Re: Make it easier to get safety features.
 

Charles Lasitter wrote:
> On 21 Apr 2006 05:26:25 -0700, dimndsonmywndshld@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>>The new Camry has all these features as either standard or as a
>>stand-alone option (traction control/stability control is not in a
>>bundle).
>
>
> I have to say a big THANK YOU for pointing this out.
>
> With the Camry SE it looks like you get a lot stock and a lot more with
> one optional package.


The SE is a pretty nice unit. I test drove one a few days ago. The new
Camry nose is damn ugly, but the black-out grill on the SE even helps a
little with that. In the end I bought an Acura TSX this time around,
partly because Toyota dealers are still very proud of their new Camry
(high prices).

I also checked out the latest Toyota Navigation system in the '07 Camry
and it seemed very well done indeed. In fact, it is the only one I have
seen which is as good as or even better than the latest Honda/Acura Navi
sytems.

Ever since getting Navi on my '03 Accord it has become something of a
must-have feature for a new vehicle purchase. My wife liked my Accord
so much that she insisted I give it to her and get myself something else :).

John

Re: Make it easier to get safety features.
 

John Horner wrote:
> The SE is a pretty nice unit. I test drove one a few days ago. The new
> Camry nose is damn ugly,

i think that has to do with "pedestrian safety", big in europe.

Re: Make it easier to get safety features.
 

John Horner wrote:
> The SE is a pretty nice unit. I test drove one a few days ago. The new
> Camry nose is damn ugly,

i think that has to do with "pedestrian safety", big in europe.

Re: Make it easier to get safety features.
 

John Horner wrote:
> The SE is a pretty nice unit. I test drove one a few days ago. The new
> Camry nose is damn ugly,

i think that has to do with "pedestrian safety", big in europe.

Re: Make it easier to get safety features.
 

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:01:28 -0400, Charles Lasitter
<spoof@address.com> wrote:
>Would anyone else buy these safety features for a relative few thousand
>extra dollars, or am I alone in this?

I'm happy with my ABS, wish I didn't have to shell out for air bags,
and not entirely convinced on some of the other hifalutin features.

Marketing-wise, it's hard for a manufacturer to put safety features on
just the high-zoot models, so they put them on only the high-zoot
marques instead. Until stuff gets really cheap like ABS has.

I'd also like back the $50 or so it costs me for the cruise control,
which I've never used and probably never will, and really, who does?

J.

Re: Make it easier to get safety features.
 

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:01:28 -0400, Charles Lasitter
<spoof@address.com> wrote:
>Would anyone else buy these safety features for a relative few thousand
>extra dollars, or am I alone in this?

I'm happy with my ABS, wish I didn't have to shell out for air bags,
and not entirely convinced on some of the other hifalutin features.

Marketing-wise, it's hard for a manufacturer to put safety features on
just the high-zoot models, so they put them on only the high-zoot
marques instead. Until stuff gets really cheap like ABS has.

I'd also like back the $50 or so it costs me for the cruise control,
which I've never used and probably never will, and really, who does?

J.

Re: Make it easier to get safety features.
 

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:01:28 -0400, Charles Lasitter
<spoof@address.com> wrote:
>Would anyone else buy these safety features for a relative few thousand
>extra dollars, or am I alone in this?

I'm happy with my ABS, wish I didn't have to shell out for air bags,
and not entirely convinced on some of the other hifalutin features.

Marketing-wise, it's hard for a manufacturer to put safety features on
just the high-zoot models, so they put them on only the high-zoot
marques instead. Until stuff gets really cheap like ABS has.

I'd also like back the $50 or so it costs me for the cruise control,
which I've never used and probably never will, and really, who does?

J.

Re: Make it easier to get safety features.
 

Matt Ion wrote:
> XM, dual-zone climate, etc. may all seem like frivolous things, but
> they're those kinds of features that you'll find, once you've had them a
> while, you'll wonder how you ever lived without them.

if you have in-car XM with a subscription, can you buy a standalone unit
for the house and use the same subscription?

Re: Make it easier to get safety features.
 

Matt Ion wrote:
> XM, dual-zone climate, etc. may all seem like frivolous things, but
> they're those kinds of features that you'll find, once you've had them a
> while, you'll wonder how you ever lived without them.

if you have in-car XM with a subscription, can you buy a standalone unit
for the house and use the same subscription?

Re: Make it easier to get safety features.
 

Matt Ion wrote:
> XM, dual-zone climate, etc. may all seem like frivolous things, but
> they're those kinds of features that you'll find, once you've had them a
> while, you'll wonder how you ever lived without them.

if you have in-car XM with a subscription, can you buy a standalone unit
for the house and use the same subscription?

Re: Make it easier to get safety features.
 

Gordon McGrew wrote:
>> 4-wheel disk brakes (items not available on my '05 LX)
>
> Surprised that Honda is still using drum brakes on the Accord.
> Anyway, I don't think these add much to safety.

eveything ive read from people in the rust belt here indicate that rear
discs arent worth it, compared to the maintenance needed on em.

Re: Make it easier to get safety features.
 

Gordon McGrew wrote:
>> 4-wheel disk brakes (items not available on my '05 LX)
>
> Surprised that Honda is still using drum brakes on the Accord.
> Anyway, I don't think these add much to safety.

eveything ive read from people in the rust belt here indicate that rear
discs arent worth it, compared to the maintenance needed on em.

Re: Make it easier to get safety features.
 

Gordon McGrew wrote:
>> 4-wheel disk brakes (items not available on my '05 LX)
>
> Surprised that Honda is still using drum brakes on the Accord.
> Anyway, I don't think these add much to safety.

eveything ive read from people in the rust belt here indicate that rear
discs arent worth it, compared to the maintenance needed on em.

Re: Make it easier to get safety features.
 

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:00:49 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> The SE is a pretty nice unit. I test drove one a few days ago. The new
> Camry nose is damn ugly,

Thank you! I looked at one on the lot Saturday and that was the
immediate impression I got.

Don't they have anyone to help with their styling?
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Re: Make it easier to get safety features.
 

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:00:49 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> The SE is a pretty nice unit. I test drove one a few days ago. The new
> Camry nose is damn ugly,

Thank you! I looked at one on the lot Saturday and that was the
immediate impression I got.

Don't they have anyone to help with their styling?
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