Re: How many Hondas have you owned?
 

In article <xTY9h.204$rq2.198@newsfe20.lga>, twaugh5@cox.net says...
>
> "Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1fd1868387a1853698a122@207.14.116.130...
> > In article <n2M9h.180$rq2.92@newsfe20.lga>, twaugh5@cox.net says...
> >
> > > Started in Tokyo in 1967 with a 305cc CL 77 scrambler and replaced it
> with a
> > > 68 350 I shipped to the States. Remember seeing the CB 750 for the 1st
> time
> > > in Dec 68 at the Tokyo motorshow -- a real show stopped and amazing for
> the
> > > time.
> > > 1970 CB 750 (cost less than the Triumph Bonneville I had before which
> was
> > > stolen by a bunch of local thugs -- Harley riders)
> > > 1973 CB 750
> > > 1978 750F -- a shared experience I see and also my last motorcycle.
> >
> > I sense a pattern here. :-)
> >
> > I still have my 750F, although it's been in storage for six years and
> > would take some effort to get running again. Yet another project I
> > really need to tackle. It's an '81 that was modified considerably by its
> > previous owner, a roadracer who used it as his streetbike. It has a big-
> > bore kit to punch it out to 836cc, a Kerker 4-into-1, a Corbin
> > Gunfighter seat matching the factory paint colors, tweaked carbs off a
> > 900F with K&Ns, Superbike bars, and probably a bunch of other stuff I'm
> > forgetting right now. By modern standards it's overweight and slow, but
> > it was plenty fast for me when it was my sole transportation for a few
> > years.
> >
> > I still want a CBX - saw this amazing custom one recently in a bike mag:
> >
> > http://www.cycleworld.com/article.as...article_id=221
> >
> > And if I ever win the lottery, an RC166 - still a near-unsurpassed
> > engineering achievement forty years later, and still the most spine-
> > tingling sound ever to emanate from anything on two wheels. Speaking of
> > engine sounds, Honda's Japanese website has a very interesting section
> > called "The Sound of Honda" where you can listen to many different
> > Hondas (both street and racing, motorcycles and cars) running at speed:
> >
> > http://www.honda.co.jp/SoundofHonda/
> >
> > Dave
> >
> The CBX -- still amazing and the RC 166 ( and I think there was also a 266 6
> cylinder) are technical achievements still amazing today.

The RC174 was the other inline-6 - it had a 297cc engine and raced in
the 350cc class. Check out this article about a guy in the UK who built
a half-dozen exact replicas of the RC174 from scratch, each of which was
sold for close to $500,000!

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/fe...nda_rc174_six/

Dave

Re: How many Hondas have you owned?
 

In article <vurgm2146mtsmm3u1rbvpga03ifnqdhf7m@4ax.com>,
JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net says...
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:23:27 -0600, Dave Garrett <dave@compassnet.com>
> wrote:

> >> Of course I once lusted after a six-cylinder Alfa. Then they went and
> >> built (eg, imported) one, and I wouldn't touch it. WTH, my Accord I4
> >> puts out more horsepower than that old 3-liter Alfa. Tech.
> >
> >GTV6, Milano, or 164?
>
> Was thinking of the GTV6, I drove the 4-cylinder Alfetta for seven
> years, with reasonable reliability - and expensive scheduled service.

One of my friends bought an Alfetta after I got my GTV6. The Alfettas
were more reliable than the GTV6s, but then again they'd had a lot more
time to develop the engine and transmission, so most of the major
engineering kinks had been worked out by the time the Alfetta came
around.

> The Milano Saab-Alfas I never really looked at closely. Dad had a
> Saab 93 back when, with the two-stroke engine and suicide doors, sort
> of puts a shadow on the name to this day!

I never could get past the Milano/164 styling, but they certainly had
good power. My local Alfa mechanic used to race a Milano in SCCA's SSGT
class, and it was a real rocket.

Dave

Re: How many Hondas have you owned?
 

In article <vurgm2146mtsmm3u1rbvpga03ifnqdhf7m@4ax.com>,
JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net says...
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:23:27 -0600, Dave Garrett <dave@compassnet.com>
> wrote:

> >> Of course I once lusted after a six-cylinder Alfa. Then they went and
> >> built (eg, imported) one, and I wouldn't touch it. WTH, my Accord I4
> >> puts out more horsepower than that old 3-liter Alfa. Tech.
> >
> >GTV6, Milano, or 164?
>
> Was thinking of the GTV6, I drove the 4-cylinder Alfetta for seven
> years, with reasonable reliability - and expensive scheduled service.

One of my friends bought an Alfetta after I got my GTV6. The Alfettas
were more reliable than the GTV6s, but then again they'd had a lot more
time to develop the engine and transmission, so most of the major
engineering kinks had been worked out by the time the Alfetta came
around.

> The Milano Saab-Alfas I never really looked at closely. Dad had a
> Saab 93 back when, with the two-stroke engine and suicide doors, sort
> of puts a shadow on the name to this day!

I never could get past the Milano/164 styling, but they certainly had
good power. My local Alfa mechanic used to race a Milano in SCCA's SSGT
class, and it was a real rocket.

Dave

Re: How many Hondas have you owned?
 

In article <vurgm2146mtsmm3u1rbvpga03ifnqdhf7m@4ax.com>,
JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net says...
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:23:27 -0600, Dave Garrett <dave@compassnet.com>
> wrote:

> >> Of course I once lusted after a six-cylinder Alfa. Then they went and
> >> built (eg, imported) one, and I wouldn't touch it. WTH, my Accord I4
> >> puts out more horsepower than that old 3-liter Alfa. Tech.
> >
> >GTV6, Milano, or 164?
>
> Was thinking of the GTV6, I drove the 4-cylinder Alfetta for seven
> years, with reasonable reliability - and expensive scheduled service.

One of my friends bought an Alfetta after I got my GTV6. The Alfettas
were more reliable than the GTV6s, but then again they'd had a lot more
time to develop the engine and transmission, so most of the major
engineering kinks had been worked out by the time the Alfetta came
around.

> The Milano Saab-Alfas I never really looked at closely. Dad had a
> Saab 93 back when, with the two-stroke engine and suicide doors, sort
> of puts a shadow on the name to this day!

I never could get past the Milano/164 styling, but they certainly had
good power. My local Alfa mechanic used to race a Milano in SCCA's SSGT
class, and it was a real rocket.

Dave

Re: How many Hondas have you owned?
 

On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:40:47 -0500, tww wrote:

>> > Manuals are tough to find. Should imagine you would have to special
> order
>> > one.
>>
>> Every dealer around here generally has a full assortment of models with a
>> manual tranny...
>>
>> I can't think of anything that I looked at this June, on the lot, that
>> didn't have something close to it in a manual.
>
> Every time I go in for service at my local Honda dealer I look through the
> lot and may find one Civic with a manual. Last Sat -- not a one.

The dealers around here do not have a lot of civic's to begin with. There
are always a few, though, and about half seem to be manual, my guess being
that they probably move a bit more slowly.

There are also plenty of Accord's on the lot, and probably about 10-15% of
them are Manual...

Re: How many Hondas have you owned?
 

On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:40:47 -0500, tww wrote:

>> > Manuals are tough to find. Should imagine you would have to special
> order
>> > one.
>>
>> Every dealer around here generally has a full assortment of models with a
>> manual tranny...
>>
>> I can't think of anything that I looked at this June, on the lot, that
>> didn't have something close to it in a manual.
>
> Every time I go in for service at my local Honda dealer I look through the
> lot and may find one Civic with a manual. Last Sat -- not a one.

The dealers around here do not have a lot of civic's to begin with. There
are always a few, though, and about half seem to be manual, my guess being
that they probably move a bit more slowly.

There are also plenty of Accord's on the lot, and probably about 10-15% of
them are Manual...

Re: How many Hondas have you owned?
 

On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:40:47 -0500, tww wrote:

>> > Manuals are tough to find. Should imagine you would have to special
> order
>> > one.
>>
>> Every dealer around here generally has a full assortment of models with a
>> manual tranny...
>>
>> I can't think of anything that I looked at this June, on the lot, that
>> didn't have something close to it in a manual.
>
> Every time I go in for service at my local Honda dealer I look through the
> lot and may find one Civic with a manual. Last Sat -- not a one.

The dealers around here do not have a lot of civic's to begin with. There
are always a few, though, and about half seem to be manual, my guess being
that they probably move a bit more slowly.

There are also plenty of Accord's on the lot, and probably about 10-15% of
them are Manual...

Re: How many Hondas have you owned?
 

"Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1fd1249a871c7d998a120@207.14.116.130...
>I recently got to thinking about the Hondas I've owned and how the cars
> have changed over the years. When I bought my first one, Hondas had a
> well-earned reputation for high reliability and economy coupled with
> innovative engineering. I still have trouble believing that a top-of-
> the-line Civic is now a $20K+ car - it wasn't that long ago that fully-
> loaded Accords barely breached that price.
>
> Hondas I've owned:
>
> 82 Prelude, bought in late 1986 to replace a '76 Plymouth Duster whose
> frame had cracked. I'd gone to a few dealers hoping to find a clean
> Civic 1500 S, but there were none to be had, and a salesman convinced me
> to test-drive a Prelude instead. An uninsured driver drove right through
> a red light in 1990, and I t-boned him at about 30mph, totaling my car
> less than a month after I'd had the engine completely rebuilt.
>
> 83 Accord sedan - bought for $400 in 1992 when I was short of cash but
> also needed a beater for the times when my usual two-wheeled transport
> (another Honda, a CB750F) wouldn't suffice. The engine wouldn't rev
> above 3000rpm without starting to stutter and then die completely. It
> was fine on city streets, but was unsafe to drive on the freeway. Drove
> it for about six months as it was and sold it for what I paid for it.
>
> 80 Accord sedan - bought in 1993 for $500 for my wife, as a short-term
> replacement for her VW Rabbit that was totaled by yet another red-light-
> running uninsured driver. I wish I still had this car - it was in that
> distinctive shade of light metallic green that was a popular factory
> paint color with Hondas then.
>
> 86 Accord LXi hatchback - bought in early 1995 for my wife. Owned until
> 2003 with the only major problem being a broken (5-speed manual)
> transmission that required replacement with a rebuilt one. Still ran
> well when we sold it, but the AC had quit working a couple of years
> previously, and as it was 17 years old she decided she'd rather have a
> newer vehicle with fewer maintenance issues.
>
> 90 CRX Si - bought in 1993 with roughly 20K miles on it. Still my daily
> driver, with just over 126K miles now. Like the 86 Accord, at nearly 17
> it's started to have an increasing number of age-related problems that
> I'm either going to have to address soon or decide to buy a new car
> (probable suspension rebuild, AC quit working a year ago, a couple of
> patches of rust on the A-pillar and sunroof, some original rubber parts
> decaying, and other cosmetic issues). My favorite out of all the Hondas
> I've had.
>
> 99 Accord EX V6 sedan - bought in 2003 as a replacement for our 86
> Accord. Just recently passed 90K miles, and hope to continue driving it
> for many more years (keeping my fingers crossed on the well-known
> transmission issues). Plenty of room, very comfortable in the European
> sense (stiffer suspension than many other Japanese or American sedans),
> more than adequate power for almost every situation.
>
> Hondas I'd like to own: I'd really like to keep the CRX and completely
> rebuild it into a serious weekend hot rod (suspension and braking
> upgrades and an engine swap for a tuned, naturally-aspirated B-series
> motor in the 250HP range). Replacing it for a daily driver would be a
> new Fit Sport (the true successor to the older-generation Civics), but I
> don't see that happening until the supply increases enough to where
> they're commonplace on dealer lots and better deals are being made.
>
> I'd also like to restore a 1st- or 2nd-gen Civic. These used to be
> plentiful, but now you hardly ever see one on the street. And every time
> I sit in an S2000, I want one, but then reality sets in after I remember
> the price tag. Beautiful cars, but like the new Civics, I always start
> thinking of what else I could get for the same amount of money or less.
>
> So, how many Hondas have you owned, and which ones would you like to
> own?
>
> Dave
>
1966 CB 90 MC
1973 CB 160 MC
1974 CB 350 MC
1979 CVCC Civic Hatchback
1996 Accord LX, now belongs to son
1996 Accord LX, daughter
1998 Accord LX self
2005 CRX brother
2006 Pilot, daughter
1995 Honda Helix brother
19?? Honda Reflex brother
2006 Honda Helix, my toy

All excellent products!!!!

Re: How many Hondas have you owned?
 

"Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1fd1249a871c7d998a120@207.14.116.130...
>I recently got to thinking about the Hondas I've owned and how the cars
> have changed over the years. When I bought my first one, Hondas had a
> well-earned reputation for high reliability and economy coupled with
> innovative engineering. I still have trouble believing that a top-of-
> the-line Civic is now a $20K+ car - it wasn't that long ago that fully-
> loaded Accords barely breached that price.
>
> Hondas I've owned:
>
> 82 Prelude, bought in late 1986 to replace a '76 Plymouth Duster whose
> frame had cracked. I'd gone to a few dealers hoping to find a clean
> Civic 1500 S, but there were none to be had, and a salesman convinced me
> to test-drive a Prelude instead. An uninsured driver drove right through
> a red light in 1990, and I t-boned him at about 30mph, totaling my car
> less than a month after I'd had the engine completely rebuilt.
>
> 83 Accord sedan - bought for $400 in 1992 when I was short of cash but
> also needed a beater for the times when my usual two-wheeled transport
> (another Honda, a CB750F) wouldn't suffice. The engine wouldn't rev
> above 3000rpm without starting to stutter and then die completely. It
> was fine on city streets, but was unsafe to drive on the freeway. Drove
> it for about six months as it was and sold it for what I paid for it.
>
> 80 Accord sedan - bought in 1993 for $500 for my wife, as a short-term
> replacement for her VW Rabbit that was totaled by yet another red-light-
> running uninsured driver. I wish I still had this car - it was in that
> distinctive shade of light metallic green that was a popular factory
> paint color with Hondas then.
>
> 86 Accord LXi hatchback - bought in early 1995 for my wife. Owned until
> 2003 with the only major problem being a broken (5-speed manual)
> transmission that required replacement with a rebuilt one. Still ran
> well when we sold it, but the AC had quit working a couple of years
> previously, and as it was 17 years old she decided she'd rather have a
> newer vehicle with fewer maintenance issues.
>
> 90 CRX Si - bought in 1993 with roughly 20K miles on it. Still my daily
> driver, with just over 126K miles now. Like the 86 Accord, at nearly 17
> it's started to have an increasing number of age-related problems that
> I'm either going to have to address soon or decide to buy a new car
> (probable suspension rebuild, AC quit working a year ago, a couple of
> patches of rust on the A-pillar and sunroof, some original rubber parts
> decaying, and other cosmetic issues). My favorite out of all the Hondas
> I've had.
>
> 99 Accord EX V6 sedan - bought in 2003 as a replacement for our 86
> Accord. Just recently passed 90K miles, and hope to continue driving it
> for many more years (keeping my fingers crossed on the well-known
> transmission issues). Plenty of room, very comfortable in the European
> sense (stiffer suspension than many other Japanese or American sedans),
> more than adequate power for almost every situation.
>
> Hondas I'd like to own: I'd really like to keep the CRX and completely
> rebuild it into a serious weekend hot rod (suspension and braking
> upgrades and an engine swap for a tuned, naturally-aspirated B-series
> motor in the 250HP range). Replacing it for a daily driver would be a
> new Fit Sport (the true successor to the older-generation Civics), but I
> don't see that happening until the supply increases enough to where
> they're commonplace on dealer lots and better deals are being made.
>
> I'd also like to restore a 1st- or 2nd-gen Civic. These used to be
> plentiful, but now you hardly ever see one on the street. And every time
> I sit in an S2000, I want one, but then reality sets in after I remember
> the price tag. Beautiful cars, but like the new Civics, I always start
> thinking of what else I could get for the same amount of money or less.
>
> So, how many Hondas have you owned, and which ones would you like to
> own?
>
> Dave
>
1966 CB 90 MC
1973 CB 160 MC
1974 CB 350 MC
1979 CVCC Civic Hatchback
1996 Accord LX, now belongs to son
1996 Accord LX, daughter
1998 Accord LX self
2005 CRX brother
2006 Pilot, daughter
1995 Honda Helix brother
19?? Honda Reflex brother
2006 Honda Helix, my toy

All excellent products!!!!

Re: How many Hondas have you owned?
 

"Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1fd1249a871c7d998a120@207.14.116.130...
>I recently got to thinking about the Hondas I've owned and how the cars
> have changed over the years. When I bought my first one, Hondas had a
> well-earned reputation for high reliability and economy coupled with
> innovative engineering. I still have trouble believing that a top-of-
> the-line Civic is now a $20K+ car - it wasn't that long ago that fully-
> loaded Accords barely breached that price.
>
> Hondas I've owned:
>
> 82 Prelude, bought in late 1986 to replace a '76 Plymouth Duster whose
> frame had cracked. I'd gone to a few dealers hoping to find a clean
> Civic 1500 S, but there were none to be had, and a salesman convinced me
> to test-drive a Prelude instead. An uninsured driver drove right through
> a red light in 1990, and I t-boned him at about 30mph, totaling my car
> less than a month after I'd had the engine completely rebuilt.
>
> 83 Accord sedan - bought for $400 in 1992 when I was short of cash but
> also needed a beater for the times when my usual two-wheeled transport
> (another Honda, a CB750F) wouldn't suffice. The engine wouldn't rev
> above 3000rpm without starting to stutter and then die completely. It
> was fine on city streets, but was unsafe to drive on the freeway. Drove
> it for about six months as it was and sold it for what I paid for it.
>
> 80 Accord sedan - bought in 1993 for $500 for my wife, as a short-term
> replacement for her VW Rabbit that was totaled by yet another red-light-
> running uninsured driver. I wish I still had this car - it was in that
> distinctive shade of light metallic green that was a popular factory
> paint color with Hondas then.
>
> 86 Accord LXi hatchback - bought in early 1995 for my wife. Owned until
> 2003 with the only major problem being a broken (5-speed manual)
> transmission that required replacement with a rebuilt one. Still ran
> well when we sold it, but the AC had quit working a couple of years
> previously, and as it was 17 years old she decided she'd rather have a
> newer vehicle with fewer maintenance issues.
>
> 90 CRX Si - bought in 1993 with roughly 20K miles on it. Still my daily
> driver, with just over 126K miles now. Like the 86 Accord, at nearly 17
> it's started to have an increasing number of age-related problems that
> I'm either going to have to address soon or decide to buy a new car
> (probable suspension rebuild, AC quit working a year ago, a couple of
> patches of rust on the A-pillar and sunroof, some original rubber parts
> decaying, and other cosmetic issues). My favorite out of all the Hondas
> I've had.
>
> 99 Accord EX V6 sedan - bought in 2003 as a replacement for our 86
> Accord. Just recently passed 90K miles, and hope to continue driving it
> for many more years (keeping my fingers crossed on the well-known
> transmission issues). Plenty of room, very comfortable in the European
> sense (stiffer suspension than many other Japanese or American sedans),
> more than adequate power for almost every situation.
>
> Hondas I'd like to own: I'd really like to keep the CRX and completely
> rebuild it into a serious weekend hot rod (suspension and braking
> upgrades and an engine swap for a tuned, naturally-aspirated B-series
> motor in the 250HP range). Replacing it for a daily driver would be a
> new Fit Sport (the true successor to the older-generation Civics), but I
> don't see that happening until the supply increases enough to where
> they're commonplace on dealer lots and better deals are being made.
>
> I'd also like to restore a 1st- or 2nd-gen Civic. These used to be
> plentiful, but now you hardly ever see one on the street. And every time
> I sit in an S2000, I want one, but then reality sets in after I remember
> the price tag. Beautiful cars, but like the new Civics, I always start
> thinking of what else I could get for the same amount of money or less.
>
> So, how many Hondas have you owned, and which ones would you like to
> own?
>
> Dave
>
1966 CB 90 MC
1973 CB 160 MC
1974 CB 350 MC
1979 CVCC Civic Hatchback
1996 Accord LX, now belongs to son
1996 Accord LX, daughter
1998 Accord LX self
2005 CRX brother
2006 Pilot, daughter
1995 Honda Helix brother
19?? Honda Reflex brother
2006 Honda Helix, my toy

All excellent products!!!!

Re: How many Hondas have you owned?
 

1973 CT70 - still have today...licensed and road worthy.
1978 CB750 - sold in 1989.
1989 Nighthawk 650...totaled by some clown who pulled out in front of
me (I had a nasty knee/leg injury).
1990 XR500 - stolen in 1992...not insured, never recovered (grrrrrr).
1990 Accord - sold last year, after my youngest daughter went off to
school.
1992 VF 500 Interceptor - sold in 1994
1994 Accord - best car I ever owned...oldest daughter totaled it in
'05
1995 VFR 1000 - sold in 2000.
1998 Accord - sold in 2004.
2003 Acura TL-S - sitting in the garage right now

Re: How many Hondas have you owned?
 

1973 CT70 - still have today...licensed and road worthy.
1978 CB750 - sold in 1989.
1989 Nighthawk 650...totaled by some clown who pulled out in front of
me (I had a nasty knee/leg injury).
1990 XR500 - stolen in 1992...not insured, never recovered (grrrrrr).
1990 Accord - sold last year, after my youngest daughter went off to
school.
1992 VF 500 Interceptor - sold in 1994
1994 Accord - best car I ever owned...oldest daughter totaled it in
'05
1995 VFR 1000 - sold in 2000.
1998 Accord - sold in 2004.
2003 Acura TL-S - sitting in the garage right now

Re: How many Hondas have you owned?
 

1973 CT70 - still have today...licensed and road worthy.
1978 CB750 - sold in 1989.
1989 Nighthawk 650...totaled by some clown who pulled out in front of
me (I had a nasty knee/leg injury).
1990 XR500 - stolen in 1992...not insured, never recovered (grrrrrr).
1990 Accord - sold last year, after my youngest daughter went off to
school.
1992 VF 500 Interceptor - sold in 1994
1994 Accord - best car I ever owned...oldest daughter totaled it in
'05
1995 VFR 1000 - sold in 2000.
1998 Accord - sold in 2004.
2003 Acura TL-S - sitting in the garage right now

Re: How many Hondas have you owned?
 

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:45:58 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m>
wrote:

> Looks like it
>had a US-style single red lamp for tail/brake/signal, no?

Most likely, the rear fog lamp.

Re: How many Hondas have you owned?
 

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:45:58 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m>
wrote:

> Looks like it
>had a US-style single red lamp for tail/brake/signal, no?

Most likely, the rear fog lamp.