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jim beam 05-11-2009 08:47 AM

Re: How to check out older car? Which car to keep?
 
Dave D wrote:
> "jim beam" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:TsGdnYlogIdGaZvXnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>> You folks must be keeping those half-million mile Hondas a Big Secret,
>>> huh? I mean the ones with no rebuilds, still running the original
>>> accessory drives.
>>>
>>> Ah, usenet...

>> no guy, you're the one that choosing to remain ignorant. a high mileage
>> honda is no big deal - in fact, it's routine. and replacing an alternator
>> every 150k miles is no big deal either. although i have to confess why
>> that's a judgment criteria for a honda but not detroit garbage that
>> doesn't last even half as long is where you're losing me.

>
> No, he isn't losing you. You were lost a long time ago. You conveniently
> choose to ignore what you don't want to see and cling to that which you do
> want to see. Day after day after day in this very newsgroup I see post after
> post after post detailing Honda problems. Main relays, timing belts, oil
> pumps, cv axles, and these are in Hondas that do NOT have millions of miles
> on them. While Honda builds a very fine automobile and they are above
> average in most areas - they are NOT the super cars you try to make them out
> to be. They have their problem, multitudinous in nature judging from what I
> read here. So pull your head out and stop trying to aggrandize Honda and
> depreciate all others. It just makes you sound stupid.
>
> DaveD
>
>


so, let's hear your analysis of comparable chevy, ford and chrysler
vehicles, their componentry and longevity. thanks.

Dave D 05-12-2009 02:18 AM

Re: How to check out older car? Which car to keep?
 

"jim beam" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:VPidnZAa2efQg5XXnZ2dnUVZ_uJi4p2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Dave D wrote:
>> "jim beam" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:TsGdnYlogIdGaZvXnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>>> You folks must be keeping those half-million mile Hondas a Big
>>>> Secret, huh? I mean the ones with no rebuilds, still running the
>>>> original accessory drives.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, usenet...
>>> no guy, you're the one that choosing to remain ignorant. a high mileage
>>> honda is no big deal - in fact, it's routine. and replacing an
>>> alternator every 150k miles is no big deal either. although i have to
>>> confess why that's a judgment criteria for a honda but not detroit
>>> garbage that doesn't last even half as long is where you're losing me.

>>
>> No, he isn't losing you. You were lost a long time ago. You conveniently
>> choose to ignore what you don't want to see and cling to that which you
>> do want to see. Day after day after day in this very newsgroup I see post
>> after post after post detailing Honda problems. Main relays, timing
>> belts, oil pumps, cv axles, and these are in Hondas that do NOT have
>> millions of miles on them. While Honda builds a very fine automobile and
>> they are above average in most areas - they are NOT the super cars you
>> try to make them out to be. They have their problem, multitudinous in
>> nature judging from what I read here. So pull your head out and stop
>> trying to aggrandize Honda and depreciate all others. It just makes you
>> sound stupid.
>>
>> DaveD
>>
>>

>
> so, let's hear your analysis of comparable chevy, ford and chrysler
> vehicles, their componentry and longevity. thanks.

Ok you asked for it...I have and 82 F250 300I6 with 180,000. Had to rebuild
the carb, finis. 94 F250 7.3L 165,000 miles. Had to replace injectors... 79
IH Scout II 195,000miles. pinion seal. Just what I have now without delving
too deep into my long term memory. I will mention that my 83 Civic had about
150k on it when it threw a rod. Not the car's fault, the driver was
negligent about the oil level. It went through two teen age boys also. 85
Honda Civic 105k and had to replace the motor. Although, I have serious
doubts as to the validity of the diagnosis that resulted in the engine swap.
All verhicles, Hondas included, have had wheel seals, axle seals, cv joints
replaced several times. Just one of the benefits of having a car/truck in
Alaska...

DaveD



jim beam 05-12-2009 11:31 PM

Re: How to check out older car? Which car to keep?
 
Dave D wrote:
> "jim beam" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:VPidnZAa2efQg5XXnZ2dnUVZ_uJi4p2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Dave D wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:TsGdnYlogIdGaZvXnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>>>> You folks must be keeping those half-million mile Hondas a Big
>>>>> Secret, huh? I mean the ones with no rebuilds, still running the
>>>>> original accessory drives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, usenet...
>>>> no guy, you're the one that choosing to remain ignorant. a high mileage
>>>> honda is no big deal - in fact, it's routine. and replacing an
>>>> alternator every 150k miles is no big deal either. although i have to
>>>> confess why that's a judgment criteria for a honda but not detroit
>>>> garbage that doesn't last even half as long is where you're losing me.
>>> No, he isn't losing you. You were lost a long time ago. You conveniently
>>> choose to ignore what you don't want to see and cling to that which you
>>> do want to see. Day after day after day in this very newsgroup I see post
>>> after post after post detailing Honda problems. Main relays, timing
>>> belts, oil pumps, cv axles, and these are in Hondas that do NOT have
>>> millions of miles on them. While Honda builds a very fine automobile and
>>> they are above average in most areas - they are NOT the super cars you
>>> try to make them out to be. They have their problem, multitudinous in
>>> nature judging from what I read here. So pull your head out and stop
>>> trying to aggrandize Honda and depreciate all others. It just makes you
>>> sound stupid.
>>>
>>> DaveD
>>>
>>>

>> so, let's hear your analysis of comparable chevy, ford and chrysler
>> vehicles, their componentry and longevity. thanks.

> Ok you asked for it...I have and 82 F250 300I6 with 180,000. Had to rebuild
> the carb, finis. 94 F250 7.3L 165,000 miles. Had to replace injectors... 79
> IH Scout II 195,000miles. pinion seal. Just what I have now without delving
> too deep into my long term memory.


selective memory! love it. i "remember" my first car. million miles,
original engine, the gas tank filled up every 30 miles with 150 octane
and i sold it to the local hot rodders.


> I will mention that my 83 Civic had about
> 150k on it when it threw a rod. Not the car's fault, the driver was
> negligent about the oil level. It went through two teen age boys also. 85
> Honda Civic 105k and had to replace the motor. Although, I have serious
> doubts as to the validity of the diagnosis that resulted in the engine swap.


yeah, inability to run with oil means the car was real crap and that
qualifies you to criticize all hondas forever.


> All verhicles, Hondas included, have had wheel seals, axle seals, cv joints
> replaced several times. Just one of the benefits of having a car/truck in
> Alaska...


wow, pretzel logic - how convincing!

Dave D 05-13-2009 03:07 AM

Re: How to check out older car? Which car to keep?
 

"jim beam" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:18WdnaXvfZKMopfXnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Dave D wrote:
>>> so, let's hear your analysis of comparable chevy, ford and chrysler
>>> vehicles, their componentry and longevity. thanks.

>> Ok you asked for it...I have and 82 F250 300I6 with 180,000. Had to
>> rebuild the carb, finis. 94 F250 7.3L 165,000 miles. Had to replace
>> injectors... 79 IH Scout II 195,000miles. pinion seal. Just what I have
>> now without delving too deep into my long term memory.

>
> selective memory! love it. i "remember" my first car. million miles,
> original engine, the gas tank filled up every 30 miles with 150 octane and
> i sold it to the local hot rodders.

As usual - you jump to a conclusion based on absolutely nothing. YOUR memory
may be selective but I still own and drive the above mentioned vehicles. So
don't tell me about selective memory when you know not about which you
speak.
>
>
>> I will mention that my 83 Civic had about 150k on it when it threw a rod.
>> Not the car's fault, the driver was negligent about the oil level. It
>> went through two teen age boys also. 85 Honda Civic 105k and had to
>> replace the motor. Although, I have serious doubts as to the validity of
>> the diagnosis that resulted in the engine swap.

>
> yeah, inability to run with oil means the car was real crap and that
> qualifies you to criticize all hondas forever.

Once again you leap to a conclusion, read only the parts of my post that
suits you and reply with an assinine statement. I did not say that Hondas
were crap, as a matter of fact I stated that they were above average
vehicles but not the "supercars" you constantly try to prove. Whom are you
trying to convince? Yourself perhaps.
>
>
>> All verhicles, Hondas included, have had wheel seals, axle seals, cv
>> joints replaced several times. Just one of the benefits of having a
>> car/truck in Alaska...

>
> wow, pretzel logic - how convincing!

Now this is a very intelligent, thoughtful statement. It shows me exactly
how deep your thought processes run and the level at which you think.

DaveD



Clive 05-13-2009 02:00 PM

Re: How to check out older car? Which car to keep?
 
In message <18WdnaXvfZKMopfXnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@speakeasy.net> , jim beam
<me@privacy.net> writes
>>>> No, he isn't losing you. You were lost a long time ago. You
>>>>conveniently choose to ignore what you don't want to see and cling
>>>>to that which you do want to see. Day after day after day in this
>>>>very newsgroup I see post after post after post detailing Honda
>>>>problems. Main relays, timing belts, oil pumps, cv axles, and these
>>>>are in Hondas that do NOT have millions of miles on them. While
>>>>Honda builds a very fine automobile and they are above average in
>>>>most areas - they are NOT the super cars you try to make them out
>>>>to be. They have their problem, multitudinous in nature judging
>>>>from what I read here. So pull your head out and stop trying to
>>>>aggrandize Honda and depreciate all others. It just makes you sound stupid.

In the UK, we have a consumer magazine that is advert and bias free, it
makes clear that the most reliable cars are Honda, followed very closely
by Toyota. Merkin cars are at the bottom of the list.
--
Clive


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