Re: Honda Accord 94 - ignition problem
michalis0@gmail.com wrote:
> Also, today when I tried to start the car, I noticed that > sometimes the dashboard indicators didn't light on > when the key was in the "on" position (first time is happened > I think). > ignition switch. go to tegger.com for details. |
Re: Honda Accord 94 - ignition problem
michalis0@gmail.com wrote:
> Also, today when I tried to start the car, I noticed that > sometimes the dashboard indicators didn't light on > when the key was in the "on" position (first time is happened > I think). > ignition switch. go to tegger.com for details. |
Re: Honda Accord 94 - ignition problem
Thanks for the help. Any chances it's the main relay?
Are there any indications to find out which? If it's the relay I should not hear the fuel pump in the beginning? (Not sure how that sounds, but it does seem awfully quiet...not sure though) thanks! michael jim beam wrote: > michalis0@gmail.com wrote: > > Also, today when I tried to start the car, I noticed that > > sometimes the dashboard indicators didn't light on > > when the key was in the "on" position (first time is happened > > I think). > > > ignition switch. go to tegger.com for details. |
Re: Honda Accord 94 - ignition problem
Thanks for the help. Any chances it's the main relay?
Are there any indications to find out which? If it's the relay I should not hear the fuel pump in the beginning? (Not sure how that sounds, but it does seem awfully quiet...not sure though) thanks! michael jim beam wrote: > michalis0@gmail.com wrote: > > Also, today when I tried to start the car, I noticed that > > sometimes the dashboard indicators didn't light on > > when the key was in the "on" position (first time is happened > > I think). > > > ignition switch. go to tegger.com for details. |
Re: Honda Accord 94 - ignition problem
Thanks for the help. Any chances it's the main relay?
Are there any indications to find out which? If it's the relay I should not hear the fuel pump in the beginning? (Not sure how that sounds, but it does seem awfully quiet...not sure though) thanks! michael jim beam wrote: > michalis0@gmail.com wrote: > > Also, today when I tried to start the car, I noticed that > > sometimes the dashboard indicators didn't light on > > when the key was in the "on" position (first time is happened > > I think). > > > ignition switch. go to tegger.com for details. |
Re: Honda Accord 94 - ignition problem
Thanks for the help. Any chances it's the main relay?
Are there any indications to find out which? If it's the relay I should not hear the fuel pump in the beginning? (Not sure how that sounds, but it does seem awfully quiet...not sure though) thanks! michael jim beam wrote: > michalis0@gmail.com wrote: > > Also, today when I tried to start the car, I noticed that > > sometimes the dashboard indicators didn't light on > > when the key was in the "on" position (first time is happened > > I think). > > > ignition switch. go to tegger.com for details. |
Re: Honda Accord 94 - ignition problem
michalis0@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks for the help. Any chances it's the main relay? > Are there any indications to find out which? relay often shows a code 16 on the ecu. but the symptoms you describe, dead gauges, are not main relay. > > If it's the relay I should not hear the fuel pump in the beginning? > (Not sure how that sounds, but it does seem awfully quiet...not sure > though) > > thanks! > michael > > > jim beam wrote: >> michalis0@gmail.com wrote: >>> Also, today when I tried to start the car, I noticed that >>> sometimes the dashboard indicators didn't light on >>> when the key was in the "on" position (first time is happened >>> I think). >>> >> ignition switch. go to tegger.com for details. > |
Re: Honda Accord 94 - ignition problem
michalis0@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks for the help. Any chances it's the main relay? > Are there any indications to find out which? relay often shows a code 16 on the ecu. but the symptoms you describe, dead gauges, are not main relay. > > If it's the relay I should not hear the fuel pump in the beginning? > (Not sure how that sounds, but it does seem awfully quiet...not sure > though) > > thanks! > michael > > > jim beam wrote: >> michalis0@gmail.com wrote: >>> Also, today when I tried to start the car, I noticed that >>> sometimes the dashboard indicators didn't light on >>> when the key was in the "on" position (first time is happened >>> I think). >>> >> ignition switch. go to tegger.com for details. > |
Re: Honda Accord 94 - ignition problem
michalis0@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks for the help. Any chances it's the main relay? > Are there any indications to find out which? relay often shows a code 16 on the ecu. but the symptoms you describe, dead gauges, are not main relay. > > If it's the relay I should not hear the fuel pump in the beginning? > (Not sure how that sounds, but it does seem awfully quiet...not sure > though) > > thanks! > michael > > > jim beam wrote: >> michalis0@gmail.com wrote: >>> Also, today when I tried to start the car, I noticed that >>> sometimes the dashboard indicators didn't light on >>> when the key was in the "on" position (first time is happened >>> I think). >>> >> ignition switch. go to tegger.com for details. > |
Re: Honda Accord 94 - ignition problem
michalis0@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks for the help. Any chances it's the main relay? > Are there any indications to find out which? relay often shows a code 16 on the ecu. but the symptoms you describe, dead gauges, are not main relay. > > If it's the relay I should not hear the fuel pump in the beginning? > (Not sure how that sounds, but it does seem awfully quiet...not sure > though) > > thanks! > michael > > > jim beam wrote: >> michalis0@gmail.com wrote: >>> Also, today when I tried to start the car, I noticed that >>> sometimes the dashboard indicators didn't light on >>> when the key was in the "on" position (first time is happened >>> I think). >>> >> ignition switch. go to tegger.com for details. > |
Re: Honda Accord 94 - ignition problem
thank you for the advice. It seems it was the ignition switch. I tried the ignition switch with a screwdriver before putting it to place and the car started and the lights turned on when at position "II". To take the old one off was very tricky (don't know people on the websites describe it in 3 steps!) We had to disassemble it, otherwise there was no space to take it out. Also, putting the ignition switch in place took very long time, because we had to disassemble and assemble it again to put it to place. Now for the bad news and to make the long story short... It seems that the first time we put it back, we didn't place the clip on (which holds the prongs in place), so when we put the wires on the switch probably some of the ignition switch prongs were pushed back. When we turned the engine on again (using the key now ), something shorted and burned (we heard a 'tsaf'). When I opened the fuse box it looks like the part on the bottom right where some cables come in the fuse box burned. Next time that we tried to crank the engine, there is no crank and I see some small indication of smoke from the negative pole of the battery(!). After that we placed the ignition switch properly, but the bad was already done. So now, when turning key to ignite: 0. At "II" indicators will light 1. At "III" no crank 2. Smoke from neg. battery pole 3. Bottom right part of fuse box when some cables come in, seems to be burned. (will post picture if necessary) 4. Battery is ok though (still at 12.5v) Thanks for your previous advice. Any suggestions now? Can that burned part be replaced? I think I have to cut some cables and reconnect them. I hope I don't screw up more after that... michael |
Re: Honda Accord 94 - ignition problem
thank you for the advice. It seems it was the ignition switch. I tried the ignition switch with a screwdriver before putting it to place and the car started and the lights turned on when at position "II". To take the old one off was very tricky (don't know people on the websites describe it in 3 steps!) We had to disassemble it, otherwise there was no space to take it out. Also, putting the ignition switch in place took very long time, because we had to disassemble and assemble it again to put it to place. Now for the bad news and to make the long story short... It seems that the first time we put it back, we didn't place the clip on (which holds the prongs in place), so when we put the wires on the switch probably some of the ignition switch prongs were pushed back. When we turned the engine on again (using the key now ), something shorted and burned (we heard a 'tsaf'). When I opened the fuse box it looks like the part on the bottom right where some cables come in the fuse box burned. Next time that we tried to crank the engine, there is no crank and I see some small indication of smoke from the negative pole of the battery(!). After that we placed the ignition switch properly, but the bad was already done. So now, when turning key to ignite: 0. At "II" indicators will light 1. At "III" no crank 2. Smoke from neg. battery pole 3. Bottom right part of fuse box when some cables come in, seems to be burned. (will post picture if necessary) 4. Battery is ok though (still at 12.5v) Thanks for your previous advice. Any suggestions now? Can that burned part be replaced? I think I have to cut some cables and reconnect them. I hope I don't screw up more after that... michael |
Re: Honda Accord 94 - ignition problem
thank you for the advice. It seems it was the ignition switch. I tried the ignition switch with a screwdriver before putting it to place and the car started and the lights turned on when at position "II". To take the old one off was very tricky (don't know people on the websites describe it in 3 steps!) We had to disassemble it, otherwise there was no space to take it out. Also, putting the ignition switch in place took very long time, because we had to disassemble and assemble it again to put it to place. Now for the bad news and to make the long story short... It seems that the first time we put it back, we didn't place the clip on (which holds the prongs in place), so when we put the wires on the switch probably some of the ignition switch prongs were pushed back. When we turned the engine on again (using the key now ), something shorted and burned (we heard a 'tsaf'). When I opened the fuse box it looks like the part on the bottom right where some cables come in the fuse box burned. Next time that we tried to crank the engine, there is no crank and I see some small indication of smoke from the negative pole of the battery(!). After that we placed the ignition switch properly, but the bad was already done. So now, when turning key to ignite: 0. At "II" indicators will light 1. At "III" no crank 2. Smoke from neg. battery pole 3. Bottom right part of fuse box when some cables come in, seems to be burned. (will post picture if necessary) 4. Battery is ok though (still at 12.5v) Thanks for your previous advice. Any suggestions now? Can that burned part be replaced? I think I have to cut some cables and reconnect them. I hope I don't screw up more after that... michael |
Re: Honda Accord 94 - ignition problem
thank you for the advice. It seems it was the ignition switch. I tried the ignition switch with a screwdriver before putting it to place and the car started and the lights turned on when at position "II". To take the old one off was very tricky (don't know people on the websites describe it in 3 steps!) We had to disassemble it, otherwise there was no space to take it out. Also, putting the ignition switch in place took very long time, because we had to disassemble and assemble it again to put it to place. Now for the bad news and to make the long story short... It seems that the first time we put it back, we didn't place the clip on (which holds the prongs in place), so when we put the wires on the switch probably some of the ignition switch prongs were pushed back. When we turned the engine on again (using the key now ), something shorted and burned (we heard a 'tsaf'). When I opened the fuse box it looks like the part on the bottom right where some cables come in the fuse box burned. Next time that we tried to crank the engine, there is no crank and I see some small indication of smoke from the negative pole of the battery(!). After that we placed the ignition switch properly, but the bad was already done. So now, when turning key to ignite: 0. At "II" indicators will light 1. At "III" no crank 2. Smoke from neg. battery pole 3. Bottom right part of fuse box when some cables come in, seems to be burned. (will post picture if necessary) 4. Battery is ok though (still at 12.5v) Thanks for your previous advice. Any suggestions now? Can that burned part be replaced? I think I have to cut some cables and reconnect them. I hope I don't screw up more after that... michael |
Re: Honda Accord 94 - ignition problem
michalis0@gmail.com wrote in
news:1153520658.796650.323340@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com: > > thank you for the advice. It seems > it was the ignition switch. > > I tried the ignition switch with a screwdriver > before putting it to place and the car started > and the lights turned on when at position "II". > > To take the old one off was very tricky (don't know > people on the websites describe it in 3 steps!) > We had to disassemble it, otherwise there was no space to take it out. > Also, putting the ignition switch in place took very > long time, because we had to disassemble and assemble it again > to put it to place. > > Now for the bad news and to make the long story short... > It seems that the first time we put it back, we didn't place > the clip on (which holds the prongs in place), so when we > put the wires on the switch probably some of the ignition switch > prongs were pushed back. When we turned the engine on again (using the > key now > > ), something shorted and burned (we heard a 'tsaf'). When I opened the > fuse box > > it looks like the part on the bottom right where some cables come in > the fuse > > box burned. > > Next time that we tried to crank the engine, there is no crank > and I see some small indication of smoke from the negative pole > of the battery(!). > > After that we placed the ignition switch properly, but the bad > was already done. So now, when turning key to ignite: > > 0. At "II" indicators will light > 1. At "III" no crank > 2. Smoke from neg. battery pole > 3. Bottom right part of fuse box when some cables come in, seems > to be burned. (will post picture if necessary) > 4. Battery is ok though (still at 12.5v) > > Thanks for your previous advice. Any suggestions now? > Can that burned part be replaced? I think I have to cut some > cables and reconnect them. I hope I don't screw up more after that... > > michael > > Now take it to a shop competent in auto electric repairs!!! Before you burn your car up further,and maybe your garage with it. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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