Daniel

I replaced the front pads on my 2002 Odyssey after driving 40000 km mostly
city driving (70%). One of the 4 pads had 2/16 in material left : time
to change. New OEM pads from Honda dealer had almost 7/16 in of material.

I also checked one rear wheel. Discovered that the rear rotor is in fact a
rotor/drum combination (Large heavy part, must be very expensive to
replace if required. Would be wise not to over extend the life of the rear
pads to avoid abusing this rotor.)

Rotor brake pads act for normal braking, while the parking brake cable
runs inside the drum , where I assume it actuates some kind of brake shoes
againts the drum, like any regular drum/shoe rear brake system. ( I have not
removed the rotor/drum part to see for myself inside the drum).

The rear pads had 3/16 in material left. What is the minimum lining
thickness recommended for rear wheels on this vehicule? I know in general
rear wheels allow smaller thickness than front wheels. I also use the
following rule of thumb: if all 4 wheels brakes are in good operating
condition, rear pads/shoes should last twice as long as the front ones.

How does the parking cable brake system auto-adjust, if it has any
auto-adjusting system at all?

Thanks
Daniel Montreal

Daniel

Thanks George.

You are right about the rear cable brake adjustment. They should not wear
(because no friction involved when wheels are not turning) , therefore no
dynamic or self adjustment mechanism required.




"George Macdonald" <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote in message
news:3f0cc55c.52453381@news.tellurian.com...
> On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:21:08 GMT, "Daniel" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >I replaced the front pads on my 2002 Odyssey after driving 40000 km
mostly
> >city driving (70%). One of the 4 pads had 2/16 in material left :
time
> >to change. New OEM pads from Honda dealer had almost 7/16 in of
material.
> >
> >I also checked one rear wheel. Discovered that the rear rotor is in fact
a
> >rotor/drum combination (Large heavy part, must be very expensive to
> >replace if required. Would be wise not to over extend the life of the
rear
> >pads to avoid abusing this rotor.)
>
> According to <www.hondaautomotiveparts.com> the rotor/drum lists for
> $113.42 - a bit more than a regular rotor but not excessively.
>
> >Rotor brake pads act for normal braking, while the parking brake cable
> >runs inside the drum , where I assume it actuates some kind of brake
shoes
> >againts the drum, like any regular drum/shoe rear brake system. ( I have
not
> >removed the rotor/drum part to see for myself inside the drum).
> >
> >The rear pads had 3/16 in material left. What is the minimum lining
> >thickness recommended for rear wheels on this vehicule? I know in
general
> >rear wheels allow smaller thickness than front wheels. I also use the
> >following rule of thumb: if all 4 wheels brakes are in good operating
> >condition, rear pads/shoes should last twice as long as the front ones.
>
> That's not what I've found with Honda rear disk brakes on their smaller
> lighter cars - the rear pads wear out at ~40K miles and the fronts at ~70K
> miles with moderate brake usage. Honda usually specs 1.6mm (.06") as the
> wear limit for pad lining, so you may have a little while to go but you
> have to be careful since often, the inner pad wears more quickly than the
> outer and is more difficult to see.
>
> >How does the parking cable brake system auto-adjust, if it has any
> >auto-adjusting system at all?
>
> There's a diagram at the above Website and it shows what looks like a
> manual adjuster for the rear shoes - I guess they're not going to wear
much
> if they are only used for parking.
>
> Rgds, George Macdonald
>
> "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who,
me??

Me

"Daniel" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bF4Pa.27786$q42.1186@charlie.risq.qc.ca...
> Thanks George.
>
> You are right about the rear cable brake adjustment. They should not wear
> (because no friction involved when wheels are not turning) , therefore no
> dynamic or self adjustment mechanism required.

I once owned a car with disks on the rear but small drums for the handbrake
(U.K Vauxhall Cavalier), the manual advised periodically engaging the
handbrake at low speed to clean and adjust the drums.

MZ

I don't know about your Odyssey, but on other vehicles a cable adjustment is
enough, and can be done at the hand brake (under the cover).

Martin
"Daniel" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bF4Pa.27786$q42.1186@charlie.risq.qc.ca...
> Thanks George.
>
> You are right about the rear cable brake adjustment. They should not wear
> (because no friction involved when wheels are not turning) , therefore no
> dynamic or self adjustment mechanism required.
>
>
>
>
> "George Macdonald" <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote in message
> news:3f0cc55c.52453381@news.tellurian.com...
> > On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:21:08 GMT, "Daniel" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I replaced the front pads on my 2002 Odyssey after driving 40000 km
> mostly
> > >city driving (70%). One of the 4 pads had 2/16 in material left :
> time
> > >to change. New OEM pads from Honda dealer had almost 7/16 in of
> material.
> > >
> > >I also checked one rear wheel. Discovered that the rear rotor is in
fact
> a
> > >rotor/drum combination (Large heavy part, must be very expensive to
> > >replace if required. Would be wise not to over extend the life of the
> rear
> > >pads to avoid abusing this rotor.)
> >
> > According to <www.hondaautomotiveparts.com> the rotor/drum lists for
> > $113.42 - a bit more than a regular rotor but not excessively.
> >
> > >Rotor brake pads act for normal braking, while the parking brake
cable
> > >runs inside the drum , where I assume it actuates some kind of brake
> shoes
> > >againts the drum, like any regular drum/shoe rear brake system. ( I
have
> not
> > >removed the rotor/drum part to see for myself inside the drum).
> > >
> > >The rear pads had 3/16 in material left. What is the minimum lining
> > >thickness recommended for rear wheels on this vehicule? I know in
> general
> > >rear wheels allow smaller thickness than front wheels. I also use the
> > >following rule of thumb: if all 4 wheels brakes are in good operating
> > >condition, rear pads/shoes should last twice as long as the front ones.
> >
> > That's not what I've found with Honda rear disk brakes on their smaller
> > lighter cars - the rear pads wear out at ~40K miles and the fronts at
~70K
> > miles with moderate brake usage. Honda usually specs 1.6mm (.06") as
the
> > wear limit for pad lining, so you may have a little while to go but you
> > have to be careful since often, the inner pad wears more quickly than
the
> > outer and is more difficult to see.
> >
> > >How does the parking cable brake system auto-adjust, if it has any
> > >auto-adjusting system at all?
> >
> > There's a diagram at the above Website and it shows what looks like a
> > manual adjuster for the rear shoes - I guess they're not going to wear
> much
> > if they are only used for parking.
> >
> > Rgds, George Macdonald
> >
> > "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who,
> me??
>
>