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T L via CarKB.com 07-24-2005 10:45 AM

lost the key to my locking lugs
 

Hey all,

I put some 14" rims on my 98 civic, they look nice and all, nuthin too fancy.
The guy who sold them to me also gave me a set of locking lugs. Well the
other night, I had to remove a tire in order to survey some damage to it. In
the process, I think I may have left the key to the locking lugs behind (the
mosquitos were drivin me nuts!). DAMMIT. So I don't know the manufacture,
or the 'code' to the lugs, ruling out the ability to get in touch with the
manufacturer for a replacement.

So, any ideas how I can get these things off? I think I may just go back to
regular lug nuts, in case this happens again someday, but right now i just
want to get this addressed, I am very nervous driving around without the
ability to remove my wheels at will....

t


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DGB 07-24-2005 01:00 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
Have you tried a really good pair o vise grips and a maul?

DGB


"T L via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:51CD88A802D76@CarKB.com...
>
> Hey all,
>
> I put some 14" rims on my 98 civic, they look nice and all, nuthin too

fancy.
> The guy who sold them to me also gave me a set of locking lugs. Well the
> other night, I had to remove a tire in order to survey some damage to it.

In
> the process, I think I may have left the key to the locking lugs behind

(the
> mosquitos were drivin me nuts!). DAMMIT. So I don't know the

manufacture,
> or the 'code' to the lugs, ruling out the ability to get in touch with the
> manufacturer for a replacement.
>
> So, any ideas how I can get these things off? I think I may just go back

to
> regular lug nuts, in case this happens again someday, but right now i just
> want to get this addressed, I am very nervous driving around without the
> ability to remove my wheels at will....
>
> t
>
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com




DGB 07-24-2005 01:00 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
Have you tried a really good pair o vise grips and a maul?

DGB


"T L via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:51CD88A802D76@CarKB.com...
>
> Hey all,
>
> I put some 14" rims on my 98 civic, they look nice and all, nuthin too

fancy.
> The guy who sold them to me also gave me a set of locking lugs. Well the
> other night, I had to remove a tire in order to survey some damage to it.

In
> the process, I think I may have left the key to the locking lugs behind

(the
> mosquitos were drivin me nuts!). DAMMIT. So I don't know the

manufacture,
> or the 'code' to the lugs, ruling out the ability to get in touch with the
> manufacturer for a replacement.
>
> So, any ideas how I can get these things off? I think I may just go back

to
> regular lug nuts, in case this happens again someday, but right now i just
> want to get this addressed, I am very nervous driving around without the
> ability to remove my wheels at will....
>
> t
>
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com




T L via CarKB.com 07-24-2005 01:57 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 

Have not tried anything yet (looking for ideas before I do something stupid
and damage them), whats a maul?

DGB wrote:
>Have you tried a really good pair o vise grips and a maul?
>
>DGB
>
>> Hey all,
>>

>[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>>
>> t



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T L via CarKB.com 07-24-2005 01:57 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 

Have not tried anything yet (looking for ideas before I do something stupid
and damage them), whats a maul?

DGB wrote:
>Have you tried a really good pair o vise grips and a maul?
>
>DGB
>
>> Hey all,
>>

>[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>>
>> t



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Elmo P. Shagnasty 07-24-2005 02:01 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
In article <51CD88A802D76@CarKB.com>,
"T L via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote:

>
> I put some 14" rims on my 98 civic, they look nice and all, nuthin too fancy.
> The guy who sold them to me also gave me a set of locking lugs. Well the
> other night, I had to remove a tire in order to survey some damage to it. In
> the process, I think I may have left the key to the locking lugs behind (the
> mosquitos were drivin me nuts!). DAMMIT. So I don't know the manufacture,
> or the 'code' to the lugs, ruling out the ability to get in touch with the
> manufacturer for a replacement.
>
> So, any ideas how I can get these things off?


Snap-On makes a tool just for this.

In fact, it's quicker than using the key.

And the boyz in the hood know all about it, too, so.....just dump the
locking lugs. You're wasting your time.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 07-24-2005 02:01 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
In article <51CD88A802D76@CarKB.com>,
"T L via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote:

>
> I put some 14" rims on my 98 civic, they look nice and all, nuthin too fancy.
> The guy who sold them to me also gave me a set of locking lugs. Well the
> other night, I had to remove a tire in order to survey some damage to it. In
> the process, I think I may have left the key to the locking lugs behind (the
> mosquitos were drivin me nuts!). DAMMIT. So I don't know the manufacture,
> or the 'code' to the lugs, ruling out the ability to get in touch with the
> manufacturer for a replacement.
>
> So, any ideas how I can get these things off?


Snap-On makes a tool just for this.

In fact, it's quicker than using the key.

And the boyz in the hood know all about it, too, so.....just dump the
locking lugs. You're wasting your time.


Figaro 07-24-2005 03:11 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 

"T L via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:51CD88A802D76@CarKB.com...
|
| Hey all,
|
| I put some 14" rims on my 98 civic, they look nice and all, nuthin too
fancy.
| The guy who sold them to me also gave me a set of locking lugs. Well the
| other night, I had to remove a tire in order to survey some damage to it.
In
| the process, I think I may have left the key to the locking lugs behind
(the
| mosquitos were drivin me nuts!). DAMMIT. So I don't know the
manufacture,
| or the 'code' to the lugs, ruling out the ability to get in touch with the
| manufacturer for a replacement.
|
| So, any ideas how I can get these things off? I think I may just go back
to
| regular lug nuts, in case this happens again someday, but right now i just
| want to get this addressed, I am very nervous driving around without the
| ability to remove my wheels at will....
|
| t
|
|
| --
| Message posted via http://www.carkb.com

this happened to me with my acura integra a few years ago. i brought the
car to the acura dealer and they made short work of it. they charged me
$35.





Figaro 07-24-2005 03:11 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 

"T L via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:51CD88A802D76@CarKB.com...
|
| Hey all,
|
| I put some 14" rims on my 98 civic, they look nice and all, nuthin too
fancy.
| The guy who sold them to me also gave me a set of locking lugs. Well the
| other night, I had to remove a tire in order to survey some damage to it.
In
| the process, I think I may have left the key to the locking lugs behind
(the
| mosquitos were drivin me nuts!). DAMMIT. So I don't know the
manufacture,
| or the 'code' to the lugs, ruling out the ability to get in touch with the
| manufacturer for a replacement.
|
| So, any ideas how I can get these things off? I think I may just go back
to
| regular lug nuts, in case this happens again someday, but right now i just
| want to get this addressed, I am very nervous driving around without the
| ability to remove my wheels at will....
|
| t
|
|
| --
| Message posted via http://www.carkb.com

this happened to me with my acura integra a few years ago. i brought the
car to the acura dealer and they made short work of it. they charged me
$35.





Joe-46er 07-24-2005 08:43 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
Many garages will have a tool to remove lock nuts. It's kind of a
reverse thread socket that grips the nut and turns it. The nut is
ruined in the process, but a new set of nuts can be bought later at
any auto store.
But like one respondent here said, the boyz in the hood can get them
off anyhoo so it doesn't do much good to have lock nuts.





On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:45:27 GMT, "T L via CarKB.com"
<forum@CarKB.com> wrote:

>
>Hey all,
>
>I put some 14" rims on my 98 civic, they look nice and all, nuthin too fancy.
>The guy who sold them to me also gave me a set of locking lugs. Well the
>other night, I had to remove a tire in order to survey some damage to it. In
>the process, I think I may have left the key to the locking lugs behind (the
>mosquitos were drivin me nuts!). DAMMIT. So I don't know the manufacture,
>or the 'code' to the lugs, ruling out the ability to get in touch with the
>manufacturer for a replacement.
>
>So, any ideas how I can get these things off? I think I may just go back to
>regular lug nuts, in case this happens again someday, but right now i just
>want to get this addressed, I am very nervous driving around without the
>ability to remove my wheels at will....
>
>t





_________________________________

"Take a little 5FU, leucovorin and irenotecan for thy stomach's sake." -- 1 Timothy 5:23 (adapted)

Joe-46er 07-24-2005 08:43 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
Many garages will have a tool to remove lock nuts. It's kind of a
reverse thread socket that grips the nut and turns it. The nut is
ruined in the process, but a new set of nuts can be bought later at
any auto store.
But like one respondent here said, the boyz in the hood can get them
off anyhoo so it doesn't do much good to have lock nuts.





On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:45:27 GMT, "T L via CarKB.com"
<forum@CarKB.com> wrote:

>
>Hey all,
>
>I put some 14" rims on my 98 civic, they look nice and all, nuthin too fancy.
>The guy who sold them to me also gave me a set of locking lugs. Well the
>other night, I had to remove a tire in order to survey some damage to it. In
>the process, I think I may have left the key to the locking lugs behind (the
>mosquitos were drivin me nuts!). DAMMIT. So I don't know the manufacture,
>or the 'code' to the lugs, ruling out the ability to get in touch with the
>manufacturer for a replacement.
>
>So, any ideas how I can get these things off? I think I may just go back to
>regular lug nuts, in case this happens again someday, but right now i just
>want to get this addressed, I am very nervous driving around without the
>ability to remove my wheels at will....
>
>t





_________________________________

"Take a little 5FU, leucovorin and irenotecan for thy stomach's sake." -- 1 Timothy 5:23 (adapted)

Mark Nickerson 07-24-2005 10:29 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
I have a sad story about locking lug nuts. I took the old Plymouth Voyager
in for its last set of tires. I wanted to keep it for a couple more years
then get the new Ody...yup had it all planned out.

The guy at the tires shop using a powered wrench reverse rotated TWO of my
locking lugs! It destroyed the key and both of the lugs. The posts with
the lugs had to be cut off. I can still remember the laughter from the
welder.

I did get the Ody, just sooner than I had planned.

Mark



Mark Nickerson 07-24-2005 10:29 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
I have a sad story about locking lug nuts. I took the old Plymouth Voyager
in for its last set of tires. I wanted to keep it for a couple more years
then get the new Ody...yup had it all planned out.

The guy at the tires shop using a powered wrench reverse rotated TWO of my
locking lugs! It destroyed the key and both of the lugs. The posts with
the lugs had to be cut off. I can still remember the laughter from the
welder.

I did get the Ody, just sooner than I had planned.

Mark



motsco_ _ 07-24-2005 10:39 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
Mark Nickerson wrote:
> I have a sad story about locking lug nuts. I took the old Plymouth Voyager
> in for its last set of tires. I wanted to keep it for a couple more years
> then get the new Ody...yup had it all planned out.
>
> The guy at the tires shop using a powered wrench reverse rotated TWO of my
> locking lugs! It destroyed the key and both of the lugs. The posts with
> the lugs had to be cut off. I can still remember the laughter from the
> welder.
>
> I did get the Ody, just sooner than I had planned.
>
> Mark



----------------------------

Any event (aside from a death or something) that caused you to get rid
of a Plymouth and into a Honda is actually good news :-)

'Curly'


motsco_ _ 07-24-2005 10:39 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
Mark Nickerson wrote:
> I have a sad story about locking lug nuts. I took the old Plymouth Voyager
> in for its last set of tires. I wanted to keep it for a couple more years
> then get the new Ody...yup had it all planned out.
>
> The guy at the tires shop using a powered wrench reverse rotated TWO of my
> locking lugs! It destroyed the key and both of the lugs. The posts with
> the lugs had to be cut off. I can still remember the laughter from the
> welder.
>
> I did get the Ody, just sooner than I had planned.
>
> Mark



----------------------------

Any event (aside from a death or something) that caused you to get rid
of a Plymouth and into a Honda is actually good news :-)

'Curly'


Elmo P. Shagnasty 07-24-2005 10:56 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
In article <42E450FA.6030308@interbaun.com>,
"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote:

> Any event (aside from a death or something) that caused you to get rid
> of a Plymouth and into a Honda is actually good news :-)


Out of one piece of transmission hell, straight into another...


Elmo P. Shagnasty 07-24-2005 10:56 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
In article <42E450FA.6030308@interbaun.com>,
"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote:

> Any event (aside from a death or something) that caused you to get rid
> of a Plymouth and into a Honda is actually good news :-)


Out of one piece of transmission hell, straight into another...


Jim Yanik 07-25-2005 10:12 AM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
"Figaro" <Figaro@mailinator.com> wrote in
news:J5CdnWNPvN5Gen7fRVn-pg@comcast.com:

>
> "T L via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> news:51CD88A802D76@CarKB.com...
>|
>| Hey all,
>|
>| I put some 14" rims on my 98 civic, they look nice and all, nuthin
>| too
> fancy.
>| The guy who sold them to me also gave me a set of locking lugs. Well
>| the other night, I had to remove a tire in order to survey some
>| damage to it.
> In
>| the process, I think I may have left the key to the locking lugs
>| behind
> (the
>| mosquitos were drivin me nuts!). DAMMIT. So I don't know the
> manufacture,
>| or the 'code' to the lugs, ruling out the ability to get in touch
>| with the manufacturer for a replacement.
>|
>| So, any ideas how I can get these things off? I think I may just go
>| back
> to
>| regular lug nuts, in case this happens again someday, but right now i
>| just want to get this addressed, I am very nervous driving around
>| without the ability to remove my wheels at will....
>|



> this happened to me with my acura integra a few years ago. i brought
> the car to the acura dealer and they made short work of it. they
> charged me $35.
>



I bought my locking lugs at the Acura dealer,and I suspect they all are the
same,use the same key.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 07-25-2005 10:12 AM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
"Figaro" <Figaro@mailinator.com> wrote in
news:J5CdnWNPvN5Gen7fRVn-pg@comcast.com:

>
> "T L via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> news:51CD88A802D76@CarKB.com...
>|
>| Hey all,
>|
>| I put some 14" rims on my 98 civic, they look nice and all, nuthin
>| too
> fancy.
>| The guy who sold them to me also gave me a set of locking lugs. Well
>| the other night, I had to remove a tire in order to survey some
>| damage to it.
> In
>| the process, I think I may have left the key to the locking lugs
>| behind
> (the
>| mosquitos were drivin me nuts!). DAMMIT. So I don't know the
> manufacture,
>| or the 'code' to the lugs, ruling out the ability to get in touch
>| with the manufacturer for a replacement.
>|
>| So, any ideas how I can get these things off? I think I may just go
>| back
> to
>| regular lug nuts, in case this happens again someday, but right now i
>| just want to get this addressed, I am very nervous driving around
>| without the ability to remove my wheels at will....
>|



> this happened to me with my acura integra a few years ago. i brought
> the car to the acura dealer and they made short work of it. they
> charged me $35.
>



I bought my locking lugs at the Acura dealer,and I suspect they all are the
same,use the same key.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 07-25-2005 10:14 AM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
7F739B.22565924072005@nntp3.usenetserver.com:

> In article <42E450FA.6030308@interbaun.com>,
> "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote:
>
>> Any event (aside from a death or something) that caused you to get rid
>> of a Plymouth and into a Honda is actually good news :-)

>
> Out of one piece of transmission hell, straight into another...
>
>


Automatic transmissions,I presume.
I've owned Honda products since 1975 and never had any troubles with the
manual trannys.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 07-25-2005 10:14 AM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
7F739B.22565924072005@nntp3.usenetserver.com:

> In article <42E450FA.6030308@interbaun.com>,
> "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote:
>
>> Any event (aside from a death or something) that caused you to get rid
>> of a Plymouth and into a Honda is actually good news :-)

>
> Out of one piece of transmission hell, straight into another...
>
>


Automatic transmissions,I presume.
I've owned Honda products since 1975 and never had any troubles with the
manual trannys.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Mark Nickerson 07-25-2005 01:37 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
I actually had 151k miles on the Plymouth. The Transmission was replaced at
no cost to me at 74k miles.
My Ody is at 87k and is running fine.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty"
>
> Out of one piece of transmission hell, straight into another...
>




Mark Nickerson 07-25-2005 01:37 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
I actually had 151k miles on the Plymouth. The Transmission was replaced at
no cost to me at 74k miles.
My Ody is at 87k and is running fine.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty"
>
> Out of one piece of transmission hell, straight into another...
>




Elmo P. Shagnasty 07-25-2005 04:14 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
In article <Xns969E681BF945Ejyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86>,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote:

> Automatic transmissions,I presume.
> I've owned Honda products since 1975 and never had any troubles with the
> manual trannys.


Absolutely.

Yes, auto trans.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 07-25-2005 04:14 PM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
In article <Xns969E681BF945Ejyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86>,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote:

> Automatic transmissions,I presume.
> I've owned Honda products since 1975 and never had any troubles with the
> manual trannys.


Absolutely.

Yes, auto trans.


Michael Pardee 07-27-2005 08:55 AM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:42E450FA.6030308@interbaun.com...
> Any event (aside from a death or something) that caused you to get rid of
> a Plymouth and into a Honda is actually good news :-)
>
> 'Curly'
>

True enough!

Mike (former owner of a Plymouth Duster)



Michael Pardee 07-27-2005 08:55 AM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:42E450FA.6030308@interbaun.com...
> Any event (aside from a death or something) that caused you to get rid of
> a Plymouth and into a Honda is actually good news :-)
>
> 'Curly'
>

True enough!

Mike (former owner of a Plymouth Duster)



Michael Pardee 07-27-2005 09:00 AM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
"T L via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:51CD88A802D76@CarKB.com...
>
> Hey all,
>
> I put some 14" rims on my 98 civic, they look nice and all, nuthin too
> fancy.
> The guy who sold them to me also gave me a set of locking lugs. Well the
> other night, I had to remove a tire in order to survey some damage to it.
> In
> the process, I think I may have left the key to the locking lugs behind
> (the
> mosquitos were drivin me nuts!). DAMMIT. So I don't know the
> manufacture,
> or the 'code' to the lugs, ruling out the ability to get in touch with the
> manufacturer for a replacement.
>
> So, any ideas how I can get these things off? I think I may just go back
> to
> regular lug nuts, in case this happens again someday, but right now i just
> want to get this addressed, I am very nervous driving around without the
> ability to remove my wheels at will....
>

I had to rescue the son of a friend who faced that problem on the freeway
(d'oh!) so I called my friends at Discount Tire and explained the situation.
Their method (which worked like a charm for me) was to select a six point
socket that wouldn't quite fit over the locking lug and drive it on with a
hammer, then remove it the obvious way. I used a Craftsman socket, but any
decent socket should work. The metal peeled back as I drove it on, so gloves
or great care are a must. The socket was then firmly attached to the locking
lug, and it took a session with a bench vice, hammer and punch to separate
them. The socket was undamaged.

Mike



Michael Pardee 07-27-2005 09:00 AM

Re: lost the key to my locking lugs
 
"T L via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:51CD88A802D76@CarKB.com...
>
> Hey all,
>
> I put some 14" rims on my 98 civic, they look nice and all, nuthin too
> fancy.
> The guy who sold them to me also gave me a set of locking lugs. Well the
> other night, I had to remove a tire in order to survey some damage to it.
> In
> the process, I think I may have left the key to the locking lugs behind
> (the
> mosquitos were drivin me nuts!). DAMMIT. So I don't know the
> manufacture,
> or the 'code' to the lugs, ruling out the ability to get in touch with the
> manufacturer for a replacement.
>
> So, any ideas how I can get these things off? I think I may just go back
> to
> regular lug nuts, in case this happens again someday, but right now i just
> want to get this addressed, I am very nervous driving around without the
> ability to remove my wheels at will....
>

I had to rescue the son of a friend who faced that problem on the freeway
(d'oh!) so I called my friends at Discount Tire and explained the situation.
Their method (which worked like a charm for me) was to select a six point
socket that wouldn't quite fit over the locking lug and drive it on with a
hammer, then remove it the obvious way. I used a Craftsman socket, but any
decent socket should work. The metal peeled back as I drove it on, so gloves
or great care are a must. The socket was then firmly attached to the locking
lug, and it took a session with a bench vice, hammer and punch to separate
them. The socket was undamaged.

Mike




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