odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

Hi,

After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
hand in front of the vents.

Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?

It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.

My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).

Thanks in advance.
Jay K

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

"jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
> the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
> hand in front of the vents.
>
> Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?
>
> It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.
>
> My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).

Sounds like condensation from the AC during a high humidity spell. If it
continues and is a refrigerant leak you will notice a degradation in your
ACs ability to "generate cool". If your AC continues to operate normally,
then obviously you're not losing refrigerant.

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

"jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158543592.498616.278300@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
>
> After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
> the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
> hand in front of the vents.
>
> Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?
>
> It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.
>
> My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).

Sounds like condensation from the AC during a high humidity spell. If it
continues and is a refrigerant leak you will notice a degradation in your
ACs ability to "generate cool". If your AC continues to operate normally,
then obviously you're not losing refrigerant.

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

"jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158543592.498616.278300@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
>
> After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
> the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
> hand in front of the vents.
>
> Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?
>
> It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.
>
> My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).

Sounds like condensation from the AC during a high humidity spell. If it
continues and is a refrigerant leak you will notice a degradation in your
ACs ability to "generate cool". If your AC continues to operate normally,
then obviously you're not losing refrigerant.

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:16:04 -0400, "Seth"
<seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1158543592.498616.278300@e3g2000cwe.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
>> the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
>> hand in front of the vents.
>>
>> Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?
>>
>> It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.
>>
>> My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).
>
>Sounds like condensation from the AC during a high humidity spell. If it
>continues and is a refrigerant leak you will notice a degradation in your
>ACs ability to "generate cool". If your AC continues to operate normally,
>then obviously you're not losing refrigerant.

Second that. It is not unusual for fog to come out of the vents when
the humidity is high.

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:16:04 -0400, "Seth"
<seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1158543592.498616.278300@e3g2000cwe.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
>> the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
>> hand in front of the vents.
>>
>> Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?
>>
>> It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.
>>
>> My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).
>
>Sounds like condensation from the AC during a high humidity spell. If it
>continues and is a refrigerant leak you will notice a degradation in your
>ACs ability to "generate cool". If your AC continues to operate normally,
>then obviously you're not losing refrigerant.

Second that. It is not unusual for fog to come out of the vents when
the humidity is high.

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:16:04 -0400, "Seth"
<seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1158543592.498616.278300@e3g2000cwe.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
>> the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
>> hand in front of the vents.
>>
>> Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?
>>
>> It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.
>>
>> My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).
>
>Sounds like condensation from the AC during a high humidity spell. If it
>continues and is a refrigerant leak you will notice a degradation in your
>ACs ability to "generate cool". If your AC continues to operate normally,
>then obviously you're not losing refrigerant.

Second that. It is not unusual for fog to come out of the vents when
the humidity is high.

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006
>> Sounds like condensation from the AC during a high humidity spell. If it
>> continues and is a refrigerant leak you will notice a degradation in your
>> ACs ability to "generate cool". If your AC continues to operate normally,
>> then obviously you're not losing refrigerant.
>
> Second that. It is not unusual for fog to come out of the vents when
> the humidity is high.
>

Especially if your A/C is working at top efficiency<g>

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006
>> Sounds like condensation from the AC during a high humidity spell. If it
>> continues and is a refrigerant leak you will notice a degradation in your
>> ACs ability to "generate cool". If your AC continues to operate normally,
>> then obviously you're not losing refrigerant.
>
> Second that. It is not unusual for fog to come out of the vents when
> the humidity is high.
>

Especially if your A/C is working at top efficiency<g>

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006
>> Sounds like condensation from the AC during a high humidity spell. If it
>> continues and is a refrigerant leak you will notice a degradation in your
>> ACs ability to "generate cool". If your AC continues to operate normally,
>> then obviously you're not losing refrigerant.
>
> Second that. It is not unusual for fog to come out of the vents when
> the humidity is high.
>

Especially if your A/C is working at top efficiency<g>

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

jaykay wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
> the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
> hand in front of the vents.
>
> Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?
>
> It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.
>
> My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Jay K

You may be a wee tad low on refrigerant. Normally, you shouldn't
see much fog, even with high humidity. Why? with the proper
charge, usually the coil temp is high enough to avoid blowing fog.
In most cases, blowing fog is due to being slightly low on charge.
This causes the coil temp to drop below freezing, and hence, you
see fog. If charged back up, the coil temp rises above freezing, and
no more fog. Better cooling too...
MK

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

jaykay wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
> the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
> hand in front of the vents.
>
> Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?
>
> It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.
>
> My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Jay K

You may be a wee tad low on refrigerant. Normally, you shouldn't
see much fog, even with high humidity. Why? with the proper
charge, usually the coil temp is high enough to avoid blowing fog.
In most cases, blowing fog is due to being slightly low on charge.
This causes the coil temp to drop below freezing, and hence, you
see fog. If charged back up, the coil temp rises above freezing, and
no more fog. Better cooling too...
MK

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

jaykay wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
> the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
> hand in front of the vents.
>
> Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?
>
> It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.
>
> My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Jay K

You may be a wee tad low on refrigerant. Normally, you shouldn't
see much fog, even with high humidity. Why? with the proper
charge, usually the coil temp is high enough to avoid blowing fog.
In most cases, blowing fog is due to being slightly low on charge.
This causes the coil temp to drop below freezing, and hence, you
see fog. If charged back up, the coil temp rises above freezing, and
no more fog. Better cooling too...
MK

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

On 17 Sep 2006 18:39:52 -0700, "jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
>the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
>hand in front of the vents.

I concur with the other replies. Moisture did not condense on your
hand, because your hand is warmer than the air from the vent.


Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

On 17 Sep 2006 18:39:52 -0700, "jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
>the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
>hand in front of the vents.

I concur with the other replies. Moisture did not condense on your
hand, because your hand is warmer than the air from the vent.


Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

On 17 Sep 2006 18:39:52 -0700, "jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
>the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
>hand in front of the vents.

I concur with the other replies. Moisture did not condense on your
hand, because your hand is warmer than the air from the vent.


Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

As well as checking refrigerant level check the drain tube isn't plugged.


"Elliot Richmond" <xmrichmond@xaustin.xrr.xcom> wrote in message
news:j0ptg2p7ggttkh7hjg4pk5r5d5tboga3am@4ax.com...
> On 17 Sep 2006 18:39:52 -0700, "jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
>>the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
>>hand in front of the vents.
>
> I concur with the other replies. Moisture did not condense on your
> hand, because your hand is warmer than the air from the vent.
>
>
> Elliot Richmond
> Itinerant astronomy teacher

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

As well as checking refrigerant level check the drain tube isn't plugged.


"Elliot Richmond" <xmrichmond@xaustin.xrr.xcom> wrote in message
news:j0ptg2p7ggttkh7hjg4pk5r5d5tboga3am@4ax.com...
> On 17 Sep 2006 18:39:52 -0700, "jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
>>the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
>>hand in front of the vents.
>
> I concur with the other replies. Moisture did not condense on your
> hand, because your hand is warmer than the air from the vent.
>
>
> Elliot Richmond
> Itinerant astronomy teacher

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

As well as checking refrigerant level check the drain tube isn't plugged.


"Elliot Richmond" <xmrichmond@xaustin.xrr.xcom> wrote in message
news:j0ptg2p7ggttkh7hjg4pk5r5d5tboga3am@4ax.com...
> On 17 Sep 2006 18:39:52 -0700, "jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
>>the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
>>hand in front of the vents.
>
> I concur with the other replies. Moisture did not condense on your
> hand, because your hand is warmer than the air from the vent.
>
>
> Elliot Richmond
> Itinerant astronomy teacher

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

"jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158543592.498616.278300@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi,
>
> After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
> the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
> hand in front of the vents.
>
> Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?
>
> It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.
>
> My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Jay K

Absolutely normal in humid climes ... turn the A/C controls to Recirculate
and the 'problem' will almost instantaneously disappear.

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

"jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158543592.498616.278300@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi,
>
> After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
> the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
> hand in front of the vents.
>
> Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?
>
> It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.
>
> My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Jay K

Absolutely normal in humid climes ... turn the A/C controls to Recirculate
and the 'problem' will almost instantaneously disappear.

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

"jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158543592.498616.278300@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi,
>
> After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
> the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
> hand in front of the vents.
>
> Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?
>
> It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.
>
> My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Jay K

Absolutely normal in humid climes ... turn the A/C controls to Recirculate
and the 'problem' will almost instantaneously disappear.

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

Hi,

It must be because of high humidity. There were no fumes once the
weather changed!!!

Thank you all for your replies!!

Regards,
Jay K

mpwilliams wrote:
> "jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1158543592.498616.278300@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
> > the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
> > hand in front of the vents.
> >
> > Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?
> >
> > It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.
> >
> > My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Jay K
>
> Absolutely normal in humid climes ... turn the A/C controls to Recirculate
> and the 'problem' will almost instantaneously disappear.

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

Hi,

It must be because of high humidity. There were no fumes once the
weather changed!!!

Thank you all for your replies!!

Regards,
Jay K

mpwilliams wrote:
> "jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1158543592.498616.278300@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
> > the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
> > hand in front of the vents.
> >
> > Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?
> >
> > It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.
> >
> > My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Jay K
>
> Absolutely normal in humid climes ... turn the A/C controls to Recirculate
> and the 'problem' will almost instantaneously disappear.

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

Hi,

It must be because of high humidity. There were no fumes once the
weather changed!!!

Thank you all for your replies!!

Regards,
Jay K

mpwilliams wrote:
> "jaykay" <emailtokjk@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1158543592.498616.278300@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > After running the AC for a couple of minutes, I get odorless fumes from
> > the AC vent of the car. It does not condense in my hand when I place my
> > hand in front of the vents.
> >
> > Is it just moisture? Or AC refrigerant that leaks into air stream?
> >
> > It was raining and I'm at Chicago suburbs.
> >
> > My car is 1996 civic LX (125,000 Mi).
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Jay K
>
> Absolutely normal in humid climes ... turn the A/C controls to Recirculate
> and the 'problem' will almost instantaneously disappear.

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

jaykay wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It must be because of high humidity. There were no fumes once the
> weather changed!!!
>
> Thank you all for your replies!!
>
> Regards,
> Jay K

It still may be a bit low though. It's quite possible to be low,
and not fog in some conditions. Myself, I don't really agree
that it's normal. I live in humid Houston, and mine never does
that. None of our cars do.
If you blow fog, that means your evap coil temp is at or
below freezing. Usually, on a slightly low system, this would
occur at idle mostly. The pressure may drop below the freezing
level, but can rise back up when driving due to the higher rpms.
But... You don't have to rely on my jibber jabber.
The best way to check that is just look at the sight glass
if yours has one. Most that have glasses will be canister looking
things near the front end usually, and will have a little clear sight
glass
on top. Let the a/c crank up full blast and get stable for a while. The
sight
glass should be clear. If you see bubbles flowing across the glass,
it probably needs a shot. If there is no sight glass, you kinda
have to go by ear.. Myself, I look at the receiver, etc, and charge
until it has a uniform sweatback. But I also use gauges. The
sight glass is the best way to check with no gauges. Actually,
I'll take it's word over the pressures I see.. But almost always the
pressures will be normal is the glass is clear.
I had to fix the a/c on the accord I just bought. But it was only a
leaking service valve, and a cap with no O-ring. Pulled a vacuum,
charged it, and about 6 weeks later, it's still working good. :)
Doesn't seem to be leaking at all. Or if it is, it's really small..
Got really lucky. I was expecting it to leak out in a week..
And yep, mine never blows fog, and I do have a clear sight glass.
Between me, and the guy I work with, we still have about 90 lb's
of freon 12.. :) I just bought another 30 lb jug of 12 the other day..
The price was right, and I couldn't pass it up. Gotta nuff freon to
keep it pumped up for a good while.. I kept the system using 12, cuz
it cools better than retrofiting it to 134a..
MK

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

jaykay wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It must be because of high humidity. There were no fumes once the
> weather changed!!!
>
> Thank you all for your replies!!
>
> Regards,
> Jay K

It still may be a bit low though. It's quite possible to be low,
and not fog in some conditions. Myself, I don't really agree
that it's normal. I live in humid Houston, and mine never does
that. None of our cars do.
If you blow fog, that means your evap coil temp is at or
below freezing. Usually, on a slightly low system, this would
occur at idle mostly. The pressure may drop below the freezing
level, but can rise back up when driving due to the higher rpms.
But... You don't have to rely on my jibber jabber.
The best way to check that is just look at the sight glass
if yours has one. Most that have glasses will be canister looking
things near the front end usually, and will have a little clear sight
glass
on top. Let the a/c crank up full blast and get stable for a while. The
sight
glass should be clear. If you see bubbles flowing across the glass,
it probably needs a shot. If there is no sight glass, you kinda
have to go by ear.. Myself, I look at the receiver, etc, and charge
until it has a uniform sweatback. But I also use gauges. The
sight glass is the best way to check with no gauges. Actually,
I'll take it's word over the pressures I see.. But almost always the
pressures will be normal is the glass is clear.
I had to fix the a/c on the accord I just bought. But it was only a
leaking service valve, and a cap with no O-ring. Pulled a vacuum,
charged it, and about 6 weeks later, it's still working good. :)
Doesn't seem to be leaking at all. Or if it is, it's really small..
Got really lucky. I was expecting it to leak out in a week..
And yep, mine never blows fog, and I do have a clear sight glass.
Between me, and the guy I work with, we still have about 90 lb's
of freon 12.. :) I just bought another 30 lb jug of 12 the other day..
The price was right, and I couldn't pass it up. Gotta nuff freon to
keep it pumped up for a good while.. I kept the system using 12, cuz
it cools better than retrofiting it to 134a..
MK

Re: odorless fumes from the AC vent
 

jaykay wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It must be because of high humidity. There were no fumes once the
> weather changed!!!
>
> Thank you all for your replies!!
>
> Regards,
> Jay K

It still may be a bit low though. It's quite possible to be low,
and not fog in some conditions. Myself, I don't really agree
that it's normal. I live in humid Houston, and mine never does
that. None of our cars do.
If you blow fog, that means your evap coil temp is at or
below freezing. Usually, on a slightly low system, this would
occur at idle mostly. The pressure may drop below the freezing
level, but can rise back up when driving due to the higher rpms.
But... You don't have to rely on my jibber jabber.
The best way to check that is just look at the sight glass
if yours has one. Most that have glasses will be canister looking
things near the front end usually, and will have a little clear sight
glass
on top. Let the a/c crank up full blast and get stable for a while. The
sight
glass should be clear. If you see bubbles flowing across the glass,
it probably needs a shot. If there is no sight glass, you kinda
have to go by ear.. Myself, I look at the receiver, etc, and charge
until it has a uniform sweatback. But I also use gauges. The
sight glass is the best way to check with no gauges. Actually,
I'll take it's word over the pressures I see.. But almost always the
pressures will be normal is the glass is clear.
I had to fix the a/c on the accord I just bought. But it was only a
leaking service valve, and a cap with no O-ring. Pulled a vacuum,
charged it, and about 6 weeks later, it's still working good. :)
Doesn't seem to be leaking at all. Or if it is, it's really small..
Got really lucky. I was expecting it to leak out in a week..
And yep, mine never blows fog, and I do have a clear sight glass.
Between me, and the guy I work with, we still have about 90 lb's
of freon 12.. :) I just bought another 30 lb jug of 12 the other day..
The price was right, and I couldn't pass it up. Gotta nuff freon to
keep it pumped up for a good while.. I kept the system using 12, cuz
it cools better than retrofiting it to 134a..
MK