LONG __ What, CRV rear wheel bearings never fail ? ? (AWD)
'98 CRV auto, (AWD version) 46,000 miles (74,000km) Second owner.
When stopping on snow / ice, without causing the ABS to engage, the rear-right wheel makes a howling-grinding noise that changes pitch with rotation speed. It's a fairly 'throaty' sound. It only sounds at about 15 mph or slower, __just as you come to a stop___. Due to road noise, there's no audible noise at speed in forward, but in reverse, 15 mph, when you let it coast (so the tranny won't howl) you can hear the grinding noise in the rear right too. Changing the rear diff fluid didn't help, so the dealer replaced the whole diff. Noise is still there. Brakes look perfect on boths sides, with no accumulations of rust or metal filings. Drum surfaces are un-grooved and shoes have enough meat left on them. All the contact points have the copper colored anti-sieze spray on them as if they've never been touched since the factory. (I hear CRVs aren't very hard on the rear brakes) My conclusion is the rear right bearing, because it can be heard when rolling in reverse, but only really howls and grinds when putting higher (axial?) load on it while stopping. BTW, the stopping noise rarely happens on dry pavement, only if two or more wheels are on snow (which appears to be what fooled the dealer into swapping the diff). There's no signs of rubbing or grinding in the brakes, and when there's something bent or assembled wrong inside brake drums I'd expect to have a rub,rub,rub,rub kind of noise. Has anybody EVER seen a rear bearing on an AWD CRV go bad, and do you think that's what I've got? I'm going to get a (non-Honda) shop to inspect and swap the rear drums to eliminate them as a cause, since the dealer is absolutely convinced that they're going to tear my brakes apart (at my expen$e) until they find the problem. They claim it isn't the rear bearing because they never fail. ALSO: Both times I went there, the foreman was unreachable / out, so I had to show the noise to whoever was available to come along for a ride (mechanics) I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it doesn't seem right from a procedural perspective. 'Curly' -- To REPLY: If there are a couple of underscores in my return address, you must remove them to reply directly . . . . . . Thanks. |
Re: LONG __ What, CRV rear wheel bearings never fail ? ? (AWD)
hey, I too am a second owner of a 98 crv. Whenever i make tight u-turns, hear a howling noise coming from the rear. I search the internet fo this and came across your post and one other. The other was an ad to parts store to "replace your wheel bearings if you hear a howling soun coming from the rear". the parts cost around $50. I will tr replacing the right rear first then the left if necessary. christia - christian_ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted via RealCarAudio.com - The checkmate of the caraudio community http://www.RealCarAudio.co christian_a's Profile: http://www.realcaraudio.com/forums/m...nfo&userid=395 View this thread: http://www.realcaraudio.com/forums/s...?threadid=4113 |
Re: LONG __ What, CRV rear wheel bearings never fail ? ? (AWD)
hey, I too am a second owner of a 98 crv. Whenever i make tight u-turns, hear a howling noise coming from the rear. I search the internet fo this and came across your post and one other. The other was an ad to parts store to "replace your wheel bearings if you hear a howling soun coming from the rear". the parts cost around $50. I will tr replacing the right rear first then the left if necessary. christia - christian_ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted via RealCarAudio.com - The checkmate of the caraudio community http://www.RealCarAudio.co christian_a's Profile: http://www.realcaraudio.com/forums/m...nfo&userid=395 View this thread: http://www.realcaraudio.com/forums/s...?threadid=4113 |
Re: LONG __ What, CRV rear wheel bearings never fail ? ? (AWD)
hey, I too am a second owner of a 98 crv. Whenever i make tight u-turns, hear a howling noise coming from the rear. I search the internet fo this and came across your post and one other. The other was an ad to parts store to "replace your wheel bearings if you hear a howling soun coming from the rear". the parts cost around $50. I will tr replacing the right rear first then the left if necessary. christia - christian_ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted via RealCarAudio.com - The checkmate of the caraudio community http://www.RealCarAudio.co christian_a's Profile: http://www.realcaraudio.com/forums/m...nfo&userid=395 View this thread: http://www.realcaraudio.com/forums/s...?threadid=4113 |
Re: LONG __ What, CRV rear wheel bearings never fail ? ? (AWD)
christian_a wrote:
> > hey, > > I too am a second owner of a 98 crv. Whenever i make tight u-turns, I > hear a howling noise coming from the rear. I search the internet for > this and came across your post and one other. The other was an ad to a > parts store to "replace your wheel bearings if you hear a howling sound > coming from the rear". the parts cost around $50. I will try > replacing the right rear first then the left if necessary. > > christian > > -- > christian_a =================== You have to admit the 'ad' you mentioned is a pretty good scam.... Take the most frequently mentioned symptom of the CRV, and then run an ad that promises to fix the problem by selling the wrong part to the user. Brilliant! (You should post that link for the group to see) Your problem is probably NOT your wheel bearing, it's worn-out Dual Pump Fluid that should be changed out asap. Ignore the owner's manual in this rare instance. No matter what your mileage or age, when you get the symptom you've described, you change the Dual pump Fluid and it will go away. P.S. Make sure your front and rear tires are the same circumference too. :-) The wheel bearing problem has a very different description. Here's how I changed my own Dual Pump Fluid:---------------- Look over the top of the rear left wheel. You can see the drain and fill holes in the differential. Buy four feet of clear plastic tubing from a hobby or wine making store. Inner diameter is about 3/8", and get a small funnel from Dollar store that you can force into the tubing. Tape the tubing to a yard stick or old broom handle with two inches hanging out at differential end. Take the vehicle for a ten minute drive and then drain the fluid into a paint tray or suitable shallow container. (remove the upper bolt first, then lower) Allow to drain for 10 minutes, then replace the two crush washers on the bolts and put the lower bolt in. Add 1 litre of Honda 'Dual Pump Fluid' to the upper hole using tubing and funnel, resting on top of back tire. Bolt in upper hole and you're done! You didn't tell us the mileage, but yes, your manual explains that using mismatched tires on a CRV is very bad. You can sometimes overinflate / underinflate to correct for slight diameter difference. 'Curly' |
Re: LONG __ What, CRV rear wheel bearings never fail ? ? (AWD)
christian_a wrote:
> > hey, > > I too am a second owner of a 98 crv. Whenever i make tight u-turns, I > hear a howling noise coming from the rear. I search the internet for > this and came across your post and one other. The other was an ad to a > parts store to "replace your wheel bearings if you hear a howling sound > coming from the rear". the parts cost around $50. I will try > replacing the right rear first then the left if necessary. > > christian > > -- > christian_a =================== You have to admit the 'ad' you mentioned is a pretty good scam.... Take the most frequently mentioned symptom of the CRV, and then run an ad that promises to fix the problem by selling the wrong part to the user. Brilliant! (You should post that link for the group to see) Your problem is probably NOT your wheel bearing, it's worn-out Dual Pump Fluid that should be changed out asap. Ignore the owner's manual in this rare instance. No matter what your mileage or age, when you get the symptom you've described, you change the Dual pump Fluid and it will go away. P.S. Make sure your front and rear tires are the same circumference too. :-) The wheel bearing problem has a very different description. Here's how I changed my own Dual Pump Fluid:---------------- Look over the top of the rear left wheel. You can see the drain and fill holes in the differential. Buy four feet of clear plastic tubing from a hobby or wine making store. Inner diameter is about 3/8", and get a small funnel from Dollar store that you can force into the tubing. Tape the tubing to a yard stick or old broom handle with two inches hanging out at differential end. Take the vehicle for a ten minute drive and then drain the fluid into a paint tray or suitable shallow container. (remove the upper bolt first, then lower) Allow to drain for 10 minutes, then replace the two crush washers on the bolts and put the lower bolt in. Add 1 litre of Honda 'Dual Pump Fluid' to the upper hole using tubing and funnel, resting on top of back tire. Bolt in upper hole and you're done! You didn't tell us the mileage, but yes, your manual explains that using mismatched tires on a CRV is very bad. You can sometimes overinflate / underinflate to correct for slight diameter difference. 'Curly' |
Re: LONG __ What, CRV rear wheel bearings never fail ? ? (AWD)
christian_a wrote:
> > hey, > > I too am a second owner of a 98 crv. Whenever i make tight u-turns, I > hear a howling noise coming from the rear. I search the internet for > this and came across your post and one other. The other was an ad to a > parts store to "replace your wheel bearings if you hear a howling sound > coming from the rear". the parts cost around $50. I will try > replacing the right rear first then the left if necessary. > > christian > > -- > christian_a =================== You have to admit the 'ad' you mentioned is a pretty good scam.... Take the most frequently mentioned symptom of the CRV, and then run an ad that promises to fix the problem by selling the wrong part to the user. Brilliant! (You should post that link for the group to see) Your problem is probably NOT your wheel bearing, it's worn-out Dual Pump Fluid that should be changed out asap. Ignore the owner's manual in this rare instance. No matter what your mileage or age, when you get the symptom you've described, you change the Dual pump Fluid and it will go away. P.S. Make sure your front and rear tires are the same circumference too. :-) The wheel bearing problem has a very different description. Here's how I changed my own Dual Pump Fluid:---------------- Look over the top of the rear left wheel. You can see the drain and fill holes in the differential. Buy four feet of clear plastic tubing from a hobby or wine making store. Inner diameter is about 3/8", and get a small funnel from Dollar store that you can force into the tubing. Tape the tubing to a yard stick or old broom handle with two inches hanging out at differential end. Take the vehicle for a ten minute drive and then drain the fluid into a paint tray or suitable shallow container. (remove the upper bolt first, then lower) Allow to drain for 10 minutes, then replace the two crush washers on the bolts and put the lower bolt in. Add 1 litre of Honda 'Dual Pump Fluid' to the upper hole using tubing and funnel, resting on top of back tire. Bolt in upper hole and you're done! You didn't tell us the mileage, but yes, your manual explains that using mismatched tires on a CRV is very bad. You can sometimes overinflate / underinflate to correct for slight diameter difference. 'Curly' |
Re: LONG __ What, CRV rear wheel bearings never fail ? ? (AWD)
Will the failure of this "fluid" (oil) also cause a slight shudder when
making a tight slow turn (parking lot) as well as a grinding noise (like a worn to the metal brake pad) when backing up in a slight turn? |
Re: LONG __ What, CRV rear wheel bearings never fail ? ? (AWD)
Will the failure of this "fluid" (oil) also cause a slight shudder when
making a tight slow turn (parking lot) as well as a grinding noise (like a worn to the metal brake pad) when backing up in a slight turn? |
Re: LONG __ What, CRV rear wheel bearings never fail ? ? (AWD)
Will the failure of this "fluid" (oil) also cause a slight shudder when
making a tight slow turn (parking lot) as well as a grinding noise (like a worn to the metal brake pad) when backing up in a slight turn? |
Re: LONG __ What, CRV rear wheel bearings never fail ? ? (AWD)
bookdad wrote:
> Will the failure of this "fluid" (oil) also cause a slight shudder when > making a tight slow turn (parking lot) as well as a grinding noise (like a > worn to the metal brake pad) when backing up in a slight turn? > Hi, Don't know about shudder but noise yes. I had to drain and refill the oil. The noise was quite substantial. |
Re: LONG __ What, CRV rear wheel bearings never fail ? ? (AWD)
bookdad wrote:
> Will the failure of this "fluid" (oil) also cause a slight shudder when > making a tight slow turn (parking lot) as well as a grinding noise (like a > worn to the metal brake pad) when backing up in a slight turn? > Hi, Don't know about shudder but noise yes. I had to drain and refill the oil. The noise was quite substantial. |
Re: LONG __ What, CRV rear wheel bearings never fail ? ? (AWD)
bookdad wrote:
> Will the failure of this "fluid" (oil) also cause a slight shudder when > making a tight slow turn (parking lot) as well as a grinding noise (like a > worn to the metal brake pad) when backing up in a slight turn? > Hi, Don't know about shudder but noise yes. I had to drain and refill the oil. The noise was quite substantial. |
Re: LONG __ What, CRV rear wheel bearings never fail ? ? (AWD)
bookdad wrote:
> > Will the failure of this "fluid" (oil) also cause a slight shudder when > making a tight slow turn (parking lot) as well as a grinding noise (like a > worn to the metal brake pad) when backing up in a slight turn? ---------------------------- You could not have described it better. The owner's manual is wrong about the change interval. 50,000 Km is ideal (30,000 Mi). I've never heard of it in reverse, but never thought to try it in reverse. 'Curly' |
Re: LONG __ What, CRV rear wheel bearings never fail ? ? (AWD)
bookdad wrote:
> > Will the failure of this "fluid" (oil) also cause a slight shudder when > making a tight slow turn (parking lot) as well as a grinding noise (like a > worn to the metal brake pad) when backing up in a slight turn? ---------------------------- You could not have described it better. The owner's manual is wrong about the change interval. 50,000 Km is ideal (30,000 Mi). I've never heard of it in reverse, but never thought to try it in reverse. 'Curly' |
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