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muzzy 11-17-2007 02:19 PM

hybrid mileage
 
I have a '04 Civic hybrid that I have been disappointed with the
mileage thereof (33-34). Would you that have late model Civic
hybrids comment on your mileage experienced - would appreciat
it.


Greg Ricker 11-17-2007 03:08 PM

Re: hybrid mileage
 
2007 Hybrid Civic with low miles on it and all tanks averaging over 42MPG.
Combo city and hwy miles. Recording each tank and miles driven.

Suggestions to consider:
- Carrying extra weight in the car you don't need?
- Maileage change AC on or off?
- Engine well tuned? Air filter OK
- IMA batteries OK?
- Tires properly inflated?

Might ask your dealer for suggestions as well.


"muzzy" <x33y55z@charter.net> wrote in message
news:difuj351rb43fqkgavsiou4vlktvbosfcu@4ax.com...
>I have a '04 Civic hybrid that I have been disappointed with the
> mileage thereof (33-34). Would you that have late model Civic
> hybrids comment on your mileage experienced - would appreciat
> it.
>




Justbob30 11-17-2007 06:10 PM

Re: hybrid mileage
 
2007 Civic Hy. avg just over 42 mpg city only..... take a look here

http://www.greenhybrid.com/



"muzzy" <x33y55z@charter.net> wrote in message
news:difuj351rb43fqkgavsiou4vlktvbosfcu@4ax.com...
>I have a '04 Civic hybrid that I have been disappointed with the
> mileage thereof (33-34). Would you that have late model Civic
> hybrids comment on your mileage experienced - would appreciat
> it.
>


Spazpop2000 11-17-2007 10:21 PM

Re: hybrid mileage
 
Our '04 Civic hybrid (58K miles) is averaging 43 mpg (approx. 50% Hwy,
50% city)...

On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:19:11 -0600, muzzy <x33y55z@charter.net> wrote:

>I have a '04 Civic hybrid that I have been disappointed with the
>mileage thereof (33-34). Would you that have late model Civic
>hybrids comment on your mileage experienced - would appreciat
>it.


Grumpy AuContraire 11-18-2007 11:41 AM

Re: hybrid mileage
 
That's about the same as my ancient '83 Civic FE...

JT



Spazpop2000 wrote:
> Our '04 Civic hybrid (58K miles) is averaging 43 mpg (approx. 50% Hwy,
> 50% city)...
>
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:19:11 -0600, muzzy <x33y55z@charter.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I have a '04 Civic hybrid that I have been disappointed with the
>>mileage thereof (33-34). Would you that have late model Civic
>>hybrids comment on your mileage experienced - would appreciat
>>it.


Justbob30 11-18-2007 01:37 PM

Re: hybrid mileage
 
Yeah, is your 83 one of the 2 cleanest cars sold in the US & oh, yeah, does
it have all the modern amenities of a 07? you know, air bags, anti lock
brakes cvt transmission, automatic air conditioning?.....yeah it is green to
drive a car till it drops but, 25 years is a long time to be without
technology.
BTW, my "best" mileage has been in the mid 70's for about 50 miles, heck, I
have even sustained 150 for a couple of miles.

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
news:WWZ%i.111686$kj1.85766@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> That's about the same as my ancient '83 Civic FE...
>
> JT
>
>
>
> Spazpop2000 wrote:
>> Our '04 Civic hybrid (58K miles) is averaging 43 mpg (approx. 50% Hwy,
>> 50% city)...
>>
>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:19:11 -0600, muzzy <x33y55z@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have a '04 Civic hybrid that I have been disappointed with the
>>>mileage thereof (33-34). Would you that have late model Civic
>>>hybrids comment on your mileage experienced - would appreciat
>>>it.



Elmo P. Shagnasty 11-18-2007 04:04 PM

Re: hybrid mileage
 
In article <6qydnReMpO0WG93anZ2dnUVZ_r6rnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Justbob30" <NoThank@you.com> wrote:

> Yeah, is your 83 one of the 2 cleanest cars sold in the US & oh, yeah, does
> it have all the modern amenities of a 07?


the point is, an average car back in 1983 got the same mileage as what
it takes a SPECIALLY DESIGNED car to get today.

That's called moving backwards.


Grumpy AuContraire 11-18-2007 06:31 PM

Re: hybrid mileage
 
My starts up every time, goes where I point it and is comfortable enough
for me.

All that other stuff you mentioned is just making something idiot proof
(at great cost) which simply encourages the production of more idiots.

Oh, and the FE gets a consistent 50+ mph on the highway.

Lastly, it is a car that I still can maintain and repair when necessary
which isn't often. And, it's paid for...

JT



Justbob30 wrote:
> Yeah, is your 83 one of the 2 cleanest cars sold in the US & oh, yeah,
> does it have all the modern amenities of a 07? you know, air bags, anti
> lock brakes cvt transmission, automatic air conditioning?.....yeah it is
> green to drive a car till it drops but, 25 years is a long time to be
> without technology.
> BTW, my "best" mileage has been in the mid 70's for about 50 miles,
> heck, I have even sustained 150 for a couple of miles.
>
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
> news:WWZ%i.111686$kj1.85766@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>> That's about the same as my ancient '83 Civic FE...
>>
>> JT
>>
>>
>>
>> Spazpop2000 wrote:
>>
>>> Our '04 Civic hybrid (58K miles) is averaging 43 mpg (approx. 50% Hwy,
>>> 50% city)...
>>>
>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:19:11 -0600, muzzy <x33y55z@charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have a '04 Civic hybrid that I have been disappointed with the
>>>> mileage thereof (33-34). Would you that have late model Civic
>>>> hybrids comment on your mileage experienced - would appreciat
>>>> it.

>
>


Grumpy AuContraire 11-18-2007 06:32 PM

Re: hybrid mileage
 


Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article <6qydnReMpO0WG93anZ2dnUVZ_r6rnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Justbob30" <NoThank@you.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Yeah, is your 83 one of the 2 cleanest cars sold in the US & oh, yeah, does
>>it have all the modern amenities of a 07?

>
>
> the point is, an average car back in 1983 got the same mileage as what
> it takes a SPECIALLY DESIGNED car to get today.
>
> That's called moving backwards.
>



Yep, especially when all the new fangled gadgets start going belly up...

<G>

JT


Justbob30 11-18-2007 07:16 PM

Re: hybrid mileage
 
We all measure backwards differently, If you are happy with your 83 more
power to you.

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
news:LX30j.29659$if6.16266@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> My starts up every time, goes where I point it and is comfortable enough
> for me.
>
> All that other stuff you mentioned is just making something idiot proof
> (at great cost) which simply encourages the production of more idiots.
>
> Oh, and the FE gets a consistent 50+ mph on the highway.
>
> Lastly, it is a car that I still can maintain and repair when necessary
> which isn't often. And, it's paid for...
>
> JT
>
>
>
> Justbob30 wrote:
>> Yeah, is your 83 one of the 2 cleanest cars sold in the US & oh, yeah,
>> does it have all the modern amenities of a 07? you know, air bags, anti
>> lock brakes cvt transmission, automatic air conditioning?.....yeah it is
>> green to drive a car till it drops but, 25 years is a long time to be
>> without technology.
>> BTW, my "best" mileage has been in the mid 70's for about 50 miles, heck,
>> I have even sustained 150 for a couple of miles.
>>
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>> news:WWZ%i.111686$kj1.85766@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>
>>> That's about the same as my ancient '83 Civic FE...
>>>
>>> JT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Spazpop2000 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Our '04 Civic hybrid (58K miles) is averaging 43 mpg (approx. 50% Hwy,
>>>> 50% city)...
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:19:11 -0600, muzzy <x33y55z@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have a '04 Civic hybrid that I have been disappointed with the
>>>>> mileage thereof (33-34). Would you that have late model Civic
>>>>> hybrids comment on your mileage experienced - would appreciat
>>>>> it.

>>
>>


Elle 11-18-2007 08:19 PM

Re: hybrid mileage
 
> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> the point is, an average car back in 1983 got the same
>> mileage as what it takes a SPECIALLY DESIGNED car to get
>> today.
>>
>> That's called moving backwards.


The special design is called a larger displacement engine.



jim beam 11-18-2007 10:15 PM

Re: hybrid mileage
 
Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
> That's about the same as my ancient '83 Civic FE...


what does it weigh?


>
> JT
>
>
>
> Spazpop2000 wrote:
>> Our '04 Civic hybrid (58K miles) is averaging 43 mpg (approx. 50% Hwy,
>> 50% city)...
>>
>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:19:11 -0600, muzzy <x33y55z@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have a '04 Civic hybrid that I have been disappointed with the
>>> mileage thereof (33-34). Would you that have late model Civic
>>> hybrids comment on your mileage experienced - would appreciat
>>> it.



Elmo P. Shagnasty 11-19-2007 06:18 AM

Re: hybrid mileage
 
In article <13k1p4bpm36101f@corp.supernews.com>,
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

> >> the point is, an average car back in 1983 got the same
> >> mileage as what it takes a SPECIALLY DESIGNED car to get
> >> today.
> >>
> >> That's called moving backwards.

>
> The special design is called a larger displacement engine.


No, that special design is called a hybrid.


Gary Gorbet 11-19-2007 07:38 AM

Re: hybrid mileage
 
In article <difuj351rb43fqkgavsiou4vlktvbosfcu@4ax.com>, muzzy
<x33y55z@charter.net> wrote:

> I have a '04 Civic hybrid that I have been disappointed with the
> mileage thereof (33-34). Would you that have late model Civic
> hybrids comment on your mileage experienced - would appreciat
> it.
>

My `03 civic hybrid gets right at 40 MPG in mostly city-street driving.
I record the mileage with every tank. It gets better in the Fall and
Spring.

Spazpop2000 11-19-2007 01:04 PM

Re: hybrid mileage
 
Well, I don't know if I'd go so far as to call the Civic FE the
"average" car of 1983; I'm betting that most cars of that year (era)
weighed more, had a larger displacement engine, seated/hauled more
people/cargo...

Even if you were to narrow down your field of vehicles (like big gov
does when applying the CAFE regulations), the FE wasn't even the
"average" Civic in 1983, was it? Seems to me (and I could be wrong on
this, so forgive me if I am), the FE stands for "Fuel Efficient",
which means it had to have SOME concessions with regard to the
"average" Civic (smaller engine, smaller wheels, narrower tires, lack
of some amenities for weight savings, etc.).

I'm not knocking your car, just validating your argument. The FE was
the 80s attempt at obtaining better fuel efficiency. The hybrids of
today are approaching the same problem from a different perspective.
The important thing to remember is that, whether you agree with one
particular approach or not, the *effort* to improve mileage is to be
commended, not slammed.

If you really want to start a bragging war- I ride my bike to/from the
grocery store= INFINITY mpg (and bikes were invented long before the
FE)...



On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:04:39 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <6qydnReMpO0WG93anZ2dnUVZ_r6rnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Justbob30" <NoThank@you.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, is your 83 one of the 2 cleanest cars sold in the US & oh, yeah, does
>> it have all the modern amenities of a 07?

>
>the point is, an average car back in 1983 got the same mileage as what
>it takes a SPECIALLY DESIGNED car to get today.
>
>That's called moving backwards.



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