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gregro 07-01-2005 10:37 PM

Pilot transmission dead after 105K
 
the dealership says the transmission needs to be replaced/rebuilt on
my 2003 Pilot. there’s 105,000 miles on the car- does it seem out of
line that the tranny should die at that age? i know that’s a lot of
miles to put on a car in three years but it seems premature to me.
would like some feedback on if this- what do you think?
car was serviced regularly at the dealership [Miller in southern Ca.)
and has given me no trouble otherwise.
thanks for you thoughts,
Greg

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John Horner 07-02-2005 01:12 AM

Re: Pilot transmission dead after 105K
 
gregro wrote:
> the dealership says the transmission needs to be replaced/rebuilt on
> my 2003 Pilot. there’s 105,000 miles on the car- does it seem out of
> line that the tranny should die at that age? i know that’s a lot of
> miles to put on a car in three years but it seems premature to me.
> would like some feedback on if this- what do you think?
> car was serviced regularly at the dealership [Miller in southern Ca.)
> and has given me no trouble otherwise.
> thanks for you thoughts,
> Greg
>


Honda has had A LOT of problems with their automatic transmissions in
recent years.

Also, Honda's recommended service intervals for transmission fluid are
IMO far too long between fluid changes, especially since the
transmission does not include a changeable filter.

The automatic transmission is a major weak spot in modern Hondas. Your
experience is typical, though not acceptable.

John


John Horner 07-02-2005 01:12 AM

Re: Pilot transmission dead after 105K
 
gregro wrote:
> the dealership says the transmission needs to be replaced/rebuilt on
> my 2003 Pilot. there’s 105,000 miles on the car- does it seem out of
> line that the tranny should die at that age? i know that’s a lot of
> miles to put on a car in three years but it seems premature to me.
> would like some feedback on if this- what do you think?
> car was serviced regularly at the dealership [Miller in southern Ca.)
> and has given me no trouble otherwise.
> thanks for you thoughts,
> Greg
>


Honda has had A LOT of problems with their automatic transmissions in
recent years.

Also, Honda's recommended service intervals for transmission fluid are
IMO far too long between fluid changes, especially since the
transmission does not include a changeable filter.

The automatic transmission is a major weak spot in modern Hondas. Your
experience is typical, though not acceptable.

John


Elmo P. Shagnasty 07-02-2005 08:50 AM

Re: Pilot transmission dead after 105K
 
In article <1_619003_9f6db3881b278d083eaa81d7cd6f0470@autofor umz.com>,
gregro <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote:

> the dealership says the transmission needs to be replaced/rebuilt on
> my 2003 Pilot. there’s 105,000 miles on the car- does it seem out of
> line that the tranny should die at that age? i know that’s a lot of
> miles to put on a car in three years but it seems premature to me.
> would like some feedback on if this- what do you think?
> car was serviced regularly at the dealership [Miller in southern Ca.)
> and has given me no trouble otherwise.
> thanks for you thoughts,


Given the problems that Honda has had with 98-04 transmissions, I would
severely question Honda about this.

Did you get the recall performed? What was the condition of your
transmission when they did the recall? Did they replace the
transmission, or simply install the oil jet kit?

I wouldn't let Honda off the hook here. If you have a good dealership,
they'll go to bat with you. You'll probably get Honda to buy the
transmission and you buy the labor. It's a fair deal; if you get to
that, take it.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 07-02-2005 08:50 AM

Re: Pilot transmission dead after 105K
 
In article <1_619003_9f6db3881b278d083eaa81d7cd6f0470@autofor umz.com>,
gregro <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote:

> the dealership says the transmission needs to be replaced/rebuilt on
> my 2003 Pilot. there’s 105,000 miles on the car- does it seem out of
> line that the tranny should die at that age? i know that’s a lot of
> miles to put on a car in three years but it seems premature to me.
> would like some feedback on if this- what do you think?
> car was serviced regularly at the dealership [Miller in southern Ca.)
> and has given me no trouble otherwise.
> thanks for you thoughts,


Given the problems that Honda has had with 98-04 transmissions, I would
severely question Honda about this.

Did you get the recall performed? What was the condition of your
transmission when they did the recall? Did they replace the
transmission, or simply install the oil jet kit?

I wouldn't let Honda off the hook here. If you have a good dealership,
they'll go to bat with you. You'll probably get Honda to buy the
transmission and you buy the labor. It's a fair deal; if you get to
that, take it.


livinincalifornia@gmail.com 07-03-2005 04:34 AM

Re: Pilot transmission dead after 105K
 
damn man you drove that car like 300 miles a day what the hell.


livinincalifornia@gmail.com 07-03-2005 04:34 AM

Re: Pilot transmission dead after 105K
 
damn man you drove that car like 300 miles a day what the hell.


TWW 07-03-2005 07:25 PM

Re: Pilot transmission dead after 105K
 

"gregro" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
news:1_619003_9f6db3881b278d083eaa81d7cd6f0470@aut oforumz.com...
> the dealership says the transmission needs to be replaced/rebuilt on
> my 2003 Pilot. there's 105,000 miles on the car- does it seem out of
> line that the tranny should die at that age? i know that's a lot of
> miles to put on a car in three years but it seems premature to me.
> would like some feedback on if this- what do you think?
> car was serviced regularly at the dealership [Miller in southern Ca.)
> and has given me no trouble otherwise.
> thanks for you thoughts,
> Greg


I had an auto in a Maxima go bad at 37k miles .. so 105k may be reasonable.
On the other hand older Accord 4s seem to go on forever. I should imagine
the replacement cost will around 5k or so.
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TWW 07-03-2005 07:25 PM

Re: Pilot transmission dead after 105K
 

"gregro" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
news:1_619003_9f6db3881b278d083eaa81d7cd6f0470@aut oforumz.com...
> the dealership says the transmission needs to be replaced/rebuilt on
> my 2003 Pilot. there's 105,000 miles on the car- does it seem out of
> line that the tranny should die at that age? i know that's a lot of
> miles to put on a car in three years but it seems premature to me.
> would like some feedback on if this- what do you think?
> car was serviced regularly at the dealership [Miller in southern Ca.)
> and has given me no trouble otherwise.
> thanks for you thoughts,
> Greg


I had an auto in a Maxima go bad at 37k miles .. so 105k may be reasonable.
On the other hand older Accord 4s seem to go on forever. I should imagine
the replacement cost will around 5k or so.
>
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gregro 07-04-2005 03:36 AM

Re: Re: Pilot transmission dead after 105K
 
"" wrote:
> "gregro" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> news:1_619003_9f6db3881b278d083eaa81d7cd6f0470@aut oforumz.com...
> > the dealership says the transmission needs to be

> replaced/rebuilt on
> > my 2003 Pilot. there's 105,000 miles on the car- does it

> seem out of
> > line that the tranny should die at that age? i know that's a

> lot of
> > miles to put on a car in three years but it seems premature

> to me.
> > would like some feedback on if this- what do you think?
> > car was serviced regularly at the dealership [Miller in

> southern Ca.)
> > and has given me no trouble otherwise.
> > thanks for you thoughts,
> > Greg

>
> I had an auto in a Maxima go bad at 37k miles .. so 105k may
> be reasonable.
> On the other hand older Accord 4s seem to go on forever. I
> should imagine
> the replacement cost will around 5k or so.
> >
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it was going to cost $400 to open it up and find out if they could get
away with replacing the pump and clutch plates [$2200] or if they
needed to rebuild the whole thing it was gonna be around $4000. since
i planned on keeping the car only another year or so i decided to get
a new one instead.
thanks everyone for your comments-
Greg

gregro 07-04-2005 03:36 AM

Re: Re: Pilot transmission dead after 105K
 
"" wrote:
> "gregro" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> news:1_619003_9f6db3881b278d083eaa81d7cd6f0470@aut oforumz.com...
> > the dealership says the transmission needs to be

> replaced/rebuilt on
> > my 2003 Pilot. there's 105,000 miles on the car- does it

> seem out of
> > line that the tranny should die at that age? i know that's a

> lot of
> > miles to put on a car in three years but it seems premature

> to me.
> > would like some feedback on if this- what do you think?
> > car was serviced regularly at the dealership [Miller in

> southern Ca.)
> > and has given me no trouble otherwise.
> > thanks for you thoughts,
> > Greg

>
> I had an auto in a Maxima go bad at 37k miles .. so 105k may
> be reasonable.
> On the other hand older Accord 4s seem to go on forever. I
> should imagine
> the replacement cost will around 5k or so.
> >
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> standards
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it was going to cost $400 to open it up and find out if they could get
away with replacing the pump and clutch plates [$2200] or if they
needed to rebuild the whole thing it was gonna be around $4000. since
i planned on keeping the car only another year or so i decided to get
a new one instead.
thanks everyone for your comments-
Greg

TWW 07-04-2005 08:32 PM

Re: Re: Pilot transmission dead after 105K
 

"gregro" <DoNotEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
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> "" wrote:
> > "gregro" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> > news:1_619003_9f6db3881b278d083eaa81d7cd6f0470@aut oforumz.com...
> > > the dealership says the transmission needs to be

> > replaced/rebuilt on
> > > my 2003 Pilot. there's 105,000 miles on the car- does it

> > seem out of
> > > line that the tranny should die at that age? i know that's a

> > lot of
> > > miles to put on a car in three years but it seems premature

> > to me.
> > > would like some feedback on if this- what do you think?
> > > car was serviced regularly at the dealership [Miller in

> > southern Ca.)
> > > and has given me no trouble otherwise.
> > > thanks for you thoughts,
> > > Greg

> >
> > I had an auto in a Maxima go bad at 37k miles .. so 105k may
> > be reasonable.
> > On the other hand older Accord 4s seem to go on forever. I
> > should imagine
> > the replacement cost will around 5k or so.
> > >
> > > --
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request
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> > standards
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>
> it was going to cost $400 to open it up and find out if they could get
> away with replacing the pump and clutch plates [$2200] or if they
> needed to rebuild the whole thing it was gonna be around $4000. since
> i planned on keeping the car only another year or so i decided to get
> a new one instead.
> thanks everyone for your comments-
> Greg

No -- thank you. Now I know we will need to trade my wife's 03 Pilot in
about 60k miles.



TWW 07-04-2005 08:32 PM

Re: Re: Pilot transmission dead after 105K
 

"gregro" <DoNotEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
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> "" wrote:
> > "gregro" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> > news:1_619003_9f6db3881b278d083eaa81d7cd6f0470@aut oforumz.com...
> > > the dealership says the transmission needs to be

> > replaced/rebuilt on
> > > my 2003 Pilot. there's 105,000 miles on the car- does it

> > seem out of
> > > line that the tranny should die at that age? i know that's a

> > lot of
> > > miles to put on a car in three years but it seems premature

> > to me.
> > > would like some feedback on if this- what do you think?
> > > car was serviced regularly at the dealership [Miller in

> > southern Ca.)
> > > and has given me no trouble otherwise.
> > > thanks for you thoughts,
> > > Greg

> >
> > I had an auto in a Maxima go bad at 37k miles .. so 105k may
> > be reasonable.
> > On the other hand older Accord 4s seem to go on forever. I
> > should imagine
> > the replacement cost will around 5k or so.
> > >
> > > --
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request
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> > standards
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> >

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>
> it was going to cost $400 to open it up and find out if they could get
> away with replacing the pump and clutch plates [$2200] or if they
> needed to rebuild the whole thing it was gonna be around $4000. since
> i planned on keeping the car only another year or so i decided to get
> a new one instead.
> thanks everyone for your comments-
> Greg

No -- thank you. Now I know we will need to trade my wife's 03 Pilot in
about 60k miles.



gregro 07-05-2005 05:35 AM

Re: Re: Re: Pilot transmission dead after 105K
 
"" wrote:
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> news:1_620943_25526bd5a116a47acde51ae2bd171f63@aut oforumz.com...
> > "" wrote:
> > > "gregro" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1_619003_9f6db3881b278d083eaa81d7cd6f0470@aut oforumz.com...
> > > > the dealership says the transmission needs to be
> > > replaced/rebuilt on
> > > > my 2003 Pilot. there's 105,000 miles on the car- does

> it
> > > seem out of
> > > > line that the tranny should die at that age? i know

> that's a
> > > lot of
> > > > miles to put on a car in three years but it seems

> premature
> > > to me.
> > > > would like some feedback on if this- what do you think?
> > > > car was serviced regularly at the dealership [Miller in
> > > southern Ca.)
> > > > and has given me no trouble otherwise.
> > > > thanks for you thoughts,
> > > > Greg
> > >
> > > I had an auto in a Maxima go bad at 37k miles .. so 105k

> may
> > > be reasonable.
> > > On the other hand older Accord 4s seem to go on forever.

> I
> > > should imagine
> > > the replacement cost will around 5k or so.
> > > >
> > > > --
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> request
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> >
> > it was going to cost $400 to open it up and find out if they

> could get
> > away with replacing the pump and clutch plates [$2200] or if

> they
> > needed to rebuild the whole thing it was gonna be around

> $4000. since
> > i planned on keeping the car only another year or so i

> decided to get
> > a new one instead.
> > thanks everyone for your comments-
> > Greg

> No -- thank you. Now I know we will need to trade my wife's 03
> Pilot in
> about 60k miles.


glad it helped somebody :lol:
on the bright side- wow, the 05 is nice!
Greg

gregro 07-05-2005 05:35 AM

Re: Re: Re: Pilot transmission dead after 105K
 
"" wrote:
> "gregro" <DoNotEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> news:1_620943_25526bd5a116a47acde51ae2bd171f63@aut oforumz.com...
> > "" wrote:
> > > "gregro" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1_619003_9f6db3881b278d083eaa81d7cd6f0470@aut oforumz.com...
> > > > the dealership says the transmission needs to be
> > > replaced/rebuilt on
> > > > my 2003 Pilot. there's 105,000 miles on the car- does

> it
> > > seem out of
> > > > line that the tranny should die at that age? i know

> that's a
> > > lot of
> > > > miles to put on a car in three years but it seems

> premature
> > > to me.
> > > > would like some feedback on if this- what do you think?
> > > > car was serviced regularly at the dealership [Miller in
> > > southern Ca.)
> > > > and has given me no trouble otherwise.
> > > > thanks for you thoughts,
> > > > Greg
> > >
> > > I had an auto in a Maxima go bad at 37k miles .. so 105k

> may
> > > be reasonable.
> > > On the other hand older Accord 4s seem to go on forever.

> I
> > > should imagine
> > > the replacement cost will around 5k or so.
> > > >
> > > > --
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> request
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> >
> > it was going to cost $400 to open it up and find out if they

> could get
> > away with replacing the pump and clutch plates [$2200] or if

> they
> > needed to rebuild the whole thing it was gonna be around

> $4000. since
> > i planned on keeping the car only another year or so i

> decided to get
> > a new one instead.
> > thanks everyone for your comments-
> > Greg

> No -- thank you. Now I know we will need to trade my wife's 03
> Pilot in
> about 60k miles.


glad it helped somebody :lol:
on the bright side- wow, the 05 is nice!
Greg


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