Mike

Our 1999 Odyssey has been shocking the heck out of us all winter.
We've had this vehicle for a few years now and I never remember it
being this bad. I just ordered a "stop shock" grounding strap from
eBay. I'm hoping this will help a lot. I called all the local auto-
parts stores and not one of them carried this item.

Anyhow, have any of you had luck with grounding straps?

Mike

motsco_

Mike wrote:
> Our 1999 Odyssey has been shocking the heck out of us all winter.
> We've had this vehicle for a few years now and I never remember it
> being this bad. I just ordered a "stop shock" grounding strap from
> eBay. I'm hoping this will help a lot. I called all the local auto-
> parts stores and not one of them carried this item.
>
> Anyhow, have any of you had luck with grounding straps?
>
> Mike

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You might have more luck spraying the seat covers with a staticide, or
by wearing a different pair of pants / jacket.

'Curly'

Jim Yanik

motsco_ <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in
news:12u91as7k06obab@corp.supernews.com:

> Mike wrote:
>> Our 1999 Odyssey has been shocking the heck out of us all winter.
>> We've had this vehicle for a few years now and I never remember it
>> being this bad. I just ordered a "stop shock" grounding strap from
>> eBay. I'm hoping this will help a lot. I called all the local auto-
>> parts stores and not one of them carried this item.
>>
>> Anyhow, have any of you had luck with grounding straps?
>>
>> Mike
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> You might have more luck spraying the seat covers with a staticide, or
> by wearing a different pair of pants / jacket.
>
> 'Curly'
>

yes,the charge buildup is on YOU,not the car.
I just brush my knuckle against the door frame.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
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Michael Pardee

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> motsco_ <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in
> news:12u91as7k06obab@corp.supernews.com:
>
>> Mike wrote:
>>> Our 1999 Odyssey has been shocking the heck out of us all winter.
>>> We've had this vehicle for a few years now and I never remember it
>>> being this bad. I just ordered a "stop shock" grounding strap from
>>> eBay. I'm hoping this will help a lot. I called all the local auto-
>>> parts stores and not one of them carried this item.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, have any of you had luck with grounding straps?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> You might have more luck spraying the seat covers with a staticide, or
>> by wearing a different pair of pants / jacket.
>>
>> 'Curly'
>>
>
> yes,the charge buildup is on YOU,not the car.
> I just brush my knuckle against the door frame.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net

I agree, too. Drain straps were fairly common in the 60s to stop static
popping in AM radios. I think carbon additives in tires mostly put a stop to
that.

I've used antistatic sprays on the driver's seat before, and it helps for a
day or two. I even got tired of brushing my knuckle against the latch, so I
just live with the ZAP.

Mike

Tegger

"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
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> Drain straps were fairly common in the 60s to stop
> static popping in AM radios. I think carbon additives in tires mostly
> put a stop to that.



Carbon has been added to tires since about 1920. Carbon is what makes tires
black. Absent carbon, tires are WHITE.

Carbon (soot) was added to automotive tires to prevent decomposition due to
ultraviolet radiation. It had nothing at all to do with electricity.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

jim beam

Mike wrote:
> Our 1999 Odyssey has been shocking the heck out of us all winter.
> We've had this vehicle for a few years now and I never remember it
> being this bad. I just ordered a "stop shock" grounding strap from
> eBay. I'm hoping this will help a lot. I called all the local auto-
> parts stores and not one of them carried this item.
>
> Anyhow, have any of you had luck with grounding straps?
>
> Mike
>
try a new alternator belt from bando. anti-static.

Michael Pardee

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:gomdnekq3vCgnHjYnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Mike wrote:
>> Our 1999 Odyssey has been shocking the heck out of us all winter.
>> We've had this vehicle for a few years now and I never remember it
>> being this bad. I just ordered a "stop shock" grounding strap from
>> eBay. I'm hoping this will help a lot. I called all the local auto-
>> parts stores and not one of them carried this item.
>>
>> Anyhow, have any of you had luck with grounding straps?
>>
>> Mike
>>
> try a new alternator belt from bando. anti-static.

Now you've got me curious - doesn't the alternator belt just run from one
grounded pulley to another?

jim beam

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:gomdnekq3vCgnHjYnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Mike wrote:
>>> Our 1999 Odyssey has been shocking the heck out of us all winter.
>>> We've had this vehicle for a few years now and I never remember it
>>> being this bad. I just ordered a "stop shock" grounding strap from
>>> eBay. I'm hoping this will help a lot. I called all the local auto-
>>> parts stores and not one of them carried this item.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, have any of you had luck with grounding straps?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>> try a new alternator belt from bando. anti-static.
>
> Now you've got me curious - doesn't the alternator belt just run from one
> grounded pulley to another?
>
>
that's what i'da thunk, but my 89 used to jolt me until i put on that
belt. it's got "anti-static, oil & heat resistant" written on it -
didn't order it specially. and i'm reporting the result!

Michael Pardee

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:gomdnekq3vCgnHjYnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>> Mike wrote:
>>>> Our 1999 Odyssey has been shocking the heck out of us all winter.
>>>> We've had this vehicle for a few years now and I never remember it
>>>> being this bad. I just ordered a "stop shock" grounding strap from
>>>> eBay. I'm hoping this will help a lot. I called all the local auto-
>>>> parts stores and not one of them carried this item.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, have any of you had luck with grounding straps?
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>> try a new alternator belt from bando. anti-static.
>>
>> Now you've got me curious - doesn't the alternator belt just run from one
>> grounded pulley to another?
>>
>>
> that's what i'da thunk, but my 89 used to jolt me until i put on that
> belt. it's got "anti-static, oil & heat resistant" written on it - didn't
> order it specially. and i'm reporting the result!

Strange but true, I guess! Definitely worth a try.

Mike

Howard Lester

"Jim Yanik" wrote

> yes,the charge buildup is on YOU,not the car.
> I just brush my knuckle against the door frame.

Good plan - works every time. For me, the, uh, shock value is strictly SHOE
dependent. I have one pair that just jolts the crap out of me when I get out
of the car unless I hold onto the door jamb latch with my right hand's
fingers as I exit the car. (There is no shock when I wear real leather dress
shoes.) As long as I hold onto that latch when exiting, I receive no shocks
whatsoever under any circumstances with any clothing in any season. I live
in the desert southwest where it's really dry, and that dryness probably
exacerbates the issue. So if that method works here, it should work
anywhere.

Jim Yanik

"Howard Lester" <heylester@dakotacom.net> wrote in
news:12ucd05j7ro8403@corp.supernews.com:

> "Jim Yanik" wrote
>
>> yes,the charge buildup is on YOU,not the car.
>> I just brush my knuckle against the door frame.
>
> Good plan - works every time. For me, the, uh, shock value is strictly
> SHOE dependent.

I don't know why;leather soles insulate fairly well,and the static
discharge is to the auto chassis,not to ground.
Unless your leather soles are really damp(and electrically leaky).
I wouldn't depend on that pair when working on anything electric.

> I have one pair that just jolts the crap out of me
> when I get out of the car unless I hold onto the door jamb latch with
> my right hand's fingers as I exit the car. (There is no shock when I
> wear real leather dress shoes.) As long as I hold onto that latch when
> exiting, I receive no shocks whatsoever under any circumstances with
> any clothing in any season.

That is because you drain off the charge -as it is generated- by your butt
sliding across the seat. Now,with the insulating shoes,try to not touch the
chassis and instead brush your knuckles against the ground and see if you
still get a shock;I doubt you will.

> I live in the desert southwest where it's
> really dry, and that dryness probably exacerbates the issue. So if
> that method works here, it should work anywhere.
>
>
>
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik

"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
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> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:baOdnS98H6NMGnjYnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>>> news:gomdnekq3vCgnHjYnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>>> Mike wrote:
>>>>> Our 1999 Odyssey has been shocking the heck out of us all winter.
>>>>> We've had this vehicle for a few years now and I never remember it
>>>>> being this bad. I just ordered a "stop shock" grounding strap
>>>>> from eBay. I'm hoping this will help a lot. I called all the
>>>>> local auto- parts stores and not one of them carried this item.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow, have any of you had luck with grounding straps?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>> try a new alternator belt from bando. anti-static.
>>>
>>> Now you've got me curious - doesn't the alternator belt just run
>>> from one grounded pulley to another?
>>>
>>>
>> that's what i'da thunk, but my 89 used to jolt me until i put on that
>> belt. it's got "anti-static, oil & heat resistant" written on it -
>> didn't order it specially. and i'm reporting the result!
>
> Strange but true, I guess! Definitely worth a try.
>
> Mike
>
>
>

Static builds up on your body from sliding your butt across the fabric
seat,as you exit.
There's no way an alternator belt in the engine compartment would discharge
your body charge.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

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I got into the habit of holding the door frame as I touched the ground
getting out of the vehicle.

No more sparky....

t

Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>>>> Our 1999 Odyssey has been shocking the heck out of us all winter.
>>>>>> We've had this vehicle for a few years now and I never remember it
>[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>>
>> Mike
>
>Static builds up on your body from sliding your butt across the fabric
>seat,as you exit.
>There's no way an alternator belt in the engine compartment would discharge
>your body charge.
>

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jim beam

Jim Yanik wrote:
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
> news5-dnZszfuwcT3jYnZ2dnUVZ_tyinZ2d@sedona.net:
>
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:baOdnS98H6NMGnjYnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:gomdnekq3vCgnHjYnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>>>> Mike wrote:
>>>>>> Our 1999 Odyssey has been shocking the heck out of us all winter.
>>>>>> We've had this vehicle for a few years now and I never remember it
>>>>>> being this bad. I just ordered a "stop shock" grounding strap
>>>>>> from eBay. I'm hoping this will help a lot. I called all the
>>>>>> local auto- parts stores and not one of them carried this item.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyhow, have any of you had luck with grounding straps?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>> try a new alternator belt from bando. anti-static.
>>>> Now you've got me curious - doesn't the alternator belt just run
>>>> from one grounded pulley to another?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> that's what i'da thunk, but my 89 used to jolt me until i put on that
>>> belt. it's got "anti-static, oil & heat resistant" written on it -
>>> didn't order it specially. and i'm reporting the result!
>> Strange but true, I guess! Definitely worth a try.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>
> Static builds up on your body from sliding your butt across the fabric
> seat,as you exit.
> There's no way an alternator belt in the engine compartment would discharge
> your body charge.
>
how is the alternator belt different from the belt in a van de graaff?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_de_Graaff_generator

Speedy Pete

If you want to fix the problem you will have to spend LOTS of
money....... for new tires! This problem was noticed in the 90's when
toll booth operators were getting zapped big time when getting tolls
from drivers. It was blamed on the newer compounding that included more
silica in the formula instead of just using cheap carbon black for filer.

Actually I hope the addition of just a strap solves your problem.

-SP

Mike wrote:
> Our 1999 Odyssey has been shocking the heck out of us all winter.
> We've had this vehicle for a few years now and I never remember it
> being this bad. I just ordered a "stop shock" grounding strap from
> eBay. I'm hoping this will help a lot. I called all the local auto-
> parts stores and not one of them carried this item.
>
> Anyhow, have any of you had luck with grounding straps?
>
> Mike
>