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Honda Factory BS
On February 15th - my birthday - I was driving down to Florida on I95.
Somewhere in South Carolina near Timmonsville at about 1AM, I made an ill-fated mistake. While I was at a gas station I decided to check the oil level in my Civic, and it was a little low; so I get some oil and start pouring it and this Jamaican guy comes up to me and starts talking to me about how he likes the way I drive because it keeps him awake. It was hard to understand him with his accent, and I was too busy concentrating on him and wasn't paying enough attention to the problem at hand. Anyways, I closed the hood and drove off, not realizing that I didn't put the oil cap back on. So I'm driving down I95S while I finally realize, OH I FORGOT MY OIL CAP. I pulled over at the first exit I could find and popped the hood. There was oil everywhere and the cap was nowhere to be found. I had to plug it with something because I had a long way to go, and waiting til morning was not an option since I had an emergency to tend to down in Florida, so I used the ONLY thing I could which was a wrapped up piece of cardboard. Now I had a piece of cardboard in the hole that's supposed to have an oil cap. I can't imagine what that extra paper fiber and such has done, getting into my oil and doing who-knows-what to my bearings and every other metal-to-metal connection in the engine. A few miles down the road, I see "Honda Way" at Timmonsville, and the big Honda factory off the side of the interstate. I figured I'd pull over and see if I could get some help. When I pulled up to the guard station at the outside of the factory, I was met by this black lady with short hair. I asked her if she could please help me acquire an oil cap, and I'd be willing to pay just about ANYTHING for the help, but she just replied that "We don't sell car parts" with a snotty attitude and told me to drive down the interstate to the nearest Exxon station. Gee... thanks. I ended up driving the next 450 miles with my ghetto cardboard oil cap and my fairly-new engine is probably almost ruined. You can't tell me that they didn't have probably thousands of oil caps in that factory. This part that costs them a few dollars could've saved me thousands, but they don't have the courtesy to go a LITTLE out of their way to help a loyal customer? And to think I would've paid anything for that cap. It's disgusting. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Just my opinion, but shucks no a factory is not an ordinary retail business
and certainly not in the small hours of the morning. How's the engine sound right now? You never got the low oil pressure light on, right? If you have nothing but a greasy engine exterior, and have since found a suitable cap, then change the oil a couple of times (for peace of mind), clean up the engine (cover electrical parts with plastic wrap), and forget about this. Enjoy your Honda. :-) |
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> Just my opinion, but shucks no a factory is not an ordinary retail
> business and certainly not in the small hours of the morning. Sure, they're not a regular business, but we're talking about something so small yet so important; something that could've been easily replaced to avoid major problems. > How's the engine sound right now? You never got the low oil pressure > light on, right? I never got the oil light but the engine does sound odd. I hear a noise that sounds like a valve ticking or something, the kind of thing I normally hear when the engine's cold, only the noise persists now and doesn't go away. I'm sick to my stomach just thinking about it. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
Re: Honda Factory BS
> Original post seems to be missing. Hmmm. > Maybe your server has strict filtering... here's what I posted... On February 15th - my birthday - I was driving down to Florida on I95. Somewhere in South Carolina near Timmonsville at about 1AM, I made an ill-fated mistake. While I was at a gas station I decided to check the oil level in my Civic, and it was a little low; so I get some oil and start pouring it and this Jamaican guy comes up to me and starts talking to me about how he likes the way I drive because it keeps him awake. It was hard to understand him with his accent, and I was too busy concentrating on him and wasn't paying enough attention to the problem at hand. Anyways, I closed the hood and drove off, not realizing that I didn't put the oil cap back on. So I'm driving down I95S while I finally realize, OH SH*T I FORGOT MY OIL CAP. I pulled over at the first exit I could find and popped the hood. There was oil everywhere and the cap was nowhere to be found. I had to plug it with something because I had a long way to go, and waiting til morning was not an option since I had an emergency to tend to down in Florida, so I used the ONLY thing I could which was a wrapped up piece of cardboard. Now I had a piece of cardboard in the hole that's supposed to have an oil cap. I can't imagine what that extra paper fiber and such has done, getting into my oil and doing who-knows-what to my bearings and every other metal-to-metal connection in the engine. A few miles down the road, I see "Honda Way" at Timmonsville, and the big Honda factory off the side of the interstate. I figured I'd pull over and see if I could get some help. When I pulled up to the guard station at the outside of the factory, I was met by this black lady with short hair. I asked her if she could please help me acquire an oil cap, and I'd be willing to pay just about ANYTHING for the help, but she just replied that "We don't sell car parts" with a snotty attitude and told me to drive down the interstate to the nearest Exxon station. Gee... thanks. I ended up driving the next 450 miles with my ghetto cardboard oil cap and my fairly-new engine is probably almost ruined. You can't tell me that they didn't have probably thousands of oil caps in that factory. This part that costs them a few dollars could've saved me thousands, but they don't have the courtesy to go a LITTLE out of their way to help a loyal customer? And to think I would've paid anything for that cap. It's disgusting. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Original post seems to be missing. Hmmm.
Elle wrote: > > Just my opinion, but shucks no a factory is not an ordinary retail business > and certainly not in the small hours of the morning. > > How's the engine sound right now? You never got the low oil pressure light > on, right? > > If you have nothing but a greasy engine exterior, and have since found a > suitable cap, then change the oil a couple of times (for peace of mind), > clean up the engine (cover electrical parts with plastic wrap), and forget > about this. > > Enjoy your Honda. :-) |
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Waiving the right to remain silent, Knut <econospeed@yahoo.nospam>
said: > A few miles down the road, I see "Honda Way" at Timmonsville, > and the big Honda factory off the side of the interstate. I > figured I'd pull over and see if I could get some help. If it hadn't been 1am, with only a guard at the plant, you probably could have gotten to someone to help you. Just bad luck... -- Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail "I've come here to enjoy nature. Don't talk to me about the environment!" - 'Denny Crane' |
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"Knut" <econospeed@yahoo.nospam> wrote
>> Just my opinion, but shucks no a factory is not an ordinary retail >> business and certainly not in the small hours of the morning. > > Sure, they're not a regular business, but we're talking about something so > small yet so important; something that could've been easily replaced to > avoid major problems. > >> How's the engine sound right now? You never got the low oil pressure >> light on, right? > > I never got the oil light but the engine does sound odd. I hear a noise > that sounds like a valve ticking or something, the kind of thing I > normally > hear when the engine's cold, only the noise persists now and doesn't go > away. I'm sick to my stomach just thinking about it. Hm. It's hard to imagine how a little cardboard material, deriving perhaps from your temporary fix, would cause serious problems. And the cardboard was wrapped in... ? The engine at most pulses gases into the valve cover area: In, out, etc. So it's not like it would constantly suck the cardboard down there. I assume it was soaked with oil 450 miles or so later when you finally replaced it. I think I'd just do those oil changes and have an independent import shop do a valve lash check and adjust, telling them what happened with the oil fill cap. Not that the valve lash somehow is out of whack because of this mishap. Like you say, the ticking it happening all the time. Rather, it gets the technicians under the valve cover and subsequently checking things there. It's hard for me to believe this would cause a serious mal-lubrication problem, even if driving for 450 miles. That wrapped up piece of cardboard stayed put, right? Maybe clean up your PCV valve and connecting pipes, too. That valve can click with irregular flow. I am using carburetor cleaner on it lately. The carb cleaner can says to use it on PCV systems, too. I have also used PB Blaster on the PCV valve. I dumped some STP gas treatment in my fuel system (twice!) a few months ago and probably should have done an oil change within two weeks, 'cause now it seems to be fouling my PCV valve (not seriously, but definitely noticeably--little waxy carbony oily specks). My mileage is down a bit, too, even for winter driving. For the record, how many years and miles on this Civic? Updates welcome. Hopefully your obviously careful followup will prove this to be inconsequential. |
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"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
news:btnJf.1360$VI6.885@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net: > "Knut" <econospeed@yahoo.nospam> wrote >>> Just my opinion, but shucks no a factory is not an ordinary retail >>> business and certainly not in the small hours of the morning. >> >> Sure, they're not a regular business, but we're talking about >> something so small yet so important; something that could've been >> easily replaced to avoid major problems. >> >>> How's the engine sound right now? You never got the low oil pressure >>> light on, right? >> >> I never got the oil light but the engine does sound odd. I hear a >> noise that sounds like a valve ticking or something, the kind of >> thing I normally >> hear when the engine's cold, only the noise persists now and doesn't >> go away. I'm sick to my stomach just thinking about it. > > Hm. It's hard to imagine how a little cardboard material, deriving > perhaps from your temporary fix, would cause serious problems. And the > cardboard was wrapped in... ? > > The engine at most pulses gases into the valve cover area: In, out, > etc. So it's not like it would constantly suck the cardboard down > there. I assume it was soaked with oil 450 miles or so later when you > finally replaced it. > > I think I'd just do those oil changes and have an independent import > shop do a valve lash check and adjust, telling them what happened with > the oil fill cap. > > Not that the valve lash somehow is out of whack because of this > mishap. Like you say, the ticking it happening all the time. Rather, > it gets the technicians under the valve cover and subsequently > checking things there. > > It's hard for me to believe this would cause a serious mal-lubrication > problem, even if driving for 450 miles. That wrapped up piece of > cardboard stayed put, right? > > Maybe clean up your PCV valve and connecting pipes, too. That valve > can click with irregular flow. I am using carburetor cleaner on it > lately. The carb cleaner can says to use it on PCV systems, too. I > have also used PB Blaster on the PCV valve. > > I dumped some STP gas treatment in my fuel system (twice!) a few > months ago and probably should have done an oil change within two > weeks, 'cause now it seems to be fouling my PCV valve (not seriously, > but definitely noticeably--little waxy carbony oily specks). My > mileage is down a bit, too, even for winter driving. > > For the record, how many years and miles on this Civic? > > Updates welcome. Hopefully your obviously careful followup will prove > this to be inconsequential. > > > On the Civic are 223k, but on the engine are approx 40k. I think you may be onto something about the PCV. I did notice that the rear of my car had accumulated an odd black stain, I suppose from burnt oil, and although the oil light did not come on, the oil reserve was nearly empty by the time I got to Florida. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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"Knut" <econospeed@yahoo.nospam> wrote in message news:Xns976D7C7B1E6E1econospeedyahoonospa@38.119.1 00.145... > "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in > news:btnJf.1360$VI6.885@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net: > >> "Knut" <econospeed@yahoo.nospam> wrote >>>> Just my opinion, but shucks no a factory is not an ordinary retail >>>> business and certainly not in the small hours of the morning. >>> >>> Sure, they're not a regular business, but we're talking about >>> something so small yet so important; something that could've been >>> easily replaced to avoid major problems. >>> >>>> How's the engine sound right now? You never got the low oil pressure >>>> light on, right? >>> >>> I never got the oil light but the engine does sound odd. I hear a >>> noise that sounds like a valve ticking or something, the kind of >>> thing I normally >>> hear when the engine's cold, only the noise persists now and doesn't >>> go away. I'm sick to my stomach just thinking about it. >> >> Hm. It's hard to imagine how a little cardboard material, deriving >> perhaps from your temporary fix, would cause serious problems. And the >> cardboard was wrapped in... ? >> >> The engine at most pulses gases into the valve cover area: In, out, >> etc. So it's not like it would constantly suck the cardboard down >> there. I assume it was soaked with oil 450 miles or so later when you >> finally replaced it. >> >> I think I'd just do those oil changes and have an independent import >> shop do a valve lash check and adjust, telling them what happened with >> the oil fill cap. >> >> Not that the valve lash somehow is out of whack because of this >> mishap. Like you say, the ticking it happening all the time. Rather, >> it gets the technicians under the valve cover and subsequently >> checking things there. >> >> It's hard for me to believe this would cause a serious mal-lubrication >> problem, even if driving for 450 miles. That wrapped up piece of >> cardboard stayed put, right? >> >> Maybe clean up your PCV valve and connecting pipes, too. That valve >> can click with irregular flow. I am using carburetor cleaner on it >> lately. The carb cleaner can says to use it on PCV systems, too. I >> have also used PB Blaster on the PCV valve. >> >> I dumped some STP gas treatment in my fuel system (twice!) a few >> months ago and probably should have done an oil change within two >> weeks, 'cause now it seems to be fouling my PCV valve (not seriously, >> but definitely noticeably--little waxy carbony oily specks). My >> mileage is down a bit, too, even for winter driving. >> >> For the record, how many years and miles on this Civic? >> >> Updates welcome. Hopefully your obviously careful followup will prove >> this to be inconsequential. >> >> >> > > On the Civic are 223k, but on the engine are approx 40k. I think you may > be > onto something about the PCV. I did notice that the rear of my car had > accumulated an odd black stain, What do you mean by "the rear"? The rear of the engine compartment? The rear where the exhaust pipe ends? This is probably beyond my Honda experience. Maybe someone else will spot something. That PCV valve should cost under $25 from the dealer. If it's never been replaced before, maybe just go for it. Its spring does wear with time. Add something that may foul the oil system, and it may wear sooner, rather than later. Depending on which Honda Civic model you have, one can disconnect the pipe to the PCV valve, put one's finger over its inlet (or in some cases, outlet), and one should hear it operate (click!). No click, no good. A click, maybe good, maybe not. Again, just a theory. > I suppose from burnt oil, and although the > oil light did not come on, the oil reserve was nearly empty by the time I > got to Florida. I had an emergency repair in 2002 which required the tech to remove the valve cover. The kid put it back on in a rush and, I later discovered, twisted its gasket so the seal was improper. A few weeks later I was under the hood for something routine and noticed the engine's exterior covered with oil. I checked the oil and it was below the low mark. But I'd never had the low oil pressure warning light come on. Something like 35k miles and three years later, my engine has been running fine. So I think there's enough "reserve" in the oil lube system that one need only worry, as far as oil quantity is concerned, if the oil pressure light comes on. Elle Original owner, 1991 Civic, 174k miles. |
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"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
news:h5nJf.2507$UN.1067@newsread2.news.pas.earthli nk.net: > Just my opinion, but shucks no a factory is not an ordinary retail > business and certainly not in the small hours of the morning. > > How's the engine sound right now? You never got the low oil pressure > light on, right? > > If you have nothing but a greasy engine exterior, and have since found > a suitable cap, then change the oil a couple of times (for peace of > mind), clean up the engine (cover electrical parts with plastic wrap), > and forget about this. > > Enjoy your Honda. :-) > > > Ditto to all of above. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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Knut wrote:
> > "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in > news:btnJf.1360$VI6.885@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net: > > > "Knut" <econospeed@yahoo.nospam> wrote > >>> Just my opinion, but shucks no a factory is not an ordinary retail > >>> business and certainly not in the small hours of the morning. > >> > >> Sure, they're not a regular business, but we're talking about > >> something so small yet so important; something that could've been > >> easily replaced to avoid major problems. > >> > >>> How's the engine sound right now? You never got the low oil pressure > >>> light on, right? > >> > >> I never got the oil light but the engine does sound odd. I hear a > >> noise that sounds like a valve ticking or something, the kind of > >> thing I normally > >> hear when the engine's cold, only the noise persists now and doesn't > >> go away. I'm sick to my stomach just thinking about it. > > > > Hm. It's hard to imagine how a little cardboard material, deriving > > perhaps from your temporary fix, would cause serious problems. And the > > cardboard was wrapped in... ? > > > > The engine at most pulses gases into the valve cover area: In, out, > > etc. So it's not like it would constantly suck the cardboard down > > there. I assume it was soaked with oil 450 miles or so later when you > > finally replaced it. > > > > I think I'd just do those oil changes and have an independent import > > shop do a valve lash check and adjust, telling them what happened with > > the oil fill cap. > > > > Not that the valve lash somehow is out of whack because of this > > mishap. Like you say, the ticking it happening all the time. Rather, > > it gets the technicians under the valve cover and subsequently > > checking things there. > > > > It's hard for me to believe this would cause a serious mal-lubrication > > problem, even if driving for 450 miles. That wrapped up piece of > > cardboard stayed put, right? > > > > Maybe clean up your PCV valve and connecting pipes, too. That valve > > can click with irregular flow. I am using carburetor cleaner on it > > lately. The carb cleaner can says to use it on PCV systems, too. I > > have also used PB Blaster on the PCV valve. > > > > I dumped some STP gas treatment in my fuel system (twice!) a few > > months ago and probably should have done an oil change within two > > weeks, 'cause now it seems to be fouling my PCV valve (not seriously, > > but definitely noticeably--little waxy carbony oily specks). My > > mileage is down a bit, too, even for winter driving. > > > > For the record, how many years and miles on this Civic? > > > > Updates welcome. Hopefully your obviously careful followup will prove > > this to be inconsequential. > > > > > > > > On the Civic are 223k, but on the engine are approx 40k. I think you may > be onto something about the PCV. I did notice that the rear of my car had > accumulated an odd black stain, I suppose from burnt oil, and although the > oil light did not come on, the oil reserve was nearly empty by the time I > got to Florida. Have a mechanic check out the engine. In my experience, driving with low oil for an extended period of time can damage the engine. This was especially true for older models where the camshaft lobes would get worn. It could explain the valve ticking that you're hearing now. Eric |
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"Knut" <econospeed@yahoo.nospam> wrote in message
news:Xns976D796A7118Ceconospeedyahoonospa@38.119.1 00.145... > I never got the oil light but the engine does sound odd. I hear a noise > that sounds like a valve ticking or something, the kind of thing I > normally > hear when the engine's cold, only the noise persists now and doesn't go > away. I'm sick to my stomach just thinking about it. > I'm with Elle and TeGGeR; I doubt there was any identifiable damage. I had an engine suffer from oil starvation many years ago when the filter split a seam, and the oil light didn't come on until I pulled off the freeway to see why there was a cloud of smoke following me. There was a very noticable swishing sound, like a whattayacallit brush on a drum, that didn't come from the valve cover and turned into a clear rod knock by the end of the week. But if you didn't even have the light when you idled I expect you're okay. Pilots speak of their engines being "auto-rough in clouds" and I think that's the deal with the ticking - a valve sound you just didn't notice before, and now your nerves are on edge. Mike |
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Knut wrote:
<snip> translation: it's my own fault. i feel bad. i want to blame someone else so i can feel better. you want sympathy? wait your turn. bottom line is, as everyone else is saying, there's probably not much amiss. just drive the car. if there's a problem down the road, it'll be an [expensive] lesson on paying attention. bet you don't do it again. and if you /do/ do it again, stop, call aaa and get a tow home. last thing, do NOT get the engine compartment steam cleaned. it can ruin electrical connections, contaminate brake fluid and cause multiple other reliability issues. clean with gunk and a gentle stream from a garden hose. replace belts if contaminated. replace brake fluid as a precaution. |
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> Knut wrote:
> <snip> > > translation: it's my own fault. i feel bad. i want to blame someone > else so i can feel better. > > you want sympathy? wait your turn. > Actually, I am admitting fault here, and I'm not blaming Honda for my problem. That's not the issue. The problem is they didn't even put a breath of effort into even attempting to help, and that makes me rather angry. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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> and if you /do/ do it again, stop, call aaa and get a tow home.
And if you're 450 miles from home, getting a tow home is going to cost an arm and a leg, and that wasn't an option to begin with. My mother suffered from a stroke and I was trying to get to Florida in a big hurry to see her. I didn't want to be waiting in another state all night over something so simple as an oil cap. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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"Knut" <econospeed@yahoo.nospam> wrote in message news:Xns976E3F0DF774Ceconospeedyahoonospa@38.119.9 7.92... > > Actually, I am admitting fault here, and I'm not blaming Honda for my > problem. That's not the issue. The problem is they didn't even put a > breath > of effort into even attempting to help, and that makes me rather angry. Considering that a security guard has no power what- so-ever, or even work directly for Honda. You have no beef with Honda. The guard probably did as much as she was permitted to do per the company procedures. |
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Knut wrote: > > Knut wrote: > > <snip> > > > > translation: it's my own fault. i feel bad. i want to blame someone > > else so i can feel better. > > > > you want sympathy? wait your turn. > > > > Actually, I am admitting fault here, and I'm not blaming Honda for my > problem. That's not the issue. The problem is they didn't even put a breath > of effort into even attempting to help, and that makes me rather angry. You didn't put a breath of effort into helping yourself. You claim a piece of cardboard was the ONLY thing you could use to make a makeshift oil cap and that's silly. On I 95 there are about a zillion plastic soda bottles and other assorted types of discarded litter, very simple to fashion a good makeshift oil cap from something discarded or even something you had. Then you drove 450 miles? Are you saying that in 450 miles there was not one Wal-Mart or other store or service station where you could have bought something to use for an oil cap? I don't get that part of the story at all. I realize you were in a hurry, but it would have taken maybe 10 minutes to stop. I'm sure you stopped to go to the bathroom, get a bottle of soda or coffee, etc. You took the time to go to the Honda factory, you could have taken the time to stop elsewhere. |
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Brian Smith wrote: > "Knut" <econospeed@yahoo.nospam> wrote in message > news:Xns976E3F0DF774Ceconospeedyahoonospa@38.119.9 7.92... > > > > Actually, I am admitting fault here, and I'm not blaming Honda for my > > problem. That's not the issue. The problem is they didn't even put a > > breath > > of effort into even attempting to help, and that makes me rather angry. > > Considering that a security guard has no power what- so-ever, or even work > directly for Honda. You have no beef with Honda. The guard probably did as > much as she was permitted to do per the company procedures. But she was black! I don't know what that has to do with anything, but the OP felt the need to let everyone know the guard was an African-American. I wonder what her version of the story is? "Last night I was working my shift and some crazy dude shows up out of nowhere at 1am wanting to buy an oil cap for his car". "Seriously, he drives right up to the gate and asks me to sell him an oil cap, he thinks because it's a Honda factory I can just run in and grab an oil cap for him. Oh yeah, we got hundreds of oil caps, but ther're all attached to engines! Bwahahaha! What does he think this is Autozone? Come on, I told him to go to the Exxon station but he seemed kind of pissed but that's all I could do since I'm just a security guard and have strict orders. Now if it was Denzel Washington, I would have given him the oil cap off of my own car, but since he looked more like Carrot Top..." |
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trestonklease@yahoo.com wrote in
news:1140267575.997295.79280@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com: > > Knut wrote: >> > Knut wrote: >> > <snip> >> > >> > translation: it's my own fault. i feel bad. i want to blame >> > someone else so i can feel better. >> > >> > you want sympathy? wait your turn. >> > >> >> Actually, I am admitting fault here, and I'm not blaming Honda for my >> problem. That's not the issue. The problem is they didn't even put a >> breath of effort into even attempting to help, and that makes me >> rather angry. > > You didn't put a breath of effort into helping yourself. > > You claim a piece of cardboard was the ONLY thing you could use to > make a makeshift oil cap and that's silly. On I 95 there are about a > zillion plastic soda bottles and other assorted types of discarded > litter, very simple to fashion a good makeshift oil cap from something > discarded or even something you had. > > Then you drove 450 miles? Are you saying that in 450 miles there was > not one Wal-Mart or other store or service station where you could > have bought something to use for an oil cap? I don't get that part of > the story at all. I realize you were in a hurry, but it would have > taken maybe 10 minutes to stop. I'm sure you stopped to go to the > bathroom, get a bottle of soda or coffee, etc. You took the time to go > to the Honda factory, you could have taken the time to stop elsewhere. > Alright, dude. I can see you're a smart ass. I hope something similar happens to you in the future. And no, a plastic bottle cap is not going to work to plug the hole that is much larger. And what good is it going to do to stop at a wal-mart? If they don't have a honda oil cap, what good is it going to do? The cardboard I had worked as good as anything else I could have bought and wasted my money on BESIDES an actual OIL CAP. And I'm sure they have countless amounts of these at the factory that aren't being used at the moment. You're a ing jerk, you know that? Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
Re: Honda Factory BS
"Knut" <econospeed@yahoo.nospam> wrote in message
news:Xns976E5A438E09Deconospeedyahoonospa@38.119.1 00.144... > trestonklease@yahoo.com wrote in > news:1140267575.997295.79280@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com: > >> >> Knut wrote: >>> > Knut wrote: >>> > <snip> >>> > >>> > translation: it's my own fault. i feel bad. i want to blame >>> > someone else so i can feel better. >>> > >>> > you want sympathy? wait your turn. >>> > >>> >>> Actually, I am admitting fault here, and I'm not blaming Honda for my >>> problem. That's not the issue. The problem is they didn't even put a >>> breath of effort into even attempting to help, and that makes me >>> rather angry. >> >> You didn't put a breath of effort into helping yourself. >> >> You claim a piece of cardboard was the ONLY thing you could use to >> make a makeshift oil cap and that's silly. On I 95 there are about a >> zillion plastic soda bottles and other assorted types of discarded >> litter, very simple to fashion a good makeshift oil cap from something >> discarded or even something you had. >> >> Then you drove 450 miles? Are you saying that in 450 miles there was >> not one Wal-Mart or other store or service station where you could >> have bought something to use for an oil cap? I don't get that part of >> the story at all. I realize you were in a hurry, but it would have >> taken maybe 10 minutes to stop. I'm sure you stopped to go to the >> bathroom, get a bottle of soda or coffee, etc. You took the time to go >> to the Honda factory, you could have taken the time to stop elsewhere. >> > > Alright, dude. I can see you're a smart ass. I hope something similar > happens to you in the future. And no, a plastic bottle cap is not going > to work to plug the hole that is much larger. And what good is it going > to do to stop at a wal-mart? If they don't have a honda oil cap, what > good is it going to do? The cardboard I had worked as good as anything > else I could have bought and wasted my money on BESIDES an actual OIL > CAP. And I'm sure they have countless amounts of these at the factory > that aren't being used at the moment. You're a ing jerk, you know > that? Yes, and with that attitude I'm just as surprised as the next guy that a security guard that doesn't work for Honda, at 1am didn't go looking for one to accommodate you. |
Re: Honda Factory BS
Knut wrote: > trestonklease@yahoo.com wrote in > news:1140267575.997295.79280@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com: > > > > > Knut wrote: > >> > Knut wrote: > >> > <snip> > >> > > >> > translation: it's my own fault. i feel bad. i want to blame > >> > someone else so i can feel better. > >> > > >> > you want sympathy? wait your turn. > >> > > >> > >> Actually, I am admitting fault here, and I'm not blaming Honda for my > >> problem. That's not the issue. The problem is they didn't even put a > >> breath of effort into even attempting to help, and that makes me > >> rather angry. > > > > You didn't put a breath of effort into helping yourself. > > > > You claim a piece of cardboard was the ONLY thing you could use to > > make a makeshift oil cap and that's silly. On I 95 there are about a > > zillion plastic soda bottles and other assorted types of discarded > > litter, very simple to fashion a good makeshift oil cap from something > > discarded or even something you had. > > > > Then you drove 450 miles? Are you saying that in 450 miles there was > > not one Wal-Mart or other store or service station where you could > > have bought something to use for an oil cap? I don't get that part of > > the story at all. I realize you were in a hurry, but it would have > > taken maybe 10 minutes to stop. I'm sure you stopped to go to the > > bathroom, get a bottle of soda or coffee, etc. You took the time to go > > to the Honda factory, you could have taken the time to stop elsewhere. > > > > Alright, dude. I can see you're a smart ass. I hope something similar > happens to you in the future. I hope so too, I won't do something stupid like you did. It's not rocket science to plug a hole. With your attitude, I can see why the Honda guard sent you on your way empty handed. > And no, a plastic bottle cap is not going > to work to plug the hole that is much larger. And what good is it going > to do to stop at a wal-mart? If they don't have a honda oil cap, what > good is it going to do? You did check to see if a bottle cap wouldn't fit before shooting your mouth off, right? Anyhow, read what I wrote smart guy, I said a "bottle" not a "bottle cap", but since you brought it up, I went and got a Pepsi bottle and inverted it in my oil fill hole and guess what? Yeah, it's a perfect fit. Have a look see: http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=o08jev I then cut off all but a few inches of the bottle and drove a total of 130 miles. Not a drop of oil leaked out. Have a look. Actual photo after driving 130 miles: http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=o08k74 The inverted cap by itself is a perfect fit, I left some of the bottle on to prevent the cap from falling into the engine on the off chance that heat caused it to shrink. It didn't. In regards to Wal-Mart, I wrote "something to use for an oil cap" not a "Honda oil cap". See, that's part of your problem, a narrow mind, not able to see what's going on. For crying out loud, it's an opening that needed plugged, how hard is it? >The cardboard I had worked as good as anything > else I could have bought and wasted my money on BESIDES an actual OIL > CAP. Oh sure it did, that's why you're worried your engine is full of cardboard. A bottle is free and works great. > And I'm sure they have countless amounts of these at the factory > that aren't being used at the moment. Oh really? How many auto assembly factories have you been in? I've been in Marystown, Lordstown, Tarrytown, Baltimore truck/bus, and countless others. I've seen many caps, all attached to engines. BTW, Timmonsville SC is an assembly plant for Honda ATV's and watercraft. Let me know which one of those oil caps will fit your car. >You're a ing jerk, you know that? Your attutude and crying tell me more about you than I ever wanted to know. My advice would be to go get a Pepsi bottle and shove it up your ass! |
Re: Honda Factory BS
Hmmm, sounds like yet another guard shack genius "just following
policy". Nothing particular to Honda about that! John |
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