Re: How Hard is DIY Valve Adjustment?
 

"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>" <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@verizon.net> wrote in
news:R0Ggi.13395$oo5.5736@trndny09:


>>
>
> I assume you mean a torque wrench with 12mm socket. ;-) I was
> hoping
> to turn the engine by rolling the car in gear. Any problem with that
> approach? I don't remember if the manual gives the bolt size - is 12mm
> applicable to my '95 EX?



You really, really, need a good shop manual. You clearly have no idea
what's involved.
www.helminc.com

Turn the steering wheel all the way to the left. Now get down and peek
inside the wheel well at the splash shield inboard of the wheel. See the
big round rubber plug? Pop that out and you can use a 19mm socket on a long
extension to turn the engine counterclockwise.

The 12mm wrench is for loosening and tightening the locknuts that hold the
valve adjustment. The screwdriver is for the threaded adjusters.

The torque wrench (and 12mm socket) is for making sure the locknuts are
snugged up properly and will not vibrate loose on you.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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Re: How Hard is DIY Valve Adjustment?
 

"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>" <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@verizon.net> wrote in
news:Dj4hi.8662$G85.6490@trndny08:

> jim beam wrote:

>>
>> if you're serious about learning, sign up for evening classes.
>> otherwise leave alone. a fouled up valve adjustment can cost you a
>> lot of money.
>
>
> I guess that establishes you as a troll. Before I filter you, I'll
> again note that I've done valve adjustments - on steel rocker
> assemblies, 30 years ago. Caution isn't the same as ineptitude, and
> sarcasm isn't the same as wisdom.
>


Jim is absolutely right, and he's no troll.

But you are neither cautious nor inept; you are just woefully uninformed.

If you do not know the proper procedure for turning the engine over, and do
not know what tools are required to do the job, then you are risking severe
engine damage.

I suggest getting the Helm manual (NOT a Chilton or Haynes), and reading
some basic auto maintenance texts.
( wwww.helminc.com or eBay)

Actually, I'm scheduled to perform my annual valve check on my DOHC Integra
this weekend. Maybe I'll take some pics.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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Re: How Hard is DIY Valve Adjustment?
 

"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>" <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@verizon.net> wrote in
news:Dj4hi.8662$G85.6490@trndny08:

> jim beam wrote:

>>
>> if you're serious about learning, sign up for evening classes.
>> otherwise leave alone. a fouled up valve adjustment can cost you a
>> lot of money.
>
>
> I guess that establishes you as a troll. Before I filter you, I'll
> again note that I've done valve adjustments - on steel rocker
> assemblies, 30 years ago. Caution isn't the same as ineptitude, and
> sarcasm isn't the same as wisdom.
>


Jim is absolutely right, and he's no troll.

But you are neither cautious nor inept; you are just woefully uninformed.

If you do not know the proper procedure for turning the engine over, and do
not know what tools are required to do the job, then you are risking severe
engine damage.

I suggest getting the Helm manual (NOT a Chilton or Haynes), and reading
some basic auto maintenance texts.
( wwww.helminc.com or eBay)

Actually, I'm scheduled to perform my annual valve check on my DOHC Integra
this weekend. Maybe I'll take some pics.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: How Hard is DIY Valve Adjustment?
 

"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>" <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@verizon.net> wrote in
news:Dj4hi.8662$G85.6490@trndny08:

> jim beam wrote:

>>
>> if you're serious about learning, sign up for evening classes.
>> otherwise leave alone. a fouled up valve adjustment can cost you a
>> lot of money.
>
>
> I guess that establishes you as a troll. Before I filter you, I'll
> again note that I've done valve adjustments - on steel rocker
> assemblies, 30 years ago. Caution isn't the same as ineptitude, and
> sarcasm isn't the same as wisdom.
>


Jim is absolutely right, and he's no troll.

But you are neither cautious nor inept; you are just woefully uninformed.

If you do not know the proper procedure for turning the engine over, and do
not know what tools are required to do the job, then you are risking severe
engine damage.

I suggest getting the Helm manual (NOT a Chilton or Haynes), and reading
some basic auto maintenance texts.
( wwww.helminc.com or eBay)

Actually, I'm scheduled to perform my annual valve check on my DOHC Integra
this weekend. Maybe I'll take some pics.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: How Hard is DIY Valve Adjustment?
 

The factory service manual is free online for this Honda.
See http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html

Based on what you say below, I think you can do this. Just
ask questions here when something seems amiss. Do not
assume.


"mjc13<REMOVETHIS> @verizon.net>" <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote
in message news:_Mpgi.6211$pT4.1450@trndny06...
> Once again, this is a 1995 Civic EX 1.6L 125HP sedan.
> Don't have the serial number at hand. I've done valve lash
> adjustments on old Volvo pushrod engines, but nothing like
> this. It sounds like the adjustment mechanism is
> surprisingly similar, though: set screw and locknut. So,
> any tricks? Is this something best left to a seasoned
> mechanic? I have the Chilton manual.

Re: How Hard is DIY Valve Adjustment?
 

The factory service manual is free online for this Honda.
See http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html

Based on what you say below, I think you can do this. Just
ask questions here when something seems amiss. Do not
assume.


"mjc13<REMOVETHIS> @verizon.net>" <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote
in message news:_Mpgi.6211$pT4.1450@trndny06...
> Once again, this is a 1995 Civic EX 1.6L 125HP sedan.
> Don't have the serial number at hand. I've done valve lash
> adjustments on old Volvo pushrod engines, but nothing like
> this. It sounds like the adjustment mechanism is
> surprisingly similar, though: set screw and locknut. So,
> any tricks? Is this something best left to a seasoned
> mechanic? I have the Chilton manual.

Re: How Hard is DIY Valve Adjustment?
 

The factory service manual is free online for this Honda.
See http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html

Based on what you say below, I think you can do this. Just
ask questions here when something seems amiss. Do not
assume.


"mjc13<REMOVETHIS> @verizon.net>" <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote
in message news:_Mpgi.6211$pT4.1450@trndny06...
> Once again, this is a 1995 Civic EX 1.6L 125HP sedan.
> Don't have the serial number at hand. I've done valve lash
> adjustments on old Volvo pushrod engines, but nothing like
> this. It sounds like the adjustment mechanism is
> surprisingly similar, though: set screw and locknut. So,
> any tricks? Is this something best left to a seasoned
> mechanic? I have the Chilton manual.

Re: How Hard is DIY Valve Adjustment?
 

Tegger wrote:
> "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>" <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:R0Ggi.13395$oo5.5736@trndny09:
>
>
>
>> I assume you mean a torque wrench with 12mm socket. ;-) I was
>> hoping
>>to turn the engine by rolling the car in gear. Any problem with that
>>approach? I don't remember if the manual gives the bolt size - is 12mm
>>applicable to my '95 EX?
>
>
>
>
> You really, really, need a good shop manual. You clearly have no idea
> what's involved.
> www.helminc.com

Not true. You misunderstood me.


>
> Turn the steering wheel all the way to the left. Now get down and peek
> inside the wheel well at the splash shield inboard of the wheel. See the
> big round rubber plug? Pop that out and you can use a 19mm socket on a long
> extension to turn the engine counterclockwise.

Ok, that's how I turn the crankshaft. I was hoping there was another
way to accomplish that, but I can do the above - which the Chilton
manual doesn't mention, at least in this context. I'm not a big fan of
using crank pulley bolts to turn engines, that's all.

>
> The 12mm wrench is for loosening and tightening the locknuts that hold the
> valve adjustment. The screwdriver is for the threaded adjusters.

I understand that perfectly well - the old Volvo motors had a very
similar design at the rocker arms. I also know how to use the feeler guage!


>
> The torque wrench (and 12mm socket) is for making sure the locknuts are
> snugged up properly and will not vibrate loose on you.

And I understand that as well. I was trying to confirm that 12mm was
the correct size for this particular engine. Hopefully it is, or if it
isn't I'll have the correct size.

No offense, but the Volvo and Camry techs seem to be nicer. ;-)

Re: How Hard is DIY Valve Adjustment?
 

Tegger wrote:
> "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>" <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:R0Ggi.13395$oo5.5736@trndny09:
>
>
>
>> I assume you mean a torque wrench with 12mm socket. ;-) I was
>> hoping
>>to turn the engine by rolling the car in gear. Any problem with that
>>approach? I don't remember if the manual gives the bolt size - is 12mm
>>applicable to my '95 EX?
>
>
>
>
> You really, really, need a good shop manual. You clearly have no idea
> what's involved.
> www.helminc.com

Not true. You misunderstood me.


>
> Turn the steering wheel all the way to the left. Now get down and peek
> inside the wheel well at the splash shield inboard of the wheel. See the
> big round rubber plug? Pop that out and you can use a 19mm socket on a long
> extension to turn the engine counterclockwise.

Ok, that's how I turn the crankshaft. I was hoping there was another
way to accomplish that, but I can do the above - which the Chilton
manual doesn't mention, at least in this context. I'm not a big fan of
using crank pulley bolts to turn engines, that's all.

>
> The 12mm wrench is for loosening and tightening the locknuts that hold the
> valve adjustment. The screwdriver is for the threaded adjusters.

I understand that perfectly well - the old Volvo motors had a very
similar design at the rocker arms. I also know how to use the feeler guage!


>
> The torque wrench (and 12mm socket) is for making sure the locknuts are
> snugged up properly and will not vibrate loose on you.

And I understand that as well. I was trying to confirm that 12mm was
the correct size for this particular engine. Hopefully it is, or if it
isn't I'll have the correct size.

No offense, but the Volvo and Camry techs seem to be nicer. ;-)

Re: How Hard is DIY Valve Adjustment?
 

Tegger wrote:
> "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>" <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:R0Ggi.13395$oo5.5736@trndny09:
>
>
>
>> I assume you mean a torque wrench with 12mm socket. ;-) I was
>> hoping
>>to turn the engine by rolling the car in gear. Any problem with that
>>approach? I don't remember if the manual gives the bolt size - is 12mm
>>applicable to my '95 EX?
>
>
>
>
> You really, really, need a good shop manual. You clearly have no idea
> what's involved.
> www.helminc.com

Not true. You misunderstood me.


>
> Turn the steering wheel all the way to the left. Now get down and peek
> inside the wheel well at the splash shield inboard of the wheel. See the
> big round rubber plug? Pop that out and you can use a 19mm socket on a long
> extension to turn the engine counterclockwise.

Ok, that's how I turn the crankshaft. I was hoping there was another
way to accomplish that, but I can do the above - which the Chilton
manual doesn't mention, at least in this context. I'm not a big fan of
using crank pulley bolts to turn engines, that's all.

>
> The 12mm wrench is for loosening and tightening the locknuts that hold the
> valve adjustment. The screwdriver is for the threaded adjusters.

I understand that perfectly well - the old Volvo motors had a very
similar design at the rocker arms. I also know how to use the feeler guage!


>
> The torque wrench (and 12mm socket) is for making sure the locknuts are
> snugged up properly and will not vibrate loose on you.

And I understand that as well. I was trying to confirm that 12mm was
the correct size for this particular engine. Hopefully it is, or if it
isn't I'll have the correct size.

No offense, but the Volvo and Camry techs seem to be nicer. ;-)

Re: How Hard is DIY Valve Adjustment?
 

Elle wrote:

> The factory service manual is free online for this Honda.
> See http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html
>
> Based on what you say below, I think you can do this. Just
> ask questions here when something seems amiss. Do not
> assume.


I did look at that manual - thanks again for the link. As for asking
questions... not in this newsgroup, I think. You're the only one who
seems to be reading what I'm actually writing.


>
>
> "mjc13<REMOVETHIS> @verizon.net>" <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote
> in message news:_Mpgi.6211$pT4.1450@trndny06...
>
>> Once again, this is a 1995 Civic EX 1.6L 125HP sedan.
>>Don't have the serial number at hand. I've done valve lash
>>adjustments on old Volvo pushrod engines, but nothing like
>>this. It sounds like the adjustment mechanism is
>>surprisingly similar, though: set screw and locknut. So,
>>any tricks? Is this something best left to a seasoned
>>mechanic? I have the Chilton manual.
>
>
>

Re: How Hard is DIY Valve Adjustment?
 

Elle wrote:

> The factory service manual is free online for this Honda.
> See http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html
>
> Based on what you say below, I think you can do this. Just
> ask questions here when something seems amiss. Do not
> assume.


I did look at that manual - thanks again for the link. As for asking
questions... not in this newsgroup, I think. You're the only one who
seems to be reading what I'm actually writing.


>
>
> "mjc13<REMOVETHIS> @verizon.net>" <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote
> in message news:_Mpgi.6211$pT4.1450@trndny06...
>
>> Once again, this is a 1995 Civic EX 1.6L 125HP sedan.
>>Don't have the serial number at hand. I've done valve lash
>>adjustments on old Volvo pushrod engines, but nothing like
>>this. It sounds like the adjustment mechanism is
>>surprisingly similar, though: set screw and locknut. So,
>>any tricks? Is this something best left to a seasoned
>>mechanic? I have the Chilton manual.
>
>
>

Re: How Hard is DIY Valve Adjustment?
 

Elle wrote:

> The factory service manual is free online for this Honda.
> See http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html
>
> Based on what you say below, I think you can do this. Just
> ask questions here when something seems amiss. Do not
> assume.


I did look at that manual - thanks again for the link. As for asking
questions... not in this newsgroup, I think. You're the only one who
seems to be reading what I'm actually writing.


>
>
> "mjc13<REMOVETHIS> @verizon.net>" <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote
> in message news:_Mpgi.6211$pT4.1450@trndny06...
>
>> Once again, this is a 1995 Civic EX 1.6L 125HP sedan.
>>Don't have the serial number at hand. I've done valve lash
>>adjustments on old Volvo pushrod engines, but nothing like
>>this. It sounds like the adjustment mechanism is
>>surprisingly similar, though: set screw and locknut. So,
>>any tricks? Is this something best left to a seasoned
>>mechanic? I have the Chilton manual.
>
>
>

Those Alltrade/Powerboat wrenches make it a little easier . I bought one when buying a Powerbuilt crankshaft pulley holder tool for Honda at Amazon . BTW that pulley holder is must for a DIY TB replacement job .