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Dave and Trudy 05-14-2006 05:39 AM

Re: integras tire wear question
 

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns97C27A751C2E4jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84.. .
>I have wear on the inner halves of both my front tires(Kumho Exsta 712).
> Alignment,ball joint,or struts? Or other problem?
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net


Jim,
Definitely sounds like alignment problem. If the wear is equal all the way
around the inner circumference of the tire (no hills and valleys so to
speak), then one or two adjustment angles are out of specs. Either camber
(top of tire leaning in toward the car too much) or toe is too far out. You
didn't mention any handling quirks so I would assume that camber is the
problem, predominately. Another check is to closely examine the tire wear
and look for "feathering" toward the outer edge of the tire. Caused by the
tire sliding while it is rolling. This would indicate a toe problem. I would
have thought that you would have felt some steering and handling problem if
this was the case however. Time for an alignment. Be sure the shop
thoroughly inspects the front end for worn, wearing, or damaged parts before
doing the alignment. Cheers.

Dave D



Jim Yanik 05-14-2006 01:19 PM

Re: integras tire wear question
 
Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in
news:9Wv9g.159898$P01.141471@pd7tw3no:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in news:D8adnZ_6Tu08x_vZRVn-
>> tQ@speakeasy.net:
>>
>>
>>>Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have wear on the inner halves of both my front tires(Kumho Ecsta
>>>>712). Alignment,ball joint,or struts? Or other problem?
>>>>
>>>
>>>alignment. struts don't make that kind of wear on an integra because
>>>of the wishbones.
>>>
>>>check the bushings as well. ball joints would have to be /well/ gone
>>>to make a difference.
>>>

>>
>>
>> The car is a 1994,not hit any potholes or any thing that might knock
>> out alignment,mileage is 56,000 mi.,car lived entire life in Florida
>> heat. I do like to corner hard.
>>
>> I could see bushings getting old considering the heat here.

>
> Is it lowered? Aftermarket or cut springs perhaps? Doing that without
> properly compensating will create enormous negative camber and cause
> that kind of nasty inner tire wear.
>


suspension is as stock as it was the day I brought it home from the dealer.
the back tires look new,only 20K miles on them,the fronts have about 3" of
bald area on the inside,outside is worn to the wear indicators.
I'm going to get the front suspension looked at.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 05-14-2006 01:19 PM

Re: integras tire wear question
 
Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in
news:9Wv9g.159898$P01.141471@pd7tw3no:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in news:D8adnZ_6Tu08x_vZRVn-
>> tQ@speakeasy.net:
>>
>>
>>>Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have wear on the inner halves of both my front tires(Kumho Ecsta
>>>>712). Alignment,ball joint,or struts? Or other problem?
>>>>
>>>
>>>alignment. struts don't make that kind of wear on an integra because
>>>of the wishbones.
>>>
>>>check the bushings as well. ball joints would have to be /well/ gone
>>>to make a difference.
>>>

>>
>>
>> The car is a 1994,not hit any potholes or any thing that might knock
>> out alignment,mileage is 56,000 mi.,car lived entire life in Florida
>> heat. I do like to corner hard.
>>
>> I could see bushings getting old considering the heat here.

>
> Is it lowered? Aftermarket or cut springs perhaps? Doing that without
> properly compensating will create enormous negative camber and cause
> that kind of nasty inner tire wear.
>


suspension is as stock as it was the day I brought it home from the dealer.
the back tires look new,only 20K miles on them,the fronts have about 3" of
bald area on the inside,outside is worn to the wear indicators.
I'm going to get the front suspension looked at.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 05-14-2006 01:19 PM

Re: integras tire wear question
 
Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in
news:9Wv9g.159898$P01.141471@pd7tw3no:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in news:D8adnZ_6Tu08x_vZRVn-
>> tQ@speakeasy.net:
>>
>>
>>>Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have wear on the inner halves of both my front tires(Kumho Ecsta
>>>>712). Alignment,ball joint,or struts? Or other problem?
>>>>
>>>
>>>alignment. struts don't make that kind of wear on an integra because
>>>of the wishbones.
>>>
>>>check the bushings as well. ball joints would have to be /well/ gone
>>>to make a difference.
>>>

>>
>>
>> The car is a 1994,not hit any potholes or any thing that might knock
>> out alignment,mileage is 56,000 mi.,car lived entire life in Florida
>> heat. I do like to corner hard.
>>
>> I could see bushings getting old considering the heat here.

>
> Is it lowered? Aftermarket or cut springs perhaps? Doing that without
> properly compensating will create enormous negative camber and cause
> that kind of nasty inner tire wear.
>


suspension is as stock as it was the day I brought it home from the dealer.
the back tires look new,only 20K miles on them,the fronts have about 3" of
bald area on the inside,outside is worn to the wear indicators.
I'm going to get the front suspension looked at.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Matt Ion 05-14-2006 07:24 PM

Re: integras tire wear question
 
Jim Yanik wrote:
> Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in
> news:9Wv9g.159898$P01.141471@pd7tw3no:
>
>
>>Jim Yanik wrote:
>>
>>>jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in news:D8adnZ_6Tu08x_vZRVn-
>>>tQ@speakeasy.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have wear on the inner halves of both my front tires(Kumho Ecsta
>>>>>712). Alignment,ball joint,or struts? Or other problem?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>alignment. struts don't make that kind of wear on an integra because
>>>>of the wishbones.
>>>>
>>>>check the bushings as well. ball joints would have to be /well/ gone
>>>>to make a difference.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The car is a 1994,not hit any potholes or any thing that might knock
>>>out alignment,mileage is 56,000 mi.,car lived entire life in Florida
>>>heat. I do like to corner hard.
>>>
>>>I could see bushings getting old considering the heat here.

>>
>>Is it lowered? Aftermarket or cut springs perhaps? Doing that without
>>properly compensating will create enormous negative camber and cause
>>that kind of nasty inner tire wear.
>>

>
>
> suspension is as stock as it was the day I brought it home from the dealer.
> the back tires look new,only 20K miles on them,the fronts have about 3" of
> bald area on the inside,outside is worn to the wear indicators.
> I'm going to get the front suspension looked at.


Sounds like a definite camber problem... and definitely time to replace
the tires anyway, if you're down to the wear indicators. Get the
alignment checked and new tires put on all in one shot.

Oh, and despite the apparent good wear condition of the back tires,
you'll want to MAKE SURE they do a four-wheel alignment; it costs a
little more, but is critical on cars with four-wheel independant
suspension to ensure alignment is correct all the way around. Also, you
should consider rotating your tires on a regular basis, as front and
rear tires tires WILL wear differently, especially on a front-wheel
drive car; regular rotation will prevent one set from wearing out
significantly faster than the other, and give you more overall tire life.




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Matt Ion 05-14-2006 07:24 PM

Re: integras tire wear question
 
Jim Yanik wrote:
> Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in
> news:9Wv9g.159898$P01.141471@pd7tw3no:
>
>
>>Jim Yanik wrote:
>>
>>>jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in news:D8adnZ_6Tu08x_vZRVn-
>>>tQ@speakeasy.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have wear on the inner halves of both my front tires(Kumho Ecsta
>>>>>712). Alignment,ball joint,or struts? Or other problem?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>alignment. struts don't make that kind of wear on an integra because
>>>>of the wishbones.
>>>>
>>>>check the bushings as well. ball joints would have to be /well/ gone
>>>>to make a difference.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The car is a 1994,not hit any potholes or any thing that might knock
>>>out alignment,mileage is 56,000 mi.,car lived entire life in Florida
>>>heat. I do like to corner hard.
>>>
>>>I could see bushings getting old considering the heat here.

>>
>>Is it lowered? Aftermarket or cut springs perhaps? Doing that without
>>properly compensating will create enormous negative camber and cause
>>that kind of nasty inner tire wear.
>>

>
>
> suspension is as stock as it was the day I brought it home from the dealer.
> the back tires look new,only 20K miles on them,the fronts have about 3" of
> bald area on the inside,outside is worn to the wear indicators.
> I'm going to get the front suspension looked at.


Sounds like a definite camber problem... and definitely time to replace
the tires anyway, if you're down to the wear indicators. Get the
alignment checked and new tires put on all in one shot.

Oh, and despite the apparent good wear condition of the back tires,
you'll want to MAKE SURE they do a four-wheel alignment; it costs a
little more, but is critical on cars with four-wheel independant
suspension to ensure alignment is correct all the way around. Also, you
should consider rotating your tires on a regular basis, as front and
rear tires tires WILL wear differently, especially on a front-wheel
drive car; regular rotation will prevent one set from wearing out
significantly faster than the other, and give you more overall tire life.




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Matt Ion 05-14-2006 07:24 PM

Re: integras tire wear question
 
Jim Yanik wrote:
> Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in
> news:9Wv9g.159898$P01.141471@pd7tw3no:
>
>
>>Jim Yanik wrote:
>>
>>>jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in news:D8adnZ_6Tu08x_vZRVn-
>>>tQ@speakeasy.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have wear on the inner halves of both my front tires(Kumho Ecsta
>>>>>712). Alignment,ball joint,or struts? Or other problem?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>alignment. struts don't make that kind of wear on an integra because
>>>>of the wishbones.
>>>>
>>>>check the bushings as well. ball joints would have to be /well/ gone
>>>>to make a difference.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The car is a 1994,not hit any potholes or any thing that might knock
>>>out alignment,mileage is 56,000 mi.,car lived entire life in Florida
>>>heat. I do like to corner hard.
>>>
>>>I could see bushings getting old considering the heat here.

>>
>>Is it lowered? Aftermarket or cut springs perhaps? Doing that without
>>properly compensating will create enormous negative camber and cause
>>that kind of nasty inner tire wear.
>>

>
>
> suspension is as stock as it was the day I brought it home from the dealer.
> the back tires look new,only 20K miles on them,the fronts have about 3" of
> bald area on the inside,outside is worn to the wear indicators.
> I'm going to get the front suspension looked at.


Sounds like a definite camber problem... and definitely time to replace
the tires anyway, if you're down to the wear indicators. Get the
alignment checked and new tires put on all in one shot.

Oh, and despite the apparent good wear condition of the back tires,
you'll want to MAKE SURE they do a four-wheel alignment; it costs a
little more, but is critical on cars with four-wheel independant
suspension to ensure alignment is correct all the way around. Also, you
should consider rotating your tires on a regular basis, as front and
rear tires tires WILL wear differently, especially on a front-wheel
drive car; regular rotation will prevent one set from wearing out
significantly faster than the other, and give you more overall tire life.




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