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Bill B. Johnson 11-24-2003 02:48 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
In article <3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it> wrote:

> hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its actually
> better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it?
>
> thnx


Unless you plan to race your vehicle--don't do it. I don't think that most
race car drivers would use nitrogen in their tires.

Scott MacLean 11-24-2003 03:25 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Yeah, those hydrogen filled tires and aftermarket bumper-mounted rocket
boosters really don't go together very well.

"Carl S. Moore" <carl.moore2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Mjdwb.214416$mZ5.1613052@attbi_s54...
> Good point. Hadn't thought about that. I was going to
> use the helium after the hydrogen fills resulted in the loss
> of my first car........
>
> Carl
>
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> news:u87wb.796$dt2.95218@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > Except helium atoms are much smaller - the tires will tend to go flat

faster
> > from helium leaching through the porous rubber. Ever seen a helium

balloon
> > after a week?

>
>




Scott MacLean 11-24-2003 03:25 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Yeah, those hydrogen filled tires and aftermarket bumper-mounted rocket
boosters really don't go together very well.

"Carl S. Moore" <carl.moore2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Mjdwb.214416$mZ5.1613052@attbi_s54...
> Good point. Hadn't thought about that. I was going to
> use the helium after the hydrogen fills resulted in the loss
> of my first car........
>
> Carl
>
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> news:u87wb.796$dt2.95218@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > Except helium atoms are much smaller - the tires will tend to go flat

faster
> > from helium leaching through the porous rubber. Ever seen a helium

balloon
> > after a week?

>
>




Scott MacLean 11-24-2003 03:25 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Yeah, those hydrogen filled tires and aftermarket bumper-mounted rocket
boosters really don't go together very well.

"Carl S. Moore" <carl.moore2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Mjdwb.214416$mZ5.1613052@attbi_s54...
> Good point. Hadn't thought about that. I was going to
> use the helium after the hydrogen fills resulted in the loss
> of my first car........
>
> Carl
>
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> news:u87wb.796$dt2.95218@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > Except helium atoms are much smaller - the tires will tend to go flat

faster
> > from helium leaching through the porous rubber. Ever seen a helium

balloon
> > after a week?

>
>




Scott MacLean 11-24-2003 03:25 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Yeah, those hydrogen filled tires and aftermarket bumper-mounted rocket
boosters really don't go together very well.

"Carl S. Moore" <carl.moore2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Mjdwb.214416$mZ5.1613052@attbi_s54...
> Good point. Hadn't thought about that. I was going to
> use the helium after the hydrogen fills resulted in the loss
> of my first car........
>
> Carl
>
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> news:u87wb.796$dt2.95218@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > Except helium atoms are much smaller - the tires will tend to go flat

faster
> > from helium leaching through the porous rubber. Ever seen a helium

balloon
> > after a week?

>
>




Scott MacLean 11-24-2003 03:31 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated. However
more importantly it typically comes from a tank which is very dry, so there
is very little moisture to condense or turn to steam inside the tire, or
corrode the rim. Air tanks filled with compressed air from a nearby
compressor have the moisture from the surrounding air within them.

"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031148250001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it>

wrote:
>
> > hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its

actually
> > better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it?
> >
> > thnx

>
> Unless you plan to race your vehicle--don't do it. I don't think that most
> race car drivers would use nitrogen in their tires.




Scott MacLean 11-24-2003 03:31 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated. However
more importantly it typically comes from a tank which is very dry, so there
is very little moisture to condense or turn to steam inside the tire, or
corrode the rim. Air tanks filled with compressed air from a nearby
compressor have the moisture from the surrounding air within them.

"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031148250001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it>

wrote:
>
> > hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its

actually
> > better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it?
> >
> > thnx

>
> Unless you plan to race your vehicle--don't do it. I don't think that most
> race car drivers would use nitrogen in their tires.




Scott MacLean 11-24-2003 03:31 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated. However
more importantly it typically comes from a tank which is very dry, so there
is very little moisture to condense or turn to steam inside the tire, or
corrode the rim. Air tanks filled with compressed air from a nearby
compressor have the moisture from the surrounding air within them.

"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031148250001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it>

wrote:
>
> > hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its

actually
> > better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it?
> >
> > thnx

>
> Unless you plan to race your vehicle--don't do it. I don't think that most
> race car drivers would use nitrogen in their tires.




Scott MacLean 11-24-2003 03:31 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated. However
more importantly it typically comes from a tank which is very dry, so there
is very little moisture to condense or turn to steam inside the tire, or
corrode the rim. Air tanks filled with compressed air from a nearby
compressor have the moisture from the surrounding air within them.

"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031148250001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it>

wrote:
>
> > hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its

actually
> > better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it?
> >
> > thnx

>
> Unless you plan to race your vehicle--don't do it. I don't think that most
> race car drivers would use nitrogen in their tires.




Suman Menon 11-24-2003 07:43 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Hi there,

I'm currently using Nitrogen air on my Prelude tyres. It's owkay to top-up
the usual gas station's compressed air when low but ensure you do not fill
in more than 10% of the total air (tyre). True it doesn't expand as much
and would obviously seem more useful to a racing driver; however using
Nitrogen also helps prevent steering vibrations at higher speeds. At the
very least you wouldn't need to top-up air as regularly as the usual
compressed air. All the above is subjected to normal and occasionally
high-speed driving and not to be used under racing conditions.

Hope this helps,

Suman



On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Scott MacLean wrote:

> Yeah, those hydrogen filled tires and aftermarket bumper-mounted rocket
> boosters really don't go together very well.
>
> "Carl S. Moore" <carl.moore2@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Mjdwb.214416$mZ5.1613052@attbi_s54...
> > Good point. Hadn't thought about that. I was going to
> > use the helium after the hydrogen fills resulted in the loss
> > of my first car........
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:u87wb.796$dt2.95218@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > Except helium atoms are much smaller - the tires will tend to go flat

> faster
> > > from helium leaching through the porous rubber. Ever seen a helium

> balloon
> > > after a week?

> >
> >

>
>
>



Suman Menon 11-24-2003 07:43 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Hi there,

I'm currently using Nitrogen air on my Prelude tyres. It's owkay to top-up
the usual gas station's compressed air when low but ensure you do not fill
in more than 10% of the total air (tyre). True it doesn't expand as much
and would obviously seem more useful to a racing driver; however using
Nitrogen also helps prevent steering vibrations at higher speeds. At the
very least you wouldn't need to top-up air as regularly as the usual
compressed air. All the above is subjected to normal and occasionally
high-speed driving and not to be used under racing conditions.

Hope this helps,

Suman



On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Scott MacLean wrote:

> Yeah, those hydrogen filled tires and aftermarket bumper-mounted rocket
> boosters really don't go together very well.
>
> "Carl S. Moore" <carl.moore2@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Mjdwb.214416$mZ5.1613052@attbi_s54...
> > Good point. Hadn't thought about that. I was going to
> > use the helium after the hydrogen fills resulted in the loss
> > of my first car........
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:u87wb.796$dt2.95218@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > Except helium atoms are much smaller - the tires will tend to go flat

> faster
> > > from helium leaching through the porous rubber. Ever seen a helium

> balloon
> > > after a week?

> >
> >

>
>
>



Suman Menon 11-24-2003 07:43 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Hi there,

I'm currently using Nitrogen air on my Prelude tyres. It's owkay to top-up
the usual gas station's compressed air when low but ensure you do not fill
in more than 10% of the total air (tyre). True it doesn't expand as much
and would obviously seem more useful to a racing driver; however using
Nitrogen also helps prevent steering vibrations at higher speeds. At the
very least you wouldn't need to top-up air as regularly as the usual
compressed air. All the above is subjected to normal and occasionally
high-speed driving and not to be used under racing conditions.

Hope this helps,

Suman



On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Scott MacLean wrote:

> Yeah, those hydrogen filled tires and aftermarket bumper-mounted rocket
> boosters really don't go together very well.
>
> "Carl S. Moore" <carl.moore2@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Mjdwb.214416$mZ5.1613052@attbi_s54...
> > Good point. Hadn't thought about that. I was going to
> > use the helium after the hydrogen fills resulted in the loss
> > of my first car........
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:u87wb.796$dt2.95218@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > Except helium atoms are much smaller - the tires will tend to go flat

> faster
> > > from helium leaching through the porous rubber. Ever seen a helium

> balloon
> > > after a week?

> >
> >

>
>
>



Suman Menon 11-24-2003 07:43 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Hi there,

I'm currently using Nitrogen air on my Prelude tyres. It's owkay to top-up
the usual gas station's compressed air when low but ensure you do not fill
in more than 10% of the total air (tyre). True it doesn't expand as much
and would obviously seem more useful to a racing driver; however using
Nitrogen also helps prevent steering vibrations at higher speeds. At the
very least you wouldn't need to top-up air as regularly as the usual
compressed air. All the above is subjected to normal and occasionally
high-speed driving and not to be used under racing conditions.

Hope this helps,

Suman



On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Scott MacLean wrote:

> Yeah, those hydrogen filled tires and aftermarket bumper-mounted rocket
> boosters really don't go together very well.
>
> "Carl S. Moore" <carl.moore2@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Mjdwb.214416$mZ5.1613052@attbi_s54...
> > Good point. Hadn't thought about that. I was going to
> > use the helium after the hydrogen fills resulted in the loss
> > of my first car........
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:u87wb.796$dt2.95218@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > Except helium atoms are much smaller - the tires will tend to go flat

> faster
> > > from helium leaching through the porous rubber. Ever seen a helium

> balloon
> > > after a week?

> >
> >

>
>
>



John Ours 11-24-2003 11:27 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.


Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
ideal gases)

-John

John Ours 11-24-2003 11:27 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.


Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
ideal gases)

-John

John Ours 11-24-2003 11:27 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.


Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
ideal gases)

-John

mentorcn 11-25-2003 02:00 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
wow...I use exclusively methane in mine.....it's just a tad hard to pump
them up :-P
"John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m...
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message

news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.

>
> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
> ideal gases)
>
> -John




mentorcn 11-25-2003 02:00 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
wow...I use exclusively methane in mine.....it's just a tad hard to pump
them up :-P
"John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m...
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message

news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.

>
> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
> ideal gases)
>
> -John




mentorcn 11-25-2003 02:00 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
wow...I use exclusively methane in mine.....it's just a tad hard to pump
them up :-P
"John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m...
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message

news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.

>
> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
> ideal gases)
>
> -John




Scott MacLean 11-25-2003 10:42 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
I should clarify: Some race teams use nitrogen because they THINK it expands
less when heated. :)

"John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m...
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message

news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.

>
> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
> ideal gases)
>
> -John




Scott MacLean 11-25-2003 10:42 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
I should clarify: Some race teams use nitrogen because they THINK it expands
less when heated. :)

"John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m...
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message

news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.

>
> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
> ideal gases)
>
> -John




Scott MacLean 11-25-2003 10:42 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
I should clarify: Some race teams use nitrogen because they THINK it expands
less when heated. :)

"John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m...
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message

news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.

>
> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
> ideal gases)
>
> -John




Jim Yanik 11-25-2003 09:06 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in
news:qLKwb.11062$dt2.721648@news20.bellglobal.com:

> I should clarify: Some race teams use nitrogen because they THINK it
> expands less when heated. :)
>
> "John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m...
>> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message

> news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
>> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.

>>
>> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
>> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
>> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
>> ideal gases)
>>
>> -John

>
>
>


Race teams use nitrogen because:

1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs no
external power source like a compressor.
2.It's dry,contains no water.
3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion)
4.cost is less than other gases??

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Jim Yanik 11-25-2003 09:06 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in
news:qLKwb.11062$dt2.721648@news20.bellglobal.com:

> I should clarify: Some race teams use nitrogen because they THINK it
> expands less when heated. :)
>
> "John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m...
>> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message

> news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
>> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.

>>
>> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
>> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
>> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
>> ideal gases)
>>
>> -John

>
>
>


Race teams use nitrogen because:

1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs no
external power source like a compressor.
2.It's dry,contains no water.
3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion)
4.cost is less than other gases??

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Jim Yanik 11-25-2003 09:06 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in
news:qLKwb.11062$dt2.721648@news20.bellglobal.com:

> I should clarify: Some race teams use nitrogen because they THINK it
> expands less when heated. :)
>
> "John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m...
>> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message

> news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
>> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.

>>
>> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
>> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
>> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
>> ideal gases)
>>
>> -John

>
>
>


Race teams use nitrogen because:

1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs no
external power source like a compressor.
2.It's dry,contains no water.
3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion)
4.cost is less than other gases??

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Scott MacLean 11-26-2003 11:12 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
> Race teams use nitrogen because:
>
> 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs

no
> external power source like a compressor.
> 2.It's dry,contains no water.
> 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion)
> 4.cost is less than other gases??


The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from the
same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason #1,
you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen,
that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except for
the Ferrari team.



Scott MacLean 11-26-2003 11:12 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
> Race teams use nitrogen because:
>
> 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs

no
> external power source like a compressor.
> 2.It's dry,contains no water.
> 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion)
> 4.cost is less than other gases??


The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from the
same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason #1,
you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen,
that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except for
the Ferrari team.



Scott MacLean 11-26-2003 11:12 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
> Race teams use nitrogen because:
>
> 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs

no
> external power source like a compressor.
> 2.It's dry,contains no water.
> 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion)
> 4.cost is less than other gases??


The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from the
same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason #1,
you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen,
that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except for
the Ferrari team.



Sandro 11-27-2003 01:32 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
maybe thats why they r the best, u should put nitrogen then u will be the
best
;)

Sandro

"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
news:Yh4xb.14442$dt2.1029459@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Race teams use nitrogen because:
> >
> > 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs

> no
> > external power source like a compressor.
> > 2.It's dry,contains no water.
> > 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion)
> > 4.cost is less than other gases??

>
> The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from the
> same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason

#1,
> you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen,
> that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except for
> the Ferrari team.
>
>




Sandro 11-27-2003 01:32 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
maybe thats why they r the best, u should put nitrogen then u will be the
best
;)

Sandro

"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
news:Yh4xb.14442$dt2.1029459@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Race teams use nitrogen because:
> >
> > 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs

> no
> > external power source like a compressor.
> > 2.It's dry,contains no water.
> > 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion)
> > 4.cost is less than other gases??

>
> The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from the
> same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason

#1,
> you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen,
> that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except for
> the Ferrari team.
>
>




Sandro 11-27-2003 01:32 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
maybe thats why they r the best, u should put nitrogen then u will be the
best
;)

Sandro

"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
news:Yh4xb.14442$dt2.1029459@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Race teams use nitrogen because:
> >
> > 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs

> no
> > external power source like a compressor.
> > 2.It's dry,contains no water.
> > 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion)
> > 4.cost is less than other gases??

>
> The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from the
> same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason

#1,
> you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen,
> that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except for
> the Ferrari team.
>
>




Scott MacLean 11-27-2003 12:42 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Actually, we won the CASC GTA championship this year, so we must be doing
something right. :)

http://www.casc.on.ca/RACE-PS.asp

"Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au> wrote in message
news:3fc59a71$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> maybe thats why they r the best, u should put nitrogen then u will be the
> best
> ;)
>
> Sandro
>
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> news:Yh4xb.14442$dt2.1029459@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > > Race teams use nitrogen because:
> > >
> > > 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit

area,needs
> > no
> > > external power source like a compressor.
> > > 2.It's dry,contains no water.
> > > 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion)
> > > 4.cost is less than other gases??

> >
> > The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from

the
> > same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason

> #1,
> > you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen,
> > that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except

for
> > the Ferrari team.
> >
> >

>
>




Scott MacLean 11-27-2003 12:42 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Actually, we won the CASC GTA championship this year, so we must be doing
something right. :)

http://www.casc.on.ca/RACE-PS.asp

"Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au> wrote in message
news:3fc59a71$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> maybe thats why they r the best, u should put nitrogen then u will be the
> best
> ;)
>
> Sandro
>
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> news:Yh4xb.14442$dt2.1029459@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > > Race teams use nitrogen because:
> > >
> > > 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit

area,needs
> > no
> > > external power source like a compressor.
> > > 2.It's dry,contains no water.
> > > 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion)
> > > 4.cost is less than other gases??

> >
> > The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from

the
> > same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason

> #1,
> > you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen,
> > that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except

for
> > the Ferrari team.
> >
> >

>
>




Scott MacLean 11-27-2003 12:42 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Actually, we won the CASC GTA championship this year, so we must be doing
something right. :)

http://www.casc.on.ca/RACE-PS.asp

"Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au> wrote in message
news:3fc59a71$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> maybe thats why they r the best, u should put nitrogen then u will be the
> best
> ;)
>
> Sandro
>
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> news:Yh4xb.14442$dt2.1029459@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > > Race teams use nitrogen because:
> > >
> > > 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit

area,needs
> > no
> > > external power source like a compressor.
> > > 2.It's dry,contains no water.
> > > 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion)
> > > 4.cost is less than other gases??

> >
> > The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from

the
> > same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason

> #1,
> > you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen,
> > that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except

for
> > the Ferrari team.
> >
> >

>
>




Peter O 11-28-2003 12:04 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Yes Yes & Yes
But the cost & effort seem hardly worth the effort.

Pete

"Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it> wrote in message
news:3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its

actually
> better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it?
>
> thnx
>
>




Peter O 11-28-2003 12:04 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Yes Yes & Yes
But the cost & effort seem hardly worth the effort.

Pete

"Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it> wrote in message
news:3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its

actually
> better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it?
>
> thnx
>
>




Peter O 11-28-2003 12:04 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Yes Yes & Yes
But the cost & effort seem hardly worth the effort.

Pete

"Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it> wrote in message
news:3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its

actually
> better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it?
>
> thnx
>
>




Peter O 11-28-2003 12:04 AM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
Yes Yes & Yes
But the cost & effort seem hardly worth the effort.

Pete

"Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it> wrote in message
news:3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its

actually
> better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it?
>
> thnx
>
>




Peter L 12-04-2003 09:42 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
In fact it is true that nitrogen is better than air. However, this is
generally used for fleet operations. The benefits for a passenger car would
be minimal. Nitrogen is a "larger" molecule than the oxygen in the air. As
a result, the tires will hold their pressure over a longer period of time
resulting in less maintenance time to check the tire pressures. This leads
to better mileage and better tire tread life with less maintenance effort.
The maintenance effort can become very important if you're managing a fleet
of vehicles. For a passenger car, just check your pressure regularly and
you'll get the same benefits.

"Carl S. Moore" <carl.moore2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:8%4wb.215052$9E1.1148352@attbi_s52...
> Helium might work even better to make the car lighter.....
>
>
> "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it> wrote in message

news:3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> > hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its

actually
> > better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it?
> >
> > thnx
> >
> >

>
>




Peter L 12-04-2003 09:42 PM

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 
In fact it is true that nitrogen is better than air. However, this is
generally used for fleet operations. The benefits for a passenger car would
be minimal. Nitrogen is a "larger" molecule than the oxygen in the air. As
a result, the tires will hold their pressure over a longer period of time
resulting in less maintenance time to check the tire pressures. This leads
to better mileage and better tire tread life with less maintenance effort.
The maintenance effort can become very important if you're managing a fleet
of vehicles. For a passenger car, just check your pressure regularly and
you'll get the same benefits.

"Carl S. Moore" <carl.moore2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:8%4wb.215052$9E1.1148352@attbi_s52...
> Helium might work even better to make the car lighter.....
>
>
> "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it> wrote in message

news:3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> > hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its

actually
> > better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it?
> >
> > thnx
> >
> >

>
>





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