Re: Honda Civic -- able to convert to bio-diesal?
 

In article <ahlch01b6nq008rr0une4lg9uenqjb6h9t@4ax.com>,
George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote:

> alternate bio-fuels are just
> another political fraud.

French-fry oil is a perfectly valid fuel. No fraud about that.

Re: Honda Civic -- able to convert to bio-diesal?
 

In article <ahlch01b6nq008rr0une4lg9uenqjb6h9t@4ax.com>,
George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote:

> alternate bio-fuels are just
> another political fraud.

French-fry oil is a perfectly valid fuel. No fraud about that.

Re: Honda Civic -- able to convert to bio-diesal?
 

You would be well advised to start with a diesel engine car if you want to
run bio-diesel.

As far as DIY alternative fuel conversions ..... the state of the art is not
up to anything you would call competititve with as built automobiles.

John

Re: Honda Civic -- able to convert to bio-diesal?
 

You would be well advised to start with a diesel engine car if you want to
run bio-diesel.

As far as DIY alternative fuel conversions ..... the state of the art is not
up to anything you would call competititve with as built automobiles.

John

Re: Honda Civic -- able to convert to bio-diesal?
 

George Macdonald wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 11:03:30 -0500, "hmc" <ciaochou2@yahoo.smooth.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi, I'm new to this group. I have an old (96) Honda Civic LX. I just got
>>another car, and I was thinking that I would convert my Civic into a
>>hybrid/alt-fuel/bio-diesel car. Anyone know if this is possible? And if so,
>>how much it would cost? Is there some sort of converter that you can
>>install? I've been hunting the Web sites, but I'm not finding much.
>
>
> Why would you want to do that? If it's as an interesting engineering
> project exercise, it's been done umpteen times in the .edu world. If it's
> to satisfy some "green" urge, forget it - alternate bio-fuels are just
> another political fraud.

tell that to the guy that runs his car off old fry oil from fast food
joints. its legit, but the tinkering and crap involved to me wouldnt be
worth it.

btw- best bet would be to sell the civic, and get an old diesel rabbit.
theyre a dime a dozen, junkyards are full of em, and it would be the
ideal candidate for the tinkering, since its already designed to burn oil.

newer VWs burn oil regardless :)

Re: Honda Civic -- able to convert to bio-diesal?
 

George Macdonald wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 11:03:30 -0500, "hmc" <ciaochou2@yahoo.smooth.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi, I'm new to this group. I have an old (96) Honda Civic LX. I just got
>>another car, and I was thinking that I would convert my Civic into a
>>hybrid/alt-fuel/bio-diesel car. Anyone know if this is possible? And if so,
>>how much it would cost? Is there some sort of converter that you can
>>install? I've been hunting the Web sites, but I'm not finding much.
>
>
> Why would you want to do that? If it's as an interesting engineering
> project exercise, it's been done umpteen times in the .edu world. If it's
> to satisfy some "green" urge, forget it - alternate bio-fuels are just
> another political fraud.

tell that to the guy that runs his car off old fry oil from fast food
joints. its legit, but the tinkering and crap involved to me wouldnt be
worth it.

btw- best bet would be to sell the civic, and get an old diesel rabbit.
theyre a dime a dozen, junkyards are full of em, and it would be the
ideal candidate for the tinkering, since its already designed to burn oil.

newer VWs burn oil regardless :)

Re: Honda Civic -- able to convert to bio-diesal?
 

On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 14:02:56 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <ahlch01b6nq008rr0une4lg9uenqjb6h9t@4ax.com>,
> George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote:
>
>> alternate bio-fuels are just
>> another political fraud.
>
>French-fry oil is a perfectly valid fuel. No fraud about that.

The scale is all wrong for distribution as a fuel - a waste of time and may
need adjustments to diesel engines' fuel delivery and storage. Many
cooking oils also gum and lacquer very badly at even moderate temps.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Re: Honda Civic -- able to convert to bio-diesal?
 

On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 14:02:56 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <ahlch01b6nq008rr0une4lg9uenqjb6h9t@4ax.com>,
> George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote:
>
>> alternate bio-fuels are just
>> another political fraud.
>
>French-fry oil is a perfectly valid fuel. No fraud about that.

The scale is all wrong for distribution as a fuel - a waste of time and may
need adjustments to diesel engines' fuel delivery and storage. Many
cooking oils also gum and lacquer very badly at even moderate temps.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Re: Honda Civic -- able to convert to bio-diesal?
 

George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote:
> The scale is all wrong for distribution as a fuel - a waste of time and may
> need adjustments to diesel engines' fuel delivery and storage. Many
> cooking oils also gum and lacquer very badly at even moderate temps.

Oh, but they are said to smell ever so good!

Some city north of San Francisco, CA converted their garbage truck fleet to
bio-diesel. There are storage issues, and filtering issues, but the
combination of "free" fuel, and pulling the oil out of the recycling stream
makes it viable, although at a financial loss compared to normal diesel.


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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

Re: Honda Civic -- able to convert to bio-diesal?
 

George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote:
> The scale is all wrong for distribution as a fuel - a waste of time and may
> need adjustments to diesel engines' fuel delivery and storage. Many
> cooking oils also gum and lacquer very badly at even moderate temps.

Oh, but they are said to smell ever so good!

Some city north of San Francisco, CA converted their garbage truck fleet to
bio-diesel. There are storage issues, and filtering issues, but the
combination of "free" fuel, and pulling the oil out of the recycling stream
makes it viable, although at a financial loss compared to normal diesel.


--
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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

Re: Honda Civic -- able to convert to bio-diesal?
 

In article <4114fe43$0$5904$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>,
hmc <ciaochou2@yahoo.smooth.com> wrote:
>Hi, I'm new to this group. I have an old (96) Honda Civic LX. I just got
>another car, and I was thinking that I would convert my Civic into a
>hybrid/alt-fuel/bio-diesel car. Anyone know if this is possible?

You'd need to put a diesel engine in the car to run it on biodiesel.

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Re: Honda Civic -- able to convert to bio-diesal?
 

In article <4114fe43$0$5904$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>,
hmc <ciaochou2@yahoo.smooth.com> wrote:
>Hi, I'm new to this group. I have an old (96) Honda Civic LX. I just got
>another car, and I was thinking that I would convert my Civic into a
>hybrid/alt-fuel/bio-diesel car. Anyone know if this is possible?

You'd need to put a diesel engine in the car to run it on biodiesel.

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Timothy J. Lee
Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome.
No warranty of any kind is provided with this message.