K&N on 01 Civic experience
 

Friends,

I've recently installed a K&N cold air intake system on my 01 Civic EX (with
5 spd) and can't believe the increase in feul economy. My mpg has increased
about 25 to 33%. Previously, I was getting about 36mpg, now is about 40mpg.
The only thing I don't like is that the kit is way overpriced.

Has anyone else experience this?

Re: K&N on 01 Civic experience
 

"t" <vidyang@verizon.net> wrote in news:dDiRe.12077$qg2.9171@trnddc05:

> Friends,
>
> I've recently installed a K&N cold air intake system on my 01 Civic EX
> (with 5 spd) and can't believe the increase in feul economy. My mpg
> has increased about 25 to 33%.



Yeah, right.

Show me your raw numbers.


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Re: K&N on 01 Civic experience
 

I dont buy it. You have fallen for aftermarket air filter propaganda. Read
the air filter test results and see how much more dirt they allow into the
engine. You must like the noise it makes.

Re: K&N on 01 Civic experience
 

I look to see the total number of miles driven since the last fill up
divided by the number of gallons I put in to fill the tank up again.


"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "t" <vidyang@verizon.net> wrote in news:dDiRe.12077$qg2.9171@trnddc05:
>
>> Friends,
>>
>> I've recently installed a K&N cold air intake system on my 01 Civic EX
>> (with 5 spd) and can't believe the increase in feul economy. My mpg
>> has increased about 25 to 33%.
>
>
>
> Yeah, right.
>
> Show me your raw numbers.
>
>
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>
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Re: K&N on 01 Civic experience
 

why do you k&n people publish such lies?
the stock heated air filtration system provides more than adequate air flow
and the warmed air aids in fuel vaporation.

"t" <vidyang@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Friends,
>
> I've recently installed a K&N cold air intake system on my 01 Civic EX
(with
> 5 spd) and can't believe the increase in feul economy. My mpg has
increased
> about 25 to 33%. Previously, I was getting about 36mpg, now is about
40mpg.
> The only thing I don't like is that the kit is way overpriced.
>
> Has anyone else experience this?
>
>

Re: K&N on 01 Civic experience
 

I installed a drop in K&N on my 98 civic at about 80000kms. I'm now at
229000kms with the same filter. I noticed the following differences:

1. My car sounded different, i like the sound but whatever
2. better throttle reponse
3. marginal power improvement
4. marginal but noticeable fuel economy gain

I have put a factory filter in since, just to see if i was delusional. the
differences above are actual changes. Now whether the extra dirt that gets
in the motor (according to the reports tegger showed us) is worth all this,
is questionable.

So far, my car has lasted and performed above my expectations. There may be
more wear, but I can't tell. In my mind, I like the idea of not having to
throw out the air filter. Instead I clean and oil it about every 50000kms.

I may switch back to OEM yet if I see more reports like that.
t

TeGGeR® wrote:
>> Friends,
>>
>> I've recently installed a K&N cold air intake system on my 01 Civic EX
>> (with 5 spd) and can't believe the increase in feul economy. My mpg
>> has increased about 25 to 33%.
>
>Yeah, right.
>
>Show me your raw numbers.
>


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Re: K&N on 01 Civic experience
 

> 1. My car sounded different, i like the sound but whatever
I notice a difference in sound too, but only when the windows and roof are
closed, radio off and inside air vents closed which is not very often.

> 2. better throttle reponse
Agree

> 3. marginal power improvement
Agree, but only when engine is warm. When engine is cold, power is reduced.

> 4. marginal but noticeable fuel economy gain
I noticed a big gain. Perhaps my feul gauge is bad.

"T L via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
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>I installed a drop in K&N on my 98 civic at about 80000kms. I'm now at
> 229000kms with the same filter. I noticed the following differences:
>
> 1. My car sounded different, i like the sound but whatever
> 2. better throttle reponse
> 3. marginal power improvement
> 4. marginal but noticeable fuel economy gain
>
> I have put a factory filter in since, just to see if i was delusional.
> the
> differences above are actual changes. Now whether the extra dirt that
> gets
> in the motor (according to the reports tegger showed us) is worth all
> this,
> is questionable.
>
> So far, my car has lasted and performed above my expectations. There may
> be
> more wear, but I can't tell. In my mind, I like the idea of not having to
> throw out the air filter. Instead I clean and oil it about every
> 50000kms.
>
> I may switch back to OEM yet if I see more reports like that.
> t
>
> TeGGeR® wrote:
>>> Friends,
>>>
>>> I've recently installed a K&N cold air intake system on my 01 Civic EX
>>> (with 5 spd) and can't believe the increase in feul economy. My mpg
>>> has increased about 25 to 33%.
>>
>>Yeah, right.
>>
>>Show me your raw numbers.
>>
>
>
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Re: K&N on 01 Civic experience
 

> why do you k&n people publish such lies?
Is it a lie, when one discusses their own observation? Isn't this a
discussion board where we contribute our ideas and experiences. You're a
prude.


"I'm Right" <ImRight@urWrong.net> wrote in message
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> why do you k&n people publish such lies?
> the stock heated air filtration system provides more than adequate air
> flow
> and the warmed air aids in fuel vaporation.
>
> "t" <vidyang@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:dDiRe.12077$qg2.9171@trnddc05...
>> Friends,
>>
>> I've recently installed a K&N cold air intake system on my 01 Civic EX
> (with
>> 5 spd) and can't believe the increase in feul economy. My mpg has
> increased
>> about 25 to 33%. Previously, I was getting about 36mpg, now is about
> 40mpg.
>> The only thing I don't like is that the kit is way overpriced.
>>
>> Has anyone else experience this?
>>
>>
>
>

Re: K&N on 01 Civic experience
 

Fuel economy needs to be tracked over several tanks of gas. Also, different
gas pumps at the station will fill to different levels. Sometimes they leave
alot of room at the top of the tank, others fill it til it gushes out of the
filler neck. best way to measure is to drive a certain number of kms, and
fill up til the first click or so. And use the same pump at the same gas
station.

t

t wrote:
>> 1. My car sounded different, i like the sound but whatever
>I notice a difference in sound too, but only when the windows and roof are
>closed, radio off and inside air vents closed which is not very often.
>
>> 2. better throttle reponse
>Agree
>
>> 3. marginal power improvement
>Agree, but only when engine is warm. When engine is cold, power is reduced.
>
>> 4. marginal but noticeable fuel economy gain
>I noticed a big gain. Perhaps my feul gauge is bad.
>
>>I installed a drop in K&N on my 98 civic at about 80000kms. I'm now at
>> 229000kms with the same filter. I noticed the following differences:
>[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>>>
>>>Show me your raw numbers.


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Re: K&N on 01 Civic experience
 

My car makes a cool whistling noise at about 4800 rpms with the K&N. It
makes it sound like I have a turbo. hee hee.

t wrote:
>> 1. My car sounded different, i like the sound but whatever
>I notice a difference in sound too, but only when the windows and roof are
>closed, radio off and inside air vents closed which is not very often.
>
>> 2. better throttle reponse
>Agree
>
>> 3. marginal power improvement
>Agree, but only when engine is warm. When engine is cold, power is reduced.
>
>> 4. marginal but noticeable fuel economy gain
>I noticed a big gain. Perhaps my feul gauge is bad.
>
>>I installed a drop in K&N on my 98 civic at about 80000kms. I'm now at
>> 229000kms with the same filter. I noticed the following differences:
>[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>>>
>>>Show me your raw numbers.


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Re: K&N on 01 Civic experience
 

"t" <vidyang@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Friends,
>
> I've recently installed a K&N cold air intake system on my 01 Civic EX
> (with 5 spd) and can't believe the increase in feul economy. My mpg has
> increased about 25 to 33%. Previously, I was getting about 36mpg, now is
> about 40mpg.

That is an 11% increase.

Re: K&N on 01 Civic experience
 

"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in
news:MdCdnZ2dnZ2ll87DnZ2dnTSzi96dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@rogers.com:

>
> "t" <vidyang@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:dDiRe.12077$qg2.9171@trnddc05...
>> Friends,
>>
>> I've recently installed a K&N cold air intake system on my 01 Civic
>> EX (with 5 spd) and can't believe the increase in feul economy. My
>> mpg has increased about 25 to 33%. Previously, I was getting about
>> 36mpg, now is about 40mpg.
>
> That is an 11% increase.
>
>
>


And we've seen no raw numbers yet.

I can supply raw numbers on my mileage, why can't he?

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Re: K&N on 01 Civic experience
 

"t" <vidyang@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:dDiRe.12077$qg2.9171@trnddc05...
> Friends,
>
> I've recently installed a K&N cold air intake system on my 01 Civic EX
(with
> 5 spd) and can't believe the increase in feul economy. My mpg has
increased
> about 25 to 33%. Previously, I was getting about 36mpg, now is about
40mpg.
> The only thing I don't like is that the kit is way overpriced.
>
> Has anyone else experience this?
>
>
Tried a K&N air filter on my 01 Prelude. No improvement in mileage. If
there was a performance gain it was virtually unoticeable. But, I did get a
driveability problem which went away when I returned to the stock Honda
filter.

Re: K&N on 01 Civic experience
 

"t" <vidyang@verizon.net> wrote in message
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<snip>
>> 4. marginal but noticeable fuel economy gain
> I noticed a big gain. Perhaps my feul gauge is bad.
>
I think it goes without saying that if you experienced a significant gain
the filter you took out was in pretty bad shape - one way or another.
(That's a common way of troubleshooting problems - by substituting a known
good part.) Intake filters can't improve performance or economy or throttle
response at all, only reduce those by restricting air flow. The idea is to
restrict flow of air as little as possible while preventing dirt from
getting into the engine.

Mike

Re: K&N on 01 Civic experience
 

"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
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> "t" <vidyang@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:zAnRe.12115$qg2.8653@trnddc05...
><snip>
>>> 4. marginal but noticeable fuel economy gain
>> I noticed a big gain. Perhaps my feul gauge is bad.
>>
> I think it goes without saying that if you experienced a significant
> gain the filter you took out was in pretty bad shape - one way or
> another. (That's a common way of troubleshooting problems - by
> substituting a known good part.) Intake filters can't improve
> performance or economy or throttle response at all, only reduce those
> by restricting air flow. The idea is to restrict flow of air as little
> as possible while preventing dirt from getting into the engine.
>
> Mike
>
>
>

But a cold air intake DOES reduce intake restriction,and also gives a
cooler,denser air charge.
Honda Tuning Magazine did dyno and flow bench tests,and both CAIs tested
gave a 20HP increase on an RSX,and increased torque.

IIRC,the OP installed a CAI,not just a K&N filter.

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