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Jim Yanik 01-29-2007 08:33 PM

Re: How do I get these #%$&! stickers off my new Civic window visors??
 
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
news:U8mdnTNauPpCCSPYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@sedona.net:

> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
> news:Xns98C76C7B0F6FFjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86...
>> Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in news:45BDC781.B10B2AAD@spam.now:
>>
>>>
>>> I've never tried it, but you might want to consider using some type
>>> of solvent to loosen up the adhesive. I would start with LPS brand
>>> contact cleaner. It's a little expensive but it "shouldn't damage"
>>> most plastic.

>>
>> I think I'd begin with GooGone or similar product before LPS.
>> LPS,I believe,is NOT a "contact cleaner".
>>

>
> LPS makes both a contact cleaner that is styrene safe and a lubricant
> known as "LPS 2." The contact cleaner has a light aroma and evaporates
> completely.
>
> Mike
>
>
>


this the stuff you mean?
http://www.lpslabs.com/products/msds/10416.pdf

I wouldn't be using it inside MY car.
I also don't believe it's going to unstick his sticker.

http://www.lpslabs.com/Products/Lubricants/Lps2.asp

this is NOT a contact cleaner either.

LPS =Light Petroleum Solvent,IIRC (or maybe Light Penetrating Solvent)


Home Page;
http://www.lpslabs.com/products.asp.



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 01-29-2007 08:33 PM

Re: How do I get these #%$&! stickers off my new Civic window visors??
 
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
news:U8mdnTNauPpCCSPYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@sedona.net:

> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
> news:Xns98C76C7B0F6FFjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86...
>> Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in news:45BDC781.B10B2AAD@spam.now:
>>
>>>
>>> I've never tried it, but you might want to consider using some type
>>> of solvent to loosen up the adhesive. I would start with LPS brand
>>> contact cleaner. It's a little expensive but it "shouldn't damage"
>>> most plastic.

>>
>> I think I'd begin with GooGone or similar product before LPS.
>> LPS,I believe,is NOT a "contact cleaner".
>>

>
> LPS makes both a contact cleaner that is styrene safe and a lubricant
> known as "LPS 2." The contact cleaner has a light aroma and evaporates
> completely.
>
> Mike
>
>
>


this the stuff you mean?
http://www.lpslabs.com/products/msds/10416.pdf

I wouldn't be using it inside MY car.
I also don't believe it's going to unstick his sticker.

http://www.lpslabs.com/Products/Lubricants/Lps2.asp

this is NOT a contact cleaner either.

LPS =Light Petroleum Solvent,IIRC (or maybe Light Penetrating Solvent)


Home Page;
http://www.lpslabs.com/products.asp.



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 01-29-2007 08:33 PM

Re: How do I get these #%$&! stickers off my new Civic window visors??
 
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
news:U8mdnTNauPpCCSPYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@sedona.net:

> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
> news:Xns98C76C7B0F6FFjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86...
>> Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in news:45BDC781.B10B2AAD@spam.now:
>>
>>>
>>> I've never tried it, but you might want to consider using some type
>>> of solvent to loosen up the adhesive. I would start with LPS brand
>>> contact cleaner. It's a little expensive but it "shouldn't damage"
>>> most plastic.

>>
>> I think I'd begin with GooGone or similar product before LPS.
>> LPS,I believe,is NOT a "contact cleaner".
>>

>
> LPS makes both a contact cleaner that is styrene safe and a lubricant
> known as "LPS 2." The contact cleaner has a light aroma and evaporates
> completely.
>
> Mike
>
>
>


this the stuff you mean?
http://www.lpslabs.com/products/msds/10416.pdf

I wouldn't be using it inside MY car.
I also don't believe it's going to unstick his sticker.

http://www.lpslabs.com/Products/Lubricants/Lps2.asp

this is NOT a contact cleaner either.

LPS =Light Petroleum Solvent,IIRC (or maybe Light Penetrating Solvent)


Home Page;
http://www.lpslabs.com/products.asp.



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 01-29-2007 08:33 PM

Re: How do I get these #%$&! stickers off my new Civic window visors??
 
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
news:U8mdnTNauPpCCSPYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@sedona.net:

> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
> news:Xns98C76C7B0F6FFjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86...
>> Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in news:45BDC781.B10B2AAD@spam.now:
>>
>>>
>>> I've never tried it, but you might want to consider using some type
>>> of solvent to loosen up the adhesive. I would start with LPS brand
>>> contact cleaner. It's a little expensive but it "shouldn't damage"
>>> most plastic.

>>
>> I think I'd begin with GooGone or similar product before LPS.
>> LPS,I believe,is NOT a "contact cleaner".
>>

>
> LPS makes both a contact cleaner that is styrene safe and a lubricant
> known as "LPS 2." The contact cleaner has a light aroma and evaporates
> completely.
>
> Mike
>
>
>


this the stuff you mean?
http://www.lpslabs.com/products/msds/10416.pdf

I wouldn't be using it inside MY car.
I also don't believe it's going to unstick his sticker.

http://www.lpslabs.com/Products/Lubricants/Lps2.asp

this is NOT a contact cleaner either.

LPS =Light Petroleum Solvent,IIRC (or maybe Light Penetrating Solvent)


Home Page;
http://www.lpslabs.com/products.asp.



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 01-29-2007 08:37 PM

Re: How do I get these #%$&! stickers off my new Civic window visors??
 
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns98C7C8AE9D7F7tegger@207.14.116.130:

> "D.K." <pdsnickles@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1170106439.451885.262430@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com:
>
>> I am not buying new visors at dealer prices! This is ridiculous! I'm
>> going to complain to Honda about this. I mean, the stickers are
>> really big and bright and obnoxious! I understand they want people
>> not to put kids in the front seat, but really, people are going to do
>> what they want regardless of the sticker. The stickers should be
>> removable!

>
>
>
> The reason they are not removable is...liability exposure.
>
> It's screwy. First the automakers are compelled by legislation and
> regulation into installing airbags, and then they are left open to
> litigation when those airbags kill and maim people.
>
> You will not be allowed to buy sun visors without stickers. The only
> thing I can suggest is to buy labels to stick over the stickers.
>
> But if you do that and later on somebody gets hurt in some manner
> warned about on the stickers, I certainly hope you won't plan on suing
> Honda because they made the stickers too easy to cover up.
>
>


He could always take them to a local automotive upholstery shop and have
them recovered.
Maybe even DIY,if he cares enough to tackle the job.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 01-29-2007 08:37 PM

Re: How do I get these #%$&! stickers off my new Civic window visors??
 
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns98C7C8AE9D7F7tegger@207.14.116.130:

> "D.K." <pdsnickles@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1170106439.451885.262430@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com:
>
>> I am not buying new visors at dealer prices! This is ridiculous! I'm
>> going to complain to Honda about this. I mean, the stickers are
>> really big and bright and obnoxious! I understand they want people
>> not to put kids in the front seat, but really, people are going to do
>> what they want regardless of the sticker. The stickers should be
>> removable!

>
>
>
> The reason they are not removable is...liability exposure.
>
> It's screwy. First the automakers are compelled by legislation and
> regulation into installing airbags, and then they are left open to
> litigation when those airbags kill and maim people.
>
> You will not be allowed to buy sun visors without stickers. The only
> thing I can suggest is to buy labels to stick over the stickers.
>
> But if you do that and later on somebody gets hurt in some manner
> warned about on the stickers, I certainly hope you won't plan on suing
> Honda because they made the stickers too easy to cover up.
>
>


He could always take them to a local automotive upholstery shop and have
them recovered.
Maybe even DIY,if he cares enough to tackle the job.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 01-29-2007 08:37 PM

Re: How do I get these #%$&! stickers off my new Civic window visors??
 
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns98C7C8AE9D7F7tegger@207.14.116.130:

> "D.K." <pdsnickles@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1170106439.451885.262430@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com:
>
>> I am not buying new visors at dealer prices! This is ridiculous! I'm
>> going to complain to Honda about this. I mean, the stickers are
>> really big and bright and obnoxious! I understand they want people
>> not to put kids in the front seat, but really, people are going to do
>> what they want regardless of the sticker. The stickers should be
>> removable!

>
>
>
> The reason they are not removable is...liability exposure.
>
> It's screwy. First the automakers are compelled by legislation and
> regulation into installing airbags, and then they are left open to
> litigation when those airbags kill and maim people.
>
> You will not be allowed to buy sun visors without stickers. The only
> thing I can suggest is to buy labels to stick over the stickers.
>
> But if you do that and later on somebody gets hurt in some manner
> warned about on the stickers, I certainly hope you won't plan on suing
> Honda because they made the stickers too easy to cover up.
>
>


He could always take them to a local automotive upholstery shop and have
them recovered.
Maybe even DIY,if he cares enough to tackle the job.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 01-29-2007 08:37 PM

Re: How do I get these #%$&! stickers off my new Civic window visors??
 
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns98C7C8AE9D7F7tegger@207.14.116.130:

> "D.K." <pdsnickles@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1170106439.451885.262430@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com:
>
>> I am not buying new visors at dealer prices! This is ridiculous! I'm
>> going to complain to Honda about this. I mean, the stickers are
>> really big and bright and obnoxious! I understand they want people
>> not to put kids in the front seat, but really, people are going to do
>> what they want regardless of the sticker. The stickers should be
>> removable!

>
>
>
> The reason they are not removable is...liability exposure.
>
> It's screwy. First the automakers are compelled by legislation and
> regulation into installing airbags, and then they are left open to
> litigation when those airbags kill and maim people.
>
> You will not be allowed to buy sun visors without stickers. The only
> thing I can suggest is to buy labels to stick over the stickers.
>
> But if you do that and later on somebody gets hurt in some manner
> warned about on the stickers, I certainly hope you won't plan on suing
> Honda because they made the stickers too easy to cover up.
>
>


He could always take them to a local automotive upholstery shop and have
them recovered.
Maybe even DIY,if he cares enough to tackle the job.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Unquestionably Confused 01-29-2007 11:12 PM

Re: How do I get these #%$&! stickers off my new Civic window visors??
 
D.K. wrote:
> I am not buying new visors at dealer prices! This is ridiculous! I'm
> going to complain to Honda about this. I mean, the stickers are really
> big and bright and obnoxious! I understand they want people not to put
> kids in the front seat, but really, people are going to do what they
> want regardless of the sticker. The stickers should be removable!

[snip]
> If I don't hear from anyone who's done it, I'm writing the VP in
> charge of Customer Relations for Honda and asking him for new visors
> without the damned stickers!


Why not write your Congresscreep and ask him/her what gives? $5 will
get $10 that "Big Brother" put the gun to Honda's (and every other car
manufacturer's) head and said "Warn Them and Make Sure They Listen or See"

Unquestionably Confused 01-29-2007 11:12 PM

Re: How do I get these #%$&! stickers off my new Civic window visors??
 
D.K. wrote:
> I am not buying new visors at dealer prices! This is ridiculous! I'm
> going to complain to Honda about this. I mean, the stickers are really
> big and bright and obnoxious! I understand they want people not to put
> kids in the front seat, but really, people are going to do what they
> want regardless of the sticker. The stickers should be removable!

[snip]
> If I don't hear from anyone who's done it, I'm writing the VP in
> charge of Customer Relations for Honda and asking him for new visors
> without the damned stickers!


Why not write your Congresscreep and ask him/her what gives? $5 will
get $10 that "Big Brother" put the gun to Honda's (and every other car
manufacturer's) head and said "Warn Them and Make Sure They Listen or See"

Unquestionably Confused 01-29-2007 11:12 PM

Re: How do I get these #%$&! stickers off my new Civic window visors??
 
D.K. wrote:
> I am not buying new visors at dealer prices! This is ridiculous! I'm
> going to complain to Honda about this. I mean, the stickers are really
> big and bright and obnoxious! I understand they want people not to put
> kids in the front seat, but really, people are going to do what they
> want regardless of the sticker. The stickers should be removable!

[snip]
> If I don't hear from anyone who's done it, I'm writing the VP in
> charge of Customer Relations for Honda and asking him for new visors
> without the damned stickers!


Why not write your Congresscreep and ask him/her what gives? $5 will
get $10 that "Big Brother" put the gun to Honda's (and every other car
manufacturer's) head and said "Warn Them and Make Sure They Listen or See"

Unquestionably Confused 01-29-2007 11:12 PM

Re: How do I get these #%$&! stickers off my new Civic window visors??
 
D.K. wrote:
> I am not buying new visors at dealer prices! This is ridiculous! I'm
> going to complain to Honda about this. I mean, the stickers are really
> big and bright and obnoxious! I understand they want people not to put
> kids in the front seat, but really, people are going to do what they
> want regardless of the sticker. The stickers should be removable!

[snip]
> If I don't hear from anyone who's done it, I'm writing the VP in
> charge of Customer Relations for Honda and asking him for new visors
> without the damned stickers!


Why not write your Congresscreep and ask him/her what gives? $5 will
get $10 that "Big Brother" put the gun to Honda's (and every other car
manufacturer's) head and said "Warn Them and Make Sure They Listen or See"

Gordon McGrew 01-30-2007 12:04 AM

Re: How do I get these #%$&! stickers off my new Civic window visors??
 
On 29 Jan 2007 13:33:59 -0800, "D.K." <pdsnickles@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I am not buying new visors at dealer prices! This is ridiculous! I'm
>going to complain to Honda about this. I mean, the stickers are really
>big and bright and obnoxious! I understand they want people not to put
>kids in the front seat, but really, people are going to do what they
>want regardless of the sticker. The stickers should be removable!
>
>As for trying solvent, the visors are not vinyl or plastic, they are
>cloth-covered. The cloth is synthetic, yes, but I fear that any
>solvent will discolor them. I was hoping someone had done this and
>could tell me how to do it without damaging the upholstery.
>
>If I don't hear from anyone who's done it, I'm writing the VP in
>charge of Customer Relations for Honda and asking him for new visors
>without the damned stickers!


Don't bother. If they wanted you to remove the stickers, they would
be removable. Do price the replacements though. It will give you an
incentive to be careful with the ones you have.

Gordon McGrew 01-30-2007 12:04 AM

Re: How do I get these #%$&! stickers off my new Civic window visors??
 
On 29 Jan 2007 13:33:59 -0800, "D.K." <pdsnickles@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I am not buying new visors at dealer prices! This is ridiculous! I'm
>going to complain to Honda about this. I mean, the stickers are really
>big and bright and obnoxious! I understand they want people not to put
>kids in the front seat, but really, people are going to do what they
>want regardless of the sticker. The stickers should be removable!
>
>As for trying solvent, the visors are not vinyl or plastic, they are
>cloth-covered. The cloth is synthetic, yes, but I fear that any
>solvent will discolor them. I was hoping someone had done this and
>could tell me how to do it without damaging the upholstery.
>
>If I don't hear from anyone who's done it, I'm writing the VP in
>charge of Customer Relations for Honda and asking him for new visors
>without the damned stickers!


Don't bother. If they wanted you to remove the stickers, they would
be removable. Do price the replacements though. It will give you an
incentive to be careful with the ones you have.

Gordon McGrew 01-30-2007 12:04 AM

Re: How do I get these #%$&! stickers off my new Civic window visors??
 
On 29 Jan 2007 13:33:59 -0800, "D.K." <pdsnickles@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I am not buying new visors at dealer prices! This is ridiculous! I'm
>going to complain to Honda about this. I mean, the stickers are really
>big and bright and obnoxious! I understand they want people not to put
>kids in the front seat, but really, people are going to do what they
>want regardless of the sticker. The stickers should be removable!
>
>As for trying solvent, the visors are not vinyl or plastic, they are
>cloth-covered. The cloth is synthetic, yes, but I fear that any
>solvent will discolor them. I was hoping someone had done this and
>could tell me how to do it without damaging the upholstery.
>
>If I don't hear from anyone who's done it, I'm writing the VP in
>charge of Customer Relations for Honda and asking him for new visors
>without the damned stickers!


Don't bother. If they wanted you to remove the stickers, they would
be removable. Do price the replacements though. It will give you an
incentive to be careful with the ones you have.


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