Re: Overheating 91 Accord LX
 

On Mar 3, 2:29 pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
wrote:
> d...@charter.net wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > I have an overheating condition with my Accord that I've been working
> > with for about a month now.
>
> > So far my parts list consists of:
> > 1)Thermostat and hoses
> > 2)Radiator
> > 3)Temperature switch A ( Water outlet housing )
> > 4)Gauge temperature sender
> > 5)Timing belt and water pump (1 year ago as of Feb 22 from the
> > dealership)
>
> > Around town car is fine (temp gauge reads around halfway mark),
> > Thermostat opens as I can feel the top hose is hot. On highway gauge
> > climbs to around the 3/4 mark about 1/4 away from hot. Turn heater on
> > to bleed off excess heat and everything settles down until temp goes
> > back up.
> > I have done a meat thermometer test with the cap off, and the temp
> > goes up to 195 and levels off, with the gauge showing about halfway. I
> > turned the A/C on and the fans do not automatically turn on, they wait
> > about a minute or two before coming on. After parking the car and
> > turning it off, the fan comes on about 3 minutes after the car is
> > parked at normal operating temperature. I am not losing any coolant,
> > and nothing is mixing with the oil. I don't have any smoke other than
> > normal cold morning exhaust. I'm going to have the compression checked
> > just in case, but this really doesn't seem to be a head gasket or head
> > issue.
>
> > Anybody have any ideas?
>
> How old is the radiator? You are stating the classic conditions for a
> plugged up unit...
>
> JT

Turns out it was a brand new junk thermostat from Advance auto parts.
Installed correctly and everything. We used a buddy of mine's IR temp
gauge and noticed that the temp was 195 on the engine side of the
thermostat, and 120 on the hose side. BINGO!!! no coolant flow.
Thanks for the input.

Re: Overheating 91 Accord LX
 

dannd@charter.net wrote in news:1172966925.365404.103140
@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:


> Turns out it was a brand new junk thermostat from Advance auto parts.
> Installed correctly and everything. We used a buddy of mine's IR temp
> gauge and noticed that the temp was 195 on the engine side of the
> thermostat, and 120 on the hose side. BINGO!!! no coolant flow.
> Thanks for the input.
>



Ah, the joys of aftermarket parts!

Hope you learned a lesson here.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Overheating 91 Accord LX
 

Tegger wrote:

> dannd@charter.net wrote in news:1172966925.365404.103140
> @c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>>Turns out it was a brand new junk thermostat from Advance auto parts.
>>Installed correctly and everything. We used a buddy of mine's IR temp
>>gauge and noticed that the temp was 195 on the engine side of the
>>thermostat, and 120 on the hose side. BINGO!!! no coolant flow.
>>Thanks for the input.
>>
>
>
>
>
> Ah, the joys of aftermarket parts!
>
> Hope you learned a lesson here.
>
>

Though I have not had any overheating problems, I am going to get a
couple of OEM thermostats for the next incursion into the cooling
system. I'm convinced!

JT

Re: Overheating 91 Accord LX
 

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
news:51qGh.96032$5j1.53765@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> Though I have not had any overheating problems, I am going to get a couple
> of OEM thermostats for the next incursion into the cooling system. I'm
> convinced!
>
> JT
>

I learned my lesson with my old Volvos, the first cars I had in a while that
had temperature guages. Aftermarket thermostats, mostly Stants, were all
over the place. Some were too hot, most too cold, and nearly all of them
wandered up and down the temperature scale at will. The first time I used a
genuine OEM thermostat it was like magic.

Mike

Re: Overheating 91 Accord LX
 

On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 11:35:00 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

>"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>news:51qGh.96032$5j1.53765@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>
>> Though I have not had any overheating problems, I am going to get a couple
>> of OEM thermostats for the next incursion into the cooling system. I'm
>> convinced!
>>
>> JT
>>
>
>I learned my lesson with my old Volvos, the first cars I had in a while that
>had temperature guages. Aftermarket thermostats, mostly Stants, were all
>over the place. Some were too hot, most too cold, and nearly all of them
>wandered up and down the temperature scale at will. The first time I used a
>genuine OEM thermostat it was like magic.
>
>Mike
>

I don't get it. If it's so well known that aftermarket thermostats are
crap (I had the same problem once, replaced the thermostat and the
problem remained), isn't it time that they got sued? Car manufacturers
with bad parts have to do recalls.

Re: Overheating 91 Accord LX
 

dgk wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 11:35:00 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
> <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:
>
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>> news:51qGh.96032$5j1.53765@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> Though I have not had any overheating problems, I am going to get a couple
>>> of OEM thermostats for the next incursion into the cooling system. I'm
>>> convinced!
>>>
>>> JT
>>>
>> I learned my lesson with my old Volvos, the first cars I had in a while that
>> had temperature guages. Aftermarket thermostats, mostly Stants, were all
>> over the place. Some were too hot, most too cold, and nearly all of them
>> wandered up and down the temperature scale at will. The first time I used a
>> genuine OEM thermostat it was like magic.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
> I don't get it. If it's so well known that aftermarket thermostats are
> crap (I had the same problem once, replaced the thermostat and the
> problem remained), isn't it time that they got sued? Car manufacturers
> with bad parts have to do recalls.

good question.

i think 3 reasons:

1. they're domestic, and we don't sue domestics because we're patriotic
and we'll buy garbage just to fly the flag. look at all the crap people
buy from detroit. [except that now, a lot of the componentry comes from
china, but shhh, don't tell anyone...]
2. they probably don't have any money so there's be no lawyer fees.
3. it's "guaranteed". want a free replacement?

personally, i'd be much more interested in a lawsuit about red rear turn
signals - the most bizarrely dangerous anachronism on the road.

Re: Overheating 91 Accord LX
 

jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:65WdnZlz-tNE6HDYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@speakeasy.net:



>
> personally, i'd be much more interested in a lawsuit about red rear
> turn signals - the most bizarrely dangerous anachronism on the road.

Especially today with the availability of yellow LED lights.
also,IMO,the red LED brake lights are more noticable than incandescent
lamps behind red lenses.

And they won't burn out like filament bulbs.
Since LEDs are clustered,if one burns out,there's still many left.
(and if manufacturers burn-in their LED assemblies,they would have few
failures at all.)

I've been considering modifying my Integra's taillights to LEDs.
Yellow for turnsignals!!

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net