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BE 10-16-2005 09:43 PM

Pops-A-Dent and the plastic bumper
 
My wife backed our '01 Odyssey into a tree stump adjacent to our driveway.
It left a very deep dimple on the portion of the plastic rear bumper that
lies beneath the tail light area, where the bumper curves up after following
the line of the lower lip of the rear door.

She then (without asking me) went to some web site and ordered a Pops-A-Dent
thingy for $20 (I think) + shipping.

They have not fulfilled the order yet (out of stock). I can still cancel
this order if I want. Does anyone here have any experience with this
product, and will it do any good on this corner area of the plastic bumper?

Thanks!

Be


hondaman 10-17-2005 12:10 AM

Re: Pops-A-Dent and the plastic bumper
 
i think thats meant for metal where the suction cup thing can get a good
grip.


"BE" <n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:BF786BBC.3B31F%n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net.. .
> My wife backed our '01 Odyssey into a tree stump adjacent to our driveway.
> It left a very deep dimple on the portion of the plastic rear bumper that
> lies beneath the tail light area, where the bumper curves up after
> following
> the line of the lower lip of the rear door.
>
> She then (without asking me) went to some web site and ordered a
> Pops-A-Dent
> thingy for $20 (I think) + shipping.
>
> They have not fulfilled the order yet (out of stock). I can still cancel
> this order if I want. Does anyone here have any experience with this
> product, and will it do any good on this corner area of the plastic
> bumper?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Be
>




TeGGeR® 10-17-2005 08:18 AM

Re: Pops-A-Dent and the plastic bumper
 
BE <n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:BF786BBC.3B31F%n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net:

> My wife backed our '01 Odyssey into a tree stump adjacent to our
> driveway. It left a very deep dimple on the portion of the plastic
> rear bumper that lies beneath the tail light area, where the bumper
> curves up after following the line of the lower lip of the rear door.
>
> She then (without asking me) went to some web site and ordered a
> Pops-A-Dent thingy for $20 (I think) + shipping.
>
> They have not fulfilled the order yet (out of stock). I can still
> cancel this order if I want. Does anyone here have any experience with
> this product, and will it do any good on this corner area of the
> plastic bumper?
>




Can't you just reach behind the bumper and push the dent out from the
inside?


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Jim Yanik 10-17-2005 09:48 AM

Re: Pops-A-Dent and the plastic bumper
 
BE <n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:BF786BBC.3B31F%n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net:

> My wife backed our '01 Odyssey into a tree stump adjacent to our
> driveway. It left a very deep dimple on the portion of the plastic
> rear bumper that lies beneath the tail light area, where the bumper
> curves up after following the line of the lower lip of the rear door.
>
> She then (without asking me) went to some web site and ordered a
> Pops-A-Dent thingy for $20 (I think) + shipping.
>
> They have not fulfilled the order yet (out of stock). I can still
> cancel this order if I want. Does anyone here have any experience with
> this product, and will it do any good on this corner area of the
> plastic bumper?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Be
>


Some malls have a "As seen on TV" store that sells the same stuff.
A local TV station product-tested this device,and found it to be only
partially effective;it would not work on some deep dents,especially with
creases.It might even lift the paint on your plastic bumper.
You can probably get behind the bumper cover and push it out and save your
money.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Elle 10-17-2005 09:54 AM

Re: Pops-A-Dent and the plastic bumper
 
For your reference, these devices are commonly available at Pep Boys.

You could save yourself the shipping charge and also maybe go read the
labeling in person.

"BE" <n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net> wrote
> My wife backed our '01 Odyssey into a tree stump adjacent to our driveway.
> It left a very deep dimple on the portion of the plastic rear bumper that
> lies beneath the tail light area, where the bumper curves up after

following
> the line of the lower lip of the rear door.
>
> She then (without asking me) went to some web site and ordered a

Pops-A-Dent
> thingy for $20 (I think) + shipping.
>
> They have not fulfilled the order yet (out of stock). I can still cancel
> this order if I want. Does anyone here have any experience with this
> product, and will it do any good on this corner area of the plastic

bumper?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Be
>




BE 10-17-2005 10:17 AM

Re: Pops-A-Dent and the plastic bumper
 
On 10/17/05 7:18 AM, in article Xns96F25496A1CDAtegger@207.14.113.17,
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

> BE <n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> news:BF786BBC.3B31F%n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net:
>
>> My wife backed our '01 Odyssey into a tree stump adjacent to our
>> driveway. It left a very deep dimple on the portion of the plastic
>> rear bumper that lies beneath the tail light area, where the bumper
>> curves up after following the line of the lower lip of the rear door.
>>
>> She then (without asking me) went to some web site and ordered a
>> Pops-A-Dent thingy for $20 (I think) + shipping.
>>
>> They have not fulfilled the order yet (out of stock). I can still
>> cancel this order if I want. Does anyone here have any experience with
>> this product, and will it do any good on this corner area of the
>> plastic bumper?
>>

>
>
>
> Can't you just reach behind the bumper and push the dent out from the
> inside?
>

No. I got under the car and there is too much structural material in the
way, namely the tailpipe and the bumper bars (that are under the bumper
skin). If the bumper skin itself could be removed easily, that would be the
only way to do it.

Be


BE 10-17-2005 12:51 PM

Re: Pops-A-Dent and the plastic bumper
 
Order cancelled. Thanks for warning me off this!

Be


TeGGeR® 10-17-2005 06:59 PM

Re: Pops-A-Dent and the plastic bumper
 
BE <n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:BF79152A.3B4E5%n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net:

> On 10/17/05 7:18 AM, in article Xns96F25496A1CDAtegger@207.14.113.17,
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>> BE <n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net> wrote in
>> news:BF786BBC.3B31F%n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net:
>>
>>> My wife backed our '01 Odyssey into a tree stump adjacent to our
>>> driveway. It left a very deep dimple on the portion of the plastic
>>> rear bumper that lies beneath the tail light area, where the bumper
>>> curves up after following the line of the lower lip of the rear
>>> door.
>>>
>>> She then (without asking me) went to some web site and ordered a
>>> Pops-A-Dent thingy for $20 (I think) + shipping.
>>>
>>> They have not fulfilled the order yet (out of stock). I can still
>>> cancel this order if I want. Does anyone here have any experience
>>> with this product, and will it do any good on this corner area of
>>> the plastic bumper?
>>>

>>
>>
>>
>> Can't you just reach behind the bumper and push the dent out from the
>> inside?
>>

> No. I got under the car and there is too much structural material in
> the way, namely the tailpipe and the bumper bars (that are under the
> bumper skin). If the bumper skin itself could be removed easily, that
> would be the only way to do it.
>




Reach under and push your hand between the skin and rebar. There ought to
be enough flex there for you to wiggle in and push the dent out.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 10-17-2005 06:59 PM

Re: Pops-A-Dent and the plastic bumper
 
BE <n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:BF79152A.3B4E5%n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net:

> On 10/17/05 7:18 AM, in article Xns96F25496A1CDAtegger@207.14.113.17,
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>> BE <n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net> wrote in
>> news:BF786BBC.3B31F%n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net:
>>
>>> My wife backed our '01 Odyssey into a tree stump adjacent to our
>>> driveway. It left a very deep dimple on the portion of the plastic
>>> rear bumper that lies beneath the tail light area, where the bumper
>>> curves up after following the line of the lower lip of the rear
>>> door.
>>>
>>> She then (without asking me) went to some web site and ordered a
>>> Pops-A-Dent thingy for $20 (I think) + shipping.
>>>
>>> They have not fulfilled the order yet (out of stock). I can still
>>> cancel this order if I want. Does anyone here have any experience
>>> with this product, and will it do any good on this corner area of
>>> the plastic bumper?
>>>

>>
>>
>>
>> Can't you just reach behind the bumper and push the dent out from the
>> inside?
>>

> No. I got under the car and there is too much structural material in
> the way, namely the tailpipe and the bumper bars (that are under the
> bumper skin). If the bumper skin itself could be removed easily, that
> would be the only way to do it.
>




Reach under and push your hand between the skin and rebar. There ought to
be enough flex there for you to wiggle in and push the dent out.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

L Alpert 10-18-2005 11:10 PM

Re: Pops-A-Dent and the plastic bumper
 
BE wrote:
> Order cancelled. Thanks for warning me off this!
>
> Be


If you opt to push out the dent, it may be easier to heat it up with a hair
drier before doing so. Make sure you move it around and heat it evenly (not
just the dent, but some of the surrounding area). These bumpers are usually
PMMA and PP.

http://www.quesant.com/Gallery/Polymers/bumper.htm

If you can raise the temp of the area to over the glass transition
temperature (Tg) of the PP, this will make it easier to push out the dent.

Polypro Tg is about 100°c, or 212°f.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_transition



L Alpert 10-18-2005 11:10 PM

Re: Pops-A-Dent and the plastic bumper
 
BE wrote:
> Order cancelled. Thanks for warning me off this!
>
> Be


If you opt to push out the dent, it may be easier to heat it up with a hair
drier before doing so. Make sure you move it around and heat it evenly (not
just the dent, but some of the surrounding area). These bumpers are usually
PMMA and PP.

http://www.quesant.com/Gallery/Polymers/bumper.htm

If you can raise the temp of the area to over the glass transition
temperature (Tg) of the PP, this will make it easier to push out the dent.

Polypro Tg is about 100°c, or 212°f.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_transition



TeGGeR® 10-19-2005 08:13 AM

Re: Pops-A-Dent and the plastic bumper
 
"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote in
news:j-adnfZZfousJMjeRVn-uw@comcast.com:

> BE wrote:
>> Order cancelled. Thanks for warning me off this!
>>
>> Be

>
> If you opt to push out the dent, it may be easier to heat it up with a
> hair drier before doing so. Make sure you move it around and heat it
> evenly (not just the dent, but some of the surrounding area). These
> bumpers are usually PMMA and PP.



Interesting. They used to be polyurethane mixes.

PMMA is plain old acrylic. Your taillight lenses are acrylic.

If you buy a tub of macaroni salad from the grocery store, its lid will be
polypropylene. Those corrugated plastic promotional pole signs you see at
gas stations are also polypropylene.

I wonder why they switched materials?


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 10-19-2005 08:13 AM

Re: Pops-A-Dent and the plastic bumper
 
"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote in
news:j-adnfZZfousJMjeRVn-uw@comcast.com:

> BE wrote:
>> Order cancelled. Thanks for warning me off this!
>>
>> Be

>
> If you opt to push out the dent, it may be easier to heat it up with a
> hair drier before doing so. Make sure you move it around and heat it
> evenly (not just the dent, but some of the surrounding area). These
> bumpers are usually PMMA and PP.



Interesting. They used to be polyurethane mixes.

PMMA is plain old acrylic. Your taillight lenses are acrylic.

If you buy a tub of macaroni salad from the grocery store, its lid will be
polypropylene. Those corrugated plastic promotional pole signs you see at
gas stations are also polypropylene.

I wonder why they switched materials?


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Jim Yanik 10-19-2005 10:05 AM

Re: Pops-A-Dent and the plastic bumper
 
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns96F453B287513tegger@207.14.113.17:

> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote in
> news:j-adnfZZfousJMjeRVn-uw@comcast.com:
>
>> BE wrote:
>>> Order cancelled. Thanks for warning me off this!
>>>
>>> Be

>>
>> If you opt to push out the dent, it may be easier to heat it up with
>> a hair drier before doing so. Make sure you move it around and heat
>> it evenly (not just the dent, but some of the surrounding area).
>> These bumpers are usually PMMA and PP.

>
>
> Interesting. They used to be polyurethane mixes.
>
> PMMA is plain old acrylic. Your taillight lenses are acrylic.
>
> If you buy a tub of macaroni salad from the grocery store, its lid
> will be polypropylene. Those corrugated plastic promotional pole signs
> you see at gas stations are also polypropylene.
>
> I wonder why they switched materials?
>
>


I believe the bumpers are polyurethane.
Aftermarket bumper covers are advertised as urethane,for better flexibility
and no cracking.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 10-19-2005 10:05 AM

Re: Pops-A-Dent and the plastic bumper
 
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns96F453B287513tegger@207.14.113.17:

> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote in
> news:j-adnfZZfousJMjeRVn-uw@comcast.com:
>
>> BE wrote:
>>> Order cancelled. Thanks for warning me off this!
>>>
>>> Be

>>
>> If you opt to push out the dent, it may be easier to heat it up with
>> a hair drier before doing so. Make sure you move it around and heat
>> it evenly (not just the dent, but some of the surrounding area).
>> These bumpers are usually PMMA and PP.

>
>
> Interesting. They used to be polyurethane mixes.
>
> PMMA is plain old acrylic. Your taillight lenses are acrylic.
>
> If you buy a tub of macaroni salad from the grocery store, its lid
> will be polypropylene. Those corrugated plastic promotional pole signs
> you see at gas stations are also polypropylene.
>
> I wonder why they switched materials?
>
>


I believe the bumpers are polyurethane.
Aftermarket bumper covers are advertised as urethane,for better flexibility
and no cracking.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net


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