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No narrow wheels for Civic Si. Why?
I was looking at what is available wheelwise for 06/07 Civic Si for the
snowshoeing purposes and the smallest wheels I could find are 17x7. Why are there no 17x3.5 or 17x4 wheels? Noone wants very narrow winter tires on a two wheel drive car??? Is that because wheel makers assume that most customers are morons and go for wider-is-better regardless of whether it snows or not? Or the customers who want narrow wheel/tire winter package don't buy civics? I haven't checked for other compacts but I doubt it's any better for impreza, etc. |
Re: No narrow wheels for Civic Si. Why?
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:16:22 -0700, Body Roll wrote:
> I was looking at what is available wheelwise for 06/07 Civic Si for the > snowshoeing purposes > and the smallest wheels I could find are 17x7. > Why are there no 17x3.5 or 17x4 wheels? Noone wants very narrow winter > tires on a two wheel > drive car??? > Is that because wheel makers assume that most customers are morons and > go for > wider-is-better regardless of whether it snows or not? > Or the customers who want narrow wheel/tire winter package don't buy > civics? > I haven't checked for other compacts but I doubt it's any better for > impreza, etc. I am wondering what sized 15" steel rims and tires would work on the 06 Si. I think it would provide a better winter ride (in Buffalo) and be much cheaper to get good snow tires. Then, come spring, switch back to the 17 inch alloys... So, anyone here able to give the info. As the OP said, tirerack.com only shows 17 and 18 inchers for this car, but I can't believe that it isn't possible to downgrade for this purpose... Joe |
Re: No narrow wheels for Civic Si. Why?
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:16:22 -0700, Body Roll wrote:
> I was looking at what is available wheelwise for 06/07 Civic Si for the > snowshoeing purposes > and the smallest wheels I could find are 17x7. > Why are there no 17x3.5 or 17x4 wheels? Noone wants very narrow winter > tires on a two wheel > drive car??? > Is that because wheel makers assume that most customers are morons and > go for > wider-is-better regardless of whether it snows or not? > Or the customers who want narrow wheel/tire winter package don't buy > civics? > I haven't checked for other compacts but I doubt it's any better for > impreza, etc. I am wondering what sized 15" steel rims and tires would work on the 06 Si. I think it would provide a better winter ride (in Buffalo) and be much cheaper to get good snow tires. Then, come spring, switch back to the 17 inch alloys... So, anyone here able to give the info. As the OP said, tirerack.com only shows 17 and 18 inchers for this car, but I can't believe that it isn't possible to downgrade for this purpose... Joe |
Re: No narrow wheels for Civic Si. Why?
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:16:22 -0700, Body Roll wrote:
> I was looking at what is available wheelwise for 06/07 Civic Si for the > snowshoeing purposes > and the smallest wheels I could find are 17x7. > Why are there no 17x3.5 or 17x4 wheels? Noone wants very narrow winter > tires on a two wheel > drive car??? > Is that because wheel makers assume that most customers are morons and > go for > wider-is-better regardless of whether it snows or not? > Or the customers who want narrow wheel/tire winter package don't buy > civics? > I haven't checked for other compacts but I doubt it's any better for > impreza, etc. I am wondering what sized 15" steel rims and tires would work on the 06 Si. I think it would provide a better winter ride (in Buffalo) and be much cheaper to get good snow tires. Then, come spring, switch back to the 17 inch alloys... So, anyone here able to give the info. As the OP said, tirerack.com only shows 17 and 18 inchers for this car, but I can't believe that it isn't possible to downgrade for this purpose... Joe |
Re: No narrow wheels for Civic Si. Why?
Joseph M LaVigne <joethesmoker@gmail.com> wrote in
news:pan.2006.09.14.05.31.38.890764@gmail.com: > On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:16:22 -0700, Body Roll wrote: > >> I was looking at what is available wheelwise for 06/07 Civic Si for >> the snowshoeing purposes >> and the smallest wheels I could find are 17x7. >> Why are there no 17x3.5 or 17x4 wheels? Noone wants very narrow >> winter tires on a two wheel >> drive car??? >> Is that because wheel makers assume that most customers are morons >> and go for >> wider-is-better regardless of whether it snows or not? >> Or the customers who want narrow wheel/tire winter package don't buy >> civics? >> I haven't checked for other compacts but I doubt it's any better for >> impreza, etc. > > I am wondering what sized 15" steel rims and tires would work on the > 06 Si. Probably the same as on other Civics of that model year. > > I think it would provide a better winter ride (in Buffalo) and be much > cheaper to get good snow tires. Then, come spring, switch back to the > 17 inch alloys... > > So, anyone here able to give the info. As the OP said, tirerack.com > only shows 17 and 18 inchers for this car, but I can't believe that it > isn't possible to downgrade for this purpose... > > Joe > Jack up a wheel on your car and measure the *tire* circumference at the center of the tread. Then compare to Tire Rack's charts,or send them an email. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: No narrow wheels for Civic Si. Why?
Joseph M LaVigne <joethesmoker@gmail.com> wrote in
news:pan.2006.09.14.05.31.38.890764@gmail.com: > On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:16:22 -0700, Body Roll wrote: > >> I was looking at what is available wheelwise for 06/07 Civic Si for >> the snowshoeing purposes >> and the smallest wheels I could find are 17x7. >> Why are there no 17x3.5 or 17x4 wheels? Noone wants very narrow >> winter tires on a two wheel >> drive car??? >> Is that because wheel makers assume that most customers are morons >> and go for >> wider-is-better regardless of whether it snows or not? >> Or the customers who want narrow wheel/tire winter package don't buy >> civics? >> I haven't checked for other compacts but I doubt it's any better for >> impreza, etc. > > I am wondering what sized 15" steel rims and tires would work on the > 06 Si. Probably the same as on other Civics of that model year. > > I think it would provide a better winter ride (in Buffalo) and be much > cheaper to get good snow tires. Then, come spring, switch back to the > 17 inch alloys... > > So, anyone here able to give the info. As the OP said, tirerack.com > only shows 17 and 18 inchers for this car, but I can't believe that it > isn't possible to downgrade for this purpose... > > Joe > Jack up a wheel on your car and measure the *tire* circumference at the center of the tread. Then compare to Tire Rack's charts,or send them an email. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: No narrow wheels for Civic Si. Why?
Joseph M LaVigne <joethesmoker@gmail.com> wrote in
news:pan.2006.09.14.05.31.38.890764@gmail.com: > On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:16:22 -0700, Body Roll wrote: > >> I was looking at what is available wheelwise for 06/07 Civic Si for >> the snowshoeing purposes >> and the smallest wheels I could find are 17x7. >> Why are there no 17x3.5 or 17x4 wheels? Noone wants very narrow >> winter tires on a two wheel >> drive car??? >> Is that because wheel makers assume that most customers are morons >> and go for >> wider-is-better regardless of whether it snows or not? >> Or the customers who want narrow wheel/tire winter package don't buy >> civics? >> I haven't checked for other compacts but I doubt it's any better for >> impreza, etc. > > I am wondering what sized 15" steel rims and tires would work on the > 06 Si. Probably the same as on other Civics of that model year. > > I think it would provide a better winter ride (in Buffalo) and be much > cheaper to get good snow tires. Then, come spring, switch back to the > 17 inch alloys... > > So, anyone here able to give the info. As the OP said, tirerack.com > only shows 17 and 18 inchers for this car, but I can't believe that it > isn't possible to downgrade for this purpose... > > Joe > Jack up a wheel on your car and measure the *tire* circumference at the center of the tread. Then compare to Tire Rack's charts,or send them an email. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: No narrow wheels for Civic Si. Why?
Would a 15" steel rim clear the calipers? According to TireRack, 16" is the
minimum: that can be used http://tinyurl.com/jafn4 "Joseph M LaVigne" <joethesmoker@gmail.com> wrote in message pan.2006.09.14.05.31.38.890764@gmail.com... > On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:16:22 -0700, Body Roll wrote: > >> I was looking at what is available wheelwise for 06/07 Civic Si for the >> snowshoeing purposes >> and the smallest wheels I could find are 17x7. >> Why are there no 17x3.5 or 17x4 wheels? Noone wants very narrow winter >> tires on a two wheel >> drive car??? >> Is that because wheel makers assume that most customers are morons and >> go for >> wider-is-better regardless of whether it snows or not? >> Or the customers who want narrow wheel/tire winter package don't buy >> civics? >> I haven't checked for other compacts but I doubt it's any better for >> impreza, etc. > > I am wondering what sized 15" steel rims and tires would work on the 06 > Si. > > I think it would provide a better winter ride (in Buffalo) and be much > cheaper to get good snow tires. Then, come spring, switch back to the 17 > inch alloys... > > So, anyone here able to give the info. As the OP said, tirerack.com only > shows 17 and 18 inchers for this car, but I can't believe that it isn't > possible to downgrade for this purpose... > > Joe |
Re: No narrow wheels for Civic Si. Why?
Would a 15" steel rim clear the calipers? According to TireRack, 16" is the
minimum: that can be used http://tinyurl.com/jafn4 "Joseph M LaVigne" <joethesmoker@gmail.com> wrote in message pan.2006.09.14.05.31.38.890764@gmail.com... > On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:16:22 -0700, Body Roll wrote: > >> I was looking at what is available wheelwise for 06/07 Civic Si for the >> snowshoeing purposes >> and the smallest wheels I could find are 17x7. >> Why are there no 17x3.5 or 17x4 wheels? Noone wants very narrow winter >> tires on a two wheel >> drive car??? >> Is that because wheel makers assume that most customers are morons and >> go for >> wider-is-better regardless of whether it snows or not? >> Or the customers who want narrow wheel/tire winter package don't buy >> civics? >> I haven't checked for other compacts but I doubt it's any better for >> impreza, etc. > > I am wondering what sized 15" steel rims and tires would work on the 06 > Si. > > I think it would provide a better winter ride (in Buffalo) and be much > cheaper to get good snow tires. Then, come spring, switch back to the 17 > inch alloys... > > So, anyone here able to give the info. As the OP said, tirerack.com only > shows 17 and 18 inchers for this car, but I can't believe that it isn't > possible to downgrade for this purpose... > > Joe |
Re: No narrow wheels for Civic Si. Why?
Would a 15" steel rim clear the calipers? According to TireRack, 16" is the
minimum: that can be used http://tinyurl.com/jafn4 "Joseph M LaVigne" <joethesmoker@gmail.com> wrote in message pan.2006.09.14.05.31.38.890764@gmail.com... > On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:16:22 -0700, Body Roll wrote: > >> I was looking at what is available wheelwise for 06/07 Civic Si for the >> snowshoeing purposes >> and the smallest wheels I could find are 17x7. >> Why are there no 17x3.5 or 17x4 wheels? Noone wants very narrow winter >> tires on a two wheel >> drive car??? >> Is that because wheel makers assume that most customers are morons and >> go for >> wider-is-better regardless of whether it snows or not? >> Or the customers who want narrow wheel/tire winter package don't buy >> civics? >> I haven't checked for other compacts but I doubt it's any better for >> impreza, etc. > > I am wondering what sized 15" steel rims and tires would work on the 06 > Si. > > I think it would provide a better winter ride (in Buffalo) and be much > cheaper to get good snow tires. Then, come spring, switch back to the 17 > inch alloys... > > So, anyone here able to give the info. As the OP said, tirerack.com only > shows 17 and 18 inchers for this car, but I can't believe that it isn't > possible to downgrade for this purpose... > > Joe |
Re: No narrow wheels for Civic Si. Why?
Ghislain wrote: > Would a 15" steel rim clear the calipers? According to TireRack, 16" is the > minimum: that can be used http://tinyurl.com/jafn4 205 55 16 is not bad. But I wonder why something like 145 70 17 is not available for winter. Maybe because this will look and feel terrible on dry/wet roads? Then 145 45 18 wouls work just fine I think. Are narrow wheels and tires for winter too overrated or there is any merit to that? I don't see anything narrower than 145 on tirerack. Could not think of any reason why this is not available aside from the possibility that the sport car customers are retarted. But I'm not sure if I can jump to that conclusion just yet. Thoughts? |
Re: No narrow wheels for Civic Si. Why?
Ghislain wrote: > Would a 15" steel rim clear the calipers? According to TireRack, 16" is the > minimum: that can be used http://tinyurl.com/jafn4 205 55 16 is not bad. But I wonder why something like 145 70 17 is not available for winter. Maybe because this will look and feel terrible on dry/wet roads? Then 145 45 18 wouls work just fine I think. Are narrow wheels and tires for winter too overrated or there is any merit to that? I don't see anything narrower than 145 on tirerack. Could not think of any reason why this is not available aside from the possibility that the sport car customers are retarted. But I'm not sure if I can jump to that conclusion just yet. Thoughts? |
Re: No narrow wheels for Civic Si. Why?
Ghislain wrote: > Would a 15" steel rim clear the calipers? According to TireRack, 16" is the > minimum: that can be used http://tinyurl.com/jafn4 205 55 16 is not bad. But I wonder why something like 145 70 17 is not available for winter. Maybe because this will look and feel terrible on dry/wet roads? Then 145 45 18 wouls work just fine I think. Are narrow wheels and tires for winter too overrated or there is any merit to that? I don't see anything narrower than 145 on tirerack. Could not think of any reason why this is not available aside from the possibility that the sport car customers are retarted. But I'm not sure if I can jump to that conclusion just yet. Thoughts? |
Re: No narrow wheels for Civic Si. Why?
Body Roll wrote:
> Are narrow wheels and tires for winter too overrated or there is > any merit to that? As someone who grew up in a very snowy area, I'd say yes, the idea is over-rated. I always ran 185/70R13s on my Mazda GLC and it ate up the snow. My '87 Accords have also all run the same size, with no problems in snow. Tire width isn't nearly as big a consideration as proper tread pattern. A 205 snowtire is far preferable to a 145 summer tire, or probably even most 145 all-seasons. |
Re: No narrow wheels for Civic Si. Why?
Body Roll wrote:
> Are narrow wheels and tires for winter too overrated or there is > any merit to that? As someone who grew up in a very snowy area, I'd say yes, the idea is over-rated. I always ran 185/70R13s on my Mazda GLC and it ate up the snow. My '87 Accords have also all run the same size, with no problems in snow. Tire width isn't nearly as big a consideration as proper tread pattern. A 205 snowtire is far preferable to a 145 summer tire, or probably even most 145 all-seasons. |
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