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TMW 11-30-2006 07:25 PM

Hi everybody...help please.
 
Hi, I have a ’97 Honda Accord with about 75,000 miles. It has a
problem with its giddy-up. It has to work awfully hard to get to even
35 mph. It seems that after driving it for a while and letting it warm
up, its a "little better". Anyone know what the problem would be?
And more importantly, how much I can expect to pay to get it fixed?

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Speedy Pete 11-30-2006 10:17 PM

Re: Hi everybody...help please.
 
Start with a leakdown test. Its the BEST way to find out the condition
of your motor AND if it does have internal problems they can be found
with a little listening.

AFter that you can start changing parts.

-Speedy

TMW wrote:
> Hi, I have a ’97 Honda Accord with about 75,000 miles. It has a
> problem with its giddy-up. It has to work awfully hard to get to even
> 35 mph. It seems that after driving it for a while and letting it warm
> up, its a "little better". Anyone know what the problem would be?
> And more importantly, how much I can expect to pay to get it fixed?
>


Speedy Pete 11-30-2006 10:17 PM

Re: Hi everybody...help please.
 
Start with a leakdown test. Its the BEST way to find out the condition
of your motor AND if it does have internal problems they can be found
with a little listening.

AFter that you can start changing parts.

-Speedy

TMW wrote:
> Hi, I have a ’97 Honda Accord with about 75,000 miles. It has a
> problem with its giddy-up. It has to work awfully hard to get to even
> 35 mph. It seems that after driving it for a while and letting it warm
> up, its a "little better". Anyone know what the problem would be?
> And more importantly, how much I can expect to pay to get it fixed?
>


Speedy Pete 11-30-2006 10:17 PM

Re: Hi everybody...help please.
 
Start with a leakdown test. Its the BEST way to find out the condition
of your motor AND if it does have internal problems they can be found
with a little listening.

AFter that you can start changing parts.

-Speedy

TMW wrote:
> Hi, I have a ’97 Honda Accord with about 75,000 miles. It has a
> problem with its giddy-up. It has to work awfully hard to get to even
> 35 mph. It seems that after driving it for a while and letting it warm
> up, its a "little better". Anyone know what the problem would be?
> And more importantly, how much I can expect to pay to get it fixed?
>


Elle 11-30-2006 11:18 PM

Re: Hi everybody...help please.
 
When was the last tuneup (new plugs, ignition wires,
distributor cap and rotor, timing check, fuel filter, air
filter, bottle of Chevron Techron in the fuel tank)? Were
OEM ignition parts used?

Cooling system topped off?

"TMW" <none@000.com> wrote
> Hi, I have a '97 Honda Accord with about 75,000 miles. It
> has a
> problem with its giddy-up. It has to work awfully hard to
> get to even
> 35 mph. It seems that after driving it for a while and
> letting it warm
> up, its a "little better". Anyone know what the problem
> would be?
> And more importantly, how much I can expect to pay to get
> it fixed?




Elle 11-30-2006 11:18 PM

Re: Hi everybody...help please.
 
When was the last tuneup (new plugs, ignition wires,
distributor cap and rotor, timing check, fuel filter, air
filter, bottle of Chevron Techron in the fuel tank)? Were
OEM ignition parts used?

Cooling system topped off?

"TMW" <none@000.com> wrote
> Hi, I have a '97 Honda Accord with about 75,000 miles. It
> has a
> problem with its giddy-up. It has to work awfully hard to
> get to even
> 35 mph. It seems that after driving it for a while and
> letting it warm
> up, its a "little better". Anyone know what the problem
> would be?
> And more importantly, how much I can expect to pay to get
> it fixed?




Elle 11-30-2006 11:18 PM

Re: Hi everybody...help please.
 
When was the last tuneup (new plugs, ignition wires,
distributor cap and rotor, timing check, fuel filter, air
filter, bottle of Chevron Techron in the fuel tank)? Were
OEM ignition parts used?

Cooling system topped off?

"TMW" <none@000.com> wrote
> Hi, I have a '97 Honda Accord with about 75,000 miles. It
> has a
> problem with its giddy-up. It has to work awfully hard to
> get to even
> 35 mph. It seems that after driving it for a while and
> letting it warm
> up, its a "little better". Anyone know what the problem
> would be?
> And more importantly, how much I can expect to pay to get
> it fixed?




jim beam 11-30-2006 11:21 PM

Re: Hi everybody...help please.
 
Speedy Pete wrote:
> Start with a leakdown test. Its the BEST way to find out the condition
> of your motor AND if it does have internal problems they can be found
> with a little listening.


/start/ leak-down on a vehicle with only 75k? /much/ more likely to be
maintenance issue - or timing belt slippage.

>
> AFter that you can start changing parts.


don't change a thing until you know /what/ the problem is! go to
tegger.com and read the faq's to start, then buy the honda manual from
helm.com. full diagnostics are in there, including reading error codes
from the ecu.

>
> -Speedy
>
> TMW wrote:
>> Hi, I have a �97 Honda Accord with about 75,000 miles. It has a
>> problem with its giddy-up. It has to work awfully hard to get to even
>> 35 mph. It seems that after driving it for a while and letting it warm
>> up, its a "little better". Anyone know what the problem would be?
>> And more importantly, how much I can expect to pay to get it fixed?
>>


jim beam 11-30-2006 11:21 PM

Re: Hi everybody...help please.
 
Speedy Pete wrote:
> Start with a leakdown test. Its the BEST way to find out the condition
> of your motor AND if it does have internal problems they can be found
> with a little listening.


/start/ leak-down on a vehicle with only 75k? /much/ more likely to be
maintenance issue - or timing belt slippage.

>
> AFter that you can start changing parts.


don't change a thing until you know /what/ the problem is! go to
tegger.com and read the faq's to start, then buy the honda manual from
helm.com. full diagnostics are in there, including reading error codes
from the ecu.

>
> -Speedy
>
> TMW wrote:
>> Hi, I have a �97 Honda Accord with about 75,000 miles. It has a
>> problem with its giddy-up. It has to work awfully hard to get to even
>> 35 mph. It seems that after driving it for a while and letting it warm
>> up, its a "little better". Anyone know what the problem would be?
>> And more importantly, how much I can expect to pay to get it fixed?
>>


jim beam 11-30-2006 11:21 PM

Re: Hi everybody...help please.
 
Speedy Pete wrote:
> Start with a leakdown test. Its the BEST way to find out the condition
> of your motor AND if it does have internal problems they can be found
> with a little listening.


/start/ leak-down on a vehicle with only 75k? /much/ more likely to be
maintenance issue - or timing belt slippage.

>
> AFter that you can start changing parts.


don't change a thing until you know /what/ the problem is! go to
tegger.com and read the faq's to start, then buy the honda manual from
helm.com. full diagnostics are in there, including reading error codes
from the ecu.

>
> -Speedy
>
> TMW wrote:
>> Hi, I have a �97 Honda Accord with about 75,000 miles. It has a
>> problem with its giddy-up. It has to work awfully hard to get to even
>> 35 mph. It seems that after driving it for a while and letting it warm
>> up, its a "little better". Anyone know what the problem would be?
>> And more importantly, how much I can expect to pay to get it fixed?
>>


Woody 12-01-2006 02:50 PM

Re: Hi everybody...help please.
 
Might start by making sure it is firing on all 4 cylinders. My daughters
lost half the coilpack and ran smooth on two cylinders. Only problem was it
would only do about 40mph. It also killed the converter.


"Speedy Pete" <speedythetrash.pete@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:19Nbh.13599$7a2.8660@trndny06...
> Start with a leakdown test. Its the BEST way to find out the condition of
> your motor AND if it does have internal problems they can be found with a
> little listening.
>
> AFter that you can start changing parts.
>
> -Speedy
>
> TMW wrote:
>> Hi, I have a ’97 Honda Accord with about 75,000 miles. It has a
>> problem with its giddy-up. It has to work awfully hard to get to even
>> 35 mph. It seems that after driving it for a while and letting it warm
>> up, its a "little better". Anyone know what the problem would be?
>> And more importantly, how much I can expect to pay to get it fixed?
>>




Woody 12-01-2006 02:50 PM

Re: Hi everybody...help please.
 
Might start by making sure it is firing on all 4 cylinders. My daughters
lost half the coilpack and ran smooth on two cylinders. Only problem was it
would only do about 40mph. It also killed the converter.


"Speedy Pete" <speedythetrash.pete@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:19Nbh.13599$7a2.8660@trndny06...
> Start with a leakdown test. Its the BEST way to find out the condition of
> your motor AND if it does have internal problems they can be found with a
> little listening.
>
> AFter that you can start changing parts.
>
> -Speedy
>
> TMW wrote:
>> Hi, I have a ’97 Honda Accord with about 75,000 miles. It has a
>> problem with its giddy-up. It has to work awfully hard to get to even
>> 35 mph. It seems that after driving it for a while and letting it warm
>> up, its a "little better". Anyone know what the problem would be?
>> And more importantly, how much I can expect to pay to get it fixed?
>>




Woody 12-01-2006 02:50 PM

Re: Hi everybody...help please.
 
Might start by making sure it is firing on all 4 cylinders. My daughters
lost half the coilpack and ran smooth on two cylinders. Only problem was it
would only do about 40mph. It also killed the converter.


"Speedy Pete" <speedythetrash.pete@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:19Nbh.13599$7a2.8660@trndny06...
> Start with a leakdown test. Its the BEST way to find out the condition of
> your motor AND if it does have internal problems they can be found with a
> little listening.
>
> AFter that you can start changing parts.
>
> -Speedy
>
> TMW wrote:
>> Hi, I have a ’97 Honda Accord with about 75,000 miles. It has a
>> problem with its giddy-up. It has to work awfully hard to get to even
>> 35 mph. It seems that after driving it for a while and letting it warm
>> up, its a "little better". Anyone know what the problem would be?
>> And more importantly, how much I can expect to pay to get it fixed?
>>




Michael Pardee 12-02-2006 09:14 AM

Re: Hi everybody...help please.
 
"TMW" <none@000.com> wrote in message
news:944594_abe61ed88617205bde467e162712650d@autob oardz.com...
> Hi, I have a '97 Honda Accord with about 75,000 miles. It has a
> problem with its giddy-up. It has to work awfully hard to get to even
> 35 mph. It seems that after driving it for a while and letting it warm
> up, its a "little better". Anyone know what the problem would be?
> And more importantly, how much I can expect to pay to get it fixed?
>
> --


Besides the other good answers, it is possible your catalytic converter is
plugged. A test for that (from a Haynes manual, believe it or don't) is done
with a manifold pressure guage. Watch the guage at idle and note the
reading. Rev the engine to about 2000 rpm for a few seconds, then watch the
guage when you release the throttle. It should drop to the idle reading (or
close to it) within two seconds. If it hangs at the high reading or only
gradually returns to the idle reading suspect an exhaust restriction.

Mike



Michael Pardee 12-02-2006 09:14 AM

Re: Hi everybody...help please.
 
"TMW" <none@000.com> wrote in message
news:944594_abe61ed88617205bde467e162712650d@autob oardz.com...
> Hi, I have a '97 Honda Accord with about 75,000 miles. It has a
> problem with its giddy-up. It has to work awfully hard to get to even
> 35 mph. It seems that after driving it for a while and letting it warm
> up, its a "little better". Anyone know what the problem would be?
> And more importantly, how much I can expect to pay to get it fixed?
>
> --


Besides the other good answers, it is possible your catalytic converter is
plugged. A test for that (from a Haynes manual, believe it or don't) is done
with a manifold pressure guage. Watch the guage at idle and note the
reading. Rev the engine to about 2000 rpm for a few seconds, then watch the
guage when you release the throttle. It should drop to the idle reading (or
close to it) within two seconds. If it hangs at the high reading or only
gradually returns to the idle reading suspect an exhaust restriction.

Mike




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