Re: One of those days...
Thanks for the response, Mike. I'm not inclined to think it's the
battery. It holds a charge and cranks the way it always has. Any other thoughts? Michael Pardee wrote: > "ritpg" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1165374977.558717.250910@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com... > > Left my lights on my '05 Element today and when I got out of work, of > > course, the battery was dead. The lights were not on that long. I was > > surprised the battery died that quickly. This happened one time > > before. We were tailgating for a couple of hours with the radio on and > > the back hatch open. Dead battery that time too. Today the battery > > died to the extent that I got the enter code alert on the radio after > > jump starting the car. I entered the code easily enough but now I get > > no sound. The radio display indicates that the radio is operating: I > > can switch from AM to FM to XM, etc. Turning the volume knob gives me > > the usual display indication that the volume is increasing but I get no > > sound at all. Does anyone know what the problem is and how I would fix > > it? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Sure sounds like a bad battery, with a possibility it isn't being charged > right. Depending on your climate, the battery either died young or not. If > you are in Arizona two years is about the best you can hope for from an > under-the-hood battery. If you are in Wisconsin that's pretty bad. > > Mike |
Re: One of those days...
Thanks for the response, Mike. I'm not inclined to think it's the
battery. It holds a charge and cranks the way it always has. Any other thoughts? Michael Pardee wrote: > "ritpg" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1165374977.558717.250910@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com... > > Left my lights on my '05 Element today and when I got out of work, of > > course, the battery was dead. The lights were not on that long. I was > > surprised the battery died that quickly. This happened one time > > before. We were tailgating for a couple of hours with the radio on and > > the back hatch open. Dead battery that time too. Today the battery > > died to the extent that I got the enter code alert on the radio after > > jump starting the car. I entered the code easily enough but now I get > > no sound. The radio display indicates that the radio is operating: I > > can switch from AM to FM to XM, etc. Turning the volume knob gives me > > the usual display indication that the volume is increasing but I get no > > sound at all. Does anyone know what the problem is and how I would fix > > it? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Sure sounds like a bad battery, with a possibility it isn't being charged > right. Depending on your climate, the battery either died young or not. If > you are in Arizona two years is about the best you can hope for from an > under-the-hood battery. If you are in Wisconsin that's pretty bad. > > Mike |
Re: One of those days...
On 5 Dec 2006 19:16:18 -0800, "ritpg" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
>can switch from AM to FM to XM, etc. Turning the volume knob gives me >the usual display indication that the volume is increasing but I get no >sound at all. Does anyone know what the problem is and how I would fix >it? I do not know. It does not sound like a battery problem. Is there an external amplifier somewhere (you mentioned a sub woofer)? The external amp may need to be reset. Some radios can direct output directly to the external amp, by passing the radio's internal amp. If so, maybe there is an in-line fuse somewhere in the power supply for that amp. If it is aftermarket amp, then the fuse might not be in the fuse block. Is there a mute button on the radio somewhere? I have never heard of such a thing, but who knows. I know some radios are sensitive to noise and crank up the volume as noise increases. Maybe some system like that has muted the radio. An owners manual would help you there. My much older Honda radio has several little buttons that are easy to press accidentally. Elliot Richmond Itinerant astronomy teacher |
Re: One of those days...
On 5 Dec 2006 19:16:18 -0800, "ritpg" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
>can switch from AM to FM to XM, etc. Turning the volume knob gives me >the usual display indication that the volume is increasing but I get no >sound at all. Does anyone know what the problem is and how I would fix >it? I do not know. It does not sound like a battery problem. Is there an external amplifier somewhere (you mentioned a sub woofer)? The external amp may need to be reset. Some radios can direct output directly to the external amp, by passing the radio's internal amp. If so, maybe there is an in-line fuse somewhere in the power supply for that amp. If it is aftermarket amp, then the fuse might not be in the fuse block. Is there a mute button on the radio somewhere? I have never heard of such a thing, but who knows. I know some radios are sensitive to noise and crank up the volume as noise increases. Maybe some system like that has muted the radio. An owners manual would help you there. My much older Honda radio has several little buttons that are easy to press accidentally. Elliot Richmond Itinerant astronomy teacher |
Re: One of those days...
On 5 Dec 2006 19:16:18 -0800, "ritpg" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
>can switch from AM to FM to XM, etc. Turning the volume knob gives me >the usual display indication that the volume is increasing but I get no >sound at all. Does anyone know what the problem is and how I would fix >it? I do not know. It does not sound like a battery problem. Is there an external amplifier somewhere (you mentioned a sub woofer)? The external amp may need to be reset. Some radios can direct output directly to the external amp, by passing the radio's internal amp. If so, maybe there is an in-line fuse somewhere in the power supply for that amp. If it is aftermarket amp, then the fuse might not be in the fuse block. Is there a mute button on the radio somewhere? I have never heard of such a thing, but who knows. I know some radios are sensitive to noise and crank up the volume as noise increases. Maybe some system like that has muted the radio. An owners manual would help you there. My much older Honda radio has several little buttons that are easy to press accidentally. Elliot Richmond Itinerant astronomy teacher |
Re: One of those days...
On 5 Dec 2006 19:16:18 -0800, "ritpg" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
>can switch from AM to FM to XM, etc. Turning the volume knob gives me >the usual display indication that the volume is increasing but I get no >sound at all. Does anyone know what the problem is and how I would fix >it? I do not know. It does not sound like a battery problem. Is there an external amplifier somewhere (you mentioned a sub woofer)? The external amp may need to be reset. Some radios can direct output directly to the external amp, by passing the radio's internal amp. If so, maybe there is an in-line fuse somewhere in the power supply for that amp. If it is aftermarket amp, then the fuse might not be in the fuse block. Is there a mute button on the radio somewhere? I have never heard of such a thing, but who knows. I know some radios are sensitive to noise and crank up the volume as noise increases. Maybe some system like that has muted the radio. An owners manual would help you there. My much older Honda radio has several little buttons that are easy to press accidentally. Elliot Richmond Itinerant astronomy teacher |
Re: One of those days...
ritpg wrote:
> Thanks so much for the quick response. I'm pretty sure the battery is > "working as designed" (it's definitely holding a charge and cranking > the same as it always has). I disconnected the battery for a couple of > minutes, reconnected it, entered the "code" and still have the same > problem. The only thing that is not working is the sound on the radio. > Do you have any other suggestions? Because this radio has a > subwoofer, I suspect it has circuitry independent of the radio. I > opened the fuse box on the driver's side of the engine compartment and > didn't see a single fuse relating to the radio or sound system. Are > those fuses somewhere else? > > The battery never did sound like it had a lot of cranking power from > the day I drove it off the lot. It's a low priced vehicle, probably > with a low priced battery. > > Thanks, again. > ========================================= Sounds like the radio was turned ON when the vehicle was boosted. If somebody got the booster cables backwards for even a split-second, the radio may be wrecked. There are TWO fuses that power the radio, have you checked them both? 'Curly' |
Re: One of those days...
ritpg wrote:
> Thanks so much for the quick response. I'm pretty sure the battery is > "working as designed" (it's definitely holding a charge and cranking > the same as it always has). I disconnected the battery for a couple of > minutes, reconnected it, entered the "code" and still have the same > problem. The only thing that is not working is the sound on the radio. > Do you have any other suggestions? Because this radio has a > subwoofer, I suspect it has circuitry independent of the radio. I > opened the fuse box on the driver's side of the engine compartment and > didn't see a single fuse relating to the radio or sound system. Are > those fuses somewhere else? > > The battery never did sound like it had a lot of cranking power from > the day I drove it off the lot. It's a low priced vehicle, probably > with a low priced battery. > > Thanks, again. > ========================================= Sounds like the radio was turned ON when the vehicle was boosted. If somebody got the booster cables backwards for even a split-second, the radio may be wrecked. There are TWO fuses that power the radio, have you checked them both? 'Curly' |
Re: One of those days...
ritpg wrote:
> Thanks so much for the quick response. I'm pretty sure the battery is > "working as designed" (it's definitely holding a charge and cranking > the same as it always has). I disconnected the battery for a couple of > minutes, reconnected it, entered the "code" and still have the same > problem. The only thing that is not working is the sound on the radio. > Do you have any other suggestions? Because this radio has a > subwoofer, I suspect it has circuitry independent of the radio. I > opened the fuse box on the driver's side of the engine compartment and > didn't see a single fuse relating to the radio or sound system. Are > those fuses somewhere else? > > The battery never did sound like it had a lot of cranking power from > the day I drove it off the lot. It's a low priced vehicle, probably > with a low priced battery. > > Thanks, again. > ========================================= Sounds like the radio was turned ON when the vehicle was boosted. If somebody got the booster cables backwards for even a split-second, the radio may be wrecked. There are TWO fuses that power the radio, have you checked them both? 'Curly' |
Re: One of those days...
ritpg wrote:
> Thanks so much for the quick response. I'm pretty sure the battery is > "working as designed" (it's definitely holding a charge and cranking > the same as it always has). I disconnected the battery for a couple of > minutes, reconnected it, entered the "code" and still have the same > problem. The only thing that is not working is the sound on the radio. > Do you have any other suggestions? Because this radio has a > subwoofer, I suspect it has circuitry independent of the radio. I > opened the fuse box on the driver's side of the engine compartment and > didn't see a single fuse relating to the radio or sound system. Are > those fuses somewhere else? > > The battery never did sound like it had a lot of cranking power from > the day I drove it off the lot. It's a low priced vehicle, probably > with a low priced battery. > > Thanks, again. > ========================================= Sounds like the radio was turned ON when the vehicle was boosted. If somebody got the booster cables backwards for even a split-second, the radio may be wrecked. There are TWO fuses that power the radio, have you checked them both? 'Curly' |
Re: One of those days...
motsco_ wrote: > ritpg wrote: > > Thanks so much for the quick response. I'm pretty sure the battery is > > "working as designed" (it's definitely holding a charge and cranking > > the same as it always has). I disconnected the battery for a couple of > > minutes, reconnected it, entered the "code" and still have the same > > problem. The only thing that is not working is the sound on the radio. > > Do you have any other suggestions? Because this radio has a > > subwoofer, I suspect it has circuitry independent of the radio. I > > opened the fuse box on the driver's side of the engine compartment and > > didn't see a single fuse relating to the radio or sound system. Are > > those fuses somewhere else? > > > > The battery never did sound like it had a lot of cranking power from > > the day I drove it off the lot. It's a low priced vehicle, probably > > with a low priced battery. > > > > Thanks, again. > > > ========================================= > > Sounds like the radio was turned ON when the vehicle was boosted. If > somebody got the booster cables backwards for even a split-second, the > radio may be wrecked. There are TWO fuses that power the radio, have you > checked them both? > > 'Curly' Curly, you may have something. I believe the cable did get crossed for an instant during the boost. I have not checked the radio fuses because I can't find them; they don't seem to be in the fuse box in the engine compartment. Remember the display on the radio indicates that it is working. I can see channels and when I turn the volume knob, I see the volume incrementing. When you say "wrecked", what do you mean? |
Re: One of those days...
motsco_ wrote: > ritpg wrote: > > Thanks so much for the quick response. I'm pretty sure the battery is > > "working as designed" (it's definitely holding a charge and cranking > > the same as it always has). I disconnected the battery for a couple of > > minutes, reconnected it, entered the "code" and still have the same > > problem. The only thing that is not working is the sound on the radio. > > Do you have any other suggestions? Because this radio has a > > subwoofer, I suspect it has circuitry independent of the radio. I > > opened the fuse box on the driver's side of the engine compartment and > > didn't see a single fuse relating to the radio or sound system. Are > > those fuses somewhere else? > > > > The battery never did sound like it had a lot of cranking power from > > the day I drove it off the lot. It's a low priced vehicle, probably > > with a low priced battery. > > > > Thanks, again. > > > ========================================= > > Sounds like the radio was turned ON when the vehicle was boosted. If > somebody got the booster cables backwards for even a split-second, the > radio may be wrecked. There are TWO fuses that power the radio, have you > checked them both? > > 'Curly' Curly, you may have something. I believe the cable did get crossed for an instant during the boost. I have not checked the radio fuses because I can't find them; they don't seem to be in the fuse box in the engine compartment. Remember the display on the radio indicates that it is working. I can see channels and when I turn the volume knob, I see the volume incrementing. When you say "wrecked", what do you mean? |
Re: One of those days...
motsco_ wrote: > ritpg wrote: > > Thanks so much for the quick response. I'm pretty sure the battery is > > "working as designed" (it's definitely holding a charge and cranking > > the same as it always has). I disconnected the battery for a couple of > > minutes, reconnected it, entered the "code" and still have the same > > problem. The only thing that is not working is the sound on the radio. > > Do you have any other suggestions? Because this radio has a > > subwoofer, I suspect it has circuitry independent of the radio. I > > opened the fuse box on the driver's side of the engine compartment and > > didn't see a single fuse relating to the radio or sound system. Are > > those fuses somewhere else? > > > > The battery never did sound like it had a lot of cranking power from > > the day I drove it off the lot. It's a low priced vehicle, probably > > with a low priced battery. > > > > Thanks, again. > > > ========================================= > > Sounds like the radio was turned ON when the vehicle was boosted. If > somebody got the booster cables backwards for even a split-second, the > radio may be wrecked. There are TWO fuses that power the radio, have you > checked them both? > > 'Curly' Curly, you may have something. I believe the cable did get crossed for an instant during the boost. I have not checked the radio fuses because I can't find them; they don't seem to be in the fuse box in the engine compartment. Remember the display on the radio indicates that it is working. I can see channels and when I turn the volume knob, I see the volume incrementing. When you say "wrecked", what do you mean? |
Re: One of those days...
motsco_ wrote: > ritpg wrote: > > Thanks so much for the quick response. I'm pretty sure the battery is > > "working as designed" (it's definitely holding a charge and cranking > > the same as it always has). I disconnected the battery for a couple of > > minutes, reconnected it, entered the "code" and still have the same > > problem. The only thing that is not working is the sound on the radio. > > Do you have any other suggestions? Because this radio has a > > subwoofer, I suspect it has circuitry independent of the radio. I > > opened the fuse box on the driver's side of the engine compartment and > > didn't see a single fuse relating to the radio or sound system. Are > > those fuses somewhere else? > > > > The battery never did sound like it had a lot of cranking power from > > the day I drove it off the lot. It's a low priced vehicle, probably > > with a low priced battery. > > > > Thanks, again. > > > ========================================= > > Sounds like the radio was turned ON when the vehicle was boosted. If > somebody got the booster cables backwards for even a split-second, the > radio may be wrecked. There are TWO fuses that power the radio, have you > checked them both? > > 'Curly' Curly, you may have something. I believe the cable did get crossed for an instant during the boost. I have not checked the radio fuses because I can't find them; they don't seem to be in the fuse box in the engine compartment. Remember the display on the radio indicates that it is working. I can see channels and when I turn the volume knob, I see the volume incrementing. When you say "wrecked", what do you mean? |
Re: One of those days...
Problem solved. Once I read the owner's manual and found out where the
2nd fuse box was, it was simple. The fuse labeled AMP (20 amps) had blown apparently when the +/- wires touched briefly when I was connecting the jumper cable. I've also reprogrammed the window lift on the driver's side. So everything is back to normal. Thanks to all of you who responded. ritpg wrote: > Left my lights on my '05 Element today and when I got out of work, of > course, the battery was dead. The lights were not on that long. I was > surprised the battery died that quickly. This happened one time > before. We were tailgating for a couple of hours with the radio on and > the back hatch open. Dead battery that time too. Today the battery > died to the extent that I got the enter code alert on the radio after > jump starting the car. I entered the code easily enough but now I get > no sound. The radio display indicates that the radio is operating: I > can switch from AM to FM to XM, etc. Turning the volume knob gives me > the usual display indication that the volume is increasing but I get no > sound at all. Does anyone know what the problem is and how I would fix > it? > > Thanks. |
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