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bokaratom@gmail.com 05-11-2006 12:14 AM

Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
A problem with the ignition switch in Honda cars
may cause a Deadly Accident!

The car may stall without warning while driving in traffic.

This has been a known problem and has resulted in a recall by Honda
(NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 03V423000), but some cars with the ignition
switch replaced as part of the recall may still have this problem.

Is Honda trying to conceal this?
Are they in fact aware that their measures in the recall were
inadequate
to properly correct the problem?

Are they leaving peoples lives at risk in order to avoid the
expense of properly correcting the problem?


jim beam 05-11-2006 01:04 AM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
bokaratom@gmail.com wrote:
> A problem with the ignition switch in Honda cars
> may cause a Deadly Accident!
>
> The car may stall without warning while driving in traffic.
>
> This has been a known problem and has resulted in a recall by Honda
> (NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 03V423000), but some cars with the ignition
> switch replaced as part of the recall may still have this problem.
>
> Is Honda trying to conceal this?
> Are they in fact aware that their measures in the recall were
> inadequate
> to properly correct the problem?
>
> Are they leaving peoples lives at risk in order to avoid the
> expense of properly correcting the problem?
>

oh dear - the paid detroit shills are out tonight.

now, while we're talking dangerous ignition failures, how much did ford
pay to settle that class action? $200M? i forget.

jim beam 05-11-2006 01:04 AM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
bokaratom@gmail.com wrote:
> A problem with the ignition switch in Honda cars
> may cause a Deadly Accident!
>
> The car may stall without warning while driving in traffic.
>
> This has been a known problem and has resulted in a recall by Honda
> (NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 03V423000), but some cars with the ignition
> switch replaced as part of the recall may still have this problem.
>
> Is Honda trying to conceal this?
> Are they in fact aware that their measures in the recall were
> inadequate
> to properly correct the problem?
>
> Are they leaving peoples lives at risk in order to avoid the
> expense of properly correcting the problem?
>

oh dear - the paid detroit shills are out tonight.

now, while we're talking dangerous ignition failures, how much did ford
pay to settle that class action? $200M? i forget.

jim beam 05-11-2006 01:04 AM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
bokaratom@gmail.com wrote:
> A problem with the ignition switch in Honda cars
> may cause a Deadly Accident!
>
> The car may stall without warning while driving in traffic.
>
> This has been a known problem and has resulted in a recall by Honda
> (NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 03V423000), but some cars with the ignition
> switch replaced as part of the recall may still have this problem.
>
> Is Honda trying to conceal this?
> Are they in fact aware that their measures in the recall were
> inadequate
> to properly correct the problem?
>
> Are they leaving peoples lives at risk in order to avoid the
> expense of properly correcting the problem?
>

oh dear - the paid detroit shills are out tonight.

now, while we're talking dangerous ignition failures, how much did ford
pay to settle that class action? $200M? i forget.

Michael Pardee 05-11-2006 01:19 AM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
<bokaratom@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147320879.150407.236550@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>A problem with the ignition switch in Honda cars
> may cause a Deadly Accident!
>
> The car may stall without warning while driving in traffic.
>


Your hysteria is misplaced. Any car may stall without warning in traffic and
most do at some point in their existence on the road.

Trolling is not a sign of character.

Mike



Michael Pardee 05-11-2006 01:19 AM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
<bokaratom@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147320879.150407.236550@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>A problem with the ignition switch in Honda cars
> may cause a Deadly Accident!
>
> The car may stall without warning while driving in traffic.
>


Your hysteria is misplaced. Any car may stall without warning in traffic and
most do at some point in their existence on the road.

Trolling is not a sign of character.

Mike



Michael Pardee 05-11-2006 01:19 AM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
<bokaratom@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147320879.150407.236550@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>A problem with the ignition switch in Honda cars
> may cause a Deadly Accident!
>
> The car may stall without warning while driving in traffic.
>


Your hysteria is misplaced. Any car may stall without warning in traffic and
most do at some point in their existence on the road.

Trolling is not a sign of character.

Mike



Dave Kelsen 05-11-2006 07:39 AM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
On 5/11/2006 12:19 AM Michael Pardee spake these words of knowledge:

> <bokaratom@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1147320879.150407.236550@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>>A problem with the ignition switch in Honda cars
>> may cause a Deadly Accident!
>>
>> The car may stall without warning while driving in traffic.
>>

>
> Your hysteria is misplaced. Any car may stall without warning in traffic and
> most do at some point in their existence on the road.
>
> Trolling is not a sign of character.
>
> Mike


I disagree, Mike. Trolling is a sign of character. It's up to the
reader to decide *what* character, of course...


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
I do whatever my Rice Krispies tell me to do.


Dave Kelsen 05-11-2006 07:39 AM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
On 5/11/2006 12:19 AM Michael Pardee spake these words of knowledge:

> <bokaratom@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1147320879.150407.236550@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>>A problem with the ignition switch in Honda cars
>> may cause a Deadly Accident!
>>
>> The car may stall without warning while driving in traffic.
>>

>
> Your hysteria is misplaced. Any car may stall without warning in traffic and
> most do at some point in their existence on the road.
>
> Trolling is not a sign of character.
>
> Mike


I disagree, Mike. Trolling is a sign of character. It's up to the
reader to decide *what* character, of course...


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
I do whatever my Rice Krispies tell me to do.


Dave Kelsen 05-11-2006 07:39 AM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
On 5/11/2006 12:19 AM Michael Pardee spake these words of knowledge:

> <bokaratom@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1147320879.150407.236550@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>>A problem with the ignition switch in Honda cars
>> may cause a Deadly Accident!
>>
>> The car may stall without warning while driving in traffic.
>>

>
> Your hysteria is misplaced. Any car may stall without warning in traffic and
> most do at some point in their existence on the road.
>
> Trolling is not a sign of character.
>
> Mike


I disagree, Mike. Trolling is a sign of character. It's up to the
reader to decide *what* character, of course...


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
I do whatever my Rice Krispies tell me to do.


TeGGeR® 05-11-2006 05:39 PM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
news:9s2dnVfn7LFQWP_ZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> bokaratom@gmail.com wrote:


<snip>

>>
>> Are they leaving peoples lives at risk in order to avoid the
>> expense of properly correcting the problem?
>>

> oh dear - the paid detroit shills are out tonight.
>
> now, while we're talking dangerous ignition failures, how much did ford
> pay to settle that class action? $200M? i forget.




I was going to sue somebody for $200 million once, but then I discovered
that the lawyers were going to get $199,999,985.98, and I was going to get
a coupon for 50% off an oil change.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 05-11-2006 05:39 PM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
news:9s2dnVfn7LFQWP_ZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> bokaratom@gmail.com wrote:


<snip>

>>
>> Are they leaving peoples lives at risk in order to avoid the
>> expense of properly correcting the problem?
>>

> oh dear - the paid detroit shills are out tonight.
>
> now, while we're talking dangerous ignition failures, how much did ford
> pay to settle that class action? $200M? i forget.




I was going to sue somebody for $200 million once, but then I discovered
that the lawyers were going to get $199,999,985.98, and I was going to get
a coupon for 50% off an oil change.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 05-11-2006 05:39 PM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
news:9s2dnVfn7LFQWP_ZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> bokaratom@gmail.com wrote:


<snip>

>>
>> Are they leaving peoples lives at risk in order to avoid the
>> expense of properly correcting the problem?
>>

> oh dear - the paid detroit shills are out tonight.
>
> now, while we're talking dangerous ignition failures, how much did ford
> pay to settle that class action? $200M? i forget.




I was going to sue somebody for $200 million once, but then I discovered
that the lawyers were going to get $199,999,985.98, and I was going to get
a coupon for 50% off an oil change.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 05-11-2006 05:41 PM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
Dave Kelsen <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:goF8g.9095$HA2.4773@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:

..
>
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen
> --
> I do whatever my Rice Krispies tell me to do.




Up here in Canada, Rice Krispies are bilingual (by LAW!).

In English, they go snap crackle pop, like you'd expect.
In Quebec they go cric crac croc.

I you not.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 05-11-2006 05:41 PM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
Dave Kelsen <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:goF8g.9095$HA2.4773@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:

..
>
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen
> --
> I do whatever my Rice Krispies tell me to do.




Up here in Canada, Rice Krispies are bilingual (by LAW!).

In English, they go snap crackle pop, like you'd expect.
In Quebec they go cric crac croc.

I you not.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 05-11-2006 05:41 PM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
Dave Kelsen <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:goF8g.9095$HA2.4773@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:

..
>
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen
> --
> I do whatever my Rice Krispies tell me to do.




Up here in Canada, Rice Krispies are bilingual (by LAW!).

In English, they go snap crackle pop, like you'd expect.
In Quebec they go cric crac croc.

I you not.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Michael Pardee 05-11-2006 07:53 PM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns97C0B3AA4F731tegger@207.14.113.17...
> I was going to sue somebody for $200 million once, but then I discovered
> that the lawyers were going to get $199,999,985.98, and I was going to get
> a coupon for 50% off an oil change.
>

....and that was at Jiffy Lube.



Michael Pardee 05-11-2006 07:53 PM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns97C0B3AA4F731tegger@207.14.113.17...
> I was going to sue somebody for $200 million once, but then I discovered
> that the lawyers were going to get $199,999,985.98, and I was going to get
> a coupon for 50% off an oil change.
>

....and that was at Jiffy Lube.



Michael Pardee 05-11-2006 07:53 PM

Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents
 
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns97C0B3AA4F731tegger@207.14.113.17...
> I was going to sue somebody for $200 million once, but then I discovered
> that the lawyers were going to get $199,999,985.98, and I was going to get
> a coupon for 50% off an oil change.
>

....and that was at Jiffy Lube.



TE Cheah 05-12-2006 01:16 AM

true ( Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents )
 
All the salesmen here curse & deny this flaw, salesmen always do
whenever a flaw is exposed ; their bread & butter is jeopardised.

| The car may stall without warning while driving in traffic.
Yes, my '90 Accord ( Japan made )'s ignition switch failed after just
68,800 km use, in 10-03. This switch ( part # 35130-SM4-305 )
suddenly could not feed a current to engine ( F20A )'s distributor, so
this accord was stuck in a slow moving traffic, causing obstruction to
traffic.
If your car uses this switch ( fitted below key slot, K69-1 embossed
on its black plastic casing's bottom), & switch is not new, better let
your car carry a 3 amp wire ( insulated, 18" long ) with a clip* @ 1
end to grip your battery's +ve terminal, & the other end ( bare ) to slip
into your distributor's +ve input terminal ( a wire with a black rubber
insulation, on a F20A ) to ( if necessary ) feed a 12v current to
distributor, so your engine ( after cranking ) can run like normal until
you can replace this un-durable switch. This clip* will enable easy dis
/ re connection to turn off / on engine.
I never knew any ignition switch can fail @ just 68,800 km : the
interior of this failed switch has no crack / dirt / dust inside ! Worse
is the new switch fitted is not perfect either : when idle, it leaks 50-
75 mv to windows' motor's relay, & helps to drain battery.



TE Cheah 05-12-2006 01:16 AM

true ( Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents )
 
All the salesmen here curse & deny this flaw, salesmen always do
whenever a flaw is exposed ; their bread & butter is jeopardised.

| The car may stall without warning while driving in traffic.
Yes, my '90 Accord ( Japan made )'s ignition switch failed after just
68,800 km use, in 10-03. This switch ( part # 35130-SM4-305 )
suddenly could not feed a current to engine ( F20A )'s distributor, so
this accord was stuck in a slow moving traffic, causing obstruction to
traffic.
If your car uses this switch ( fitted below key slot, K69-1 embossed
on its black plastic casing's bottom), & switch is not new, better let
your car carry a 3 amp wire ( insulated, 18" long ) with a clip* @ 1
end to grip your battery's +ve terminal, & the other end ( bare ) to slip
into your distributor's +ve input terminal ( a wire with a black rubber
insulation, on a F20A ) to ( if necessary ) feed a 12v current to
distributor, so your engine ( after cranking ) can run like normal until
you can replace this un-durable switch. This clip* will enable easy dis
/ re connection to turn off / on engine.
I never knew any ignition switch can fail @ just 68,800 km : the
interior of this failed switch has no crack / dirt / dust inside ! Worse
is the new switch fitted is not perfect either : when idle, it leaks 50-
75 mv to windows' motor's relay, & helps to drain battery.



TE Cheah 05-12-2006 01:16 AM

true ( Re: Honda Ignition Switch Defect may cause Deadly Accidents )
 
All the salesmen here curse & deny this flaw, salesmen always do
whenever a flaw is exposed ; their bread & butter is jeopardised.

| The car may stall without warning while driving in traffic.
Yes, my '90 Accord ( Japan made )'s ignition switch failed after just
68,800 km use, in 10-03. This switch ( part # 35130-SM4-305 )
suddenly could not feed a current to engine ( F20A )'s distributor, so
this accord was stuck in a slow moving traffic, causing obstruction to
traffic.
If your car uses this switch ( fitted below key slot, K69-1 embossed
on its black plastic casing's bottom), & switch is not new, better let
your car carry a 3 amp wire ( insulated, 18" long ) with a clip* @ 1
end to grip your battery's +ve terminal, & the other end ( bare ) to slip
into your distributor's +ve input terminal ( a wire with a black rubber
insulation, on a F20A ) to ( if necessary ) feed a 12v current to
distributor, so your engine ( after cranking ) can run like normal until
you can replace this un-durable switch. This clip* will enable easy dis
/ re connection to turn off / on engine.
I never knew any ignition switch can fail @ just 68,800 km : the
interior of this failed switch has no crack / dirt / dust inside ! Worse
is the new switch fitted is not perfect either : when idle, it leaks 50-
75 mv to windows' motor's relay, & helps to drain battery.




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