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Jonathan Upright 08-07-2005 08:49 PM

Oil Leak
 
My wife has a 1986 Acura Legend. The oil seal around the pan has gone
bad, and it's leaking quite a bit. I have never had this problem with a
car of mine before, so is changing/replacing the gasket around the oil
pan something that a "regular person" can do, or are there special steps
or meticulous procedures that are more suited for a properly trained and
experienced mechanic?

Thanx,

Jonathan

jim beam 08-07-2005 09:32 PM

Re: Oil Leak
 
Jonathan Upright wrote:
> My wife has a 1986 Acura Legend. The oil seal around the pan has gone
> bad, and it's leaking quite a bit. I have never had this problem with a
> car of mine before, so is changing/replacing the gasket around the oil
> pan something that a "regular person" can do, or are there special steps
> or meticulous procedures that are more suited for a properly trained and
> experienced mechanic?
>
> Thanx,
>
> Jonathan


first things first - try tightening the bolts that hold it in place
first. don't over-tighten. also, check it's the pan gasket, not the seal.

if you do need to change, you may need to buy the seals for the exhaust
pipe - may beed to drop it to get the pan off.

also to consider: what oil are you using? when i ran motorcraft, mine
leaked like mad. running castrol, hardly at all.


jim beam 08-07-2005 09:32 PM

Re: Oil Leak
 
Jonathan Upright wrote:
> My wife has a 1986 Acura Legend. The oil seal around the pan has gone
> bad, and it's leaking quite a bit. I have never had this problem with a
> car of mine before, so is changing/replacing the gasket around the oil
> pan something that a "regular person" can do, or are there special steps
> or meticulous procedures that are more suited for a properly trained and
> experienced mechanic?
>
> Thanx,
>
> Jonathan


first things first - try tightening the bolts that hold it in place
first. don't over-tighten. also, check it's the pan gasket, not the seal.

if you do need to change, you may need to buy the seals for the exhaust
pipe - may beed to drop it to get the pan off.

also to consider: what oil are you using? when i ran motorcraft, mine
leaked like mad. running castrol, hardly at all.


Jonathan Upright 08-08-2005 10:22 PM

Re: Oil Leak
 
jim beam wrote:
> Jonathan Upright wrote:
>
>> My wife has a 1986 Acura Legend. The oil seal around the pan has gone
>> bad, and it's leaking quite a bit. I have never had this problem with
>> a car of mine before, so is changing/replacing the gasket around the
>> oil pan something that a "regular person" can do, or are there special
>> steps or meticulous procedures that are more suited for a properly
>> trained and experienced mechanic?
>>
>> Thanx,
>>
>> Jonathan

>
>
> first things first - try tightening the bolts that hold it in place
> first. don't over-tighten. also, check it's the pan gasket, not the seal.
>
> if you do need to change, you may need to buy the seals for the exhaust
> pipe - may beed to drop it to get the pan off.
>
> also to consider: what oil are you using? when i ran motorcraft, mine
> leaked like mad. running castrol, hardly at all.
>


I will also say this: When I was under the car last time, I noticed an
orange caulk-type substance that was lining the perimeter of the oil
pan, but wasn't preventing any leaks whatsoever.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the difference between the gasket and
the seal? In the meantime, I will check the bolts' tightness and get
back to you.

Thanx!

Jonathan

Jonathan Upright 08-08-2005 10:22 PM

Re: Oil Leak
 
jim beam wrote:
> Jonathan Upright wrote:
>
>> My wife has a 1986 Acura Legend. The oil seal around the pan has gone
>> bad, and it's leaking quite a bit. I have never had this problem with
>> a car of mine before, so is changing/replacing the gasket around the
>> oil pan something that a "regular person" can do, or are there special
>> steps or meticulous procedures that are more suited for a properly
>> trained and experienced mechanic?
>>
>> Thanx,
>>
>> Jonathan

>
>
> first things first - try tightening the bolts that hold it in place
> first. don't over-tighten. also, check it's the pan gasket, not the seal.
>
> if you do need to change, you may need to buy the seals for the exhaust
> pipe - may beed to drop it to get the pan off.
>
> also to consider: what oil are you using? when i ran motorcraft, mine
> leaked like mad. running castrol, hardly at all.
>


I will also say this: When I was under the car last time, I noticed an
orange caulk-type substance that was lining the perimeter of the oil
pan, but wasn't preventing any leaks whatsoever.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the difference between the gasket and
the seal? In the meantime, I will check the bolts' tightness and get
back to you.

Thanx!

Jonathan

jim beam 08-08-2005 10:54 PM

Re: Oil Leak
 
Jonathan Upright wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> Jonathan Upright wrote:
>>
>>> My wife has a 1986 Acura Legend. The oil seal around the pan has
>>> gone bad, and it's leaking quite a bit. I have never had this
>>> problem with a car of mine before, so is changing/replacing the
>>> gasket around the oil pan something that a "regular person" can do,
>>> or are there special steps or meticulous procedures that are more
>>> suited for a properly trained and experienced mechanic?
>>>
>>> Thanx,
>>>
>>> Jonathan

>>
>>
>>
>> first things first - try tightening the bolts that hold it in place
>> first. don't over-tighten. also, check it's the pan gasket, not the
>> seal.
>>
>> if you do need to change, you may need to buy the seals for the
>> exhaust pipe - may beed to drop it to get the pan off.
>>
>> also to consider: what oil are you using? when i ran motorcraft, mine
>> leaked like mad. running castrol, hardly at all.
>>

>
> I will also say this: When I was under the car last time, I noticed an
> orange caulk-type substance that was lining the perimeter of the oil
> pan, but wasn't preventing any leaks whatsoever.


that orange stuff indicates that someone's had the oil pan off before -
afaik, it's never used with honda oem assembly. a new pan gasket should
fix it just fine.

>
> Pardon my ignorance, but what is the difference between the gasket and
> the seal?


the seals are the round things on either end of the crankshaft. can't
see them usually, but if they're leaking, oil runs down and tends to
accumulate around either end of the pan. suggest cleaning off the pan
with de-greaser, getting it nice & dry, then watching where the new oil
emerges.

fyi, oils are colored to allow leak identification. automatic
transmission is red, engine is straw.

> In the meantime, I will check the bolts' tightness and get
> back to you.
>
> Thanx!
>
> Jonathan



jim beam 08-08-2005 10:54 PM

Re: Oil Leak
 
Jonathan Upright wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> Jonathan Upright wrote:
>>
>>> My wife has a 1986 Acura Legend. The oil seal around the pan has
>>> gone bad, and it's leaking quite a bit. I have never had this
>>> problem with a car of mine before, so is changing/replacing the
>>> gasket around the oil pan something that a "regular person" can do,
>>> or are there special steps or meticulous procedures that are more
>>> suited for a properly trained and experienced mechanic?
>>>
>>> Thanx,
>>>
>>> Jonathan

>>
>>
>>
>> first things first - try tightening the bolts that hold it in place
>> first. don't over-tighten. also, check it's the pan gasket, not the
>> seal.
>>
>> if you do need to change, you may need to buy the seals for the
>> exhaust pipe - may beed to drop it to get the pan off.
>>
>> also to consider: what oil are you using? when i ran motorcraft, mine
>> leaked like mad. running castrol, hardly at all.
>>

>
> I will also say this: When I was under the car last time, I noticed an
> orange caulk-type substance that was lining the perimeter of the oil
> pan, but wasn't preventing any leaks whatsoever.


that orange stuff indicates that someone's had the oil pan off before -
afaik, it's never used with honda oem assembly. a new pan gasket should
fix it just fine.

>
> Pardon my ignorance, but what is the difference between the gasket and
> the seal?


the seals are the round things on either end of the crankshaft. can't
see them usually, but if they're leaking, oil runs down and tends to
accumulate around either end of the pan. suggest cleaning off the pan
with de-greaser, getting it nice & dry, then watching where the new oil
emerges.

fyi, oils are colored to allow leak identification. automatic
transmission is red, engine is straw.

> In the meantime, I will check the bolts' tightness and get
> back to you.
>
> Thanx!
>
> Jonathan



Jonathan Upright 08-10-2005 07:58 PM

Re: Oil Leak
 
jim beam wrote:
> Jonathan Upright wrote:
>
>> jim beam wrote:
>>
>>> Jonathan Upright wrote:
>>>
>>>> My wife has a 1986 Acura Legend. The oil seal around the pan has
>>>> gone bad, and it's leaking quite a bit. I have never had this
>>>> problem with a car of mine before, so is changing/replacing the
>>>> gasket around the oil pan something that a "regular person" can do,
>>>> or are there special steps or meticulous procedures that are more
>>>> suited for a properly trained and experienced mechanic?
>>>>
>>>> Thanx,
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> first things first - try tightening the bolts that hold it in place
>>> first. don't over-tighten. also, check it's the pan gasket, not the
>>> seal.
>>>
>>> if you do need to change, you may need to buy the seals for the
>>> exhaust pipe - may beed to drop it to get the pan off.
>>>
>>> also to consider: what oil are you using? when i ran motorcraft,
>>> mine leaked like mad. running castrol, hardly at all.
>>>

>>
>> I will also say this: When I was under the car last time, I noticed
>> an orange caulk-type substance that was lining the perimeter of the
>> oil pan, but wasn't preventing any leaks whatsoever.

>
>
> that orange stuff indicates that someone's had the oil pan off before -
> afaik, it's never used with honda oem assembly. a new pan gasket should
> fix it just fine.
>
>>
>> Pardon my ignorance, but what is the difference between the gasket and
>> the seal?

>
>
> the seals are the round things on either end of the crankshaft. can't
> see them usually, but if they're leaking, oil runs down and tends to
> accumulate around either end of the pan. suggest cleaning off the pan
> with de-greaser, getting it nice & dry, then watching where the new oil
> emerges.
>
> fyi, oils are colored to allow leak identification. automatic
> transmission is red, engine is straw.


Well, this car is a 5-speed manual, so I know it's not transmission
fluid. There is a drop of oil "clinging" to the drain plug of the oil
pan after each run, but it's not leaking there. You can see the
"streaks" from the front side of the pan.

>
>> In the meantime, I will check the bolts' tightness and get back to you.


Which I haven't done yet, but plan to do soon. ;-)

>> Thanx!
>>
>> Jonathan

>
>


Jonathan Upright 08-10-2005 07:58 PM

Re: Oil Leak
 
jim beam wrote:
> Jonathan Upright wrote:
>
>> jim beam wrote:
>>
>>> Jonathan Upright wrote:
>>>
>>>> My wife has a 1986 Acura Legend. The oil seal around the pan has
>>>> gone bad, and it's leaking quite a bit. I have never had this
>>>> problem with a car of mine before, so is changing/replacing the
>>>> gasket around the oil pan something that a "regular person" can do,
>>>> or are there special steps or meticulous procedures that are more
>>>> suited for a properly trained and experienced mechanic?
>>>>
>>>> Thanx,
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> first things first - try tightening the bolts that hold it in place
>>> first. don't over-tighten. also, check it's the pan gasket, not the
>>> seal.
>>>
>>> if you do need to change, you may need to buy the seals for the
>>> exhaust pipe - may beed to drop it to get the pan off.
>>>
>>> also to consider: what oil are you using? when i ran motorcraft,
>>> mine leaked like mad. running castrol, hardly at all.
>>>

>>
>> I will also say this: When I was under the car last time, I noticed
>> an orange caulk-type substance that was lining the perimeter of the
>> oil pan, but wasn't preventing any leaks whatsoever.

>
>
> that orange stuff indicates that someone's had the oil pan off before -
> afaik, it's never used with honda oem assembly. a new pan gasket should
> fix it just fine.
>
>>
>> Pardon my ignorance, but what is the difference between the gasket and
>> the seal?

>
>
> the seals are the round things on either end of the crankshaft. can't
> see them usually, but if they're leaking, oil runs down and tends to
> accumulate around either end of the pan. suggest cleaning off the pan
> with de-greaser, getting it nice & dry, then watching where the new oil
> emerges.
>
> fyi, oils are colored to allow leak identification. automatic
> transmission is red, engine is straw.


Well, this car is a 5-speed manual, so I know it's not transmission
fluid. There is a drop of oil "clinging" to the drain plug of the oil
pan after each run, but it's not leaking there. You can see the
"streaks" from the front side of the pan.

>
>> In the meantime, I will check the bolts' tightness and get back to you.


Which I haven't done yet, but plan to do soon. ;-)

>> Thanx!
>>
>> Jonathan

>
>



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