Is it necessary to buy OEM batteries?
 

Honda Civic 1998 EX 4dr 5-speed

Is it necessary to buy an OEM battery from Honda? The 10-years-old
original car battery in my Civic died this morning. Are the ones from
Sears ok?

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ident wrote:
> Honda Civic 1998 EX 4dr 5-speed
>
> Is it necessary to buy an OEM battery from Honda? The 10-years-old
> original car battery in my Civic died this morning. Are the ones from
> Sears ok?

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Anything you want, but Honda batteries are sometimes a good price, and
look good if you plan to resell. YMMV A dealer will probably charge you
1/2 hour to do a job you can do yourself. Cash and carry.

'Curly'

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motsco_ wrote:

> ident wrote:
> > Honda Civic 1998 EX 4dr 5-speed
> >
> > Is it necessary to buy an OEM battery from Honda? The 10-years-old
> > original car battery in my Civic died this morning. Are the ones
> > from Sears ok?
>
> -------------------
>
> Anything you want, but Honda batteries are sometimes a good price,
> and look good if you plan to resell. YMMV A dealer will probably
> charge you 1/2 hour to do a job you can do yourself. Cash and carry.
>
> 'Curly'

I thought maybe OEM was higher quality. Replacing a battery every 10
years is better than every 3 years or so. I bought the car with the
intent of driving it to the ground.

Cost comparison:
$100 Diehard Gold North (700amp, 3yr warranty)
$ 93 Honda OEM

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"ident" <asdf@asdf.eu> wrote
> I thought maybe OEM was higher quality. Replacing a
> battery every 10
> years is better than every 3 years or so. I bought the car
> with the
> intent of driving it to the ground.
>
> Cost comparison:
> $100 Diehard Gold North (700amp, 3yr warranty)
> $ 93 Honda OEM

Find a place that sells the very popular Interstate battery.
IIRC around 2004 when I last bought a battery for my 1991
Civic, I found that Firestone sells them. Subsequently I
found the little import independent shop down the road also
sells Interstate for an even better price. Interstate is OEM
for Hondas.

Ten years is a long time for a battery. One caveat: Remember
that running an alternator using an old battery reduces
alternator life. It's better to pre-emptively replace. Of
course, in your case, this may beg the question of when
exactly this would be.

My 91 Civic's batteries were dying about every four years
for the first 12 years, whence I started replacing them
pre-emptively. The batteries always had a few "jumps" on
them, though, and running them down to this point reduces
battery life.

Re: Is it necessary to buy OEM batteries?
 

On Feb 4, 12:43 pm, "ident" <a...@asdf.eu> wrote:
> motsco_ wrote:
> > ident wrote:
> > > Honda Civic 1998 EX 4dr 5-speed
>
> > > Is it necessary to buy an OEM battery from Honda? The 10-years-old
> > > original car battery in my Civic died this morning. Are the ones
> > > from Sears ok?
>
> > -------------------
>
> > Anything you want, but Honda batteries are sometimes a good price,
> > and look good if you plan to resell. YMMV A dealer will probably
> > charge you 1/2 hour to do a job you can do yourself. Cash and carry.
>
> > 'Curly'
>
> I thought maybe OEM was higher quality. Replacing a battery every 10
> years is better than every 3 years or so. I bought the car with the
> intent of driving it to the ground.
>
> Cost comparison:
> $100 Diehard Gold North (700amp, 3yr warranty)
> $ 93 Honda OEM

i bought EverStart at Walmart for $35 (group size 26). Couldn't resist
the cheap price and the label that says "Dist. by Johnson Controls"

Honda OEMs are of the standard group size, and there's a reason for
that. If you buy other brands make sure you pick the standard group
size for your car. Honda I4 engines need very little effort to crank
them over. A battery of bigger size is a waste and a drain to the
charging system. To get it recharged the alternator has to work harder
and will fail prematurely and in effect, killing the battery
prematurely...

cheers

Re: Is it necessary to buy OEM batteries?
 

ident wrote:
> Honda Civic 1998 EX 4dr 5-speed
>
> Is it necessary to buy an OEM battery from Honda? The 10-years-old
> original car battery in my Civic died this morning. Are the ones from
> Sears ok?

The ones from Sears are fine. Get the best one they sell.

Jeff

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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:QNJpj.81669$ds2.55191@trnddc05...
> ident wrote:
>> Honda Civic 1998 EX 4dr 5-speed
>>
>> Is it necessary to buy an OEM battery from Honda? The 10-years-old
>> original car battery in my Civic died this morning. Are the ones from
>> Sears ok?
>
> The ones from Sears are fine. Get the best one they sell.
>
> Jeff

I second that....always bought the 6-yr battery and replaced it between the
5-6 year point.

Dave C.

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"ident" <asdf@asdf.eu> wrote in news:13qef2085ucco98@corp.supernews.com:

> Honda Civic 1998 EX 4dr 5-speed
>
> Is it necessary to buy an OEM battery from Honda? The 10-years-old
> original car battery in my Civic died this morning. Are the ones from
> Sears ok?



Aftermarket is fine. Provided you buy a battery that fits properly and
meets the specs given in the Owner's Manual.

Sears is good.

Also good batteries:
Interstate
Wal-Mart's Eveready.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

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Elle wrote:

> "ident" <asdf@asdf.eu> wrote
> > I thought maybe OEM was higher quality. Replacing a battery every
> > 10 years is better than every 3 years or so. I bought the car with
> > the intent of driving it to the ground.
> >
> > Cost comparison:
> > $100 Diehard Gold North (700amp, 3yr warranty)
> > $ 93 Honda OEM
>
> Find a place that sells the very popular Interstate battery. IIRC
> around 2004 when I last bought a battery for my 1991 Civic, I found
> that Firestone sells them. Subsequently I found the little import
> independent shop down the road also sells Interstate for an even
> better price. Interstate is OEM for Hondas.
>
> Ten years is a long time for a battery. One caveat: Remember that
> running an alternator using an old battery reduces alternator life.
> It's better to pre-emptively replace. Of course, in your case, this
> may beg the question of when exactly this would be.
>
> My 91 Civic's batteries were dying about every four years for the
> first 12 years, whence I started replacing them pre-emptively. The
> batteries always had a few "jumps" on them, though, and running them
> down to this point reduces battery life.


Thanks all for the replies. I bought the Interstate Mega-Tron (MT-51R)
for $82.95 before taxes, as listed on the Interstatebatteries.com
website. The website lists local places to buy it and found a import
specialist place about 4/5 miles out. I actually carried it home by
myself thinking that 28 lbs wasn't much. It was heavy, but at least I
got my workout for the day.

Five or six years between battery replacement sounds like a good plan.

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"ident" <asdf@asdf.eu> wrote
> Thanks all for the replies. I bought the Interstate
> Mega-Tron (MT-51R)
> for $82.95 before taxes, as listed on the
> Interstatebatteries.com
> website. The website lists local places to buy it and
> found a import
> specialist place about 4/5 miles out. I actually carried
> it home by
> myself thinking that 28 lbs wasn't much. It was heavy, but
> at least I
> got my workout for the day.

Nice update and info for others in the future.

You remind me of me, except I installed the new Interstate
battery I bought at Firestone right in its parking lot. :-)
Maybe because I could dispose of it right there? Or doing so
was part of the purchase plan? Something like that.

> Five or six years between battery replacement sounds like
> a good plan.

Inquiring minds likely want to know: Do you live in a cold
climate? Most reports here put Interstate/OEM battery life
at not more than about six years. Shorter in warm climates
and/or with a lot of jumps.

Re: Is it necessary to buy OEM batteries?
 

Tegger wrote:

> "ident" <asdf@asdf.eu> wrote in
> news:13qef2085ucco98@corp.supernews.com:
>
> > Honda Civic 1998 EX 4dr 5-speed
> >
> > Is it necessary to buy an OEM battery from Honda? The 10-years-old
> > original car battery in my Civic died this morning. Are the ones
> > from Sears ok?
>
>
>
> Aftermarket is fine. Provided you buy a battery that fits properly
> and meets the specs given in the Owner's Manual.
>
> Sears is good.
>
> Also good batteries:
> Interstate
> Wal-Mart's Eveready.

The Diehard Gold North had a little bigger dimension than the
Interstate MT-51R. The Interstate battery fit perfectly; the Diehard
battery would not have fit as well, I think.

Diehard: 10-5/16 length x 6-7/8 width
Interstate: 9.38 length x 5.13 width

Re: Is it necessary to buy OEM batteries?
 

Elle wrote:

> "ident" <asdf@asdf.eu> wrote
> > Thanks all for the replies. I bought the Interstate Mega-Tron
> > (MT-51R) for $82.95 before taxes, as listed on the
> > Interstatebatteries.com website. The website lists local places to
> > buy it and found a import specialist place about 4/5 miles out. I
> > actually carried it home by myself thinking that 28 lbs wasn't
> > much. It was heavy, but at least I got my workout for the day.
>
> Nice update and info for others in the future.
>
> You remind me of me, except I installed the new Interstate battery I
> bought at Firestone right in its parking lot. :-) Maybe because I
> could dispose of it right there? Or doing so was part of the purchase
> plan? Something like that.
>
> > Five or six years between battery replacement sounds like a good
> > plan.
>
> Inquiring minds likely want to know: Do you live in a cold climate?
> Most reports here put Interstate/OEM battery life at not more than
> about six years. Shorter in warm climates and/or with a lot of jumps.

I live in Minnesota (32 deg. with light snow). The price for the
battery is $1 more if you don't return the old battery.

My old battery died once last winter when the temp was -20 degrees. It
required a jump to start.

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bi241@scn.org wrote:
> > > > Honda Civic 1998 EX 4dr 5-speed
> > Cost comparison:
> > $100 Diehard Gold North (700amp, 3yr warranty)
> > $ 93 Honda OEM
>
> i bought EverStart at Walmart for $35 (group size 26). Couldn't resist
> the cheap price and the label that says "Dist. by Johnson Controls"
>
> Honda OEMs are of the standard group size, and there's a reason for
> that. If you buy other brands make sure you pick the standard group
> size for your car. Honda I4 engines need very little effort to crank
> them over. A battery of bigger size is a waste and a drain to the
> charging system. To get it recharged the alternator has to work harder
> and will fail prematurely and in effect, killing the battery
> prematurely...
>
> cheers

The owners manual doesn't list the battery group size, unfortunately.

The OEM battery is 500 amps (51R/500AMP85 as listed at a Honda eStore).
The Interstate MT-51R battery is also 500 amps. The Diehard is 700
amps, which would have been more than required and a waste, I guess.
You guys saved me $10-$17.

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"ident" <asdf@asdf.eu> wrote in message
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> bi241@scn.org wrote:
///snipped///
> The owners manual doesn't list the battery group size, unfortunately.
>
> The OEM battery is 500 amps (51R/500AMP85 as listed at a Honda eStore).
> The Interstate MT-51R battery is also 500 amps. The Diehard is 700
> amps, which would have been more than required and a waste, I guess.
> You guys saved me $10-$17.

Two points: 1) the OEM battery is a Group 51 with reversed posts (the 51R in
the listing at the Honda eStore), with a capacity of 500AMP/h); 2) The 700Ah
rating of the DieHard is NOT a waste it only means that there are 700A
available IF required. Contrary to another poster, this will not shorten
your charging circuits life! Now, you say you saved money buying the
Interstate, is this correct? What is the warranty on each battery? If both
are the same then you did save some money. If the DieHard had a better
warranty then perhaps you didn't really save money. This, naturally, was
your choice. Good luck. Keep your connections clean and your battery dry.

DaveD

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On Feb 5, 3:12 am, "Dave and Trudy" <dtdod...@acsalaska.net> wrote:
> "ident" <a...@asdf.eu> wrote in message
>
> news:13qf4hjnh5v9j4a@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > bi...@scn.org wrote:
> ///snipped///
> > The owners manual doesn't list the battery group size, unfortunately.
>
> > The OEM battery is 500 amps (51R/500AMP85 as listed at a Honda eStore).
> > The Interstate MT-51R battery is also 500 amps. The Diehard is 700
> > amps, which would have been more than required and a waste, I guess.
> > You guys saved me $10-$17.
>
> Two points: 1) the OEM battery is a Group 51 with reversed posts (the 51R in
> the listing at the Honda eStore), with a capacity of 500AMP/h); 2) The 700Ah
> rating of the DieHard is NOT a waste it only means that there are 700A
> available IF required. Contrary to another poster, this will not shorten
> your charging circuits life! Now, you say you saved money buying the
> Interstate, is this correct? What is the warranty on each battery? If both
> are the same then you did save some money. If the DieHard had a better
> warranty then perhaps you didn't really save money. This, naturally, was
> your choice. Good luck. Keep your connections clean and your battery dry.
>
> DaveD


electric circuit theory is above the scope of pop science, and is
abstract to the average Joe

but a layman can think about the starting/charging sytem in a car as a
air compressor unit. A battery stores energy in form of electrical
power and a compressor tank stores energy in form of pneumatic power.
They are charged by the alternator and the compressor pump,
respectively.

Now suppose you own a air compressor unit. Will it be wise to remove
the stock tank and replace it with a bigger tank. Will the expense be
justified? Will that help you accomplish more, doing the same tasks
and using the same tools? And in order to achive and maintain the
desired air pressure in the bigger tank, will the pump stay on longer,
or shorter or the same?

Last but not least, the last figure on the model number is CCA (cold
cranking amps) and the unit of electric current is Ampere or A
Do not get confused with Ah or Ampere-hour which is the unit of
electric charge and it's NOT a specification of automotive batteries.
Your car is different from your cell phone or your digital camera, you
don't run your car's battery till it's completely discharged.