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Recode 02-29-2004 01:19 AM

Prelude 2000 Nasty Exhaust Smoke !!
 
Hi,

I own a 2000 Prelude (automatic transmission) and sometime I have some nasty
black smoke for the exhaust system, just like my car would burn oil.

I went to see the dealer about that and they told me that was OK like that.
A friend told me that the Vtech system was self-cleaning and the smoke was
from the self-cleaning !?

Anyone would know more about this issue ?

Thanks

Recode



T. Nelson 03-02-2004 12:02 PM

Re: Prelude 2000 Nasty Exhaust Smoke !!
 
In article <c1rsno$1g4g$1@news.wplus.net>, "Recode" <recode@pppoe.ca> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I own a 2000 Prelude (automatic transmission) and sometime I have some nasty
> black smoke for the exhaust system, just like my car would burn oil.
>
> I went to see the dealer about that and they told me that was OK like that.
> A friend told me that the Vtech system was self-cleaning and the smoke was
> from the self-cleaning !?
>
> Anyone would know more about this issue ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Recode


I have a 1999 Honda Accord EX that has a V tech engine and it does NOT
produce nasty black smoke from the exhaust system. Therefore, I think that
your dealer is lying to you. The next time that you visit the dealer, ask
him to stand behind one of the new or used Honda cars on the lot. Start it
up while watching the rear view mirrow. After NO black smoke comes out,
ask him why it comes out your exhaust pipe and not the exhaust pipe on the
one you just started. Back to your problem--there are several possible
causes. The best place to start is a complete tune-up. If that does not
solve the problem, run a compression check on each cylinder. Please repost
after you have done those things and let us know the results.

T. Nelson 03-02-2004 12:02 PM

Re: Prelude 2000 Nasty Exhaust Smoke !!
 
In article <c1rsno$1g4g$1@news.wplus.net>, "Recode" <recode@pppoe.ca> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I own a 2000 Prelude (automatic transmission) and sometime I have some nasty
> black smoke for the exhaust system, just like my car would burn oil.
>
> I went to see the dealer about that and they told me that was OK like that.
> A friend told me that the Vtech system was self-cleaning and the smoke was
> from the self-cleaning !?
>
> Anyone would know more about this issue ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Recode


I have a 1999 Honda Accord EX that has a V tech engine and it does NOT
produce nasty black smoke from the exhaust system. Therefore, I think that
your dealer is lying to you. The next time that you visit the dealer, ask
him to stand behind one of the new or used Honda cars on the lot. Start it
up while watching the rear view mirrow. After NO black smoke comes out,
ask him why it comes out your exhaust pipe and not the exhaust pipe on the
one you just started. Back to your problem--there are several possible
causes. The best place to start is a complete tune-up. If that does not
solve the problem, run a compression check on each cylinder. Please repost
after you have done those things and let us know the results.

T. Nelson 03-02-2004 12:02 PM

Re: Prelude 2000 Nasty Exhaust Smoke !!
 
In article <c1rsno$1g4g$1@news.wplus.net>, "Recode" <recode@pppoe.ca> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I own a 2000 Prelude (automatic transmission) and sometime I have some nasty
> black smoke for the exhaust system, just like my car would burn oil.
>
> I went to see the dealer about that and they told me that was OK like that.
> A friend told me that the Vtech system was self-cleaning and the smoke was
> from the self-cleaning !?
>
> Anyone would know more about this issue ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Recode


I have a 1999 Honda Accord EX that has a V tech engine and it does NOT
produce nasty black smoke from the exhaust system. Therefore, I think that
your dealer is lying to you. The next time that you visit the dealer, ask
him to stand behind one of the new or used Honda cars on the lot. Start it
up while watching the rear view mirrow. After NO black smoke comes out,
ask him why it comes out your exhaust pipe and not the exhaust pipe on the
one you just started. Back to your problem--there are several possible
causes. The best place to start is a complete tune-up. If that does not
solve the problem, run a compression check on each cylinder. Please repost
after you have done those things and let us know the results.

T. Nelson 03-02-2004 12:02 PM

Re: Prelude 2000 Nasty Exhaust Smoke !!
 
In article <c1rsno$1g4g$1@news.wplus.net>, "Recode" <recode@pppoe.ca> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I own a 2000 Prelude (automatic transmission) and sometime I have some nasty
> black smoke for the exhaust system, just like my car would burn oil.
>
> I went to see the dealer about that and they told me that was OK like that.
> A friend told me that the Vtech system was self-cleaning and the smoke was
> from the self-cleaning !?
>
> Anyone would know more about this issue ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Recode


I have a 1999 Honda Accord EX that has a V tech engine and it does NOT
produce nasty black smoke from the exhaust system. Therefore, I think that
your dealer is lying to you. The next time that you visit the dealer, ask
him to stand behind one of the new or used Honda cars on the lot. Start it
up while watching the rear view mirrow. After NO black smoke comes out,
ask him why it comes out your exhaust pipe and not the exhaust pipe on the
one you just started. Back to your problem--there are several possible
causes. The best place to start is a complete tune-up. If that does not
solve the problem, run a compression check on each cylinder. Please repost
after you have done those things and let us know the results.

Yuri Nebogatov 03-02-2004 09:03 PM

Re: Prelude 2000 Nasty Exhaust Smoke !!
 
I dont want to diss the previous poster, but I personally dont think you
should down cash on a "complete tuneup", unless we have different ideas of a
"complete tuneup".

Is the smoke just black or slightly blue-ish? Exactly how
"think" is it? Can you smell burned oil if you stand near the exhaust?

Most likely oil is leaking somewhere in the area of the valvetrain.... one
of the gaskets might be blown (and I'm not just talking about the head
gasket, also anything that insulates the cylinders, etc...)

First check for obvious leaks (that is, without taking off the engine
cover).... if you're lucky, you might isolate the problem right there. Have
a mechanic or someone with some car knowledge look inside the engine. I dont
think a compression check would be necessary.... in fact I cant even
directly relate these two problems. Most likely the mechanic (if he's not a
crook) will tell you which gasket/seal needs to be replaced and your car
will be back on the road, a proud swimmer in the ocean of rice (just kidding
dude).


"Recode" <recode@pppoe.ca> wrote in message
news:c1rsno$1g4g$1@news.wplus.net...
> Hi,
>
> I own a 2000 Prelude (automatic transmission) and sometime I have some

nasty
> black smoke for the exhaust system, just like my car would burn oil.
>
> I went to see the dealer about that and they told me that was OK like

that.
> A friend told me that the Vtech system was self-cleaning and the smoke was
> from the self-cleaning !?
>
> Anyone would know more about this issue ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Recode
>
>




Yuri Nebogatov 03-02-2004 09:03 PM

Re: Prelude 2000 Nasty Exhaust Smoke !!
 
I dont want to diss the previous poster, but I personally dont think you
should down cash on a "complete tuneup", unless we have different ideas of a
"complete tuneup".

Is the smoke just black or slightly blue-ish? Exactly how
"think" is it? Can you smell burned oil if you stand near the exhaust?

Most likely oil is leaking somewhere in the area of the valvetrain.... one
of the gaskets might be blown (and I'm not just talking about the head
gasket, also anything that insulates the cylinders, etc...)

First check for obvious leaks (that is, without taking off the engine
cover).... if you're lucky, you might isolate the problem right there. Have
a mechanic or someone with some car knowledge look inside the engine. I dont
think a compression check would be necessary.... in fact I cant even
directly relate these two problems. Most likely the mechanic (if he's not a
crook) will tell you which gasket/seal needs to be replaced and your car
will be back on the road, a proud swimmer in the ocean of rice (just kidding
dude).


"Recode" <recode@pppoe.ca> wrote in message
news:c1rsno$1g4g$1@news.wplus.net...
> Hi,
>
> I own a 2000 Prelude (automatic transmission) and sometime I have some

nasty
> black smoke for the exhaust system, just like my car would burn oil.
>
> I went to see the dealer about that and they told me that was OK like

that.
> A friend told me that the Vtech system was self-cleaning and the smoke was
> from the self-cleaning !?
>
> Anyone would know more about this issue ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Recode
>
>




Yuri Nebogatov 03-02-2004 09:03 PM

Re: Prelude 2000 Nasty Exhaust Smoke !!
 
I dont want to diss the previous poster, but I personally dont think you
should down cash on a "complete tuneup", unless we have different ideas of a
"complete tuneup".

Is the smoke just black or slightly blue-ish? Exactly how
"think" is it? Can you smell burned oil if you stand near the exhaust?

Most likely oil is leaking somewhere in the area of the valvetrain.... one
of the gaskets might be blown (and I'm not just talking about the head
gasket, also anything that insulates the cylinders, etc...)

First check for obvious leaks (that is, without taking off the engine
cover).... if you're lucky, you might isolate the problem right there. Have
a mechanic or someone with some car knowledge look inside the engine. I dont
think a compression check would be necessary.... in fact I cant even
directly relate these two problems. Most likely the mechanic (if he's not a
crook) will tell you which gasket/seal needs to be replaced and your car
will be back on the road, a proud swimmer in the ocean of rice (just kidding
dude).


"Recode" <recode@pppoe.ca> wrote in message
news:c1rsno$1g4g$1@news.wplus.net...
> Hi,
>
> I own a 2000 Prelude (automatic transmission) and sometime I have some

nasty
> black smoke for the exhaust system, just like my car would burn oil.
>
> I went to see the dealer about that and they told me that was OK like

that.
> A friend told me that the Vtech system was self-cleaning and the smoke was
> from the self-cleaning !?
>
> Anyone would know more about this issue ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Recode
>
>




Yuri Nebogatov 03-02-2004 09:03 PM

Re: Prelude 2000 Nasty Exhaust Smoke !!
 
I dont want to diss the previous poster, but I personally dont think you
should down cash on a "complete tuneup", unless we have different ideas of a
"complete tuneup".

Is the smoke just black or slightly blue-ish? Exactly how
"think" is it? Can you smell burned oil if you stand near the exhaust?

Most likely oil is leaking somewhere in the area of the valvetrain.... one
of the gaskets might be blown (and I'm not just talking about the head
gasket, also anything that insulates the cylinders, etc...)

First check for obvious leaks (that is, without taking off the engine
cover).... if you're lucky, you might isolate the problem right there. Have
a mechanic or someone with some car knowledge look inside the engine. I dont
think a compression check would be necessary.... in fact I cant even
directly relate these two problems. Most likely the mechanic (if he's not a
crook) will tell you which gasket/seal needs to be replaced and your car
will be back on the road, a proud swimmer in the ocean of rice (just kidding
dude).


"Recode" <recode@pppoe.ca> wrote in message
news:c1rsno$1g4g$1@news.wplus.net...
> Hi,
>
> I own a 2000 Prelude (automatic transmission) and sometime I have some

nasty
> black smoke for the exhaust system, just like my car would burn oil.
>
> I went to see the dealer about that and they told me that was OK like

that.
> A friend told me that the Vtech system was self-cleaning and the smoke was
> from the self-cleaning !?
>
> Anyone would know more about this issue ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Recode
>
>




T. Nelson 03-04-2004 11:06 AM

Re: Prelude 2000 Nasty Exhaust Smoke !!
 
In article <V1b1c.87093$T03.1870791@wagner.videotron.net>, "Yuri
Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote:

> I dont want to diss the previous poster, but I personally dont think you
> should down cash on a "complete tuneup", unless we have different ideas of a
> "complete tuneup".
>
> Is the smoke just black or slightly blue-ish? Exactly how
> "think" is it? Can you smell burned oil if you stand near the exhaust?
>
> Most likely oil is leaking somewhere in the area of the valvetrain.... one
> of the gaskets might be blown (and I'm not just talking about the head
> gasket, also anything that insulates the cylinders, etc...)
>
> First check for obvious leaks (that is, without taking off the engine
> cover).... if you're lucky, you might isolate the problem right there. Have
> a mechanic or someone with some car knowledge look inside the engine. I dont
> think a compression check would be necessary.... in fact I cant even
> directly relate these two problems. Most likely the mechanic (if he's not a
> crook) will tell you which gasket/seal needs to be replaced and your car
> will be back on the road, a proud swimmer in the ocean of rice (just kidding
> dude).
>
>
> "Recode" <recode@pppoe.ca> wrote in message
> news:c1rsno$1g4g$1@news.wplus.net...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I own a 2000 Prelude (automatic transmission) and sometime I have some

> nasty
> > black smoke for the exhaust system, just like my car would burn oil.
> >
> > I went to see the dealer about that and they told me that was OK like

> that.
> > A friend told me that the Vtech system was self-cleaning and the smoke was
> > from the self-cleaning !?
> >
> > Anyone would know more about this issue ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Recode
> >
> >


Recode,
I was not disrespected by you. You gave the original poster some excellent
advice. You could be right about the blown gasket. On the other hand, it
could also be a more serious problem such as bad rings-- a compression
check would be an excellent means to determine whether or not there is
problem related to bad rings.

T. Nelson 03-04-2004 11:06 AM

Re: Prelude 2000 Nasty Exhaust Smoke !!
 
In article <V1b1c.87093$T03.1870791@wagner.videotron.net>, "Yuri
Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote:

> I dont want to diss the previous poster, but I personally dont think you
> should down cash on a "complete tuneup", unless we have different ideas of a
> "complete tuneup".
>
> Is the smoke just black or slightly blue-ish? Exactly how
> "think" is it? Can you smell burned oil if you stand near the exhaust?
>
> Most likely oil is leaking somewhere in the area of the valvetrain.... one
> of the gaskets might be blown (and I'm not just talking about the head
> gasket, also anything that insulates the cylinders, etc...)
>
> First check for obvious leaks (that is, without taking off the engine
> cover).... if you're lucky, you might isolate the problem right there. Have
> a mechanic or someone with some car knowledge look inside the engine. I dont
> think a compression check would be necessary.... in fact I cant even
> directly relate these two problems. Most likely the mechanic (if he's not a
> crook) will tell you which gasket/seal needs to be replaced and your car
> will be back on the road, a proud swimmer in the ocean of rice (just kidding
> dude).
>
>
> "Recode" <recode@pppoe.ca> wrote in message
> news:c1rsno$1g4g$1@news.wplus.net...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I own a 2000 Prelude (automatic transmission) and sometime I have some

> nasty
> > black smoke for the exhaust system, just like my car would burn oil.
> >
> > I went to see the dealer about that and they told me that was OK like

> that.
> > A friend told me that the Vtech system was self-cleaning and the smoke was
> > from the self-cleaning !?
> >
> > Anyone would know more about this issue ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Recode
> >
> >


Recode,
I was not disrespected by you. You gave the original poster some excellent
advice. You could be right about the blown gasket. On the other hand, it
could also be a more serious problem such as bad rings-- a compression
check would be an excellent means to determine whether or not there is
problem related to bad rings.

T. Nelson 03-04-2004 11:06 AM

Re: Prelude 2000 Nasty Exhaust Smoke !!
 
In article <V1b1c.87093$T03.1870791@wagner.videotron.net>, "Yuri
Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote:

> I dont want to diss the previous poster, but I personally dont think you
> should down cash on a "complete tuneup", unless we have different ideas of a
> "complete tuneup".
>
> Is the smoke just black or slightly blue-ish? Exactly how
> "think" is it? Can you smell burned oil if you stand near the exhaust?
>
> Most likely oil is leaking somewhere in the area of the valvetrain.... one
> of the gaskets might be blown (and I'm not just talking about the head
> gasket, also anything that insulates the cylinders, etc...)
>
> First check for obvious leaks (that is, without taking off the engine
> cover).... if you're lucky, you might isolate the problem right there. Have
> a mechanic or someone with some car knowledge look inside the engine. I dont
> think a compression check would be necessary.... in fact I cant even
> directly relate these two problems. Most likely the mechanic (if he's not a
> crook) will tell you which gasket/seal needs to be replaced and your car
> will be back on the road, a proud swimmer in the ocean of rice (just kidding
> dude).
>
>
> "Recode" <recode@pppoe.ca> wrote in message
> news:c1rsno$1g4g$1@news.wplus.net...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I own a 2000 Prelude (automatic transmission) and sometime I have some

> nasty
> > black smoke for the exhaust system, just like my car would burn oil.
> >
> > I went to see the dealer about that and they told me that was OK like

> that.
> > A friend told me that the Vtech system was self-cleaning and the smoke was
> > from the self-cleaning !?
> >
> > Anyone would know more about this issue ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Recode
> >
> >


Recode,
I was not disrespected by you. You gave the original poster some excellent
advice. You could be right about the blown gasket. On the other hand, it
could also be a more serious problem such as bad rings-- a compression
check would be an excellent means to determine whether or not there is
problem related to bad rings.

T. Nelson 03-04-2004 11:06 AM

Re: Prelude 2000 Nasty Exhaust Smoke !!
 
In article <V1b1c.87093$T03.1870791@wagner.videotron.net>, "Yuri
Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote:

> I dont want to diss the previous poster, but I personally dont think you
> should down cash on a "complete tuneup", unless we have different ideas of a
> "complete tuneup".
>
> Is the smoke just black or slightly blue-ish? Exactly how
> "think" is it? Can you smell burned oil if you stand near the exhaust?
>
> Most likely oil is leaking somewhere in the area of the valvetrain.... one
> of the gaskets might be blown (and I'm not just talking about the head
> gasket, also anything that insulates the cylinders, etc...)
>
> First check for obvious leaks (that is, without taking off the engine
> cover).... if you're lucky, you might isolate the problem right there. Have
> a mechanic or someone with some car knowledge look inside the engine. I dont
> think a compression check would be necessary.... in fact I cant even
> directly relate these two problems. Most likely the mechanic (if he's not a
> crook) will tell you which gasket/seal needs to be replaced and your car
> will be back on the road, a proud swimmer in the ocean of rice (just kidding
> dude).
>
>
> "Recode" <recode@pppoe.ca> wrote in message
> news:c1rsno$1g4g$1@news.wplus.net...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I own a 2000 Prelude (automatic transmission) and sometime I have some

> nasty
> > black smoke for the exhaust system, just like my car would burn oil.
> >
> > I went to see the dealer about that and they told me that was OK like

> that.
> > A friend told me that the Vtech system was self-cleaning and the smoke was
> > from the self-cleaning !?
> >
> > Anyone would know more about this issue ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Recode
> >
> >


Recode,
I was not disrespected by you. You gave the original poster some excellent
advice. You could be right about the blown gasket. On the other hand, it
could also be a more serious problem such as bad rings-- a compression
check would be an excellent means to determine whether or not there is
problem related to bad rings.

TWW 03-05-2004 06:28 PM

Re: Prelude 2000 Nasty Exhaust Smoke !!
 

"Recode" <recode@pppoe.ca> wrote in message
news:c1rsno$1g4g$1@news.wplus.net...
> Hi,
>
> I own a 2000 Prelude (automatic transmission) and sometime I have some

nasty
> black smoke for the exhaust system, just like my car would burn oil.
>
> I went to see the dealer about that and they told me that was OK like

that.
> A friend told me that the Vtech system was self-cleaning and the smoke was
> from the self-cleaning !?
>
> Anyone would know more about this issue ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Recode


Preludes (5th gen) tend to use oil -- qt every 1500 - 3000 miles as a rule .
Switching to Mobil I synthetic will help. Mine will put out a little black
smoke on hard acceleration to redline when the VTEC bangs in at 5400 --
usually after I have run it around town. Recommend you check out
www.hpoa.org -- a site for Prelude owners. You will get more help there
from folks who own the car
>
>




TWW 03-05-2004 06:28 PM

Re: Prelude 2000 Nasty Exhaust Smoke !!
 

"Recode" <recode@pppoe.ca> wrote in message
news:c1rsno$1g4g$1@news.wplus.net...
> Hi,
>
> I own a 2000 Prelude (automatic transmission) and sometime I have some

nasty
> black smoke for the exhaust system, just like my car would burn oil.
>
> I went to see the dealer about that and they told me that was OK like

that.
> A friend told me that the Vtech system was self-cleaning and the smoke was
> from the self-cleaning !?
>
> Anyone would know more about this issue ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Recode


Preludes (5th gen) tend to use oil -- qt every 1500 - 3000 miles as a rule .
Switching to Mobil I synthetic will help. Mine will put out a little black
smoke on hard acceleration to redline when the VTEC bangs in at 5400 --
usually after I have run it around town. Recommend you check out
www.hpoa.org -- a site for Prelude owners. You will get more help there
from folks who own the car
>
>





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