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amsjsj 02-18-2004 06:55 PM

is this normal?
 
I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the car
and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is at.
Why is this? Or is it normal?



Sean D 02-18-2004 07:12 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent you
from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal though,
I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the sound or
did it just sounds making it?

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the car
> and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is at.
> Why is this? Or is it normal?
>
>




Sean D 02-18-2004 07:12 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent you
from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal though,
I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the sound or
did it just sounds making it?

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the car
> and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is at.
> Why is this? Or is it normal?
>
>




Sean D 02-18-2004 07:12 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent you
from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal though,
I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the sound or
did it just sounds making it?

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the car
> and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is at.
> Why is this? Or is it normal?
>
>




amsjsj 02-18-2004 07:31 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
no i had it for awhile i also put a different gear shifter on it. But i
noticed it for awhile but wasnt sure if its normal. Like i said i tap the
brake pedal and sounds like somewthings hitting that stick but you sound
right.
"Sean D" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:bcTYb.99826$IF6.2899932@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent you
> from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
> heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal though,
> I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the sound

or
> did it just sounds making it?
>
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> > I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the

car
> > and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is

at.
> > Why is this? Or is it normal?
> >
> >

>
>




amsjsj 02-18-2004 07:31 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
no i had it for awhile i also put a different gear shifter on it. But i
noticed it for awhile but wasnt sure if its normal. Like i said i tap the
brake pedal and sounds like somewthings hitting that stick but you sound
right.
"Sean D" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:bcTYb.99826$IF6.2899932@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent you
> from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
> heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal though,
> I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the sound

or
> did it just sounds making it?
>
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> > I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the

car
> > and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is

at.
> > Why is this? Or is it normal?
> >
> >

>
>




amsjsj 02-18-2004 07:31 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
no i had it for awhile i also put a different gear shifter on it. But i
noticed it for awhile but wasnt sure if its normal. Like i said i tap the
brake pedal and sounds like somewthings hitting that stick but you sound
right.
"Sean D" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:bcTYb.99826$IF6.2899932@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent you
> from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
> heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal though,
> I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the sound

or
> did it just sounds making it?
>
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> > I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the

car
> > and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is

at.
> > Why is this? Or is it normal?
> >
> >

>
>




David Reid 02-18-2004 08:29 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
A lot of cars do that. As stated, it's the shift release. Don't worry
about it.
"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:UtTYb.4555$iB.775@lakeread06...
> no i had it for awhile i also put a different gear shifter on it. But i
> noticed it for awhile but wasnt sure if its normal. Like i said i tap the
> brake pedal and sounds like somewthings hitting that stick but you sound
> right.
> "Sean D" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> news:bcTYb.99826$IF6.2899932@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent

you
> > from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
> > heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal

though,
> > I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the

sound
> or
> > did it just sounds making it?
> >
> > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> > > I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the

> car
> > > and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is

> at.
> > > Why is this? Or is it normal?
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




David Reid 02-18-2004 08:29 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
A lot of cars do that. As stated, it's the shift release. Don't worry
about it.
"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:UtTYb.4555$iB.775@lakeread06...
> no i had it for awhile i also put a different gear shifter on it. But i
> noticed it for awhile but wasnt sure if its normal. Like i said i tap the
> brake pedal and sounds like somewthings hitting that stick but you sound
> right.
> "Sean D" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> news:bcTYb.99826$IF6.2899932@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent

you
> > from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
> > heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal

though,
> > I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the

sound
> or
> > did it just sounds making it?
> >
> > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> > > I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the

> car
> > > and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is

> at.
> > > Why is this? Or is it normal?
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




David Reid 02-18-2004 08:29 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
A lot of cars do that. As stated, it's the shift release. Don't worry
about it.
"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:UtTYb.4555$iB.775@lakeread06...
> no i had it for awhile i also put a different gear shifter on it. But i
> noticed it for awhile but wasnt sure if its normal. Like i said i tap the
> brake pedal and sounds like somewthings hitting that stick but you sound
> right.
> "Sean D" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> news:bcTYb.99826$IF6.2899932@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent

you
> > from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
> > heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal

though,
> > I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the

sound
> or
> > did it just sounds making it?
> >
> > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> > > I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the

> car
> > > and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is

> at.
> > > Why is this? Or is it normal?
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Randolph 02-18-2004 09:16 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.

electricked wrote:
>
> Yeah, it's normal. I have the same sound on my 98 accord. It's a relay that
> switches on and off depending if you're holding the pedal up or down and
> works in the way the previous poster described. You can even open it up and
> see exactly where the relay is (relay is an elecromagnetic switch). Kind of
> like a transistor but it uses different principles to switch on/off.
>
> --Viktor
>
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:UtTYb.4555$iB.775@lakeread06...
> > no i had it for awhile i also put a different gear shifter on it. But i
> > noticed it for awhile but wasnt sure if its normal. Like i said i tap the
> > brake pedal and sounds like somewthings hitting that stick but you sound
> > right.
> > "Sean D" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> > news:bcTYb.99826$IF6.2899932@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > > You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent

> you
> > > from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
> > > heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal

> though,
> > > I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the

> sound
> > or
> > > did it just sounds making it?
> > >
> > > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> > > > I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the

> > car
> > > > and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is

> > at.
> > > > Why is this? Or is it normal?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >


Randolph 02-18-2004 09:16 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.

electricked wrote:
>
> Yeah, it's normal. I have the same sound on my 98 accord. It's a relay that
> switches on and off depending if you're holding the pedal up or down and
> works in the way the previous poster described. You can even open it up and
> see exactly where the relay is (relay is an elecromagnetic switch). Kind of
> like a transistor but it uses different principles to switch on/off.
>
> --Viktor
>
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:UtTYb.4555$iB.775@lakeread06...
> > no i had it for awhile i also put a different gear shifter on it. But i
> > noticed it for awhile but wasnt sure if its normal. Like i said i tap the
> > brake pedal and sounds like somewthings hitting that stick but you sound
> > right.
> > "Sean D" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> > news:bcTYb.99826$IF6.2899932@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > > You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent

> you
> > > from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
> > > heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal

> though,
> > > I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the

> sound
> > or
> > > did it just sounds making it?
> > >
> > > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> > > > I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the

> > car
> > > > and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is

> > at.
> > > > Why is this? Or is it normal?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >


Randolph 02-18-2004 09:16 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.

electricked wrote:
>
> Yeah, it's normal. I have the same sound on my 98 accord. It's a relay that
> switches on and off depending if you're holding the pedal up or down and
> works in the way the previous poster described. You can even open it up and
> see exactly where the relay is (relay is an elecromagnetic switch). Kind of
> like a transistor but it uses different principles to switch on/off.
>
> --Viktor
>
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:UtTYb.4555$iB.775@lakeread06...
> > no i had it for awhile i also put a different gear shifter on it. But i
> > noticed it for awhile but wasnt sure if its normal. Like i said i tap the
> > brake pedal and sounds like somewthings hitting that stick but you sound
> > right.
> > "Sean D" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> > news:bcTYb.99826$IF6.2899932@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > > You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent

> you
> > > from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
> > > heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal

> though,
> > > I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the

> sound
> > or
> > > did it just sounds making it?
> > >
> > > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> > > > I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the

> > car
> > > > and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is

> > at.
> > > > Why is this? Or is it normal?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >


amsjsj 02-18-2004 09:50 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
thanks guys for the help.

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the car
> and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is at.
> Why is this? Or is it normal?
>
>




amsjsj 02-18-2004 09:50 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
thanks guys for the help.

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the car
> and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is at.
> Why is this? Or is it normal?
>
>




amsjsj 02-18-2004 09:50 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
thanks guys for the help.

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the car
> and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is at.
> Why is this? Or is it normal?
>
>




electricked 02-18-2004 10:28 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
Yeah, it's normal. I have the same sound on my 98 accord. It's a relay that
switches on and off depending if you're holding the pedal up or down and
works in the way the previous poster described. You can even open it up and
see exactly where the relay is (relay is an elecromagnetic switch). Kind of
like a transistor but it uses different principles to switch on/off.

--Viktor

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:UtTYb.4555$iB.775@lakeread06...
> no i had it for awhile i also put a different gear shifter on it. But i
> noticed it for awhile but wasnt sure if its normal. Like i said i tap the
> brake pedal and sounds like somewthings hitting that stick but you sound
> right.
> "Sean D" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> news:bcTYb.99826$IF6.2899932@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent

you
> > from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
> > heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal

though,
> > I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the

sound
> or
> > did it just sounds making it?
> >
> > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> > > I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the

> car
> > > and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is

> at.
> > > Why is this? Or is it normal?
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




electricked 02-18-2004 10:28 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
Yeah, it's normal. I have the same sound on my 98 accord. It's a relay that
switches on and off depending if you're holding the pedal up or down and
works in the way the previous poster described. You can even open it up and
see exactly where the relay is (relay is an elecromagnetic switch). Kind of
like a transistor but it uses different principles to switch on/off.

--Viktor

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:UtTYb.4555$iB.775@lakeread06...
> no i had it for awhile i also put a different gear shifter on it. But i
> noticed it for awhile but wasnt sure if its normal. Like i said i tap the
> brake pedal and sounds like somewthings hitting that stick but you sound
> right.
> "Sean D" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> news:bcTYb.99826$IF6.2899932@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent

you
> > from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
> > heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal

though,
> > I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the

sound
> or
> > did it just sounds making it?
> >
> > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> > > I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the

> car
> > > and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is

> at.
> > > Why is this? Or is it normal?
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




electricked 02-18-2004 10:28 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
Yeah, it's normal. I have the same sound on my 98 accord. It's a relay that
switches on and off depending if you're holding the pedal up or down and
works in the way the previous poster described. You can even open it up and
see exactly where the relay is (relay is an elecromagnetic switch). Kind of
like a transistor but it uses different principles to switch on/off.

--Viktor

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:UtTYb.4555$iB.775@lakeread06...
> no i had it for awhile i also put a different gear shifter on it. But i
> noticed it for awhile but wasnt sure if its normal. Like i said i tap the
> brake pedal and sounds like somewthings hitting that stick but you sound
> right.
> "Sean D" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> news:bcTYb.99826$IF6.2899932@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent

you
> > from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
> > heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal

though,
> > I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the

sound
> or
> > did it just sounds making it?
> >
> > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> > > I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the

> car
> > > and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is

> at.
> > > Why is this? Or is it normal?
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




electricked 02-19-2004 01:19 AM

Re: is this normal?
 
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.


Same thing.

--Viktor



electricked 02-19-2004 01:19 AM

Re: is this normal?
 
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.


Same thing.

--Viktor



electricked 02-19-2004 01:19 AM

Re: is this normal?
 
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.


Same thing.

--Viktor



Dave Dodson 02-19-2004 05:09 AM

Re: is this normal?
 


"electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
news:JYOdna4qt87WpKndRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> > It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.

>
> Same thing.
>
> --Viktor

No, Viktor, they are not the same thing. A switch can be either mechanical
(relay) or purely electrical (as some transistors are) but a solenoid (by
definition) must incorporate both an electrical and a mechanical component
(such as the actuating mechanism on an auto starter). I agree that both
perform the same basic function and that the difference is really rather
picayune but there is a difference.

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
>
>




Dave Dodson 02-19-2004 05:09 AM

Re: is this normal?
 


"electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
news:JYOdna4qt87WpKndRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> > It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.

>
> Same thing.
>
> --Viktor

No, Viktor, they are not the same thing. A switch can be either mechanical
(relay) or purely electrical (as some transistors are) but a solenoid (by
definition) must incorporate both an electrical and a mechanical component
(such as the actuating mechanism on an auto starter). I agree that both
perform the same basic function and that the difference is really rather
picayune but there is a difference.

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
>
>




Dave Dodson 02-19-2004 05:09 AM

Re: is this normal?
 


"electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
news:JYOdna4qt87WpKndRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> > It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.

>
> Same thing.
>
> --Viktor

No, Viktor, they are not the same thing. A switch can be either mechanical
(relay) or purely electrical (as some transistors are) but a solenoid (by
definition) must incorporate both an electrical and a mechanical component
(such as the actuating mechanism on an auto starter). I agree that both
perform the same basic function and that the difference is really rather
picayune but there is a difference.

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
>
>




electricked 02-19-2004 06:12 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
Yes, Dave. I agree. I meant it in terms of practical use they are the same.
They both do the same thing. Of course their mechanisms are a little
different but that's not important for this discussion. The reason I
mentioned relay is because most people know more about relays than they do
about solenoids.

--Viktor

"Dave Dodson" <ddodson@gci.net> wrote in message
news:10392qg5nu4dj32@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> "electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
> news:JYOdna4qt87WpKndRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> > > It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.

> >
> > Same thing.
> >
> > --Viktor

> No, Viktor, they are not the same thing. A switch can be either mechanical
> (relay) or purely electrical (as some transistors are) but a solenoid (by
> definition) must incorporate both an electrical and a mechanical component
> (such as the actuating mechanism on an auto starter). I agree that both
> perform the same basic function and that the difference is really rather
> picayune but there is a difference.
>
> Dave D
> --
> Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
> >
> >

>
>




electricked 02-19-2004 06:12 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
Yes, Dave. I agree. I meant it in terms of practical use they are the same.
They both do the same thing. Of course their mechanisms are a little
different but that's not important for this discussion. The reason I
mentioned relay is because most people know more about relays than they do
about solenoids.

--Viktor

"Dave Dodson" <ddodson@gci.net> wrote in message
news:10392qg5nu4dj32@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> "electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
> news:JYOdna4qt87WpKndRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> > > It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.

> >
> > Same thing.
> >
> > --Viktor

> No, Viktor, they are not the same thing. A switch can be either mechanical
> (relay) or purely electrical (as some transistors are) but a solenoid (by
> definition) must incorporate both an electrical and a mechanical component
> (such as the actuating mechanism on an auto starter). I agree that both
> perform the same basic function and that the difference is really rather
> picayune but there is a difference.
>
> Dave D
> --
> Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
> >
> >

>
>




electricked 02-19-2004 06:12 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
Yes, Dave. I agree. I meant it in terms of practical use they are the same.
They both do the same thing. Of course their mechanisms are a little
different but that's not important for this discussion. The reason I
mentioned relay is because most people know more about relays than they do
about solenoids.

--Viktor

"Dave Dodson" <ddodson@gci.net> wrote in message
news:10392qg5nu4dj32@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> "electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
> news:JYOdna4qt87WpKndRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> > > It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.

> >
> > Same thing.
> >
> > --Viktor

> No, Viktor, they are not the same thing. A switch can be either mechanical
> (relay) or purely electrical (as some transistors are) but a solenoid (by
> definition) must incorporate both an electrical and a mechanical component
> (such as the actuating mechanism on an auto starter). I agree that both
> perform the same basic function and that the difference is really rather
> picayune but there is a difference.
>
> Dave D
> --
> Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
> >
> >

>
>




Dave Dodson 02-20-2004 02:52 AM

Re: is this normal?
 


"electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
news:bNednb1wDu4Du6jdRVn-vg@comcast.com...
> Yes, Dave. I agree. I meant it in terms of practical use they are the

same.
> They both do the same thing. Of course their mechanisms are a little
> different but that's not important for this discussion. The reason I
> mentioned relay is because most people know more about relays than they do
> about solenoids.
>
> --Viktor

From your other posts, Viktor, I was fairly certain that was what you meant
but I thought I would get a kinder, gentler disagreement put in before
certain others here attacked with vigor! (Hehe, if you get my meaning). I am
sure that more are familiar with relays than solenoids (or at least they
think they are) because they use the term relay and solenoid interchangable
rather than correctly but you are correct in the fact that the technical
correct term should take second place to the function as that is what is
important. Keep up the good work.

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!



Dave Dodson 02-20-2004 02:52 AM

Re: is this normal?
 


"electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
news:bNednb1wDu4Du6jdRVn-vg@comcast.com...
> Yes, Dave. I agree. I meant it in terms of practical use they are the

same.
> They both do the same thing. Of course their mechanisms are a little
> different but that's not important for this discussion. The reason I
> mentioned relay is because most people know more about relays than they do
> about solenoids.
>
> --Viktor

From your other posts, Viktor, I was fairly certain that was what you meant
but I thought I would get a kinder, gentler disagreement put in before
certain others here attacked with vigor! (Hehe, if you get my meaning). I am
sure that more are familiar with relays than solenoids (or at least they
think they are) because they use the term relay and solenoid interchangable
rather than correctly but you are correct in the fact that the technical
correct term should take second place to the function as that is what is
important. Keep up the good work.

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!



Dave Dodson 02-20-2004 02:52 AM

Re: is this normal?
 


"electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
news:bNednb1wDu4Du6jdRVn-vg@comcast.com...
> Yes, Dave. I agree. I meant it in terms of practical use they are the

same.
> They both do the same thing. Of course their mechanisms are a little
> different but that's not important for this discussion. The reason I
> mentioned relay is because most people know more about relays than they do
> about solenoids.
>
> --Viktor

From your other posts, Viktor, I was fairly certain that was what you meant
but I thought I would get a kinder, gentler disagreement put in before
certain others here attacked with vigor! (Hehe, if you get my meaning). I am
sure that more are familiar with relays than solenoids (or at least they
think they are) because they use the term relay and solenoid interchangable
rather than correctly but you are correct in the fact that the technical
correct term should take second place to the function as that is what is
important. Keep up the good work.

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!



electricked 02-21-2004 03:40 AM

Re: is this normal?
 

"Dave Dodson" <ddodson@gci.net> wrote in message
news:103bf7nd0i68l48@corp.supernews.com...
> From your other posts, Viktor, I was fairly certain that was what you

meant
> but I thought I would get a kinder, gentler disagreement put in before
> certain others here attacked with vigor! (Hehe, if you get my meaning).


I've been around, I know the risks, trust me ;)

> I am
> sure that more are familiar with relays than solenoids (or at least they
> think they are) because they use the term relay and solenoid

interchangable

I agree. In order for people to relate, you have to mention the more used
term and I'd think more people know/think they know what a relay is compared
to a solenoid. I'm sure you understand.

> rather than correctly but you are correct in the fact that the technical
> correct term should take second place to the function as that is what is
> important.


Right. Technical advice is good for people who want to learn or might have
tech background. If someone wants to get a quick-fix I don't give them all
the tech-talk unless they specifically ask for it. I agree with you though.
This newsgroup is about learning and tech-talk is preferable. Glad you
pointed that out. Keep the information flowing. That's why we're here
afterall!

--Viktor



electricked 02-21-2004 03:40 AM

Re: is this normal?
 

"Dave Dodson" <ddodson@gci.net> wrote in message
news:103bf7nd0i68l48@corp.supernews.com...
> From your other posts, Viktor, I was fairly certain that was what you

meant
> but I thought I would get a kinder, gentler disagreement put in before
> certain others here attacked with vigor! (Hehe, if you get my meaning).


I've been around, I know the risks, trust me ;)

> I am
> sure that more are familiar with relays than solenoids (or at least they
> think they are) because they use the term relay and solenoid

interchangable

I agree. In order for people to relate, you have to mention the more used
term and I'd think more people know/think they know what a relay is compared
to a solenoid. I'm sure you understand.

> rather than correctly but you are correct in the fact that the technical
> correct term should take second place to the function as that is what is
> important.


Right. Technical advice is good for people who want to learn or might have
tech background. If someone wants to get a quick-fix I don't give them all
the tech-talk unless they specifically ask for it. I agree with you though.
This newsgroup is about learning and tech-talk is preferable. Glad you
pointed that out. Keep the information flowing. That's why we're here
afterall!

--Viktor



electricked 02-21-2004 03:40 AM

Re: is this normal?
 

"Dave Dodson" <ddodson@gci.net> wrote in message
news:103bf7nd0i68l48@corp.supernews.com...
> From your other posts, Viktor, I was fairly certain that was what you

meant
> but I thought I would get a kinder, gentler disagreement put in before
> certain others here attacked with vigor! (Hehe, if you get my meaning).


I've been around, I know the risks, trust me ;)

> I am
> sure that more are familiar with relays than solenoids (or at least they
> think they are) because they use the term relay and solenoid

interchangable

I agree. In order for people to relate, you have to mention the more used
term and I'd think more people know/think they know what a relay is compared
to a solenoid. I'm sure you understand.

> rather than correctly but you are correct in the fact that the technical
> correct term should take second place to the function as that is what is
> important.


Right. Technical advice is good for people who want to learn or might have
tech background. If someone wants to get a quick-fix I don't give them all
the tech-talk unless they specifically ask for it. I agree with you though.
This newsgroup is about learning and tech-talk is preferable. Glad you
pointed that out. Keep the information flowing. That's why we're here
afterall!

--Viktor




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