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Ike 09-23-2006 05:18 PM

Oil condition sensing on new Hondas
 
My daughter's new FIT seems to "sense" oil condition, rather than depend
on miles driven. That's clever, if it's true. Is it?

John Horner 09-23-2006 08:29 PM

Re: Oil condition sensing on new Hondas
 
Ike wrote:
> My daughter's new FIT seems to "sense" oil condition, rather than depend
> on miles driven. That's clever, if it's true. Is it?


The oil condition is not sensed directly. The engine computer monitors
total revolutions, temperatures and other factors to arrive at an aging
curve for the oil. It is much more sophisticated then the old xxx
miles/yyy months way of doing things.

GM of all companies has been a leader in this kind of technology, but
many of the Germans and now Honda are also taking up this methodology.

Assuming that Honda's engineers did their homework correctly it should
work out well. If you want a little extra safety factor you could do
the oil change early, say at 20-30% of indicated oil life remaining
instead of going until the car insists that it is time.

The new way is much improved over the old rules-of-thumb.

John

John Horner 09-23-2006 08:29 PM

Re: Oil condition sensing on new Hondas
 
Ike wrote:
> My daughter's new FIT seems to "sense" oil condition, rather than depend
> on miles driven. That's clever, if it's true. Is it?


The oil condition is not sensed directly. The engine computer monitors
total revolutions, temperatures and other factors to arrive at an aging
curve for the oil. It is much more sophisticated then the old xxx
miles/yyy months way of doing things.

GM of all companies has been a leader in this kind of technology, but
many of the Germans and now Honda are also taking up this methodology.

Assuming that Honda's engineers did their homework correctly it should
work out well. If you want a little extra safety factor you could do
the oil change early, say at 20-30% of indicated oil life remaining
instead of going until the car insists that it is time.

The new way is much improved over the old rules-of-thumb.

John

John Horner 09-23-2006 08:29 PM

Re: Oil condition sensing on new Hondas
 
Ike wrote:
> My daughter's new FIT seems to "sense" oil condition, rather than depend
> on miles driven. That's clever, if it's true. Is it?


The oil condition is not sensed directly. The engine computer monitors
total revolutions, temperatures and other factors to arrive at an aging
curve for the oil. It is much more sophisticated then the old xxx
miles/yyy months way of doing things.

GM of all companies has been a leader in this kind of technology, but
many of the Germans and now Honda are also taking up this methodology.

Assuming that Honda's engineers did their homework correctly it should
work out well. If you want a little extra safety factor you could do
the oil change early, say at 20-30% of indicated oil life remaining
instead of going until the car insists that it is time.

The new way is much improved over the old rules-of-thumb.

John

JXStern 09-24-2006 12:07 AM

Re: Oil condition sensing on new Hondas
 
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 00:29:06 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>The oil condition is not sensed directly. The engine computer monitors
>total revolutions, temperatures and other factors to arrive at an aging
>curve for the oil. It is much more sophisticated then the old xxx
>miles/yyy months way of doing things.
>
>GM of all companies has been a leader in this kind of technology, but
>many of the Germans and now Honda are also taking up this methodology.


haven't aircraft engines been done like this forever?

it occurs to me that hybrid cars might need to do this, too, since the
internal combustion engine might not even be going, for some
significant number of miles / hours.

J.



JXStern 09-24-2006 12:07 AM

Re: Oil condition sensing on new Hondas
 
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 00:29:06 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>The oil condition is not sensed directly. The engine computer monitors
>total revolutions, temperatures and other factors to arrive at an aging
>curve for the oil. It is much more sophisticated then the old xxx
>miles/yyy months way of doing things.
>
>GM of all companies has been a leader in this kind of technology, but
>many of the Germans and now Honda are also taking up this methodology.


haven't aircraft engines been done like this forever?

it occurs to me that hybrid cars might need to do this, too, since the
internal combustion engine might not even be going, for some
significant number of miles / hours.

J.



JXStern 09-24-2006 12:07 AM

Re: Oil condition sensing on new Hondas
 
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 00:29:06 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>The oil condition is not sensed directly. The engine computer monitors
>total revolutions, temperatures and other factors to arrive at an aging
>curve for the oil. It is much more sophisticated then the old xxx
>miles/yyy months way of doing things.
>
>GM of all companies has been a leader in this kind of technology, but
>many of the Germans and now Honda are also taking up this methodology.


haven't aircraft engines been done like this forever?

it occurs to me that hybrid cars might need to do this, too, since the
internal combustion engine might not even be going, for some
significant number of miles / hours.

J.



Dr Nick 09-24-2006 12:48 AM

Re: Oil condition sensing on new Hondas
 

"Ike" <retiring@last.us> wrote in message
news:MwhRg.8380$xg7.2105@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> My daughter's new FIT seems to "sense" oil condition, rather than depend
> on miles driven. That's clever, if it's true. Is it?


basically the new hondas have a thing called the "maintainence minder" which
does calculation based on engine temp and revolutions of the engine to
determine the oil life (pretty much, if you drive hard it wil lower nquick,
if you drive easy it will go down slower) My accord was first changed at
about 5000 miles (the computer said 10% oil life left) I currently have 8000
miles on her and it says I have 40% left.



Dr Nick 09-24-2006 12:48 AM

Re: Oil condition sensing on new Hondas
 

"Ike" <retiring@last.us> wrote in message
news:MwhRg.8380$xg7.2105@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> My daughter's new FIT seems to "sense" oil condition, rather than depend
> on miles driven. That's clever, if it's true. Is it?


basically the new hondas have a thing called the "maintainence minder" which
does calculation based on engine temp and revolutions of the engine to
determine the oil life (pretty much, if you drive hard it wil lower nquick,
if you drive easy it will go down slower) My accord was first changed at
about 5000 miles (the computer said 10% oil life left) I currently have 8000
miles on her and it says I have 40% left.



Dr Nick 09-24-2006 12:48 AM

Re: Oil condition sensing on new Hondas
 

"Ike" <retiring@last.us> wrote in message
news:MwhRg.8380$xg7.2105@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> My daughter's new FIT seems to "sense" oil condition, rather than depend
> on miles driven. That's clever, if it's true. Is it?


basically the new hondas have a thing called the "maintainence minder" which
does calculation based on engine temp and revolutions of the engine to
determine the oil life (pretty much, if you drive hard it wil lower nquick,
if you drive easy it will go down slower) My accord was first changed at
about 5000 miles (the computer said 10% oil life left) I currently have 8000
miles on her and it says I have 40% left.



Batty 09-24-2006 05:44 AM

Re: Oil condition sensing on new Hondas
 

Dr Nick wrote:
> "Ike" <retiring@last.us> wrote in message
> news:MwhRg.8380$xg7.2105@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> > My daughter's new FIT seems to "sense" oil condition, rather than depend
> > on miles driven. That's clever, if it's true. Is it?

>
> basically the new hondas have a thing called the "maintainence minder" which
> does calculation based on engine temp and revolutions of the engine to
> determine the oil life (pretty much, if you drive hard it wil lower nquick,
> if you drive easy it will go down slower) My accord was first changed at
> about 5000 miles (the computer said 10% oil life left) I currently have 8000
> miles on her and it says I have 40% left.


How do you reset the sensor when you change the oil?


Batty 09-24-2006 05:44 AM

Re: Oil condition sensing on new Hondas
 

Dr Nick wrote:
> "Ike" <retiring@last.us> wrote in message
> news:MwhRg.8380$xg7.2105@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> > My daughter's new FIT seems to "sense" oil condition, rather than depend
> > on miles driven. That's clever, if it's true. Is it?

>
> basically the new hondas have a thing called the "maintainence minder" which
> does calculation based on engine temp and revolutions of the engine to
> determine the oil life (pretty much, if you drive hard it wil lower nquick,
> if you drive easy it will go down slower) My accord was first changed at
> about 5000 miles (the computer said 10% oil life left) I currently have 8000
> miles on her and it says I have 40% left.


How do you reset the sensor when you change the oil?


Batty 09-24-2006 05:44 AM

Re: Oil condition sensing on new Hondas
 

Dr Nick wrote:
> "Ike" <retiring@last.us> wrote in message
> news:MwhRg.8380$xg7.2105@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> > My daughter's new FIT seems to "sense" oil condition, rather than depend
> > on miles driven. That's clever, if it's true. Is it?

>
> basically the new hondas have a thing called the "maintainence minder" which
> does calculation based on engine temp and revolutions of the engine to
> determine the oil life (pretty much, if you drive hard it wil lower nquick,
> if you drive easy it will go down slower) My accord was first changed at
> about 5000 miles (the computer said 10% oil life left) I currently have 8000
> miles on her and it says I have 40% left.


How do you reset the sensor when you change the oil?


G-Man 09-24-2006 10:30 AM

Re: Oil condition sensing on new Hondas
 
It's in the manual. I just changed the oil on my sons 2006 EX-V6, and it
was simple, though I don't have the manual handy now.

G-Man


"Batty" <batty54@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159091061.566211.291730@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Dr Nick wrote:
>> "Ike" <retiring@last.us> wrote in message
>> news:MwhRg.8380$xg7.2105@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>> > My daughter's new FIT seems to "sense" oil condition, rather than
>> > depend
>> > on miles driven. That's clever, if it's true. Is it?

>>
>> basically the new hondas have a thing called the "maintainence minder"
>> which
>> does calculation based on engine temp and revolutions of the engine to
>> determine the oil life (pretty much, if you drive hard it wil lower
>> nquick,
>> if you drive easy it will go down slower) My accord was first changed at
>> about 5000 miles (the computer said 10% oil life left) I currently have
>> 8000
>> miles on her and it says I have 40% left.

>
> How do you reset the sensor when you change the oil?
>




G-Man 09-24-2006 10:30 AM

Re: Oil condition sensing on new Hondas
 
It's in the manual. I just changed the oil on my sons 2006 EX-V6, and it
was simple, though I don't have the manual handy now.

G-Man


"Batty" <batty54@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159091061.566211.291730@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Dr Nick wrote:
>> "Ike" <retiring@last.us> wrote in message
>> news:MwhRg.8380$xg7.2105@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>> > My daughter's new FIT seems to "sense" oil condition, rather than
>> > depend
>> > on miles driven. That's clever, if it's true. Is it?

>>
>> basically the new hondas have a thing called the "maintainence minder"
>> which
>> does calculation based on engine temp and revolutions of the engine to
>> determine the oil life (pretty much, if you drive hard it wil lower
>> nquick,
>> if you drive easy it will go down slower) My accord was first changed at
>> about 5000 miles (the computer said 10% oil life left) I currently have
>> 8000
>> miles on her and it says I have 40% left.

>
> How do you reset the sensor when you change the oil?
>





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