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WORSS 11-24-2003 05:19 PM

Help - Accord won't start
 
Hi,

My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to come
home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car won't
start.

She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was the
first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the car
started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would not
start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.

Any ideas? I need advise fast!

Thanks,
Bill



N.E.Ohio Bob 11-24-2003 06:53 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
Main relay working? Turn key to first position, and dash lights should
come on and the fuel pump will make a whirring noise for two or three
seconds. No noise, no fuel. Need main relay resoldered. bob

WORSS wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to come
> home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car won't
> start.
>
> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was the
> first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the car
> started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would not
> start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
>
> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
>
> Thanks,
> Bill


N.E.Ohio Bob 11-24-2003 06:53 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
Main relay working? Turn key to first position, and dash lights should
come on and the fuel pump will make a whirring noise for two or three
seconds. No noise, no fuel. Need main relay resoldered. bob

WORSS wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to come
> home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car won't
> start.
>
> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was the
> first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the car
> started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would not
> start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
>
> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
>
> Thanks,
> Bill


N.E.Ohio Bob 11-24-2003 06:53 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
Main relay working? Turn key to first position, and dash lights should
come on and the fuel pump will make a whirring noise for two or three
seconds. No noise, no fuel. Need main relay resoldered. bob

WORSS wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to come
> home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car won't
> start.
>
> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was the
> first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the car
> started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would not
> start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
>
> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
>
> Thanks,
> Bill


N.E.Ohio Bob 11-24-2003 06:53 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
Main relay working? Turn key to first position, and dash lights should
come on and the fuel pump will make a whirring noise for two or three
seconds. No noise, no fuel. Need main relay resoldered. bob

WORSS wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to come
> home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car won't
> start.
>
> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was the
> first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the car
> started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would not
> start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
>
> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
>
> Thanks,
> Bill


Jim Yanik 11-24-2003 09:22 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in
news:3FC29CD8.9E11CF9C@neo.rr.com:

> Main relay working? Turn key to first position, and dash lights
> should
> come on and the fuel pump will make a whirring noise for two or three
> seconds. No noise, no fuel. Need main relay resoldered. bob
>
> WORSS wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to
>> come home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the
>> car won't start.
>>
>> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was
>> the first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that
>> the car started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the
>> car would not start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
>>
>> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill

>


http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm

How to resolder the main relay,has nice pix,too.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Jim Yanik 11-24-2003 09:22 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in
news:3FC29CD8.9E11CF9C@neo.rr.com:

> Main relay working? Turn key to first position, and dash lights
> should
> come on and the fuel pump will make a whirring noise for two or three
> seconds. No noise, no fuel. Need main relay resoldered. bob
>
> WORSS wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to
>> come home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the
>> car won't start.
>>
>> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was
>> the first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that
>> the car started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the
>> car would not start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
>>
>> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill

>


http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm

How to resolder the main relay,has nice pix,too.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Jim Yanik 11-24-2003 09:22 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in
news:3FC29CD8.9E11CF9C@neo.rr.com:

> Main relay working? Turn key to first position, and dash lights
> should
> come on and the fuel pump will make a whirring noise for two or three
> seconds. No noise, no fuel. Need main relay resoldered. bob
>
> WORSS wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to
>> come home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the
>> car won't start.
>>
>> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was
>> the first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that
>> the car started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the
>> car would not start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
>>
>> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill

>


http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm

How to resolder the main relay,has nice pix,too.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Jim Yanik 11-24-2003 09:22 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in
news:3FC29CD8.9E11CF9C@neo.rr.com:

> Main relay working? Turn key to first position, and dash lights
> should
> come on and the fuel pump will make a whirring noise for two or three
> seconds. No noise, no fuel. Need main relay resoldered. bob
>
> WORSS wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to
>> come home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the
>> car won't start.
>>
>> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was
>> the first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that
>> the car started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the
>> car would not start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
>>
>> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill

>


http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm

How to resolder the main relay,has nice pix,too.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Ricky Spartacus 11-25-2003 08:01 AM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
Could also be the coils, igniter or anything distributor. Check for
spark for certainty. Like most female college student, they like to
carry large, heavy key chains. This wears the ignition switch
prematurely from each turns and bumps on the road.
Ric

> > Main relay working? Turn key to first position, and dash lights
> > should
> > come on and the fuel pump will make a whirring noise for two or three
> > seconds. No noise, no fuel. Need main relay resoldered. bob
> >
> > WORSS wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to
> >> come home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the
> >> car won't start.
> >>
> >> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was
> >> the first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that
> >> the car started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the
> >> car would not start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
> >>
> >> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bill

> >

>
> http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm
>
> How to resolder the main relay,has nice pix,too.


Ricky Spartacus 11-25-2003 08:01 AM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
Could also be the coils, igniter or anything distributor. Check for
spark for certainty. Like most female college student, they like to
carry large, heavy key chains. This wears the ignition switch
prematurely from each turns and bumps on the road.
Ric

> > Main relay working? Turn key to first position, and dash lights
> > should
> > come on and the fuel pump will make a whirring noise for two or three
> > seconds. No noise, no fuel. Need main relay resoldered. bob
> >
> > WORSS wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to
> >> come home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the
> >> car won't start.
> >>
> >> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was
> >> the first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that
> >> the car started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the
> >> car would not start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
> >>
> >> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bill

> >

>
> http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm
>
> How to resolder the main relay,has nice pix,too.


Ricky Spartacus 11-25-2003 08:01 AM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
Could also be the coils, igniter or anything distributor. Check for
spark for certainty. Like most female college student, they like to
carry large, heavy key chains. This wears the ignition switch
prematurely from each turns and bumps on the road.
Ric

> > Main relay working? Turn key to first position, and dash lights
> > should
> > come on and the fuel pump will make a whirring noise for two or three
> > seconds. No noise, no fuel. Need main relay resoldered. bob
> >
> > WORSS wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to
> >> come home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the
> >> car won't start.
> >>
> >> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was
> >> the first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that
> >> the car started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the
> >> car would not start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
> >>
> >> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bill

> >

>
> http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm
>
> How to resolder the main relay,has nice pix,too.


Bill B. Johnson 11-25-2003 12:57 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
In article <euvwb.144430$ZC4.16727@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, "WORSS"
<wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to come
> home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car won't
> start.
>
> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was the
> first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the car
> started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would not
> start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
>
> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
>
> Thanks,
> Bill


Bill,
Tell her to see if the car will start after it is jump started. There are
probably people at the college that have jumper cables. Tell her to drive
straight home without stopping. If she needs to get gas--tell her to keep
the motor running. If it does not start with a jump, tell her to have the
vehicle towed to the closest Honda dealership and let them fix it. I doubt
if she has the mechanical experience or tools needed to fix whatever might
be the cause of the problem.

Bill B. Johnson 11-25-2003 12:57 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
In article <euvwb.144430$ZC4.16727@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, "WORSS"
<wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to come
> home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car won't
> start.
>
> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was the
> first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the car
> started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would not
> start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
>
> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
>
> Thanks,
> Bill


Bill,
Tell her to see if the car will start after it is jump started. There are
probably people at the college that have jumper cables. Tell her to drive
straight home without stopping. If she needs to get gas--tell her to keep
the motor running. If it does not start with a jump, tell her to have the
vehicle towed to the closest Honda dealership and let them fix it. I doubt
if she has the mechanical experience or tools needed to fix whatever might
be the cause of the problem.

Bill B. Johnson 11-25-2003 12:57 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
In article <euvwb.144430$ZC4.16727@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, "WORSS"
<wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to come
> home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car won't
> start.
>
> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was the
> first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the car
> started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would not
> start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
>
> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
>
> Thanks,
> Bill


Bill,
Tell her to see if the car will start after it is jump started. There are
probably people at the college that have jumper cables. Tell her to drive
straight home without stopping. If she needs to get gas--tell her to keep
the motor running. If it does not start with a jump, tell her to have the
vehicle towed to the closest Honda dealership and let them fix it. I doubt
if she has the mechanical experience or tools needed to fix whatever might
be the cause of the problem.

Scott MacLean 11-25-2003 01:30 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
> Bill,
> Tell her to see if the car will start after it is jump started. There are
> probably people at the college that have jumper cables. Tell her to drive
> straight home without stopping. If she needs to get gas--tell her to keep
> the motor running. If it does not start with a jump, tell her to have the
> vehicle towed to the closest Honda dealership and let them fix it. I doubt
> if she has the mechanical experience or tools needed to fix whatever might
> be the cause of the problem.


Oh? Do you know his daughter?



Scott MacLean 11-25-2003 01:30 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
> Bill,
> Tell her to see if the car will start after it is jump started. There are
> probably people at the college that have jumper cables. Tell her to drive
> straight home without stopping. If she needs to get gas--tell her to keep
> the motor running. If it does not start with a jump, tell her to have the
> vehicle towed to the closest Honda dealership and let them fix it. I doubt
> if she has the mechanical experience or tools needed to fix whatever might
> be the cause of the problem.


Oh? Do you know his daughter?



Scott MacLean 11-25-2003 01:30 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
> Bill,
> Tell her to see if the car will start after it is jump started. There are
> probably people at the college that have jumper cables. Tell her to drive
> straight home without stopping. If she needs to get gas--tell her to keep
> the motor running. If it does not start with a jump, tell her to have the
> vehicle towed to the closest Honda dealership and let them fix it. I doubt
> if she has the mechanical experience or tools needed to fix whatever might
> be the cause of the problem.


Oh? Do you know his daughter?



WORSS 11-25-2003 04:59 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start-UPDATE
 
Thank you very much for all the advise! My daughter is on her way home for
Thansgiving!

She had the car towed to a gas station/garage last night. I had her stop at
the garage this morning to see if the car would start (it would not) and
had her drive to the nearest Honda dealership to pick up the main relay (the
garage did not have time to get it). Upon returning to the garage with the
relay, they told her the car was fixed! According to my daughter, they said
the spark plugs were fouled. This seems odd to me as I recall replacing
them about one year ago...come to think of it, because the car was having
the same type of issue!

So....is it really possible for the plugs to be fouled after only a year?
The plugs were NGK....so a good brand, right?

Thanks,
Bill




"WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:euvwb.144430$ZC4.16727@twister.nyroc.rr.com.. .
> Hi,
>
> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to come
> home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car won't
> start.
>
> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was the
> first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the car
> started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would not
> start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
>
> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
>




WORSS 11-25-2003 04:59 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start-UPDATE
 
Thank you very much for all the advise! My daughter is on her way home for
Thansgiving!

She had the car towed to a gas station/garage last night. I had her stop at
the garage this morning to see if the car would start (it would not) and
had her drive to the nearest Honda dealership to pick up the main relay (the
garage did not have time to get it). Upon returning to the garage with the
relay, they told her the car was fixed! According to my daughter, they said
the spark plugs were fouled. This seems odd to me as I recall replacing
them about one year ago...come to think of it, because the car was having
the same type of issue!

So....is it really possible for the plugs to be fouled after only a year?
The plugs were NGK....so a good brand, right?

Thanks,
Bill




"WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:euvwb.144430$ZC4.16727@twister.nyroc.rr.com.. .
> Hi,
>
> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to come
> home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car won't
> start.
>
> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was the
> first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the car
> started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would not
> start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
>
> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
>




WORSS 11-25-2003 04:59 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start-UPDATE
 
Thank you very much for all the advise! My daughter is on her way home for
Thansgiving!

She had the car towed to a gas station/garage last night. I had her stop at
the garage this morning to see if the car would start (it would not) and
had her drive to the nearest Honda dealership to pick up the main relay (the
garage did not have time to get it). Upon returning to the garage with the
relay, they told her the car was fixed! According to my daughter, they said
the spark plugs were fouled. This seems odd to me as I recall replacing
them about one year ago...come to think of it, because the car was having
the same type of issue!

So....is it really possible for the plugs to be fouled after only a year?
The plugs were NGK....so a good brand, right?

Thanks,
Bill




"WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:euvwb.144430$ZC4.16727@twister.nyroc.rr.com.. .
> Hi,
>
> My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to come
> home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car won't
> start.
>
> She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was the
> first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the car
> started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would not
> start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
>
> Any ideas? I need advise fast!
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
>




N.E.Ohio Bob 11-25-2003 06:53 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start-UPDATE
 

How many miles are on the car? Is it time for a cap, rotor and wires?
The plugs weren't getting spark. That's why they 'fouled'. probably
going to have the problen again. Look for a Honda tech that knows how to
REPAIR the relay, not replace it. bob

WORSS wrote:
>
> Thank you very much for all the advise! My daughter is on her way home for
> Thansgiving!
>
> She had the car towed to a gas station/garage last night. I had her stop at
> the garage this morning to see if the car would start (it would not) and
> had her drive to the nearest Honda dealership to pick up the main relay (the
> garage did not have time to get it). Upon returning to the garage with the
> relay, they told her the car was fixed! According to my daughter, they said
> the spark plugs were fouled. This seems odd to me as I recall replacing
> them about one year ago...come to think of it, because the car was having
> the same type of issue!
>
> So....is it really possible for the plugs to be fouled after only a year?
> The plugs were NGK....so a good brand, right?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:euvwb.144430$ZC4.16727@twister.nyroc.rr.com.. .
> > Hi,
> >
> > My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to come
> > home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car won't
> > start.
> >
> > She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was the
> > first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the car
> > started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would not
> > start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
> >
> > Any ideas? I need advise fast!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bill
> >
> >


N.E.Ohio Bob 11-25-2003 06:53 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start-UPDATE
 

How many miles are on the car? Is it time for a cap, rotor and wires?
The plugs weren't getting spark. That's why they 'fouled'. probably
going to have the problen again. Look for a Honda tech that knows how to
REPAIR the relay, not replace it. bob

WORSS wrote:
>
> Thank you very much for all the advise! My daughter is on her way home for
> Thansgiving!
>
> She had the car towed to a gas station/garage last night. I had her stop at
> the garage this morning to see if the car would start (it would not) and
> had her drive to the nearest Honda dealership to pick up the main relay (the
> garage did not have time to get it). Upon returning to the garage with the
> relay, they told her the car was fixed! According to my daughter, they said
> the spark plugs were fouled. This seems odd to me as I recall replacing
> them about one year ago...come to think of it, because the car was having
> the same type of issue!
>
> So....is it really possible for the plugs to be fouled after only a year?
> The plugs were NGK....so a good brand, right?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:euvwb.144430$ZC4.16727@twister.nyroc.rr.com.. .
> > Hi,
> >
> > My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to come
> > home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car won't
> > start.
> >
> > She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was the
> > first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the car
> > started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would not
> > start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
> >
> > Any ideas? I need advise fast!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bill
> >
> >


N.E.Ohio Bob 11-25-2003 06:53 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start-UPDATE
 

How many miles are on the car? Is it time for a cap, rotor and wires?
The plugs weren't getting spark. That's why they 'fouled'. probably
going to have the problen again. Look for a Honda tech that knows how to
REPAIR the relay, not replace it. bob

WORSS wrote:
>
> Thank you very much for all the advise! My daughter is on her way home for
> Thansgiving!
>
> She had the car towed to a gas station/garage last night. I had her stop at
> the garage this morning to see if the car would start (it would not) and
> had her drive to the nearest Honda dealership to pick up the main relay (the
> garage did not have time to get it). Upon returning to the garage with the
> relay, they told her the car was fixed! According to my daughter, they said
> the spark plugs were fouled. This seems odd to me as I recall replacing
> them about one year ago...come to think of it, because the car was having
> the same type of issue!
>
> So....is it really possible for the plugs to be fouled after only a year?
> The plugs were NGK....so a good brand, right?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:euvwb.144430$ZC4.16727@twister.nyroc.rr.com.. .
> > Hi,
> >
> > My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to come
> > home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car won't
> > start.
> >
> > She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was the
> > first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the car
> > started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would not
> > start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
> >
> > Any ideas? I need advise fast!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bill
> >
> >


WORSS 11-25-2003 07:52 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start-UPDATE
 
The car has 142,000 miles on it. I replaced the wires when I replaced the
plugs but the technician told me I should not have. Said the Honda ones
don't fail and are the best. I had him look at the distributor, etc. at
the same time and all was well. I'll actually be seeing him tomorrow. As
for the relay, I think I'll just have it put in since I now have it.

Thanks,
Bill


"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3FC3EDE3.E22801FD@neo.rr.com...
>
> How many miles are on the car? Is it time for a cap, rotor and wires?
> The plugs weren't getting spark. That's why they 'fouled'. probably
> going to have the problen again. Look for a Honda tech that knows how to
> REPAIR the relay, not replace it. bob
>
> WORSS wrote:
> >
> > Thank you very much for all the advise! My daughter is on her way home

for
> > Thansgiving!
> >
> > She had the car towed to a gas station/garage last night. I had her

stop at
> > the garage this morning to see if the car would start (it would not)

and
> > had her drive to the nearest Honda dealership to pick up the main relay

(the
> > garage did not have time to get it). Upon returning to the garage with

the
> > relay, they told her the car was fixed! According to my daughter, they

said
> > the spark plugs were fouled. This seems odd to me as I recall replacing
> > them about one year ago...come to think of it, because the car was

having
> > the same type of issue!
> >
> > So....is it really possible for the plugs to be fouled after only a

year?
> > The plugs were NGK....so a good brand, right?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bill
> >
> > "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:euvwb.144430$ZC4.16727@twister.nyroc.rr.com.. .
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to

come
> > > home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car

won't
> > > start.
> > >
> > > She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was

the
> > > first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the

car
> > > started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would

not
> > > start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
> > >
> > > Any ideas? I need advise fast!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >




WORSS 11-25-2003 07:52 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start-UPDATE
 
The car has 142,000 miles on it. I replaced the wires when I replaced the
plugs but the technician told me I should not have. Said the Honda ones
don't fail and are the best. I had him look at the distributor, etc. at
the same time and all was well. I'll actually be seeing him tomorrow. As
for the relay, I think I'll just have it put in since I now have it.

Thanks,
Bill


"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3FC3EDE3.E22801FD@neo.rr.com...
>
> How many miles are on the car? Is it time for a cap, rotor and wires?
> The plugs weren't getting spark. That's why they 'fouled'. probably
> going to have the problen again. Look for a Honda tech that knows how to
> REPAIR the relay, not replace it. bob
>
> WORSS wrote:
> >
> > Thank you very much for all the advise! My daughter is on her way home

for
> > Thansgiving!
> >
> > She had the car towed to a gas station/garage last night. I had her

stop at
> > the garage this morning to see if the car would start (it would not)

and
> > had her drive to the nearest Honda dealership to pick up the main relay

(the
> > garage did not have time to get it). Upon returning to the garage with

the
> > relay, they told her the car was fixed! According to my daughter, they

said
> > the spark plugs were fouled. This seems odd to me as I recall replacing
> > them about one year ago...come to think of it, because the car was

having
> > the same type of issue!
> >
> > So....is it really possible for the plugs to be fouled after only a

year?
> > The plugs were NGK....so a good brand, right?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bill
> >
> > "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:euvwb.144430$ZC4.16727@twister.nyroc.rr.com.. .
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to

come
> > > home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car

won't
> > > start.
> > >
> > > She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was

the
> > > first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the

car
> > > started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would

not
> > > start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
> > >
> > > Any ideas? I need advise fast!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >




WORSS 11-25-2003 07:52 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start-UPDATE
 
The car has 142,000 miles on it. I replaced the wires when I replaced the
plugs but the technician told me I should not have. Said the Honda ones
don't fail and are the best. I had him look at the distributor, etc. at
the same time and all was well. I'll actually be seeing him tomorrow. As
for the relay, I think I'll just have it put in since I now have it.

Thanks,
Bill


"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3FC3EDE3.E22801FD@neo.rr.com...
>
> How many miles are on the car? Is it time for a cap, rotor and wires?
> The plugs weren't getting spark. That's why they 'fouled'. probably
> going to have the problen again. Look for a Honda tech that knows how to
> REPAIR the relay, not replace it. bob
>
> WORSS wrote:
> >
> > Thank you very much for all the advise! My daughter is on her way home

for
> > Thansgiving!
> >
> > She had the car towed to a gas station/garage last night. I had her

stop at
> > the garage this morning to see if the car would start (it would not)

and
> > had her drive to the nearest Honda dealership to pick up the main relay

(the
> > garage did not have time to get it). Upon returning to the garage with

the
> > relay, they told her the car was fixed! According to my daughter, they

said
> > the spark plugs were fouled. This seems odd to me as I recall replacing
> > them about one year ago...come to think of it, because the car was

having
> > the same type of issue!
> >
> > So....is it really possible for the plugs to be fouled after only a

year?
> > The plugs were NGK....so a good brand, right?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bill
> >
> > "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:euvwb.144430$ZC4.16727@twister.nyroc.rr.com.. .
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > My daughter has our 1993 Honda Accord at college. She is suppose to

come
> > > home tomorrow for Thanksgiving but just called to tell us the car

won't
> > > start.
> > >
> > > She drove a few hours the other day without any problems. Today was

the
> > > first time she tried to start the car since then. She says that the

car
> > > started on the first attempt and then died. After that, the car would

not
> > > start at all, but it apparently turns over okay.
> > >
> > > Any ideas? I need advise fast!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >




Bill B. Johnson 11-27-2003 06:01 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start-UPDATE
 
In article <TOSwb.99718$1N3.26021@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, "WORSS"
<wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> The car has 142,000 miles on it. I replaced the wires when I replaced the
> plugs but the technician told me I should not have. Said the Honda ones
> don't fail and are the best. I had him look at the distributor, etc. at
> the same time and all was well. I'll actually be seeing him tomorrow. As
> for the relay, I think I'll just have it put in since I now have it.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill


Bill,
I'm glad your daughter got home for Thanksgiving. There are several
possible causes for bad plugs. I agree with the intelligent poster that
told you that the Honda needs to be checked by a Honda mechanic. You would
be amazed at what mechanics can find once they hook it up to one of those
expensive computerized testing instruments.

Bill B. Johnson 11-27-2003 06:01 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start-UPDATE
 
In article <TOSwb.99718$1N3.26021@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, "WORSS"
<wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> The car has 142,000 miles on it. I replaced the wires when I replaced the
> plugs but the technician told me I should not have. Said the Honda ones
> don't fail and are the best. I had him look at the distributor, etc. at
> the same time and all was well. I'll actually be seeing him tomorrow. As
> for the relay, I think I'll just have it put in since I now have it.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill


Bill,
I'm glad your daughter got home for Thanksgiving. There are several
possible causes for bad plugs. I agree with the intelligent poster that
told you that the Honda needs to be checked by a Honda mechanic. You would
be amazed at what mechanics can find once they hook it up to one of those
expensive computerized testing instruments.

Bill B. Johnson 11-27-2003 06:01 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start-UPDATE
 
In article <TOSwb.99718$1N3.26021@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, "WORSS"
<wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> The car has 142,000 miles on it. I replaced the wires when I replaced the
> plugs but the technician told me I should not have. Said the Honda ones
> don't fail and are the best. I had him look at the distributor, etc. at
> the same time and all was well. I'll actually be seeing him tomorrow. As
> for the relay, I think I'll just have it put in since I now have it.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill


Bill,
I'm glad your daughter got home for Thanksgiving. There are several
possible causes for bad plugs. I agree with the intelligent poster that
told you that the Honda needs to be checked by a Honda mechanic. You would
be amazed at what mechanics can find once they hook it up to one of those
expensive computerized testing instruments.

Dave Kelsen 11-28-2003 09:24 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
On 11/25/2003 12:30 PM Scott MacLean spake these words of knowledge:


>> Bill,
>> Tell her to see if the car will start after it is jump started. There are
>> probably people at the college that have jumper cables. Tell her to drive
>> straight home without stopping. If she needs to get gas--tell her to keep
>> the motor running. If it does not start with a jump, tell her to have the
>> vehicle towed to the closest Honda dealership and let them fix it. I doubt
>> if she has the mechanical experience or tools needed to fix whatever might
>> be the cause of the problem.

>
> Oh? Do you know his daughter?


?

He didn't say she didn't have the experience or tools, as he might have
if he knew Bill's daughter. He said he *doubted* it. FWIW, I doubt it
as well. On the other hand, I can categorically state that *I* do not
have said experience or tools, for at least 95% of the potential
problems. But I did pay the $70 for the Helms manual for my car - so I
can do that other 5%...

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Going to church doesn't make you devout, any more than standing in a
garage makes you a car.


Dave Kelsen 11-28-2003 09:24 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
On 11/25/2003 12:30 PM Scott MacLean spake these words of knowledge:


>> Bill,
>> Tell her to see if the car will start after it is jump started. There are
>> probably people at the college that have jumper cables. Tell her to drive
>> straight home without stopping. If she needs to get gas--tell her to keep
>> the motor running. If it does not start with a jump, tell her to have the
>> vehicle towed to the closest Honda dealership and let them fix it. I doubt
>> if she has the mechanical experience or tools needed to fix whatever might
>> be the cause of the problem.

>
> Oh? Do you know his daughter?


?

He didn't say she didn't have the experience or tools, as he might have
if he knew Bill's daughter. He said he *doubted* it. FWIW, I doubt it
as well. On the other hand, I can categorically state that *I* do not
have said experience or tools, for at least 95% of the potential
problems. But I did pay the $70 for the Helms manual for my car - so I
can do that other 5%...

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Going to church doesn't make you devout, any more than standing in a
garage makes you a car.


Dave Kelsen 11-28-2003 09:24 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
On 11/25/2003 12:30 PM Scott MacLean spake these words of knowledge:


>> Bill,
>> Tell her to see if the car will start after it is jump started. There are
>> probably people at the college that have jumper cables. Tell her to drive
>> straight home without stopping. If she needs to get gas--tell her to keep
>> the motor running. If it does not start with a jump, tell her to have the
>> vehicle towed to the closest Honda dealership and let them fix it. I doubt
>> if she has the mechanical experience or tools needed to fix whatever might
>> be the cause of the problem.

>
> Oh? Do you know his daughter?


?

He didn't say she didn't have the experience or tools, as he might have
if he knew Bill's daughter. He said he *doubted* it. FWIW, I doubt it
as well. On the other hand, I can categorically state that *I* do not
have said experience or tools, for at least 95% of the potential
problems. But I did pay the $70 for the Helms manual for my car - so I
can do that other 5%...

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Going to church doesn't make you devout, any more than standing in a
garage makes you a car.


Dave Kelsen 11-28-2003 09:24 PM

Re: Help - Accord won't start
 
On 11/25/2003 12:30 PM Scott MacLean spake these words of knowledge:


>> Bill,
>> Tell her to see if the car will start after it is jump started. There are
>> probably people at the college that have jumper cables. Tell her to drive
>> straight home without stopping. If she needs to get gas--tell her to keep
>> the motor running. If it does not start with a jump, tell her to have the
>> vehicle towed to the closest Honda dealership and let them fix it. I doubt
>> if she has the mechanical experience or tools needed to fix whatever might
>> be the cause of the problem.

>
> Oh? Do you know his daughter?


?

He didn't say she didn't have the experience or tools, as he might have
if he knew Bill's daughter. He said he *doubted* it. FWIW, I doubt it
as well. On the other hand, I can categorically state that *I* do not
have said experience or tools, for at least 95% of the potential
problems. But I did pay the $70 for the Helms manual for my car - so I
can do that other 5%...

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Going to church doesn't make you devout, any more than standing in a
garage makes you a car.



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