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Rob 03-11-2005 02:04 PM

Hyundia is now number 1?
 
Did you guys see on the news the other day how Hyundia now build the most
reliable cars in the world. Unreal!!!! Said the Hyundia Sonata has the
fewest number of problems per 100 cars by a pretty good margin. Unreal.



Tony 03-11-2005 03:03 PM

Re: Hyundia is now number 1?
 
Remeber, the Hyundai owners do not expect too much from their cars. They
consider a lot of defects and problems in their cars as normal.

Just ask any Honda or Toyota owners to drive a Mercedes and BMW and they can
find unlimited defects and problems. There is no way a Honda or Toyota owner
would say a Hyundai car is reliable. Those Hyundai owners probabaly drove
some US makes or Nissan before.



"Rob" <rdbdriver@blomand.net> wrote in message
news:d0sq3s$eoma$1@news3.infoave.net...
> Did you guys see on the news the other day how Hyundia now build the most
> reliable cars in the world. Unreal!!!! Said the Hyundia Sonata has the
> fewest number of problems per 100 cars by a pretty good margin. Unreal.
>
>




Tony 03-11-2005 03:03 PM

Re: Hyundia is now number 1?
 
Remeber, the Hyundai owners do not expect too much from their cars. They
consider a lot of defects and problems in their cars as normal.

Just ask any Honda or Toyota owners to drive a Mercedes and BMW and they can
find unlimited defects and problems. There is no way a Honda or Toyota owner
would say a Hyundai car is reliable. Those Hyundai owners probabaly drove
some US makes or Nissan before.



"Rob" <rdbdriver@blomand.net> wrote in message
news:d0sq3s$eoma$1@news3.infoave.net...
> Did you guys see on the news the other day how Hyundia now build the most
> reliable cars in the world. Unreal!!!! Said the Hyundia Sonata has the
> fewest number of problems per 100 cars by a pretty good margin. Unreal.
>
>




Randolph 03-11-2005 04:00 PM

Re: Hyundia is now number 1?
 

Rob wrote:
>
> Did you guys see on the news the other day how Hyundia now build the most
> reliable cars in the world. Unreal!!!! Said the Hyundia Sonata has the
> fewest number of problems per 100 cars by a pretty good margin. Unreal.


Where did you see this? All the surveys I found list Hyundai as having
fewer problems than other *non-Japanese* brands.
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Randolph 03-11-2005 04:00 PM

Re: Hyundia is now number 1?
 

Rob wrote:
>
> Did you guys see on the news the other day how Hyundia now build the most
> reliable cars in the world. Unreal!!!! Said the Hyundia Sonata has the
> fewest number of problems per 100 cars by a pretty good margin. Unreal.


Where did you see this? All the surveys I found list Hyundai as having
fewer problems than other *non-Japanese* brands.
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Todd 03-11-2005 04:33 PM

Re: Hyundia is now number 1?
 
I am a honda owner as a matter of fact my last several vehicles have been
Hondas. My wife is driving a 2004 Hyundai Sonata and it is a very nice
car. She is on her 2nd Hyundai and so far we have not had any problems.
Hyundai isn't the same company it was a few years ago. They are putting out
some good quality vehicles.
That is just my two cents. Let the flames begin

Todd

"Tony" <mgfks@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jQmYd.8155$C47.7790@newssvr14.news.prodigy.co m...
> Remeber, the Hyundai owners do not expect too much from their cars. They
> consider a lot of defects and problems in their cars as normal.
>
> Just ask any Honda or Toyota owners to drive a Mercedes and BMW and they

can
> find unlimited defects and problems. There is no way a Honda or Toyota

owner
> would say a Hyundai car is reliable. Those Hyundai owners probabaly drove
> some US makes or Nissan before.
>
>
>
> "Rob" <rdbdriver@blomand.net> wrote in message
> news:d0sq3s$eoma$1@news3.infoave.net...
> > Did you guys see on the news the other day how Hyundia now build the

most
> > reliable cars in the world. Unreal!!!! Said the Hyundia Sonata has the
> > fewest number of problems per 100 cars by a pretty good margin. Unreal.
> >
> >

>
>




Todd 03-11-2005 04:33 PM

Re: Hyundia is now number 1?
 
I am a honda owner as a matter of fact my last several vehicles have been
Hondas. My wife is driving a 2004 Hyundai Sonata and it is a very nice
car. She is on her 2nd Hyundai and so far we have not had any problems.
Hyundai isn't the same company it was a few years ago. They are putting out
some good quality vehicles.
That is just my two cents. Let the flames begin

Todd

"Tony" <mgfks@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jQmYd.8155$C47.7790@newssvr14.news.prodigy.co m...
> Remeber, the Hyundai owners do not expect too much from their cars. They
> consider a lot of defects and problems in their cars as normal.
>
> Just ask any Honda or Toyota owners to drive a Mercedes and BMW and they

can
> find unlimited defects and problems. There is no way a Honda or Toyota

owner
> would say a Hyundai car is reliable. Those Hyundai owners probabaly drove
> some US makes or Nissan before.
>
>
>
> "Rob" <rdbdriver@blomand.net> wrote in message
> news:d0sq3s$eoma$1@news3.infoave.net...
> > Did you guys see on the news the other day how Hyundia now build the

most
> > reliable cars in the world. Unreal!!!! Said the Hyundia Sonata has the
> > fewest number of problems per 100 cars by a pretty good margin. Unreal.
> >
> >

>
>




twfsa 03-11-2005 04:59 PM

Re: Hyundia is now number 1?
 
I know Hyundia used to be a piece of , but there quality has improved
over the years.

I don't think there resale is going to surpass Honda or Toyota, or Nissan
for that matter.

If I were to buy one, I'de have it in mind to drive it into the ground, and
not worry about re-sale.

I heard that Hyundia is going to introduce a pickup truck in the near
future, it has to be better looking than the Honda Ridgeline.

I like the Hyundia Tucson, haven't seen many on the street tho.

Tom


"Rob" <rdbdriver@blomand.net> wrote in message
news:d0sq3s$eoma$1@news3.infoave.net...
> Did you guys see on the news the other day how Hyundia now build the most
> reliable cars in the world. Unreal!!!! Said the Hyundia Sonata has the
> fewest number of problems per 100 cars by a pretty good margin. Unreal.
>




twfsa 03-11-2005 04:59 PM

Re: Hyundia is now number 1?
 
I know Hyundia used to be a piece of , but there quality has improved
over the years.

I don't think there resale is going to surpass Honda or Toyota, or Nissan
for that matter.

If I were to buy one, I'de have it in mind to drive it into the ground, and
not worry about re-sale.

I heard that Hyundia is going to introduce a pickup truck in the near
future, it has to be better looking than the Honda Ridgeline.

I like the Hyundia Tucson, haven't seen many on the street tho.

Tom


"Rob" <rdbdriver@blomand.net> wrote in message
news:d0sq3s$eoma$1@news3.infoave.net...
> Did you guys see on the news the other day how Hyundia now build the most
> reliable cars in the world. Unreal!!!! Said the Hyundia Sonata has the
> fewest number of problems per 100 cars by a pretty good margin. Unreal.
>




halo2 guy 03-11-2005 05:00 PM

Re: Hyundia is now number 1?
 
no flames here just a statement for whoever....

It seems to me that publishing a report that a 2004 model vehicle is the
most reliable vehicle is putting the cart ahead of the horse you might say.
Reliability is based upon usage over a period of time. There is not enough
of a track record to determine reliability. I wonder if it will be like
in the early 80's when Motor Trend published that a Renault (I belive) was
car of the year. I bet they would like to forget about that issue.

Also reliability does not equate to high resale value....

"Todd" <USArmy24ID@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:knoYd.17661$Sq3.16047@fe07.lga...
>I am a honda owner as a matter of fact my last several vehicles have been
> Hondas. My wife is driving a 2004 Hyundai Sonata and it is a very nice
> car. She is on her 2nd Hyundai and so far we have not had any
> problems.
> Hyundai isn't the same company it was a few years ago. They are putting
> out
> some good quality vehicles.
> That is just my two cents. Let the flames begin
>
> Todd
>
> "Tony" <mgfks@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jQmYd.8155$C47.7790@newssvr14.news.prodigy.co m...
>> Remeber, the Hyundai owners do not expect too much from their cars. They
>> consider a lot of defects and problems in their cars as normal.
>>
>> Just ask any Honda or Toyota owners to drive a Mercedes and BMW and they

> can
>> find unlimited defects and problems. There is no way a Honda or Toyota

> owner
>> would say a Hyundai car is reliable. Those Hyundai owners probabaly drove
>> some US makes or Nissan before.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rob" <rdbdriver@blomand.net> wrote in message
>> news:d0sq3s$eoma$1@news3.infoave.net...
>> > Did you guys see on the news the other day how Hyundia now build the

> most
>> > reliable cars in the world. Unreal!!!! Said the Hyundia Sonata has the
>> > fewest number of problems per 100 cars by a pretty good margin. Unreal.
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>




halo2 guy 03-11-2005 05:00 PM

Re: Hyundia is now number 1?
 
no flames here just a statement for whoever....

It seems to me that publishing a report that a 2004 model vehicle is the
most reliable vehicle is putting the cart ahead of the horse you might say.
Reliability is based upon usage over a period of time. There is not enough
of a track record to determine reliability. I wonder if it will be like
in the early 80's when Motor Trend published that a Renault (I belive) was
car of the year. I bet they would like to forget about that issue.

Also reliability does not equate to high resale value....

"Todd" <USArmy24ID@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:knoYd.17661$Sq3.16047@fe07.lga...
>I am a honda owner as a matter of fact my last several vehicles have been
> Hondas. My wife is driving a 2004 Hyundai Sonata and it is a very nice
> car. She is on her 2nd Hyundai and so far we have not had any
> problems.
> Hyundai isn't the same company it was a few years ago. They are putting
> out
> some good quality vehicles.
> That is just my two cents. Let the flames begin
>
> Todd
>
> "Tony" <mgfks@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jQmYd.8155$C47.7790@newssvr14.news.prodigy.co m...
>> Remeber, the Hyundai owners do not expect too much from their cars. They
>> consider a lot of defects and problems in their cars as normal.
>>
>> Just ask any Honda or Toyota owners to drive a Mercedes and BMW and they

> can
>> find unlimited defects and problems. There is no way a Honda or Toyota

> owner
>> would say a Hyundai car is reliable. Those Hyundai owners probabaly drove
>> some US makes or Nissan before.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rob" <rdbdriver@blomand.net> wrote in message
>> news:d0sq3s$eoma$1@news3.infoave.net...
>> > Did you guys see on the news the other day how Hyundia now build the

> most
>> > reliable cars in the world. Unreal!!!! Said the Hyundia Sonata has the
>> > fewest number of problems per 100 cars by a pretty good margin. Unreal.
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>




Michael Pardee 03-11-2005 05:30 PM

Re: Hyundia is now number 1?
 
"halo2 guy" <somewhereovethe@rainbow.com> wrote in message
news:WfudnUlambNyia_fRVn-ow@comcast.com...
> no flames here just a statement for whoever....
>
> It seems to me that publishing a report that a 2004 model vehicle is the
> most reliable vehicle is putting the cart ahead of the horse you might
> say. Reliability is based upon usage over a period of time. There is not
> enough of a track record to determine reliability.


I agree to a point. Reliability is normally what we call day-to-day
operational status; can it get me to work? But it isn't at all hard to make
a car work every day for a year. Longevity is an entirely different issue.
Honda has it in the cars built in the 80s and 90s, so we presume it is still
in the 2000s. Maybe we're wrong, maybe not.

Mike



Michael Pardee 03-11-2005 05:30 PM

Re: Hyundia is now number 1?
 
"halo2 guy" <somewhereovethe@rainbow.com> wrote in message
news:WfudnUlambNyia_fRVn-ow@comcast.com...
> no flames here just a statement for whoever....
>
> It seems to me that publishing a report that a 2004 model vehicle is the
> most reliable vehicle is putting the cart ahead of the horse you might
> say. Reliability is based upon usage over a period of time. There is not
> enough of a track record to determine reliability.


I agree to a point. Reliability is normally what we call day-to-day
operational status; can it get me to work? But it isn't at all hard to make
a car work every day for a year. Longevity is an entirely different issue.
Honda has it in the cars built in the 80s and 90s, so we presume it is still
in the 2000s. Maybe we're wrong, maybe not.

Mike



Jason 03-11-2005 08:12 PM

Re: Hyundia is now number 1?
 
In article <d0sq3s$eoma$1@news3.infoave.net>, "Rob"
<rdbdriver@blomand.net> wrote:

> Did you guys see on the news the other day how Hyundia now build the most
> reliable cars in the world. Unreal!!!! Said the Hyundia Sonata has the
> fewest number of problems per 100 cars by a pretty good margin. Unreal.


I did not see the report. I will believe that Hyundia is now up to the
standards of Honda and Toyota after it starts becoming the CAR And DRIVER
and MOTOR TREND Car of the year for at least three years out of five.
Until that happens, I'll drive a Honda Accord.

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Jason 03-11-2005 08:12 PM

Re: Hyundia is now number 1?
 
In article <d0sq3s$eoma$1@news3.infoave.net>, "Rob"
<rdbdriver@blomand.net> wrote:

> Did you guys see on the news the other day how Hyundia now build the most
> reliable cars in the world. Unreal!!!! Said the Hyundia Sonata has the
> fewest number of problems per 100 cars by a pretty good margin. Unreal.


I did not see the report. I will believe that Hyundia is now up to the
standards of Honda and Toyota after it starts becoming the CAR And DRIVER
and MOTOR TREND Car of the year for at least three years out of five.
Until that happens, I'll drive a Honda Accord.

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