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John Horner 07-05-2005 04:10 PM

Re: Old Odyssey vs. new - old drives better
 
Just Google on "odyssey transmission defect" and you will find more to
read than you can ever hope to look at.




GRL wrote:
> Please elaborate. I had not heard of this problem.
>
>
> "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:qciye.1441$Gv3.205@trnddc02...
>
>>Personally I wouldn't buy the old or the new with the rate of expensive
>>transmission failures being reported on the Odysseys, Pilots, etc. It
>>seems like Honda didn't engineer a transmission strong enough for the
>>weight and power of it's bigger vehicles.
>>
>>John
>>

>
>
>


John Horner 07-05-2005 04:10 PM

Re: Old Odyssey vs. new - old drives better
 
Just Google on "odyssey transmission defect" and you will find more to
read than you can ever hope to look at.




GRL wrote:
> Please elaborate. I had not heard of this problem.
>
>
> "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:qciye.1441$Gv3.205@trnddc02...
>
>>Personally I wouldn't buy the old or the new with the rate of expensive
>>transmission failures being reported on the Odysseys, Pilots, etc. It
>>seems like Honda didn't engineer a transmission strong enough for the
>>weight and power of it's bigger vehicles.
>>
>>John
>>

>
>
>


greg_in_CA 07-30-2005 01:04 AM

Re: Old Odyssey vs. new - old drives better
 
Have the 2002 Odyssey, it handles well. Even better since replacing the
original tires with
new Michelin's, never liked the original tires it came with. Thank goodness
they finally wore out!

Like the hard edge styling of the 2002 over the wet bar of soap Chrysler
look-a-like the designer's
gave us this go round. Real hard to tell it in profile at speed from a Town
and Country, why did
they do that! The chrome bezel around the window is true Detroit.

Was hoping to turn in the 2002 in another year for a new one. Now might
hang on to it until the
next style change, in what five years? Will test drive the new Odyssey at
my next service.
Will evaluate it then.

Just an fyi, the transmission did go south at 37k, this van has been driven
with kid gloves.
Never abused and maintained per the book. Honda did replace it no questions
asked. Was ready
with a ton of news group print outs if they said it was my doing. I was
pleasantly surprised when
the best service writer I ever met called me 30 minutes after it was dropped
and told me
the trans would be replaced at no charge. No if's and's or butt's, we will
call you later and tell you
when it will be ready, WOW! Most service writers act like they have
"never" heard
of any problem that an owner is complaining about. They picked up the
rental tab, and he stressed I would
not have to use my extended warrantee for the replacement. Very business
like, really appreciate that.

I do believe the transmission is under designed for the vehicle weight. All
the manufactures seem to think
or try to take the off the shelf power trains they have and put them in a
van. They all get the same result, had two
Ford Windstars before the Odyssey, first Windstar lost the transmission
before 30k. Just about every Chrysler
van owner I know has replaced a transmission or two. Has to hurt the bottom
line at some point, but then
they do not all fail and I guess that is the bean counters point.
Interesting concept.

Greg in California


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greg_in_CA 07-30-2005 01:04 AM

Re: Old Odyssey vs. new - old drives better
 
Have the 2002 Odyssey, it handles well. Even better since replacing the
original tires with
new Michelin's, never liked the original tires it came with. Thank goodness
they finally wore out!

Like the hard edge styling of the 2002 over the wet bar of soap Chrysler
look-a-like the designer's
gave us this go round. Real hard to tell it in profile at speed from a Town
and Country, why did
they do that! The chrome bezel around the window is true Detroit.

Was hoping to turn in the 2002 in another year for a new one. Now might
hang on to it until the
next style change, in what five years? Will test drive the new Odyssey at
my next service.
Will evaluate it then.

Just an fyi, the transmission did go south at 37k, this van has been driven
with kid gloves.
Never abused and maintained per the book. Honda did replace it no questions
asked. Was ready
with a ton of news group print outs if they said it was my doing. I was
pleasantly surprised when
the best service writer I ever met called me 30 minutes after it was dropped
and told me
the trans would be replaced at no charge. No if's and's or butt's, we will
call you later and tell you
when it will be ready, WOW! Most service writers act like they have
"never" heard
of any problem that an owner is complaining about. They picked up the
rental tab, and he stressed I would
not have to use my extended warrantee for the replacement. Very business
like, really appreciate that.

I do believe the transmission is under designed for the vehicle weight. All
the manufactures seem to think
or try to take the off the shelf power trains they have and put them in a
van. They all get the same result, had two
Ford Windstars before the Odyssey, first Windstar lost the transmission
before 30k. Just about every Chrysler
van owner I know has replaced a transmission or two. Has to hurt the bottom
line at some point, but then
they do not all fail and I guess that is the bean counters point.
Interesting concept.

Greg in California


"




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