I go back to where we left the car. At first nothing, but on the third try it fired right up, and had no problems driving 20 miles into town. I'm leaning toward the ignition as the culprit. When it first cut out, the tach died immediately, before I pushed in the clutch. A similar event happened a few weeks ago. It stalled and wouldn't start for five minutes. That time I thought I had just let out the clutch wrong and perhaps flooded it, but in retrospect I think it was probably the same problem as today. I should mention that the previous owner had the distributor replaced (at the dealer) only 4000 miles ago. I have the dealer service records on it. Would a distributor replacement typically include a new coil and igniter? Is it likely that either of those could cause these symptoms? What about the main relay? Or is that only the culprit on fuel pump problems? Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Jason |
Re: Help: 91 Civic Si, stalled...
Hi,
Moisture on ignition circuit? Tony Jason Faas wrote: > This morning I was cruising to Grandma's for Thanksgiving dinner. Had been > driving for two hours and the engine cuts out. Will crank, but not start. > I tried intermittently for 30 minutes waiting for a ride, no luck. > > Several hours later, I go back to where we left the car. At first nothing, > but on the third try it fired right up, and had no problems driving 20 miles > into town. > > I'm leaning toward the ignition as the culprit. When it first cut out, the > tach died immediately, before I pushed in the clutch. > > A similar event happened a few weeks ago. It stalled and wouldn't start for > five minutes. That time I thought I had just let out the clutch wrong and > perhaps flooded it, but in retrospect I think it was probably the same > problem as today. > > I should mention that the previous owner had the distributor replaced (at > the dealer) only 4000 miles ago. I have the dealer service records on it. > Would a distributor replacement typically include a new coil and igniter? > > Is it likely that either of those could cause these symptoms? > > What about the main relay? Or is that only the culprit on fuel pump > problems? > > > Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Jason > |
Re: Help: 91 Civic Si, stalled...
Hi,
Moisture on ignition circuit? Tony Jason Faas wrote: > This morning I was cruising to Grandma's for Thanksgiving dinner. Had been > driving for two hours and the engine cuts out. Will crank, but not start. > I tried intermittently for 30 minutes waiting for a ride, no luck. > > Several hours later, I go back to where we left the car. At first nothing, > but on the third try it fired right up, and had no problems driving 20 miles > into town. > > I'm leaning toward the ignition as the culprit. When it first cut out, the > tach died immediately, before I pushed in the clutch. > > A similar event happened a few weeks ago. It stalled and wouldn't start for > five minutes. That time I thought I had just let out the clutch wrong and > perhaps flooded it, but in retrospect I think it was probably the same > problem as today. > > I should mention that the previous owner had the distributor replaced (at > the dealer) only 4000 miles ago. I have the dealer service records on it. > Would a distributor replacement typically include a new coil and igniter? > > Is it likely that either of those could cause these symptoms? > > What about the main relay? Or is that only the culprit on fuel pump > problems? > > > Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Jason > |
Re: Help: 91 Civic Si, stalled...
Hi,
Moisture on ignition circuit? Tony Jason Faas wrote: > This morning I was cruising to Grandma's for Thanksgiving dinner. Had been > driving for two hours and the engine cuts out. Will crank, but not start. > I tried intermittently for 30 minutes waiting for a ride, no luck. > > Several hours later, I go back to where we left the car. At first nothing, > but on the third try it fired right up, and had no problems driving 20 miles > into town. > > I'm leaning toward the ignition as the culprit. When it first cut out, the > tach died immediately, before I pushed in the clutch. > > A similar event happened a few weeks ago. It stalled and wouldn't start for > five minutes. That time I thought I had just let out the clutch wrong and > perhaps flooded it, but in retrospect I think it was probably the same > problem as today. > > I should mention that the previous owner had the distributor replaced (at > the dealer) only 4000 miles ago. I have the dealer service records on it. > Would a distributor replacement typically include a new coil and igniter? > > Is it likely that either of those could cause these symptoms? > > What about the main relay? Or is that only the culprit on fuel pump > problems? > > > Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Jason > |
Re: Help: 91 Civic Si, stalled...
Hi,
Moisture on ignition circuit? Tony Jason Faas wrote: > This morning I was cruising to Grandma's for Thanksgiving dinner. Had been > driving for two hours and the engine cuts out. Will crank, but not start. > I tried intermittently for 30 minutes waiting for a ride, no luck. > > Several hours later, I go back to where we left the car. At first nothing, > but on the third try it fired right up, and had no problems driving 20 miles > into town. > > I'm leaning toward the ignition as the culprit. When it first cut out, the > tach died immediately, before I pushed in the clutch. > > A similar event happened a few weeks ago. It stalled and wouldn't start for > five minutes. That time I thought I had just let out the clutch wrong and > perhaps flooded it, but in retrospect I think it was probably the same > problem as today. > > I should mention that the previous owner had the distributor replaced (at > the dealer) only 4000 miles ago. I have the dealer service records on it. > Would a distributor replacement typically include a new coil and igniter? > > Is it likely that either of those could cause these symptoms? > > What about the main relay? Or is that only the culprit on fuel pump > problems? > > > Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Jason > |
Re: 91 Civic Si, stalled...
> What about the main relay? Or is that only the culprit on fuel pump > problems? if your fuel pump was cut off, it would crank but not start --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.544 / Virus Database: 338 - Release Date: 11/25/2003 |
Re: 91 Civic Si, stalled...
> What about the main relay? Or is that only the culprit on fuel pump > problems? if your fuel pump was cut off, it would crank but not start --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.544 / Virus Database: 338 - Release Date: 11/25/2003 |
Re: 91 Civic Si, stalled...
> What about the main relay? Or is that only the culprit on fuel pump > problems? if your fuel pump was cut off, it would crank but not start --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.544 / Virus Database: 338 - Release Date: 11/25/2003 |
Re: 91 Civic Si, stalled...
> What about the main relay? Or is that only the culprit on fuel pump > problems? if your fuel pump was cut off, it would crank but not start --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.544 / Virus Database: 338 - Release Date: 11/25/2003 |
Re: Help: 91 Civic Si, stalled...
Jason Faas wrote:
> > This morning I was cruising to Grandma's for Thanksgiving dinner. Had been > driving for two hours and the engine cuts out. Will crank, but not start. > I tried intermittently for 30 minutes waiting for a ride, no luck. > > Several hours later, I go back to where we left the car. At first nothing, > but on the third try it fired right up, and had no problems driving 20 miles > into town. > > I'm leaning toward the ignition as the culprit. When it first cut out, the > tach died immediately, before I pushed in the clutch. > > A similar event happened a few weeks ago. It stalled and wouldn't start for > five minutes. That time I thought I had just let out the clutch wrong and > perhaps flooded it, but in retrospect I think it was probably the same > problem as today. > > I should mention that the previous owner had the distributor replaced (at > the dealer) only 4000 miles ago. I have the dealer service records on it. > Would a distributor replacement typically include a new coil and igniter? > > Is it likely that either of those could cause these symptoms? > > What about the main relay? Or is that only the culprit on fuel pump > problems? > > Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Jason ---------------------------- Jason, It sounds like the previous owner missed the signs (or his repairer did), but it's to your advantage! Just replace the Main Relay, and you'll be good for a long, long time. http://techauto.tripod.com/mainrelay.htm There are several other pages that describe your symptoms perfectly... 'Curly' --------------------- |
Re: Help: 91 Civic Si, stalled...
Jason Faas wrote:
> > This morning I was cruising to Grandma's for Thanksgiving dinner. Had been > driving for two hours and the engine cuts out. Will crank, but not start. > I tried intermittently for 30 minutes waiting for a ride, no luck. > > Several hours later, I go back to where we left the car. At first nothing, > but on the third try it fired right up, and had no problems driving 20 miles > into town. > > I'm leaning toward the ignition as the culprit. When it first cut out, the > tach died immediately, before I pushed in the clutch. > > A similar event happened a few weeks ago. It stalled and wouldn't start for > five minutes. That time I thought I had just let out the clutch wrong and > perhaps flooded it, but in retrospect I think it was probably the same > problem as today. > > I should mention that the previous owner had the distributor replaced (at > the dealer) only 4000 miles ago. I have the dealer service records on it. > Would a distributor replacement typically include a new coil and igniter? > > Is it likely that either of those could cause these symptoms? > > What about the main relay? Or is that only the culprit on fuel pump > problems? > > Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Jason ---------------------------- Jason, It sounds like the previous owner missed the signs (or his repairer did), but it's to your advantage! Just replace the Main Relay, and you'll be good for a long, long time. http://techauto.tripod.com/mainrelay.htm There are several other pages that describe your symptoms perfectly... 'Curly' --------------------- |
Re: Help: 91 Civic Si, stalled...
Jason Faas wrote:
> > This morning I was cruising to Grandma's for Thanksgiving dinner. Had been > driving for two hours and the engine cuts out. Will crank, but not start. > I tried intermittently for 30 minutes waiting for a ride, no luck. > > Several hours later, I go back to where we left the car. At first nothing, > but on the third try it fired right up, and had no problems driving 20 miles > into town. > > I'm leaning toward the ignition as the culprit. When it first cut out, the > tach died immediately, before I pushed in the clutch. > > A similar event happened a few weeks ago. It stalled and wouldn't start for > five minutes. That time I thought I had just let out the clutch wrong and > perhaps flooded it, but in retrospect I think it was probably the same > problem as today. > > I should mention that the previous owner had the distributor replaced (at > the dealer) only 4000 miles ago. I have the dealer service records on it. > Would a distributor replacement typically include a new coil and igniter? > > Is it likely that either of those could cause these symptoms? > > What about the main relay? Or is that only the culprit on fuel pump > problems? > > Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Jason ---------------------------- Jason, It sounds like the previous owner missed the signs (or his repairer did), but it's to your advantage! Just replace the Main Relay, and you'll be good for a long, long time. http://techauto.tripod.com/mainrelay.htm There are several other pages that describe your symptoms perfectly... 'Curly' --------------------- |
Re: Help: 91 Civic Si, stalled...
Jason Faas wrote:
> > This morning I was cruising to Grandma's for Thanksgiving dinner. Had been > driving for two hours and the engine cuts out. Will crank, but not start. > I tried intermittently for 30 minutes waiting for a ride, no luck. > > Several hours later, I go back to where we left the car. At first nothing, > but on the third try it fired right up, and had no problems driving 20 miles > into town. > > I'm leaning toward the ignition as the culprit. When it first cut out, the > tach died immediately, before I pushed in the clutch. > > A similar event happened a few weeks ago. It stalled and wouldn't start for > five minutes. That time I thought I had just let out the clutch wrong and > perhaps flooded it, but in retrospect I think it was probably the same > problem as today. > > I should mention that the previous owner had the distributor replaced (at > the dealer) only 4000 miles ago. I have the dealer service records on it. > Would a distributor replacement typically include a new coil and igniter? > > Is it likely that either of those could cause these symptoms? > > What about the main relay? Or is that only the culprit on fuel pump > problems? > > Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Jason ---------------------------- Jason, It sounds like the previous owner missed the signs (or his repairer did), but it's to your advantage! Just replace the Main Relay, and you'll be good for a long, long time. http://techauto.tripod.com/mainrelay.htm There are several other pages that describe your symptoms perfectly... 'Curly' --------------------- |
Re: Help: 91 Civic Si, stalled...
On 11/27/03 23:52, in article 3FC6E28B.974B74DE@interbaun.com, "'Curly Q.
Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote: > Jason Faas wrote: >> >> This morning I was cruising to Grandma's for Thanksgiving dinner. Had been >> driving for two hours and the engine cuts out. Will crank, but not start. >> I tried intermittently for 30 minutes waiting for a ride, no luck. >> >> Several hours later, I go back to where we left the car. At first nothing, >> but on the third try it fired right up, and had no problems driving 20 miles >> into town. >> >> I'm leaning toward the ignition as the culprit. When it first cut out, the >> tach died immediately, before I pushed in the clutch. >> >> A similar event happened a few weeks ago. It stalled and wouldn't start for >> five minutes. That time I thought I had just let out the clutch wrong and >> perhaps flooded it, but in retrospect I think it was probably the same >> problem as today. >> >> I should mention that the previous owner had the distributor replaced (at >> the dealer) only 4000 miles ago. I have the dealer service records on it. >> Would a distributor replacement typically include a new coil and igniter? >> >> Is it likely that either of those could cause these symptoms? >> >> What about the main relay? Or is that only the culprit on fuel pump >> problems? >> >> Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Jason > ---------------------------- > Jason, > > It sounds like the previous owner missed the signs (or his repairer > did), but it's to your advantage! Just replace the Main Relay, and > you'll be good for a long, long time. > > http://techauto.tripod.com/mainrelay.htm > > There are several other pages that describe your symptoms perfectly... > > 'Curly' > > --------------------- Curly, thanks for your help. A question: Is it common for the main relay to cause the engine to suddenly quit? Most of what I've read refers to it mostly causing starting problems. Also, the temperature was about 25 degrees, and even after several hours it didn't start right away. I picked up a main relay for it (either way it won't hurt to have a back-up), but I also grabbed an igniter for if the relay doesn't solve it. Jason p.s. Tony: there was no moisture on the ignition circuit... |
Re: Help: 91 Civic Si, stalled...
On 11/27/03 23:52, in article 3FC6E28B.974B74DE@interbaun.com, "'Curly Q.
Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote: > Jason Faas wrote: >> >> This morning I was cruising to Grandma's for Thanksgiving dinner. Had been >> driving for two hours and the engine cuts out. Will crank, but not start. >> I tried intermittently for 30 minutes waiting for a ride, no luck. >> >> Several hours later, I go back to where we left the car. At first nothing, >> but on the third try it fired right up, and had no problems driving 20 miles >> into town. >> >> I'm leaning toward the ignition as the culprit. When it first cut out, the >> tach died immediately, before I pushed in the clutch. >> >> A similar event happened a few weeks ago. It stalled and wouldn't start for >> five minutes. That time I thought I had just let out the clutch wrong and >> perhaps flooded it, but in retrospect I think it was probably the same >> problem as today. >> >> I should mention that the previous owner had the distributor replaced (at >> the dealer) only 4000 miles ago. I have the dealer service records on it. >> Would a distributor replacement typically include a new coil and igniter? >> >> Is it likely that either of those could cause these symptoms? >> >> What about the main relay? Or is that only the culprit on fuel pump >> problems? >> >> Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Jason > ---------------------------- > Jason, > > It sounds like the previous owner missed the signs (or his repairer > did), but it's to your advantage! Just replace the Main Relay, and > you'll be good for a long, long time. > > http://techauto.tripod.com/mainrelay.htm > > There are several other pages that describe your symptoms perfectly... > > 'Curly' > > --------------------- Curly, thanks for your help. A question: Is it common for the main relay to cause the engine to suddenly quit? Most of what I've read refers to it mostly causing starting problems. Also, the temperature was about 25 degrees, and even after several hours it didn't start right away. I picked up a main relay for it (either way it won't hurt to have a back-up), but I also grabbed an igniter for if the relay doesn't solve it. Jason p.s. Tony: there was no moisture on the ignition circuit... |
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