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kobsef@gmail.com 01-02-2007 05:09 PM

Manual Transmission !
 
Is there any truth to the old adage, "the grease that holds the engine
together" ??

Upon asking him about servicing my manual transmission my mechanic
basically told me "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He said that if I
had been servicing the transmission REGULARLY then it would be
recommended, but if it is long overdue yet running fine then just leave
it alone.

Is he crazy?

Should I put new Honda MTF in the tranny, and should I do anything
BEYOND that (have it cleaned/serviced)

Or should I leave it alone? It's running fine.

By the way my car is a 1987 Honda Accord DX hatchback with 140,000
miles, and I bought it 2 years ago with only 119,000 miles on it -- so
I'm not sure if the previous owner was doing REGULAR tranny servicings.


Thanks for the help!


Elle 01-02-2007 05:31 PM

Re: Manual Transmission !
 
The maintenance schedule for this car does prescribe regular
MTF changes. Now if you use the newer Honda OEM MTF, you can
increase that a lot, IMO, and it does not cost you more. For
my experience on this with my 1991 Civic, see
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id20.html .

Lose this mechanic of yours.

<kobsef@gmail.com> wrote
> Is there any truth to the old adage, "the grease that
> holds the engine
> together" ??
>
> Upon asking him about servicing my manual transmission my
> mechanic
> basically told me "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He
> said that if I
> had been servicing the transmission REGULARLY then it
> would be
> recommended, but if it is long overdue yet running fine
> then just leave
> it alone.
>
> Is he crazy?
>
> Should I put new Honda MTF in the tranny, and should I do
> anything
> BEYOND that (have it cleaned/serviced)
>
> Or should I leave it alone? It's running fine.
>
> By the way my car is a 1987 Honda Accord DX hatchback with
> 140,000
> miles, and I bought it 2 years ago with only 119,000 miles
> on it -- so
> I'm not sure if the previous owner was doing REGULAR
> tranny servicings.




Elle 01-02-2007 05:31 PM

Re: Manual Transmission !
 
The maintenance schedule for this car does prescribe regular
MTF changes. Now if you use the newer Honda OEM MTF, you can
increase that a lot, IMO, and it does not cost you more. For
my experience on this with my 1991 Civic, see
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id20.html .

Lose this mechanic of yours.

<kobsef@gmail.com> wrote
> Is there any truth to the old adage, "the grease that
> holds the engine
> together" ??
>
> Upon asking him about servicing my manual transmission my
> mechanic
> basically told me "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He
> said that if I
> had been servicing the transmission REGULARLY then it
> would be
> recommended, but if it is long overdue yet running fine
> then just leave
> it alone.
>
> Is he crazy?
>
> Should I put new Honda MTF in the tranny, and should I do
> anything
> BEYOND that (have it cleaned/serviced)
>
> Or should I leave it alone? It's running fine.
>
> By the way my car is a 1987 Honda Accord DX hatchback with
> 140,000
> miles, and I bought it 2 years ago with only 119,000 miles
> on it -- so
> I'm not sure if the previous owner was doing REGULAR
> tranny servicings.




Elle 01-02-2007 05:31 PM

Re: Manual Transmission !
 
The maintenance schedule for this car does prescribe regular
MTF changes. Now if you use the newer Honda OEM MTF, you can
increase that a lot, IMO, and it does not cost you more. For
my experience on this with my 1991 Civic, see
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id20.html .

Lose this mechanic of yours.

<kobsef@gmail.com> wrote
> Is there any truth to the old adage, "the grease that
> holds the engine
> together" ??
>
> Upon asking him about servicing my manual transmission my
> mechanic
> basically told me "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He
> said that if I
> had been servicing the transmission REGULARLY then it
> would be
> recommended, but if it is long overdue yet running fine
> then just leave
> it alone.
>
> Is he crazy?
>
> Should I put new Honda MTF in the tranny, and should I do
> anything
> BEYOND that (have it cleaned/serviced)
>
> Or should I leave it alone? It's running fine.
>
> By the way my car is a 1987 Honda Accord DX hatchback with
> 140,000
> miles, and I bought it 2 years ago with only 119,000 miles
> on it -- so
> I'm not sure if the previous owner was doing REGULAR
> tranny servicings.




Joe LaVigne 01-02-2007 06:17 PM

Re: Manual Transmission !
 
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:09:27 -0800, kobsef wrote:

> Is there any truth to the old adage, "the grease that holds the engine
> together" ??
>
> Upon asking him about servicing my manual transmission my mechanic
> basically told me "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He said that if I
> had been servicing the transmission REGULARLY then it would be
> recommended, but if it is long overdue yet running fine then just leave
> it alone.
>
> Is he crazy?
>
> Should I put new Honda MTF in the tranny, and should I do anything
> BEYOND that (have it cleaned/serviced)
>
> Or should I leave it alone? It's running fine.
>
> By the way my car is a 1987 Honda Accord DX hatchback with 140,000
> miles, and I bought it 2 years ago with only 119,000 miles on it -- so
> I'm not sure if the previous owner was doing REGULAR tranny servicings.
>
>
> Thanks for the help!


Your mechanic is nuts. Or, perhaps, he'd rather you have a catastrophic
failure to help him make more cash...

Either way, replace your tranny fluid. No cleaning, no flush and fill,
just drain it and fill it. After the drain and fill, drive for a week,
then repeat. Then drive another week, and repeat again. Now it will be
pretty much like new.

Also, be sure you are using Honda MTF for your tranny. Do not use WD30,
or Generic MTF. Pay extra, and get the OEM stuff from the dealer.

Joe LaVigne 01-02-2007 06:17 PM

Re: Manual Transmission !
 
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:09:27 -0800, kobsef wrote:

> Is there any truth to the old adage, "the grease that holds the engine
> together" ??
>
> Upon asking him about servicing my manual transmission my mechanic
> basically told me "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He said that if I
> had been servicing the transmission REGULARLY then it would be
> recommended, but if it is long overdue yet running fine then just leave
> it alone.
>
> Is he crazy?
>
> Should I put new Honda MTF in the tranny, and should I do anything
> BEYOND that (have it cleaned/serviced)
>
> Or should I leave it alone? It's running fine.
>
> By the way my car is a 1987 Honda Accord DX hatchback with 140,000
> miles, and I bought it 2 years ago with only 119,000 miles on it -- so
> I'm not sure if the previous owner was doing REGULAR tranny servicings.
>
>
> Thanks for the help!


Your mechanic is nuts. Or, perhaps, he'd rather you have a catastrophic
failure to help him make more cash...

Either way, replace your tranny fluid. No cleaning, no flush and fill,
just drain it and fill it. After the drain and fill, drive for a week,
then repeat. Then drive another week, and repeat again. Now it will be
pretty much like new.

Also, be sure you are using Honda MTF for your tranny. Do not use WD30,
or Generic MTF. Pay extra, and get the OEM stuff from the dealer.

Joe LaVigne 01-02-2007 06:17 PM

Re: Manual Transmission !
 
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:09:27 -0800, kobsef wrote:

> Is there any truth to the old adage, "the grease that holds the engine
> together" ??
>
> Upon asking him about servicing my manual transmission my mechanic
> basically told me "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He said that if I
> had been servicing the transmission REGULARLY then it would be
> recommended, but if it is long overdue yet running fine then just leave
> it alone.
>
> Is he crazy?
>
> Should I put new Honda MTF in the tranny, and should I do anything
> BEYOND that (have it cleaned/serviced)
>
> Or should I leave it alone? It's running fine.
>
> By the way my car is a 1987 Honda Accord DX hatchback with 140,000
> miles, and I bought it 2 years ago with only 119,000 miles on it -- so
> I'm not sure if the previous owner was doing REGULAR tranny servicings.
>
>
> Thanks for the help!


Your mechanic is nuts. Or, perhaps, he'd rather you have a catastrophic
failure to help him make more cash...

Either way, replace your tranny fluid. No cleaning, no flush and fill,
just drain it and fill it. After the drain and fill, drive for a week,
then repeat. Then drive another week, and repeat again. Now it will be
pretty much like new.

Also, be sure you are using Honda MTF for your tranny. Do not use WD30,
or Generic MTF. Pay extra, and get the OEM stuff from the dealer.

jim beam 01-02-2007 06:26 PM

Re: Manual Transmission !
 
Joe LaVigne wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:09:27 -0800, kobsef wrote:
>
>> Is there any truth to the old adage, "the grease that holds the engine
>> together" ??
>>
>> Upon asking him about servicing my manual transmission my mechanic
>> basically told me "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He said that if I
>> had been servicing the transmission REGULARLY then it would be
>> recommended, but if it is long overdue yet running fine then just leave
>> it alone.
>>
>> Is he crazy?
>>
>> Should I put new Honda MTF in the tranny, and should I do anything
>> BEYOND that (have it cleaned/serviced)
>>
>> Or should I leave it alone? It's running fine.
>>
>> By the way my car is a 1987 Honda Accord DX hatchback with 140,000
>> miles, and I bought it 2 years ago with only 119,000 miles on it -- so
>> I'm not sure if the previous owner was doing REGULAR tranny servicings.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the help!

>
> Your mechanic is nuts. Or, perhaps, he'd rather you have a catastrophic
> failure to help him make more cash...
>
> Either way, replace your tranny fluid. No cleaning, no flush and fill,
> just drain it and fill it. After the drain and fill, drive for a week,
> then repeat. Then drive another week, and repeat again. Now it will be
> pretty much like new.


not necessary with the stick, just the auto. you can drain 100% on the
stick, you can only drain ~30% on the auto 'cos of the torque converter.

>
> Also, be sure you are using Honda MTF for your tranny. Do not use WD30,
> or Generic MTF. Pay extra, and get the OEM stuff from the dealer.


agreed.

jim beam 01-02-2007 06:26 PM

Re: Manual Transmission !
 
Joe LaVigne wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:09:27 -0800, kobsef wrote:
>
>> Is there any truth to the old adage, "the grease that holds the engine
>> together" ??
>>
>> Upon asking him about servicing my manual transmission my mechanic
>> basically told me "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He said that if I
>> had been servicing the transmission REGULARLY then it would be
>> recommended, but if it is long overdue yet running fine then just leave
>> it alone.
>>
>> Is he crazy?
>>
>> Should I put new Honda MTF in the tranny, and should I do anything
>> BEYOND that (have it cleaned/serviced)
>>
>> Or should I leave it alone? It's running fine.
>>
>> By the way my car is a 1987 Honda Accord DX hatchback with 140,000
>> miles, and I bought it 2 years ago with only 119,000 miles on it -- so
>> I'm not sure if the previous owner was doing REGULAR tranny servicings.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the help!

>
> Your mechanic is nuts. Or, perhaps, he'd rather you have a catastrophic
> failure to help him make more cash...
>
> Either way, replace your tranny fluid. No cleaning, no flush and fill,
> just drain it and fill it. After the drain and fill, drive for a week,
> then repeat. Then drive another week, and repeat again. Now it will be
> pretty much like new.


not necessary with the stick, just the auto. you can drain 100% on the
stick, you can only drain ~30% on the auto 'cos of the torque converter.

>
> Also, be sure you are using Honda MTF for your tranny. Do not use WD30,
> or Generic MTF. Pay extra, and get the OEM stuff from the dealer.


agreed.

jim beam 01-02-2007 06:26 PM

Re: Manual Transmission !
 
Joe LaVigne wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:09:27 -0800, kobsef wrote:
>
>> Is there any truth to the old adage, "the grease that holds the engine
>> together" ??
>>
>> Upon asking him about servicing my manual transmission my mechanic
>> basically told me "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He said that if I
>> had been servicing the transmission REGULARLY then it would be
>> recommended, but if it is long overdue yet running fine then just leave
>> it alone.
>>
>> Is he crazy?
>>
>> Should I put new Honda MTF in the tranny, and should I do anything
>> BEYOND that (have it cleaned/serviced)
>>
>> Or should I leave it alone? It's running fine.
>>
>> By the way my car is a 1987 Honda Accord DX hatchback with 140,000
>> miles, and I bought it 2 years ago with only 119,000 miles on it -- so
>> I'm not sure if the previous owner was doing REGULAR tranny servicings.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the help!

>
> Your mechanic is nuts. Or, perhaps, he'd rather you have a catastrophic
> failure to help him make more cash...
>
> Either way, replace your tranny fluid. No cleaning, no flush and fill,
> just drain it and fill it. After the drain and fill, drive for a week,
> then repeat. Then drive another week, and repeat again. Now it will be
> pretty much like new.


not necessary with the stick, just the auto. you can drain 100% on the
stick, you can only drain ~30% on the auto 'cos of the torque converter.

>
> Also, be sure you are using Honda MTF for your tranny. Do not use WD30,
> or Generic MTF. Pay extra, and get the OEM stuff from the dealer.


agreed.

Tegger 01-02-2007 09:38 PM

Re: Manual Transmission !
 
kobsef@gmail.com wrote in news:1167775767.584307.253240
@n51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> Is there any truth to the old adage, "the grease that holds the engine
> together" ??
>
> Upon asking him about servicing my manual transmission my mechanic
> basically told me "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He said that if I
> had been servicing the transmission REGULARLY then it would be
> recommended, but if it is long overdue yet running fine then just leave
> it alone.
>
> Is he crazy?





Yup.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 01-02-2007 09:38 PM

Re: Manual Transmission !
 
kobsef@gmail.com wrote in news:1167775767.584307.253240
@n51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> Is there any truth to the old adage, "the grease that holds the engine
> together" ??
>
> Upon asking him about servicing my manual transmission my mechanic
> basically told me "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He said that if I
> had been servicing the transmission REGULARLY then it would be
> recommended, but if it is long overdue yet running fine then just leave
> it alone.
>
> Is he crazy?





Yup.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 01-02-2007 09:38 PM

Re: Manual Transmission !
 
kobsef@gmail.com wrote in news:1167775767.584307.253240
@n51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> Is there any truth to the old adage, "the grease that holds the engine
> together" ??
>
> Upon asking him about servicing my manual transmission my mechanic
> basically told me "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He said that if I
> had been servicing the transmission REGULARLY then it would be
> recommended, but if it is long overdue yet running fine then just leave
> it alone.
>
> Is he crazy?





Yup.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


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