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e.meyer 01-02-2009 01:07 PM

Re: Problem with the CORRECT radio code on 3.2 TL
 
On Jan 1, 12:56 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
> In article
> <77307939-5a67-4c63-ba4d-504a51701...@r40g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
>
> JayN <JReal...@Hotmail.Com> wrote:
> > Granted it was nice that the dealer did offer to rivive the radio for
> > free (THIS TIME), and it was nice that it turend out that I was able
> > to get it done myself and so won't be needing the dealer's help, but I
> > just hope I don't run into this issue again since it is a hassle.
> > Clearly this radio has a design flaw.

>
> > Likely I won't be buying another Acura again unless they can prove to
> > me beforehand that the radio code actually works....and the navigation
> > code too if I get one that has built-in navigation.

>
> Funny, this has never been an issue with a Honda-branded car.
>
> I think something went wrong with this particular design of radio.


Why do you keep saying "Honda-branded" car. An Acura IS a Honda-
branded car.

Elmo P. Shagnasty 01-02-2009 05:26 PM

Re: Problem with the CORRECT radio code on 3.2 TL
 
In article
<e607ad19-a463-44cc-858a-580ef8147643@r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
"e.meyer" <epmeyer50@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I think something went wrong with this particular design of radio.

>
> Why do you keep saying "Honda-branded" car. An Acura IS a Honda-
> branded car.


In the US, Honda is a brand. Acura is a distinct brand.

e.meyer 01-04-2009 04:38 PM

Re: Problem with the CORRECT radio code on 3.2 TL
 
On Jan 2, 4:26 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> In article
> <e607ad19-a463-44cc-858a-580ef8147...@r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> "e.meyer" <epmeye...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I think something went wrong with this particular design of radio.

>
> > Why do you keep saying "Honda-branded" car. An Acura IS a Honda-
> > branded car.

>
> In the US, Honda is a brand. Acura is a distinct brand.


Look closer, the Acura "A" is actually a bent "H". I bought virtually
all the parts I ever needed for my Acura TL from the local Honda
dealer at 1/2 the price. The TL and the Accord come down the same
assembly line in Ohio right next to each other. I think you are
trying to make a distinction that just isn't there.

Elmo P. Shagnasty 01-04-2009 05:24 PM

Re: Problem with the CORRECT radio code on 3.2 TL
 
In article
<f45a3c32-64e7-44c5-81e2-f204b71c64b6@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
"e.meyer" <epmeyer50@gmail.com> wrote:

> > In the US, Honda is a brand. Acura is a distinct brand.

>
> Look closer, the Acura "A" is actually a bent "H".


I understand that.


> I bought virtually
> all the parts I ever needed for my Acura TL from the local Honda
> dealer at 1/2 the price.


I understand that.



> The TL and the Accord come down the same
> assembly line in Ohio right next to each other.


I understand that.



> I think you are
> trying to make a distinction that just isn't there.


I'm making the distinction that American Honda Motor Manufacturing
makes, no more and no less.

No radio with the Honda brand on it placed in a Honda-labeled car sold
by a Honda dealership has ever had this kind of problem. Further, the
radio that DID have the problem fits ONLY in the TL and not in any other
car, correct? Therefore it was designed FOR the TL, which is an
Acura-branded car.

On THIS radio, the one with the Acura brand on it, installed in an
Acura-branded car, Honda ed up the design. No doubt they fixed it,
because this is NOT the intended behavior of the security feature.

The fact remains, this happens ONLY in an Acura-branded car.

If you want to discuss how the cars are the same, have the discussion
with American Honda Motor Manufacturing.

Oh--as for the "distinction that just isn't there," two things:

* try getting a replacement radio for your Acura from the Honda dealer
(even better, try getting the replacement comp'd by the zone manager
that the Honda dealer deals with)

* try getting warranty service on your Acura by taking it into the Honda
dealer

Now let's see if the distinction isn't there.

I didn't make the distinction. American Honda Motor Manufacturing did.
And American Honda Motor Manufacturing ed up the design and
manufacture of this one Acura-branded radio.

e.meyer 01-05-2009 04:44 PM

Re: Problem with the CORRECT radio code on 3.2 TL
 
On Jan 4, 4:24 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> In article
> <f45a3c32-64e7-44c5-81e2-f204b71c6...@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> "e.meyer" <epmeye...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > In the US, Honda is a brand. Acura is a distinct brand.

>
> > Look closer, the Acura "A" is actually a bent "H".

>
> I understand that.
>
> > I bought virtually
> > all the parts I ever needed for my Acura TL from the local Honda
> > dealer at 1/2 the price.

>
> I understand that.
>
> > The TL and the Accord come down the same
> > assembly line in Ohio right next to each other.

>
> I understand that.
>
> > I think you are
> > trying to make a distinction that just isn't there.

>
> I'm making the distinction that American Honda Motor Manufacturing
> makes, no more and no less.
>
> No radio with the Honda brand on it placed in a Honda-labeled car sold
> by a Honda dealership has ever had this kind of problem. Further, the
> radio that DID have the problem fits ONLY in the TL and not in any other
> car, correct? Therefore it was designed FOR the TL, which is an
> Acura-branded car.
>
> On THIS radio, the one with the Acura brand on it, installed in an
> Acura-branded car, Honda ed up the design. No doubt they fixed it,
> because this is NOT the intended behavior of the security feature.
>
> The fact remains, this happens ONLY in an Acura-branded car.
>
> If you want to discuss how the cars are the same, have the discussion
> with American Honda Motor Manufacturing.
>
> Oh--as for the "distinction that just isn't there," two things:
>
> * try getting a replacement radio for your Acura from the Honda dealer
> (even better, try getting the replacement comp'd by the zone manager
> that the Honda dealer deals with)


Don't know about this specific radio, but the one in my 2000 TL
definitely was listed in the local Honda dealer's parts book (who, by
the way, was not also an Acura dealer).

>
> * try getting warranty service on your Acura by taking it into the Honda
> dealer


They serviced mine on two separate occasions. Now if you want to talk
about Nissan & Infiniti, you would be right, but not Honda.


>
> Now let's see if the distinction isn't there.
>
> I didn't make the distinction. American Honda Motor Manufacturing did.
> And American Honda Motor Manufacturing ed up the design and
> manufacture of this one Acura-branded radio.




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