Re: Honda Break Fluid
 

worried user wrote:
>
> Right! But, is the manual right if you use other fulids it results in
> system corrosion?


All conventional (DOT 3/4) brake fluids are hydroscopic. All will absorb
moisture and eventually corrode brake systems. Flushing (by bleeding)
the system every two to four years will take care of this issue.

DOT 5 brake fluids are silicon based and do not absorb moisture.
However, other issues must be addressed when using these fluids.

HINT: Dealership service is a big profit operation, much more so than
the sale of the original vehicle. Sorta like the ink jet printers where
the real profit is made on replacement cartridges when the original
printer was sold for little or no profit...

JT

(Dealers are generally NOT your friend..)

Re: Honda Break Fluid
 

Thank you Mike for sharing your insight! Knowing what you went
through, I am going to stick to Honda break fluid for sure now!
Cheers

Re: Honda Break Fluid
 

Thank you Mike for sharing your insight! Knowing what you went
through, I am going to stick to Honda break fluid for sure now!
Cheers

Re: Honda Break Fluid
 

Thank you Mike for sharing your insight! Knowing what you went
through, I am going to stick to Honda break fluid for sure now!
Cheers

Re: Honda Break Fluid
 

"Dealers are generally NOT your friend" I agree!

Not knowing about break systems in cars, I can only trust the owner's
manual or people with intimate knowledge of what is going on that might
corrode break system. Your answer defiantly helped me to understand a
bit more. Thank you!

However, I think I am going to pay a bit more and take my car to the
dealer for this particular service.

Re: Honda Break Fluid
 

"Dealers are generally NOT your friend" I agree!

Not knowing about break systems in cars, I can only trust the owner's
manual or people with intimate knowledge of what is going on that might
corrode break system. Your answer defiantly helped me to understand a
bit more. Thank you!

However, I think I am going to pay a bit more and take my car to the
dealer for this particular service.

Re: Honda Break Fluid
 

"Dealers are generally NOT your friend" I agree!

Not knowing about break systems in cars, I can only trust the owner's
manual or people with intimate knowledge of what is going on that might
corrode break system. Your answer defiantly helped me to understand a
bit more. Thank you!

However, I think I am going to pay a bit more and take my car to the
dealer for this particular service.

Re: Honda Break Fluid
 

"worried user" <mnahvi@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1148174652.848880.112850@j73g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> My Honda Civic 2002 owner's manual states that the break fluid MUST be
> replaced every 3 years.




I change my BRAKE fluid every YEAR. This way I prevent my BRAKES from
breaking.




> Furthermore, it states that ONLY Dot 3 Heavy
> Duty Honda break fluid must be used. The manual states that the use of
> other break fluids apart from Honda's will result in system corrosion.
> My mechanic tells me that I should not bother about only using Honda
> break fluid, and that he is using Dot 4 in his shop.



And I'll bet he uses ATF in Honda power steering systems too.



> He says that what
> the owner's manual says about only using Honda break fluid is nonsense.
> Should I believe him and use his Dot 4 fluid?
>



Honda is quite specific with some of their fluids. The BRAKE fluid in your
car is one of them. Excerpt from your car's factory shop manual:
"Always use Honda DOT 3 brake fluid. Non-Honda brake fluid can cause
corrosion and shorten the life of the system."

You can listen to your mechanic if you like, but is he going to pay you for
any BRAKE system damage that may occur?

Don't be a cheapskate, do the job right. Have you prices ABS parts lately?





--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Honda Break Fluid
 

"worried user" <mnahvi@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1148174652.848880.112850@j73g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> My Honda Civic 2002 owner's manual states that the break fluid MUST be
> replaced every 3 years.




I change my BRAKE fluid every YEAR. This way I prevent my BRAKES from
breaking.




> Furthermore, it states that ONLY Dot 3 Heavy
> Duty Honda break fluid must be used. The manual states that the use of
> other break fluids apart from Honda's will result in system corrosion.
> My mechanic tells me that I should not bother about only using Honda
> break fluid, and that he is using Dot 4 in his shop.



And I'll bet he uses ATF in Honda power steering systems too.



> He says that what
> the owner's manual says about only using Honda break fluid is nonsense.
> Should I believe him and use his Dot 4 fluid?
>



Honda is quite specific with some of their fluids. The BRAKE fluid in your
car is one of them. Excerpt from your car's factory shop manual:
"Always use Honda DOT 3 brake fluid. Non-Honda brake fluid can cause
corrosion and shorten the life of the system."

You can listen to your mechanic if you like, but is he going to pay you for
any BRAKE system damage that may occur?

Don't be a cheapskate, do the job right. Have you prices ABS parts lately?





--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Honda Break Fluid
 

"worried user" <mnahvi@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1148174652.848880.112850@j73g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> My Honda Civic 2002 owner's manual states that the break fluid MUST be
> replaced every 3 years.




I change my BRAKE fluid every YEAR. This way I prevent my BRAKES from
breaking.




> Furthermore, it states that ONLY Dot 3 Heavy
> Duty Honda break fluid must be used. The manual states that the use of
> other break fluids apart from Honda's will result in system corrosion.
> My mechanic tells me that I should not bother about only using Honda
> break fluid, and that he is using Dot 4 in his shop.



And I'll bet he uses ATF in Honda power steering systems too.



> He says that what
> the owner's manual says about only using Honda break fluid is nonsense.
> Should I believe him and use his Dot 4 fluid?
>



Honda is quite specific with some of their fluids. The BRAKE fluid in your
car is one of them. Excerpt from your car's factory shop manual:
"Always use Honda DOT 3 brake fluid. Non-Honda brake fluid can cause
corrosion and shorten the life of the system."

You can listen to your mechanic if you like, but is he going to pay you for
any BRAKE system damage that may occur?

Don't be a cheapskate, do the job right. Have you prices ABS parts lately?





--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Honda Break Fluid
 

"worried user" <mnahvi@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1148265683.684496.133220@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> "Dealers are generally NOT your friend" I agree!
>
> Not knowing about break systems in cars, I can only trust the owner's
> manual or people with intimate knowledge of what is going on that might
> corrode break system. Your answer defiantly helped me to understand a
> bit more. Thank you!



It's spelt BRAKE, not "break".

The primary reason Honda specifies their own branded brake fluid is that
this way they can avoid the variability in quality of aftermarket fluids.

All brake fluids contain anti-corrosion additives, some more and better,
and some less and worse, than others. The use of low-quality fluids will
result in accelerated corrosion on account of poor quality corrosion
inhibitors.

Such parts as ABS modulators will suffer extremely expensive damage over
time from the use of fluids with poor corrosion protection.



>
> However, I think I am going to pay a bit more and take my car to the
> dealer for this particular service.
>
>


Excellent idea. An extra fifty bucks here will save you thousands later.



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Honda Break Fluid
 

"worried user" <mnahvi@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1148265683.684496.133220@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> "Dealers are generally NOT your friend" I agree!
>
> Not knowing about break systems in cars, I can only trust the owner's
> manual or people with intimate knowledge of what is going on that might
> corrode break system. Your answer defiantly helped me to understand a
> bit more. Thank you!



It's spelt BRAKE, not "break".

The primary reason Honda specifies their own branded brake fluid is that
this way they can avoid the variability in quality of aftermarket fluids.

All brake fluids contain anti-corrosion additives, some more and better,
and some less and worse, than others. The use of low-quality fluids will
result in accelerated corrosion on account of poor quality corrosion
inhibitors.

Such parts as ABS modulators will suffer extremely expensive damage over
time from the use of fluids with poor corrosion protection.



>
> However, I think I am going to pay a bit more and take my car to the
> dealer for this particular service.
>
>


Excellent idea. An extra fifty bucks here will save you thousands later.



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Honda Break Fluid
 

"worried user" <mnahvi@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1148265683.684496.133220@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> "Dealers are generally NOT your friend" I agree!
>
> Not knowing about break systems in cars, I can only trust the owner's
> manual or people with intimate knowledge of what is going on that might
> corrode break system. Your answer defiantly helped me to understand a
> bit more. Thank you!



It's spelt BRAKE, not "break".

The primary reason Honda specifies their own branded brake fluid is that
this way they can avoid the variability in quality of aftermarket fluids.

All brake fluids contain anti-corrosion additives, some more and better,
and some less and worse, than others. The use of low-quality fluids will
result in accelerated corrosion on account of poor quality corrosion
inhibitors.

Such parts as ABS modulators will suffer extremely expensive damage over
time from the use of fluids with poor corrosion protection.



>
> However, I think I am going to pay a bit more and take my car to the
> dealer for this particular service.
>
>


Excellent idea. An extra fifty bucks here will save you thousands later.



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/