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Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
Hello,
I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like once a week. Thanks, Chet |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
"Chet Shannon" <funguy99504@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f4b0ac40.0410060908.3b218dc6@posting.google.c om... > Hello, > I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake > pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly > here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the > brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months > later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away > in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I > don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like > once a week. Time elapsed is meaningless. Miles is what counts. How many miles between the pads being replaced and the shop saying they are down to 80%? By don't drive heavy on the brakes, do you also mean you don't "ride the brakes"? Maybe the calipers aren't adjusted properly. Was it down to 80% on both inner and outer pads? Or just 1 or the other? If inner and outer are wearing differently it's possible your caliper slides are sticking. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
"Chet Shannon" <funguy99504@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f4b0ac40.0410060908.3b218dc6@posting.google.c om... > Hello, > I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake > pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly > here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the > brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months > later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away > in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I > don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like > once a week. Time elapsed is meaningless. Miles is what counts. How many miles between the pads being replaced and the shop saying they are down to 80%? By don't drive heavy on the brakes, do you also mean you don't "ride the brakes"? Maybe the calipers aren't adjusted properly. Was it down to 80% on both inner and outer pads? Or just 1 or the other? If inner and outer are wearing differently it's possible your caliper slides are sticking. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
"Chet Shannon" <funguy99504@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f4b0ac40.0410060908.3b218dc6@posting.google.c om... > Hello, > I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake > pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly > here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the > brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months > later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away > in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I > don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like > once a week. Time elapsed is meaningless. Miles is what counts. How many miles between the pads being replaced and the shop saying they are down to 80%? By don't drive heavy on the brakes, do you also mean you don't "ride the brakes"? Maybe the calipers aren't adjusted properly. Was it down to 80% on both inner and outer pads? Or just 1 or the other? If inner and outer are wearing differently it's possible your caliper slides are sticking. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
In article <f4b0ac40.0410060908.3b218dc6@posting.google.com >,
funguy99504@yahoo.com (Chet Shannon) wrote: >Hello, >I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake >pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly >here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the >brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months >later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away >in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I >don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like >once a week. > >Thanks, >Chet "Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away >in such a short amount of time?" Pads or shoes? Shoes will wear much faster than normal when first seating in since there are slight differences in radii between the shoes & drums. After that, the apparent wear will decrease. I wouldn't be suprised if pads did something similar. I wouldn't get too concerned yet. Just note the % wear next time they're checked to see if the high rate continues or not. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
In article <f4b0ac40.0410060908.3b218dc6@posting.google.com >,
funguy99504@yahoo.com (Chet Shannon) wrote: >Hello, >I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake >pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly >here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the >brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months >later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away >in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I >don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like >once a week. > >Thanks, >Chet "Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away >in such a short amount of time?" Pads or shoes? Shoes will wear much faster than normal when first seating in since there are slight differences in radii between the shoes & drums. After that, the apparent wear will decrease. I wouldn't be suprised if pads did something similar. I wouldn't get too concerned yet. Just note the % wear next time they're checked to see if the high rate continues or not. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
In article <f4b0ac40.0410060908.3b218dc6@posting.google.com >,
funguy99504@yahoo.com (Chet Shannon) wrote: >Hello, >I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake >pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly >here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the >brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months >later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away >in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I >don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like >once a week. > >Thanks, >Chet "Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away >in such a short amount of time?" Pads or shoes? Shoes will wear much faster than normal when first seating in since there are slight differences in radii between the shoes & drums. After that, the apparent wear will decrease. I wouldn't be suprised if pads did something similar. I wouldn't get too concerned yet. Just note the % wear next time they're checked to see if the high rate continues or not. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
On 6 Oct 2004 10:08:01 -0700, funguy99504@yahoo.com (Chet Shannon)
wrote: >I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake >pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly >here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the >brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months >later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away >in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I >don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like >once a week. The estimate of percentage is very, very rough while they're still working, I've had percentages go down and *up* for a year or more. Just keep your eye on it at every checkup. J. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
On 6 Oct 2004 10:08:01 -0700, funguy99504@yahoo.com (Chet Shannon)
wrote: >I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake >pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly >here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the >brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months >later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away >in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I >don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like >once a week. The estimate of percentage is very, very rough while they're still working, I've had percentages go down and *up* for a year or more. Just keep your eye on it at every checkup. J. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
On 6 Oct 2004 10:08:01 -0700, funguy99504@yahoo.com (Chet Shannon)
wrote: >I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake >pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly >here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the >brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months >later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away >in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I >don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like >once a week. The estimate of percentage is very, very rough while they're still working, I've had percentages go down and *up* for a year or more. Just keep your eye on it at every checkup. J. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
i lived in sf until earlier this year, and had over 50k on the original
pads. and i lived at the top of nob hill, so i had to deal with [steep] hills all the time. basically, pads last a good long time. and they have audible wear indicators for the real hard core misers out there that will only change at the last possible second. dealers otoh, especially sf honda, are just bandits. get a second opinion from an independent, or better yet, inspect the pads yourself. Chet Shannon wrote: > Hello, > I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake > pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly > here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the > brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months > later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away > in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I > don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like > once a week. > > Thanks, > Chet |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
i lived in sf until earlier this year, and had over 50k on the original
pads. and i lived at the top of nob hill, so i had to deal with [steep] hills all the time. basically, pads last a good long time. and they have audible wear indicators for the real hard core misers out there that will only change at the last possible second. dealers otoh, especially sf honda, are just bandits. get a second opinion from an independent, or better yet, inspect the pads yourself. Chet Shannon wrote: > Hello, > I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake > pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly > here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the > brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months > later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away > in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I > don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like > once a week. > > Thanks, > Chet |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
i lived in sf until earlier this year, and had over 50k on the original
pads. and i lived at the top of nob hill, so i had to deal with [steep] hills all the time. basically, pads last a good long time. and they have audible wear indicators for the real hard core misers out there that will only change at the last possible second. dealers otoh, especially sf honda, are just bandits. get a second opinion from an independent, or better yet, inspect the pads yourself. Chet Shannon wrote: > Hello, > I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake > pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly > here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the > brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months > later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away > in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I > don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like > once a week. > > Thanks, > Chet |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
Oh no more than 4000 miles elapsed on the brake job since this latest
service check. The readings from the dealer on the report shows 8mm left front remaining, 8mm right front remaining. I believe they are referring to the pads. I gather the pads start out at 10mm. And I definitely don't ride the brakes. When I asked about 20% of the brakes depth disappearing in 2 months the service rep said "oh this city tears up brakes and tires" because my tires are 50% worn down in the 24,000 miles I've driven on them. I guess that's probably reasonable but the brakes wearing down 10% a month doesn't make sense to me. It makes even less sense since the brakes weren't wearing down that quickly in the year and a half that I've lived here (prior to the brake job) since at 10% a month I would have gone through almost two sets of brake pads and I haven't done that. If the trend continues at 10% a month I'll have to check with the dealer again for something being wrong with their brake job. Thanks, Chet "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<KIV8d.8580$PL1.3339@news02.roc.ny>... > "Chet Shannon" <funguy99504@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:f4b0ac40.0410060908.3b218dc6@posting.google.c om... > > Hello, > > I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake > > pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly > > here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the > > brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months > > later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away > > in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I > > don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like > > once a week. > > Time elapsed is meaningless. Miles is what counts. How many miles between > the pads being replaced and the shop saying they are down to 80%? > > By don't drive heavy on the brakes, do you also mean you don't "ride the > brakes"? Maybe the calipers aren't adjusted properly. Was it down to 80% > on both inner and outer pads? Or just 1 or the other? If inner and outer > are wearing differently it's possible your caliper slides are sticking. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
Oh no more than 4000 miles elapsed on the brake job since this latest
service check. The readings from the dealer on the report shows 8mm left front remaining, 8mm right front remaining. I believe they are referring to the pads. I gather the pads start out at 10mm. And I definitely don't ride the brakes. When I asked about 20% of the brakes depth disappearing in 2 months the service rep said "oh this city tears up brakes and tires" because my tires are 50% worn down in the 24,000 miles I've driven on them. I guess that's probably reasonable but the brakes wearing down 10% a month doesn't make sense to me. It makes even less sense since the brakes weren't wearing down that quickly in the year and a half that I've lived here (prior to the brake job) since at 10% a month I would have gone through almost two sets of brake pads and I haven't done that. If the trend continues at 10% a month I'll have to check with the dealer again for something being wrong with their brake job. Thanks, Chet "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<KIV8d.8580$PL1.3339@news02.roc.ny>... > "Chet Shannon" <funguy99504@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:f4b0ac40.0410060908.3b218dc6@posting.google.c om... > > Hello, > > I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake > > pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly > > here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the > > brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months > > later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away > > in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I > > don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like > > once a week. > > Time elapsed is meaningless. Miles is what counts. How many miles between > the pads being replaced and the shop saying they are down to 80%? > > By don't drive heavy on the brakes, do you also mean you don't "ride the > brakes"? Maybe the calipers aren't adjusted properly. Was it down to 80% > on both inner and outer pads? Or just 1 or the other? If inner and outer > are wearing differently it's possible your caliper slides are sticking. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
Oh no more than 4000 miles elapsed on the brake job since this latest
service check. The readings from the dealer on the report shows 8mm left front remaining, 8mm right front remaining. I believe they are referring to the pads. I gather the pads start out at 10mm. And I definitely don't ride the brakes. When I asked about 20% of the brakes depth disappearing in 2 months the service rep said "oh this city tears up brakes and tires" because my tires are 50% worn down in the 24,000 miles I've driven on them. I guess that's probably reasonable but the brakes wearing down 10% a month doesn't make sense to me. It makes even less sense since the brakes weren't wearing down that quickly in the year and a half that I've lived here (prior to the brake job) since at 10% a month I would have gone through almost two sets of brake pads and I haven't done that. If the trend continues at 10% a month I'll have to check with the dealer again for something being wrong with their brake job. Thanks, Chet "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<KIV8d.8580$PL1.3339@news02.roc.ny>... > "Chet Shannon" <funguy99504@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:f4b0ac40.0410060908.3b218dc6@posting.google.c om... > > Hello, > > I have a question for you about brake wear. I just had my rear brake > > pads replaced on 7/24/04. I live in San Francisco and it's very hilly > > here. I just had another servicing done on the car and I'm told the > > brake pads are now 80%. (This is on 10/2/04 a little over 2 months > > later.) Does this sound right that 20% of the brake pad has worn away > > in such a short amount of time? (It's a 1992 Honda civic SI.) I > > don't drive heavy on the breaks and probably only go on a hill like > > once a week. > > Time elapsed is meaningless. Miles is what counts. How many miles between > the pads being replaced and the shop saying they are down to 80%? > > By don't drive heavy on the brakes, do you also mean you don't "ride the > brakes"? Maybe the calipers aren't adjusted properly. Was it down to 80% > on both inner and outer pads? Or just 1 or the other? If inner and outer > are wearing differently it's possible your caliper slides are sticking. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
"Chet Shannon" <funguy99504@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f4b0ac40.0410062136.40954c75@posting.google.c om... > Oh no more than 4000 miles elapsed on the brake job since this latest > service check. The readings from the dealer on the report shows 8mm > left front remaining, 8mm right front remaining. I believe they are > referring to the pads. I gather the pads start out at 10mm. And I > definitely don't ride the brakes. 4000 is does sound like a short period to be 20% down. But you list left and right. There are 4 pads. Left inner and outer, right inner and outer. Is what you listed apply for all 4? Or just the outers on each side? > When I asked about 20% of the brakes depth disappearing in 2 months > the service rep said "oh this city tears up brakes and tires" because > my tires are 50% worn down in the 24,000 miles I've driven on them. I > guess that's probably reasonable but the brakes wearing down 10% a > month doesn't make sense to me. Once again, ignore time, it's mileage. Maybe someone else will chime in here and say that pads wear more or less in the early or late part of their life and that half of a 2 month sample is not what they are going to do every month for life. > It makes even less sense since the brakes weren't wearing down that > quickly in the year and a half that I've lived here (prior to the > brake job) since at 10% a month I would have gone through almost two > sets of brake pads and I haven't done that. If the trend continues at > 10% a month I'll have to check with the dealer again for something > being wrong with their brake job. But were you checking every 2 months before? Part of me says maybe they do wear quicker in the early stages cause they are thicker and maybe get a little more pressure, but I don't really know. Also, they may just be cheap pads. My first time changing brakes on my Accord I used pads from AutoZone. Those performed very poorly and squeaked like mad. I threw them out in under 5000 miles and replaced them with the Gold line from CarQuest. |
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"Chet Shannon" <funguy99504@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f4b0ac40.0410062136.40954c75@posting.google.c om... > Oh no more than 4000 miles elapsed on the brake job since this latest > service check. The readings from the dealer on the report shows 8mm > left front remaining, 8mm right front remaining. I believe they are > referring to the pads. I gather the pads start out at 10mm. And I > definitely don't ride the brakes. 4000 is does sound like a short period to be 20% down. But you list left and right. There are 4 pads. Left inner and outer, right inner and outer. Is what you listed apply for all 4? Or just the outers on each side? > When I asked about 20% of the brakes depth disappearing in 2 months > the service rep said "oh this city tears up brakes and tires" because > my tires are 50% worn down in the 24,000 miles I've driven on them. I > guess that's probably reasonable but the brakes wearing down 10% a > month doesn't make sense to me. Once again, ignore time, it's mileage. Maybe someone else will chime in here and say that pads wear more or less in the early or late part of their life and that half of a 2 month sample is not what they are going to do every month for life. > It makes even less sense since the brakes weren't wearing down that > quickly in the year and a half that I've lived here (prior to the > brake job) since at 10% a month I would have gone through almost two > sets of brake pads and I haven't done that. If the trend continues at > 10% a month I'll have to check with the dealer again for something > being wrong with their brake job. But were you checking every 2 months before? Part of me says maybe they do wear quicker in the early stages cause they are thicker and maybe get a little more pressure, but I don't really know. Also, they may just be cheap pads. My first time changing brakes on my Accord I used pads from AutoZone. Those performed very poorly and squeaked like mad. I threw them out in under 5000 miles and replaced them with the Gold line from CarQuest. |
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"Chet Shannon" <funguy99504@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f4b0ac40.0410062136.40954c75@posting.google.c om... > Oh no more than 4000 miles elapsed on the brake job since this latest > service check. The readings from the dealer on the report shows 8mm > left front remaining, 8mm right front remaining. I believe they are > referring to the pads. I gather the pads start out at 10mm. And I > definitely don't ride the brakes. 4000 is does sound like a short period to be 20% down. But you list left and right. There are 4 pads. Left inner and outer, right inner and outer. Is what you listed apply for all 4? Or just the outers on each side? > When I asked about 20% of the brakes depth disappearing in 2 months > the service rep said "oh this city tears up brakes and tires" because > my tires are 50% worn down in the 24,000 miles I've driven on them. I > guess that's probably reasonable but the brakes wearing down 10% a > month doesn't make sense to me. Once again, ignore time, it's mileage. Maybe someone else will chime in here and say that pads wear more or less in the early or late part of their life and that half of a 2 month sample is not what they are going to do every month for life. > It makes even less sense since the brakes weren't wearing down that > quickly in the year and a half that I've lived here (prior to the > brake job) since at 10% a month I would have gone through almost two > sets of brake pads and I haven't done that. If the trend continues at > 10% a month I'll have to check with the dealer again for something > being wrong with their brake job. But were you checking every 2 months before? Part of me says maybe they do wear quicker in the early stages cause they are thicker and maybe get a little more pressure, but I don't really know. Also, they may just be cheap pads. My first time changing brakes on my Accord I used pads from AutoZone. Those performed very poorly and squeaked like mad. I threw them out in under 5000 miles and replaced them with the Gold line from CarQuest. |
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"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote
> "Chet Shannon" <funguy99504@yahoo.com> wrote snip > > When I asked about 20% of the brakes depth disappearing in 2 months > > the service rep said "oh this city tears up brakes and tires" because > > my tires are 50% worn down in the 24,000 miles I've driven on them. I > > guess that's probably reasonable but the brakes wearing down 10% a > > month doesn't make sense to me. > > Once again, ignore time, it's mileage. It's driving habits. If the wear is unusual, is it unusual for the car to be driven in a hilly area? Has the car been driving in the city (more stops, so more braking) as opposed to on the highway? Has the driver of the car changed to someone who rides the brakes on the hills? In theory, one can drive from California to Florida and use the brakes once. On the other hand, one can drive a mile in the city and use the brakes several times. I can believe the pads wore at 10% a month with frequent San Francisco downtown driving. |
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"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote
> "Chet Shannon" <funguy99504@yahoo.com> wrote snip > > When I asked about 20% of the brakes depth disappearing in 2 months > > the service rep said "oh this city tears up brakes and tires" because > > my tires are 50% worn down in the 24,000 miles I've driven on them. I > > guess that's probably reasonable but the brakes wearing down 10% a > > month doesn't make sense to me. > > Once again, ignore time, it's mileage. It's driving habits. If the wear is unusual, is it unusual for the car to be driven in a hilly area? Has the car been driving in the city (more stops, so more braking) as opposed to on the highway? Has the driver of the car changed to someone who rides the brakes on the hills? In theory, one can drive from California to Florida and use the brakes once. On the other hand, one can drive a mile in the city and use the brakes several times. I can believe the pads wore at 10% a month with frequent San Francisco downtown driving. |
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"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote
> "Chet Shannon" <funguy99504@yahoo.com> wrote snip > > When I asked about 20% of the brakes depth disappearing in 2 months > > the service rep said "oh this city tears up brakes and tires" because > > my tires are 50% worn down in the 24,000 miles I've driven on them. I > > guess that's probably reasonable but the brakes wearing down 10% a > > month doesn't make sense to me. > > Once again, ignore time, it's mileage. It's driving habits. If the wear is unusual, is it unusual for the car to be driven in a hilly area? Has the car been driving in the city (more stops, so more braking) as opposed to on the highway? Has the driver of the car changed to someone who rides the brakes on the hills? In theory, one can drive from California to Florida and use the brakes once. On the other hand, one can drive a mile in the city and use the brakes several times. I can believe the pads wore at 10% a month with frequent San Francisco downtown driving. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
Caroline wrote:
<snip> > I can believe the pads wore at 10% a month with frequent San Francisco downtown > driving. i can't. some of the dealers in that town [sf honda] are absolute bandits. a friend of mine took his car in for service at 15k miles & they called him at work with a horror story about how his pads were down the the metal and how the vehicle was too dangerous to drive until fixed. so he gave them the go-ahead. unfortunately i was out of town at the time, so couldn't tell my friend that when i'd had his car to fix a busted door mirror, i'd rotated the tires & checked the pads. there was more than 80% present only 2 weeks before sf honda's little game. like i said, i had 50k of sf driving on my car, original pads, and that /included/ regularly doing the lombard st tourist thing when i had friends in from out of town. unless the o.p. does 100 miles a night with a dominos pizza delivery job, 10% is something of a stretch. |
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Caroline wrote:
<snip> > I can believe the pads wore at 10% a month with frequent San Francisco downtown > driving. i can't. some of the dealers in that town [sf honda] are absolute bandits. a friend of mine took his car in for service at 15k miles & they called him at work with a horror story about how his pads were down the the metal and how the vehicle was too dangerous to drive until fixed. so he gave them the go-ahead. unfortunately i was out of town at the time, so couldn't tell my friend that when i'd had his car to fix a busted door mirror, i'd rotated the tires & checked the pads. there was more than 80% present only 2 weeks before sf honda's little game. like i said, i had 50k of sf driving on my car, original pads, and that /included/ regularly doing the lombard st tourist thing when i had friends in from out of town. unless the o.p. does 100 miles a night with a dominos pizza delivery job, 10% is something of a stretch. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
Caroline wrote:
<snip> > I can believe the pads wore at 10% a month with frequent San Francisco downtown > driving. i can't. some of the dealers in that town [sf honda] are absolute bandits. a friend of mine took his car in for service at 15k miles & they called him at work with a horror story about how his pads were down the the metal and how the vehicle was too dangerous to drive until fixed. so he gave them the go-ahead. unfortunately i was out of town at the time, so couldn't tell my friend that when i'd had his car to fix a busted door mirror, i'd rotated the tires & checked the pads. there was more than 80% present only 2 weeks before sf honda's little game. like i said, i had 50k of sf driving on my car, original pads, and that /included/ regularly doing the lombard st tourist thing when i had friends in from out of town. unless the o.p. does 100 miles a night with a dominos pizza delivery job, 10% is something of a stretch. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote
snip > like i said, i had 50k of sf driving on my car, original pads, and that > /included/ regularly doing the lombard st tourist thing when i had > friends in from out of town. Fair enough. I'll just throw in that the original pads on my 1991 Civic lasted only 43k miles and 1.75 years. Maybe two weeks of this was spent driving in mountainous areas. The rest of the driving was in very flat areas. > unless the o.p. does 100 miles a night with a dominos pizza delivery > job, 10% is something of a stretch. Depends on driving habits. To the previous list, add: Is it a manual transmission where the driver often uses the engine to brake? I do agree that plenty of shops (dealer and otherwise) are into ripping off customers for brake pads. Checking brake pad thickness is not difficult, even for someone who has minimal mechanical experience. At the least, stick around the shop who's checking the pads and make the technician show you the brake pad thickness up close and personal. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote
snip > like i said, i had 50k of sf driving on my car, original pads, and that > /included/ regularly doing the lombard st tourist thing when i had > friends in from out of town. Fair enough. I'll just throw in that the original pads on my 1991 Civic lasted only 43k miles and 1.75 years. Maybe two weeks of this was spent driving in mountainous areas. The rest of the driving was in very flat areas. > unless the o.p. does 100 miles a night with a dominos pizza delivery > job, 10% is something of a stretch. Depends on driving habits. To the previous list, add: Is it a manual transmission where the driver often uses the engine to brake? I do agree that plenty of shops (dealer and otherwise) are into ripping off customers for brake pads. Checking brake pad thickness is not difficult, even for someone who has minimal mechanical experience. At the least, stick around the shop who's checking the pads and make the technician show you the brake pad thickness up close and personal. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote
snip > like i said, i had 50k of sf driving on my car, original pads, and that > /included/ regularly doing the lombard st tourist thing when i had > friends in from out of town. Fair enough. I'll just throw in that the original pads on my 1991 Civic lasted only 43k miles and 1.75 years. Maybe two weeks of this was spent driving in mountainous areas. The rest of the driving was in very flat areas. > unless the o.p. does 100 miles a night with a dominos pizza delivery > job, 10% is something of a stretch. Depends on driving habits. To the previous list, add: Is it a manual transmission where the driver often uses the engine to brake? I do agree that plenty of shops (dealer and otherwise) are into ripping off customers for brake pads. Checking brake pad thickness is not difficult, even for someone who has minimal mechanical experience. At the least, stick around the shop who's checking the pads and make the technician show you the brake pad thickness up close and personal. |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
Caroline wrote:
> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote > snip > >>like i said, i had 50k of sf driving on my car, original pads, and that >>/included/ regularly doing the lombard st tourist thing when i had >>friends in from out of town. > > > Fair enough. > > I'll just throw in that the original pads on my 1991 Civic lasted only 43k miles > and 1.75 years. Maybe two weeks of this was spent driving in mountainous areas. > The rest of the driving was in very flat areas. i think the '88-'91's has a softer pad material because the vacuum servo on my '89 is much smaller than my 2000 but the brake feels the same. both have 13/16" brake cylinders. > > >>unless the o.p. does 100 miles a night with a dominos pizza delivery >>job, 10% is something of a stretch. > > > Depends on driving habits. > > To the previous list, add: Is it a manual transmission where the driver often > uses the engine to brake? that's a good point! mine's an auto, but it still engine brakes - programmed in depending on deceleration rate & initial speed. > > I do agree that plenty of shops (dealer and otherwise) are into ripping off > customers for brake pads. Checking brake pad thickness is not difficult, even > for someone who has minimal mechanical experience. At the least, stick around > the shop who's checking the pads and make the technician show you the brake pad > thickness up close and personal. > > |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
Caroline wrote:
> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote > snip > >>like i said, i had 50k of sf driving on my car, original pads, and that >>/included/ regularly doing the lombard st tourist thing when i had >>friends in from out of town. > > > Fair enough. > > I'll just throw in that the original pads on my 1991 Civic lasted only 43k miles > and 1.75 years. Maybe two weeks of this was spent driving in mountainous areas. > The rest of the driving was in very flat areas. i think the '88-'91's has a softer pad material because the vacuum servo on my '89 is much smaller than my 2000 but the brake feels the same. both have 13/16" brake cylinders. > > >>unless the o.p. does 100 miles a night with a dominos pizza delivery >>job, 10% is something of a stretch. > > > Depends on driving habits. > > To the previous list, add: Is it a manual transmission where the driver often > uses the engine to brake? that's a good point! mine's an auto, but it still engine brakes - programmed in depending on deceleration rate & initial speed. > > I do agree that plenty of shops (dealer and otherwise) are into ripping off > customers for brake pads. Checking brake pad thickness is not difficult, even > for someone who has minimal mechanical experience. At the least, stick around > the shop who's checking the pads and make the technician show you the brake pad > thickness up close and personal. > > |
Re: Normal Brake pad wear time in hilly areas?
Caroline wrote:
> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote > snip > >>like i said, i had 50k of sf driving on my car, original pads, and that >>/included/ regularly doing the lombard st tourist thing when i had >>friends in from out of town. > > > Fair enough. > > I'll just throw in that the original pads on my 1991 Civic lasted only 43k miles > and 1.75 years. Maybe two weeks of this was spent driving in mountainous areas. > The rest of the driving was in very flat areas. i think the '88-'91's has a softer pad material because the vacuum servo on my '89 is much smaller than my 2000 but the brake feels the same. both have 13/16" brake cylinders. > > >>unless the o.p. does 100 miles a night with a dominos pizza delivery >>job, 10% is something of a stretch. > > > Depends on driving habits. > > To the previous list, add: Is it a manual transmission where the driver often > uses the engine to brake? that's a good point! mine's an auto, but it still engine brakes - programmed in depending on deceleration rate & initial speed. > > I do agree that plenty of shops (dealer and otherwise) are into ripping off > customers for brake pads. Checking brake pad thickness is not difficult, even > for someone who has minimal mechanical experience. At the least, stick around > the shop who's checking the pads and make the technician show you the brake pad > thickness up close and personal. > > |
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