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Tacy 02-23-2004 08:32 PM

Re: Honda for a Student in Snowy Conditions
 
Fergie wrote:

> I have a 95 Civic 4dr which has been great on ice, slush and in snow;
> the only winter drawback has been the noise from the 4 studded snow
> tires :)


Do you ever have to stop on hills? I live in a region with many soft
hills and I see some vehicles spin their tyres on slopes. Does pressure
applied to the pedal have a lot more impact in icy conditions or is it
the weight of the car or tyre condition?

--
-- Tacy


Sean D 02-23-2004 10:11 PM

Re: Honda for a Student in Snowy Conditions
 

"Tacy" <tacyhunter@dontspamthesofthome.net> wrote in message
news:nQx_b.63$Pc.35@okepread02...
> Fergie wrote:
>
> > I have a 95 Civic 4dr which has been great on ice, slush and in snow;
> > the only winter drawback has been the noise from the 4 studded snow
> > tires :)

>
> Do you ever have to stop on hills? I live in a region with many soft
> hills and I see some vehicles spin their tyres on slopes. Does pressure
> applied to the pedal have a lot more impact in icy conditions or is it
> the weight of the car or tyre condition?
>
> --
> -- Tacy
>


You have to keep in mind that there are a lot of morons on the road and more
often than not, when you see someone spinning their tires, it's because
they're using worn all-seasons. Get a good set of winter tires on all 4
tires and you'll be fine.



Sean D 02-23-2004 10:11 PM

Re: Honda for a Student in Snowy Conditions
 

"Tacy" <tacyhunter@dontspamthesofthome.net> wrote in message
news:nQx_b.63$Pc.35@okepread02...
> Fergie wrote:
>
> > I have a 95 Civic 4dr which has been great on ice, slush and in snow;
> > the only winter drawback has been the noise from the 4 studded snow
> > tires :)

>
> Do you ever have to stop on hills? I live in a region with many soft
> hills and I see some vehicles spin their tyres on slopes. Does pressure
> applied to the pedal have a lot more impact in icy conditions or is it
> the weight of the car or tyre condition?
>
> --
> -- Tacy
>


You have to keep in mind that there are a lot of morons on the road and more
often than not, when you see someone spinning their tires, it's because
they're using worn all-seasons. Get a good set of winter tires on all 4
tires and you'll be fine.



Sean D 02-23-2004 10:11 PM

Re: Honda for a Student in Snowy Conditions
 

"Tacy" <tacyhunter@dontspamthesofthome.net> wrote in message
news:nQx_b.63$Pc.35@okepread02...
> Fergie wrote:
>
> > I have a 95 Civic 4dr which has been great on ice, slush and in snow;
> > the only winter drawback has been the noise from the 4 studded snow
> > tires :)

>
> Do you ever have to stop on hills? I live in a region with many soft
> hills and I see some vehicles spin their tyres on slopes. Does pressure
> applied to the pedal have a lot more impact in icy conditions or is it
> the weight of the car or tyre condition?
>
> --
> -- Tacy
>


You have to keep in mind that there are a lot of morons on the road and more
often than not, when you see someone spinning their tires, it's because
they're using worn all-seasons. Get a good set of winter tires on all 4
tires and you'll be fine.



Sean D 02-23-2004 10:13 PM

Re: Honda for a Student in Snowy Conditions
 

"Tacy" <tacyhunter@dontspamthesofthome.net> wrote in message
news:HKx_b.60$Pc.1@okepread02...
> T. Nelson wrote:
>
> > Tacy,
> > Don't believe everything you hear or read. I believe that a 4 wheel

drive
> > vehicle such as a Honda CV-V or Pilot will run better on snow or ice
> > covered roads than a vehicle that has two wheel drive. Of course, I also
> > agree that special tires like the other posters recommended will also

help
> > regardless of whether you have two wheel or four wheel drive. Chains

also
> > help.

>
> I checked some local listings and it seems like CR-Vs are quite
> affordable but not at all common. Are all of them 4 wheel drive? Are
> there any certain things I should look for in a used CR-V?
>
> --
> -- Tacy
>


CR-Vs are actually 2 wheel drive with a real-time 4 wheel drive system.
This means that most of the time, it's in 2 wheel drive mode (front wheel
drive actually) but it will seemlessly switch to 4 wheel drive if the front
tires slip. Once the front tires grip again, then it's back to 2 wheel
drive. This system is meant to give the best of both worlds. The traction
of 4 wheel drive when you need it, and the fuel economy of 2 wheel drive
when 4 wheel isn't needed.



Sean D 02-23-2004 10:13 PM

Re: Honda for a Student in Snowy Conditions
 

"Tacy" <tacyhunter@dontspamthesofthome.net> wrote in message
news:HKx_b.60$Pc.1@okepread02...
> T. Nelson wrote:
>
> > Tacy,
> > Don't believe everything you hear or read. I believe that a 4 wheel

drive
> > vehicle such as a Honda CV-V or Pilot will run better on snow or ice
> > covered roads than a vehicle that has two wheel drive. Of course, I also
> > agree that special tires like the other posters recommended will also

help
> > regardless of whether you have two wheel or four wheel drive. Chains

also
> > help.

>
> I checked some local listings and it seems like CR-Vs are quite
> affordable but not at all common. Are all of them 4 wheel drive? Are
> there any certain things I should look for in a used CR-V?
>
> --
> -- Tacy
>


CR-Vs are actually 2 wheel drive with a real-time 4 wheel drive system.
This means that most of the time, it's in 2 wheel drive mode (front wheel
drive actually) but it will seemlessly switch to 4 wheel drive if the front
tires slip. Once the front tires grip again, then it's back to 2 wheel
drive. This system is meant to give the best of both worlds. The traction
of 4 wheel drive when you need it, and the fuel economy of 2 wheel drive
when 4 wheel isn't needed.



Sean D 02-23-2004 10:13 PM

Re: Honda for a Student in Snowy Conditions
 

"Tacy" <tacyhunter@dontspamthesofthome.net> wrote in message
news:HKx_b.60$Pc.1@okepread02...
> T. Nelson wrote:
>
> > Tacy,
> > Don't believe everything you hear or read. I believe that a 4 wheel

drive
> > vehicle such as a Honda CV-V or Pilot will run better on snow or ice
> > covered roads than a vehicle that has two wheel drive. Of course, I also
> > agree that special tires like the other posters recommended will also

help
> > regardless of whether you have two wheel or four wheel drive. Chains

also
> > help.

>
> I checked some local listings and it seems like CR-Vs are quite
> affordable but not at all common. Are all of them 4 wheel drive? Are
> there any certain things I should look for in a used CR-V?
>
> --
> -- Tacy
>


CR-Vs are actually 2 wheel drive with a real-time 4 wheel drive system.
This means that most of the time, it's in 2 wheel drive mode (front wheel
drive actually) but it will seemlessly switch to 4 wheel drive if the front
tires slip. Once the front tires grip again, then it's back to 2 wheel
drive. This system is meant to give the best of both worlds. The traction
of 4 wheel drive when you need it, and the fuel economy of 2 wheel drive
when 4 wheel isn't needed.



Tacy 02-24-2004 10:28 AM

Re: Honda for a Student in Snowy Conditions
 
Sean D wrote:

> You have to keep in mind that there are a lot of morons on the road and more
> often than not, when you see someone spinning their tires, it's because
> they're using worn all-seasons. Get a good set of winter tires on all 4
> tires and you'll be fine.


How many kilometres or miles could I expect from a set of winter tyres?
What sort of wheels would I want for the winter?

--
-- Tacy


Tacy 02-24-2004 10:28 AM

Re: Honda for a Student in Snowy Conditions
 
Sean D wrote:

> You have to keep in mind that there are a lot of morons on the road and more
> often than not, when you see someone spinning their tires, it's because
> they're using worn all-seasons. Get a good set of winter tires on all 4
> tires and you'll be fine.


How many kilometres or miles could I expect from a set of winter tyres?
What sort of wheels would I want for the winter?

--
-- Tacy


Tacy 02-24-2004 10:28 AM

Re: Honda for a Student in Snowy Conditions
 
Sean D wrote:

> You have to keep in mind that there are a lot of morons on the road and more
> often than not, when you see someone spinning their tires, it's because
> they're using worn all-seasons. Get a good set of winter tires on all 4
> tires and you'll be fine.


How many kilometres or miles could I expect from a set of winter tyres?
What sort of wheels would I want for the winter?

--
-- Tacy


Tacy 02-24-2004 10:31 AM

Re: Honda for a Student in Snowy Conditions
 
Sean D wrote:

> CR-Vs are actually 2 wheel drive with a real-time 4 wheel drive system.
> This means that most of the time, it's in 2 wheel drive mode (front wheel
> drive actually) but it will seemlessly switch to 4 wheel drive if the front
> tires slip. Once the front tires grip again, then it's back to 2 wheel
> drive. This system is meant to give the best of both worlds. The traction
> of 4 wheel drive when you need it, and the fuel economy of 2 wheel drive
> when 4 wheel isn't needed.


Some people tell me that the CR-V is a Civic frame (pardon my
terminology if I'm incorrect) with a truck body on top, so it drives a
lot like a car. Is this true?

--
-- Tacy


Tacy 02-24-2004 10:31 AM

Re: Honda for a Student in Snowy Conditions
 
Sean D wrote:

> CR-Vs are actually 2 wheel drive with a real-time 4 wheel drive system.
> This means that most of the time, it's in 2 wheel drive mode (front wheel
> drive actually) but it will seemlessly switch to 4 wheel drive if the front
> tires slip. Once the front tires grip again, then it's back to 2 wheel
> drive. This system is meant to give the best of both worlds. The traction
> of 4 wheel drive when you need it, and the fuel economy of 2 wheel drive
> when 4 wheel isn't needed.


Some people tell me that the CR-V is a Civic frame (pardon my
terminology if I'm incorrect) with a truck body on top, so it drives a
lot like a car. Is this true?

--
-- Tacy


Tacy 02-24-2004 10:31 AM

Re: Honda for a Student in Snowy Conditions
 
Sean D wrote:

> CR-Vs are actually 2 wheel drive with a real-time 4 wheel drive system.
> This means that most of the time, it's in 2 wheel drive mode (front wheel
> drive actually) but it will seemlessly switch to 4 wheel drive if the front
> tires slip. Once the front tires grip again, then it's back to 2 wheel
> drive. This system is meant to give the best of both worlds. The traction
> of 4 wheel drive when you need it, and the fuel economy of 2 wheel drive
> when 4 wheel isn't needed.


Some people tell me that the CR-V is a Civic frame (pardon my
terminology if I'm incorrect) with a truck body on top, so it drives a
lot like a car. Is this true?

--
-- Tacy


Sean D 02-24-2004 11:20 AM

Re: Honda for a Student in Snowy Conditions
 

"Tacy" <tacyhunter@dontspamthesofthome.net> wrote in message
news:R4K_b.339$Pc.60@okepread02...
> Sean D wrote:
>
> > You have to keep in mind that there are a lot of morons on the road and

more
> > often than not, when you see someone spinning their tires, it's because
> > they're using worn all-seasons. Get a good set of winter tires on all 4
> > tires and you'll be fine.

>
> How many kilometres or miles could I expect from a set of winter tyres?
> What sort of wheels would I want for the winter?
>
> --
> -- Tacy
>


Well winter tires are much softer than normal all-seasons so they don't last
as long. I had a set of Michelin Artic Alpins that lasted 3 winters or
about 40,000 km, give or take. I assume you when you ask about wheels, you
mean rims. This is only a concern if you have alloy rims, since salt with
corrode them and they are very expensive. If you're just running the
regular steel rims, then you can choose to reuse the same rims and pay to
have the tires mounted and balanced at each change (about $10 each) or you
could spring to buy 4 new steel rims to make the swap easier and a bit
cheaper. Personally, I stick with one set of rims and pay to have the tires
mounted and rebalanced. Basically, considering the cost of the steel rims,
it would take over 5 years for them to pay for themselves so to me, it's not
worth it.



Sean D 02-24-2004 11:20 AM

Re: Honda for a Student in Snowy Conditions
 

"Tacy" <tacyhunter@dontspamthesofthome.net> wrote in message
news:R4K_b.339$Pc.60@okepread02...
> Sean D wrote:
>
> > You have to keep in mind that there are a lot of morons on the road and

more
> > often than not, when you see someone spinning their tires, it's because
> > they're using worn all-seasons. Get a good set of winter tires on all 4
> > tires and you'll be fine.

>
> How many kilometres or miles could I expect from a set of winter tyres?
> What sort of wheels would I want for the winter?
>
> --
> -- Tacy
>


Well winter tires are much softer than normal all-seasons so they don't last
as long. I had a set of Michelin Artic Alpins that lasted 3 winters or
about 40,000 km, give or take. I assume you when you ask about wheels, you
mean rims. This is only a concern if you have alloy rims, since salt with
corrode them and they are very expensive. If you're just running the
regular steel rims, then you can choose to reuse the same rims and pay to
have the tires mounted and balanced at each change (about $10 each) or you
could spring to buy 4 new steel rims to make the swap easier and a bit
cheaper. Personally, I stick with one set of rims and pay to have the tires
mounted and rebalanced. Basically, considering the cost of the steel rims,
it would take over 5 years for them to pay for themselves so to me, it's not
worth it.




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