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Last Update - 93 Honda overheating - Ground problem?
Again, thanks for your inputs.
I have followed the Honda repair procedure for both the condensor fan and radiator fans not working. I have checked all the continuity between all the points it suggests and have checked the fans and even the diode. All checked out okay. The next thing it says to do is to check continuity of the black wire connecting the radiator fan control module (timer module) and ground. I SEEM TO HAVE AN OPEN CIRCUIT!!!!! According to the manual...if I had continuity, this would lead one to conclude that the module had failed. BUT.....I don't have continuity so it just says to "fix" the grounding problem. At this point I am lost because there are so many damn grounds on this car! However....I did check the main ground coming off the negative terminal of the battery and I would estimate that at least half of the wires have broken off the connector that is bolted to the engine block. I realize that this is an issue and should be fixed, but could this be my problem? This ground must impact every ground on the car....everything else seems to be working correctly? Thanks, Bill |
Re: Last Update - 93 Honda overheating - Ground problem?
"WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in
news:15qIb.92999$UY6.48426@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > Again, thanks for your inputs. > > I have followed the Honda repair procedure for both the condensor fan > and radiator fans not working. I have checked all the continuity > between all the points it suggests and have checked the fans and even > the diode. All checked out okay. The next thing it says to do is to > check continuity of the black wire connecting the radiator fan control > module (timer module) and ground. I SEEM TO HAVE AN OPEN CIRCUIT!!!!! > According to the manual...if I had continuity, this would lead one > to conclude that the module had failed. BUT.....I don't have > continuity so it just says to "fix" the grounding problem. At this > point I am lost because there are so many damn grounds on this car! > > However....I did check the main ground coming off the negative > terminal of the battery and I would estimate that at least half of the > wires have broken off the connector that is bolted to the engine > block. I realize that this is an issue and should be fixed, but could > this be my problem? This ground must impact every ground on the > car....everything else seems to be working correctly? > > Thanks, > Bill > > > Look at the grounds that connect the radiator mountings to the chassis or block.There's a ground cable from the front of my Integra to the block,perhaps more than one. -- Jim Yanik jyanik-at-kua.net |
Re: Last Update - 93 Honda overheating - Ground problem?
"WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in
news:15qIb.92999$UY6.48426@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > Again, thanks for your inputs. > > I have followed the Honda repair procedure for both the condensor fan > and radiator fans not working. I have checked all the continuity > between all the points it suggests and have checked the fans and even > the diode. All checked out okay. The next thing it says to do is to > check continuity of the black wire connecting the radiator fan control > module (timer module) and ground. I SEEM TO HAVE AN OPEN CIRCUIT!!!!! > According to the manual...if I had continuity, this would lead one > to conclude that the module had failed. BUT.....I don't have > continuity so it just says to "fix" the grounding problem. At this > point I am lost because there are so many damn grounds on this car! > > However....I did check the main ground coming off the negative > terminal of the battery and I would estimate that at least half of the > wires have broken off the connector that is bolted to the engine > block. I realize that this is an issue and should be fixed, but could > this be my problem? This ground must impact every ground on the > car....everything else seems to be working correctly? > > Thanks, > Bill > > > Look at the grounds that connect the radiator mountings to the chassis or block.There's a ground cable from the front of my Integra to the block,perhaps more than one. -- Jim Yanik jyanik-at-kua.net |
Re: Last Update - 93 Honda overheating - Ground problem?
"WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in
news:15qIb.92999$UY6.48426@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > Again, thanks for your inputs. > > I have followed the Honda repair procedure for both the condensor fan > and radiator fans not working. I have checked all the continuity > between all the points it suggests and have checked the fans and even > the diode. All checked out okay. The next thing it says to do is to > check continuity of the black wire connecting the radiator fan control > module (timer module) and ground. I SEEM TO HAVE AN OPEN CIRCUIT!!!!! > According to the manual...if I had continuity, this would lead one > to conclude that the module had failed. BUT.....I don't have > continuity so it just says to "fix" the grounding problem. At this > point I am lost because there are so many damn grounds on this car! > > However....I did check the main ground coming off the negative > terminal of the battery and I would estimate that at least half of the > wires have broken off the connector that is bolted to the engine > block. I realize that this is an issue and should be fixed, but could > this be my problem? This ground must impact every ground on the > car....everything else seems to be working correctly? > > Thanks, > Bill > > > Look at the grounds that connect the radiator mountings to the chassis or block.There's a ground cable from the front of my Integra to the block,perhaps more than one. -- Jim Yanik jyanik-at-kua.net |
Re: Last Update - 93 Honda overheating - Ground problem?
"WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in
news:15qIb.92999$UY6.48426@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > Again, thanks for your inputs. > > I have followed the Honda repair procedure for both the condensor fan > and radiator fans not working. I have checked all the continuity > between all the points it suggests and have checked the fans and even > the diode. All checked out okay. The next thing it says to do is to > check continuity of the black wire connecting the radiator fan control > module (timer module) and ground. I SEEM TO HAVE AN OPEN CIRCUIT!!!!! > According to the manual...if I had continuity, this would lead one > to conclude that the module had failed. BUT.....I don't have > continuity so it just says to "fix" the grounding problem. At this > point I am lost because there are so many damn grounds on this car! > > However....I did check the main ground coming off the negative > terminal of the battery and I would estimate that at least half of the > wires have broken off the connector that is bolted to the engine > block. I realize that this is an issue and should be fixed, but could > this be my problem? This ground must impact every ground on the > car....everything else seems to be working correctly? > > Thanks, > Bill > > > Look at the grounds that connect the radiator mountings to the chassis or block.There's a ground cable from the front of my Integra to the block,perhaps more than one. -- Jim Yanik jyanik-at-kua.net |
Re: Last Update - 93 Honda overheating - Ground problem?
I would just fix what is obviously broken and then worry about whether or
not it fixed the problem. CaptainKrunch "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message news:Xns9461D9266A327jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21.. . > "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in > news:15qIb.92999$UY6.48426@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > > > Again, thanks for your inputs. > > > > I have followed the Honda repair procedure for both the condensor fan > > and radiator fans not working. I have checked all the continuity > > between all the points it suggests and have checked the fans and even > > the diode. All checked out okay. The next thing it says to do is to > > check continuity of the black wire connecting the radiator fan control > > module (timer module) and ground. I SEEM TO HAVE AN OPEN CIRCUIT!!!!! > > According to the manual...if I had continuity, this would lead one > > to conclude that the module had failed. BUT.....I don't have > > continuity so it just says to "fix" the grounding problem. At this > > point I am lost because there are so many damn grounds on this car! > > > > However....I did check the main ground coming off the negative > > terminal of the battery and I would estimate that at least half of the > > wires have broken off the connector that is bolted to the engine > > block. I realize that this is an issue and should be fixed, but could > > this be my problem? This ground must impact every ground on the > > car....everything else seems to be working correctly? > > > > Thanks, > > Bill > > > > > > > > Look at the grounds that connect the radiator mountings to the chassis or > block.There's a ground cable from the front of my Integra to the > block,perhaps more than one. > > -- > Jim Yanik > jyanik-at-kua.net |
Re: Last Update - 93 Honda overheating - Ground problem?
I would just fix what is obviously broken and then worry about whether or
not it fixed the problem. CaptainKrunch "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message news:Xns9461D9266A327jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21.. . > "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in > news:15qIb.92999$UY6.48426@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > > > Again, thanks for your inputs. > > > > I have followed the Honda repair procedure for both the condensor fan > > and radiator fans not working. I have checked all the continuity > > between all the points it suggests and have checked the fans and even > > the diode. All checked out okay. The next thing it says to do is to > > check continuity of the black wire connecting the radiator fan control > > module (timer module) and ground. I SEEM TO HAVE AN OPEN CIRCUIT!!!!! > > According to the manual...if I had continuity, this would lead one > > to conclude that the module had failed. BUT.....I don't have > > continuity so it just says to "fix" the grounding problem. At this > > point I am lost because there are so many damn grounds on this car! > > > > However....I did check the main ground coming off the negative > > terminal of the battery and I would estimate that at least half of the > > wires have broken off the connector that is bolted to the engine > > block. I realize that this is an issue and should be fixed, but could > > this be my problem? This ground must impact every ground on the > > car....everything else seems to be working correctly? > > > > Thanks, > > Bill > > > > > > > > Look at the grounds that connect the radiator mountings to the chassis or > block.There's a ground cable from the front of my Integra to the > block,perhaps more than one. > > -- > Jim Yanik > jyanik-at-kua.net |
Re: Last Update - 93 Honda overheating - Ground problem?
I would just fix what is obviously broken and then worry about whether or
not it fixed the problem. CaptainKrunch "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message news:Xns9461D9266A327jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21.. . > "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in > news:15qIb.92999$UY6.48426@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > > > Again, thanks for your inputs. > > > > I have followed the Honda repair procedure for both the condensor fan > > and radiator fans not working. I have checked all the continuity > > between all the points it suggests and have checked the fans and even > > the diode. All checked out okay. The next thing it says to do is to > > check continuity of the black wire connecting the radiator fan control > > module (timer module) and ground. I SEEM TO HAVE AN OPEN CIRCUIT!!!!! > > According to the manual...if I had continuity, this would lead one > > to conclude that the module had failed. BUT.....I don't have > > continuity so it just says to "fix" the grounding problem. At this > > point I am lost because there are so many damn grounds on this car! > > > > However....I did check the main ground coming off the negative > > terminal of the battery and I would estimate that at least half of the > > wires have broken off the connector that is bolted to the engine > > block. I realize that this is an issue and should be fixed, but could > > this be my problem? This ground must impact every ground on the > > car....everything else seems to be working correctly? > > > > Thanks, > > Bill > > > > > > > > Look at the grounds that connect the radiator mountings to the chassis or > block.There's a ground cable from the front of my Integra to the > block,perhaps more than one. > > -- > Jim Yanik > jyanik-at-kua.net |
Re: Last Update - 93 Honda overheating - Ground problem?
I would just fix what is obviously broken and then worry about whether or
not it fixed the problem. CaptainKrunch "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message news:Xns9461D9266A327jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21.. . > "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in > news:15qIb.92999$UY6.48426@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > > > Again, thanks for your inputs. > > > > I have followed the Honda repair procedure for both the condensor fan > > and radiator fans not working. I have checked all the continuity > > between all the points it suggests and have checked the fans and even > > the diode. All checked out okay. The next thing it says to do is to > > check continuity of the black wire connecting the radiator fan control > > module (timer module) and ground. I SEEM TO HAVE AN OPEN CIRCUIT!!!!! > > According to the manual...if I had continuity, this would lead one > > to conclude that the module had failed. BUT.....I don't have > > continuity so it just says to "fix" the grounding problem. At this > > point I am lost because there are so many damn grounds on this car! > > > > However....I did check the main ground coming off the negative > > terminal of the battery and I would estimate that at least half of the > > wires have broken off the connector that is bolted to the engine > > block. I realize that this is an issue and should be fixed, but could > > this be my problem? This ground must impact every ground on the > > car....everything else seems to be working correctly? > > > > Thanks, > > Bill > > > > > > > > Look at the grounds that connect the radiator mountings to the chassis or > block.There's a ground cable from the front of my Integra to the > block,perhaps more than one. > > -- > Jim Yanik > jyanik-at-kua.net |
Re: Last Update - 93 Honda overheating - Ground problem?
You can connect a black (ground) wire to the body anywhere there is
metal. Drill a hole, scrape the paint off and use a nut, washer and bolt or sheet metal screw. Just get a good contact. It might be easier to add a new black wire. A bad connection is like an open switch. Re your main ground, replace it, it will make the car more reliable. On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:36:37 -0800, "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote: >I would just fix what is obviously broken and then worry about whether or >not it fixed the problem. > >CaptainKrunch > > >"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message >news:Xns9461D9266A327jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21. .. >> "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in >> news:15qIb.92999$UY6.48426@twister.nyroc.rr.com: >> >> > Again, thanks for your inputs. >> > >> > I have followed the Honda repair procedure for both the condensor fan >> > and radiator fans not working. I have checked all the continuity >> > between all the points it suggests and have checked the fans and even >> > the diode. All checked out okay. The next thing it says to do is to >> > check continuity of the black wire connecting the radiator fan control >> > module (timer module) and ground. I SEEM TO HAVE AN OPEN CIRCUIT!!!!! >> > According to the manual...if I had continuity, this would lead one >> > to conclude that the module had failed. BUT.....I don't have >> > continuity so it just says to "fix" the grounding problem. At this >> > point I am lost because there are so many damn grounds on this car! >> > >> > However....I did check the main ground coming off the negative >> > terminal of the battery and I would estimate that at least half of the >> > wires have broken off the connector that is bolted to the engine >> > block. I realize that this is an issue and should be fixed, but could >> > this be my problem? This ground must impact every ground on the >> > car....everything else seems to be working correctly? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Bill >> > >> > >> > >> >> Look at the grounds that connect the radiator mountings to the chassis or >> block.There's a ground cable from the front of my Integra to the >> block,perhaps more than one. >> >> -- >> Jim Yanik >> jyanik-at-kua.net > |
Re: Last Update - 93 Honda overheating - Ground problem?
You can connect a black (ground) wire to the body anywhere there is
metal. Drill a hole, scrape the paint off and use a nut, washer and bolt or sheet metal screw. Just get a good contact. It might be easier to add a new black wire. A bad connection is like an open switch. Re your main ground, replace it, it will make the car more reliable. On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:36:37 -0800, "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote: >I would just fix what is obviously broken and then worry about whether or >not it fixed the problem. > >CaptainKrunch > > >"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message >news:Xns9461D9266A327jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21. .. >> "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in >> news:15qIb.92999$UY6.48426@twister.nyroc.rr.com: >> >> > Again, thanks for your inputs. >> > >> > I have followed the Honda repair procedure for both the condensor fan >> > and radiator fans not working. I have checked all the continuity >> > between all the points it suggests and have checked the fans and even >> > the diode. All checked out okay. The next thing it says to do is to >> > check continuity of the black wire connecting the radiator fan control >> > module (timer module) and ground. I SEEM TO HAVE AN OPEN CIRCUIT!!!!! >> > According to the manual...if I had continuity, this would lead one >> > to conclude that the module had failed. BUT.....I don't have >> > continuity so it just says to "fix" the grounding problem. At this >> > point I am lost because there are so many damn grounds on this car! >> > >> > However....I did check the main ground coming off the negative >> > terminal of the battery and I would estimate that at least half of the >> > wires have broken off the connector that is bolted to the engine >> > block. I realize that this is an issue and should be fixed, but could >> > this be my problem? This ground must impact every ground on the >> > car....everything else seems to be working correctly? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Bill >> > >> > >> > >> >> Look at the grounds that connect the radiator mountings to the chassis or >> block.There's a ground cable from the front of my Integra to the >> block,perhaps more than one. >> >> -- >> Jim Yanik >> jyanik-at-kua.net > |
Re: Last Update - 93 Honda overheating - Ground problem?
You can connect a black (ground) wire to the body anywhere there is
metal. Drill a hole, scrape the paint off and use a nut, washer and bolt or sheet metal screw. Just get a good contact. It might be easier to add a new black wire. A bad connection is like an open switch. Re your main ground, replace it, it will make the car more reliable. On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:36:37 -0800, "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote: >I would just fix what is obviously broken and then worry about whether or >not it fixed the problem. > >CaptainKrunch > > >"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message >news:Xns9461D9266A327jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21. .. >> "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in >> news:15qIb.92999$UY6.48426@twister.nyroc.rr.com: >> >> > Again, thanks for your inputs. >> > >> > I have followed the Honda repair procedure for both the condensor fan >> > and radiator fans not working. I have checked all the continuity >> > between all the points it suggests and have checked the fans and even >> > the diode. All checked out okay. The next thing it says to do is to >> > check continuity of the black wire connecting the radiator fan control >> > module (timer module) and ground. I SEEM TO HAVE AN OPEN CIRCUIT!!!!! >> > According to the manual...if I had continuity, this would lead one >> > to conclude that the module had failed. BUT.....I don't have >> > continuity so it just says to "fix" the grounding problem. At this >> > point I am lost because there are so many damn grounds on this car! >> > >> > However....I did check the main ground coming off the negative >> > terminal of the battery and I would estimate that at least half of the >> > wires have broken off the connector that is bolted to the engine >> > block. I realize that this is an issue and should be fixed, but could >> > this be my problem? This ground must impact every ground on the >> > car....everything else seems to be working correctly? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Bill >> > >> > >> > >> >> Look at the grounds that connect the radiator mountings to the chassis or >> block.There's a ground cable from the front of my Integra to the >> block,perhaps more than one. >> >> -- >> Jim Yanik >> jyanik-at-kua.net > |
Re: Last Update - 93 Honda overheating - Ground problem?
You can connect a black (ground) wire to the body anywhere there is
metal. Drill a hole, scrape the paint off and use a nut, washer and bolt or sheet metal screw. Just get a good contact. It might be easier to add a new black wire. A bad connection is like an open switch. Re your main ground, replace it, it will make the car more reliable. On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:36:37 -0800, "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote: >I would just fix what is obviously broken and then worry about whether or >not it fixed the problem. > >CaptainKrunch > > >"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message >news:Xns9461D9266A327jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21. .. >> "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in >> news:15qIb.92999$UY6.48426@twister.nyroc.rr.com: >> >> > Again, thanks for your inputs. >> > >> > I have followed the Honda repair procedure for both the condensor fan >> > and radiator fans not working. I have checked all the continuity >> > between all the points it suggests and have checked the fans and even >> > the diode. All checked out okay. The next thing it says to do is to >> > check continuity of the black wire connecting the radiator fan control >> > module (timer module) and ground. I SEEM TO HAVE AN OPEN CIRCUIT!!!!! >> > According to the manual...if I had continuity, this would lead one >> > to conclude that the module had failed. BUT.....I don't have >> > continuity so it just says to "fix" the grounding problem. At this >> > point I am lost because there are so many damn grounds on this car! >> > >> > However....I did check the main ground coming off the negative >> > terminal of the battery and I would estimate that at least half of the >> > wires have broken off the connector that is bolted to the engine >> > block. I realize that this is an issue and should be fixed, but could >> > this be my problem? This ground must impact every ground on the >> > car....everything else seems to be working correctly? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Bill >> > >> > >> > >> >> Look at the grounds that connect the radiator mountings to the chassis or >> block.There's a ground cable from the front of my Integra to the >> block,perhaps more than one. >> >> -- >> Jim Yanik >> jyanik-at-kua.net > |
Re: Last Update - 93 Honda overheating - Ground problem?
In article <15qIb.92999$UY6.48426@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, "WORSS"
<wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote: > Again, thanks for your inputs. > > I have followed the Honda repair procedure for both the condensor fan and > radiator fans not working. I have checked all the continuity between all > the points it suggests and have checked the fans and even the diode. All > checked out okay. The next thing it says to do is to check continuity of > the black wire connecting the radiator fan control module (timer module) and > ground. I SEEM TO HAVE AN OPEN CIRCUIT!!!!! According to the manual...if > I had continuity, this would lead one to conclude that the module had > failed. BUT.....I don't have continuity so it just says to "fix" the > grounding problem. At this point I am lost because there are so many damn > grounds on this car! > > However....I did check the main ground coming off the negative terminal of > the battery and I would estimate that at least half of the wires have broken > off the connector that is bolted to the engine block. I realize that this > is an issue and should be fixed, but could this be my problem? This ground > must impact every ground on the car....everything else seems to be working > correctly? > > Thanks, > Bill I believe that it is very possible that you are on the right track--It's my guess that one of wires that you mentioned in the last paragraph is the source of the problem. After you reconnect the wires--your problem related to the radiator fans will (hopefully) be fixed. |
Re: Last Update - 93 Honda overheating - Ground problem?
In article <15qIb.92999$UY6.48426@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, "WORSS"
<wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote: > Again, thanks for your inputs. > > I have followed the Honda repair procedure for both the condensor fan and > radiator fans not working. I have checked all the continuity between all > the points it suggests and have checked the fans and even the diode. All > checked out okay. The next thing it says to do is to check continuity of > the black wire connecting the radiator fan control module (timer module) and > ground. I SEEM TO HAVE AN OPEN CIRCUIT!!!!! According to the manual...if > I had continuity, this would lead one to conclude that the module had > failed. BUT.....I don't have continuity so it just says to "fix" the > grounding problem. At this point I am lost because there are so many damn > grounds on this car! > > However....I did check the main ground coming off the negative terminal of > the battery and I would estimate that at least half of the wires have broken > off the connector that is bolted to the engine block. I realize that this > is an issue and should be fixed, but could this be my problem? This ground > must impact every ground on the car....everything else seems to be working > correctly? > > Thanks, > Bill I believe that it is very possible that you are on the right track--It's my guess that one of wires that you mentioned in the last paragraph is the source of the problem. After you reconnect the wires--your problem related to the radiator fans will (hopefully) be fixed. |
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