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CaptainKrunch 01-24-2004 02:13 PM

Re: Question about ABS problem
 
Whenever there is a hard fault and the light comes on, same with the air bag
light, that system is rendered inoperative until the problem is fixed.
Sometimes weird things happen and after being reset it will work fine for a
day, a month, a year, or whatever. Computers are touchy sometimes.

I imagine some debri could have gotten in between a wheel speed sensor and
the ring which could have tripped the light. The debris went away and the
light got reset. Problem solved.

CaptainKrunch


"Razzle Bathbone" <RazzleBathbone@hotmail.comma> wrote in message
news:nl6510ltb7hkoc72ulaoq44nd9htea5l1p@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:06:35 -0800, "CaptainKrunch"
> <nothing@nobody.com> wrote:
>
> >Agree with the other poster. It appears that there was a problem at one
> >time and it may still be there. If it pops up again then you should have

it
> >fixed if you wish to utilize the ABS system. Personally if my 96 Accord

EX
> >requires replacement of any ABS parts over a $100 I will probably not
> >bother fixing it. My understanding is that the ABS parts like the pump

and
> >such can cost $600 bucks on up. The brakes work just fine without ABS as
> >long as you remember to pump the pedal during an emergency skid or snow,
> >etc.
> >
> >Since you haven't activated the ABS in so long a flush would not be a

bad
> >idea and then take the car out and slam the pedal to the floor on a slick
> >surface away from anything that could be killed or hit and hold the pedal
> >until it pumps up and down. I would do this several times. The

bleeding
> >process however may activate the pump in the same manner. Check the
> >manual, or take it to a Honda dealer for service.
> >
> >CaptainKrunch

>
>
> Thanks. I did just that and the ABS worked fine on the slick surface.
> I felt the brake pedal doing the pumping and the car stopped in a
> straight line. I personally like the ABS system but cannot see
> putting close to a thousand bucks into the car. The car has been very
> reliable and is in excellent condition. If it fails again, I will
> probably just use it as it is. I was puzzled that it would start
> working just because the battery was drained.
>
>
>
> Razzle---------thanks again.




CaptainKrunch 01-24-2004 02:13 PM

Re: Question about ABS problem
 
Whenever there is a hard fault and the light comes on, same with the air bag
light, that system is rendered inoperative until the problem is fixed.
Sometimes weird things happen and after being reset it will work fine for a
day, a month, a year, or whatever. Computers are touchy sometimes.

I imagine some debri could have gotten in between a wheel speed sensor and
the ring which could have tripped the light. The debris went away and the
light got reset. Problem solved.

CaptainKrunch


"Razzle Bathbone" <RazzleBathbone@hotmail.comma> wrote in message
news:nl6510ltb7hkoc72ulaoq44nd9htea5l1p@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:06:35 -0800, "CaptainKrunch"
> <nothing@nobody.com> wrote:
>
> >Agree with the other poster. It appears that there was a problem at one
> >time and it may still be there. If it pops up again then you should have

it
> >fixed if you wish to utilize the ABS system. Personally if my 96 Accord

EX
> >requires replacement of any ABS parts over a $100 I will probably not
> >bother fixing it. My understanding is that the ABS parts like the pump

and
> >such can cost $600 bucks on up. The brakes work just fine without ABS as
> >long as you remember to pump the pedal during an emergency skid or snow,
> >etc.
> >
> >Since you haven't activated the ABS in so long a flush would not be a

bad
> >idea and then take the car out and slam the pedal to the floor on a slick
> >surface away from anything that could be killed or hit and hold the pedal
> >until it pumps up and down. I would do this several times. The

bleeding
> >process however may activate the pump in the same manner. Check the
> >manual, or take it to a Honda dealer for service.
> >
> >CaptainKrunch

>
>
> Thanks. I did just that and the ABS worked fine on the slick surface.
> I felt the brake pedal doing the pumping and the car stopped in a
> straight line. I personally like the ABS system but cannot see
> putting close to a thousand bucks into the car. The car has been very
> reliable and is in excellent condition. If it fails again, I will
> probably just use it as it is. I was puzzled that it would start
> working just because the battery was drained.
>
>
>
> Razzle---------thanks again.




Greg B 01-25-2004 07:35 PM

Re: Question about ABS problem
 
You might also check all the things that cause that light to come on and
lock out the system. I chased a problem with ABS, different type car
(Dodge), for several years before I found a right rear stop light bulb that
would intermittently open. It finally shorted out and blew the fuse. I
haven't had the system fault on me in 4 years. I know I'll take some grief
over this but at least download the codes and make sure it's the pump before
you drop tons of money.


"CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:q5CdnfbDXt-WWY_dRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> Whenever there is a hard fault and the light comes on, same with the air

bag
> light, that system is rendered inoperative until the problem is fixed.
> Sometimes weird things happen and after being reset it will work fine for

a
> day, a month, a year, or whatever. Computers are touchy sometimes.
>
> I imagine some debri could have gotten in between a wheel speed sensor and
> the ring which could have tripped the light. The debris went away and the
> light got reset. Problem solved.
>
> CaptainKrunch
>
>
> "Razzle Bathbone" <RazzleBathbone@hotmail.comma> wrote in message
> news:nl6510ltb7hkoc72ulaoq44nd9htea5l1p@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:06:35 -0800, "CaptainKrunch"
> > <nothing@nobody.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Agree with the other poster. It appears that there was a problem at

one
> > >time and it may still be there. If it pops up again then you should

have
> it
> > >fixed if you wish to utilize the ABS system. Personally if my 96

Accord
> EX
> > >requires replacement of any ABS parts over a $100 I will probably not
> > >bother fixing it. My understanding is that the ABS parts like the pump

> and
> > >such can cost $600 bucks on up. The brakes work just fine without ABS

as
> > >long as you remember to pump the pedal during an emergency skid or

snow,
> > >etc.
> > >
> > >Since you haven't activated the ABS in so long a flush would not be a

> bad
> > >idea and then take the car out and slam the pedal to the floor on a

slick
> > >surface away from anything that could be killed or hit and hold the

pedal
> > >until it pumps up and down. I would do this several times. The

> bleeding
> > >process however may activate the pump in the same manner. Check the
> > >manual, or take it to a Honda dealer for service.
> > >
> > >CaptainKrunch

> >
> >
> > Thanks. I did just that and the ABS worked fine on the slick surface.
> > I felt the brake pedal doing the pumping and the car stopped in a
> > straight line. I personally like the ABS system but cannot see
> > putting close to a thousand bucks into the car. The car has been very
> > reliable and is in excellent condition. If it fails again, I will
> > probably just use it as it is. I was puzzled that it would start
> > working just because the battery was drained.
> >
> >
> >
> > Razzle---------thanks again.

>
>




Greg B 01-25-2004 07:35 PM

Re: Question about ABS problem
 
You might also check all the things that cause that light to come on and
lock out the system. I chased a problem with ABS, different type car
(Dodge), for several years before I found a right rear stop light bulb that
would intermittently open. It finally shorted out and blew the fuse. I
haven't had the system fault on me in 4 years. I know I'll take some grief
over this but at least download the codes and make sure it's the pump before
you drop tons of money.


"CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:q5CdnfbDXt-WWY_dRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> Whenever there is a hard fault and the light comes on, same with the air

bag
> light, that system is rendered inoperative until the problem is fixed.
> Sometimes weird things happen and after being reset it will work fine for

a
> day, a month, a year, or whatever. Computers are touchy sometimes.
>
> I imagine some debri could have gotten in between a wheel speed sensor and
> the ring which could have tripped the light. The debris went away and the
> light got reset. Problem solved.
>
> CaptainKrunch
>
>
> "Razzle Bathbone" <RazzleBathbone@hotmail.comma> wrote in message
> news:nl6510ltb7hkoc72ulaoq44nd9htea5l1p@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:06:35 -0800, "CaptainKrunch"
> > <nothing@nobody.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Agree with the other poster. It appears that there was a problem at

one
> > >time and it may still be there. If it pops up again then you should

have
> it
> > >fixed if you wish to utilize the ABS system. Personally if my 96

Accord
> EX
> > >requires replacement of any ABS parts over a $100 I will probably not
> > >bother fixing it. My understanding is that the ABS parts like the pump

> and
> > >such can cost $600 bucks on up. The brakes work just fine without ABS

as
> > >long as you remember to pump the pedal during an emergency skid or

snow,
> > >etc.
> > >
> > >Since you haven't activated the ABS in so long a flush would not be a

> bad
> > >idea and then take the car out and slam the pedal to the floor on a

slick
> > >surface away from anything that could be killed or hit and hold the

pedal
> > >until it pumps up and down. I would do this several times. The

> bleeding
> > >process however may activate the pump in the same manner. Check the
> > >manual, or take it to a Honda dealer for service.
> > >
> > >CaptainKrunch

> >
> >
> > Thanks. I did just that and the ABS worked fine on the slick surface.
> > I felt the brake pedal doing the pumping and the car stopped in a
> > straight line. I personally like the ABS system but cannot see
> > putting close to a thousand bucks into the car. The car has been very
> > reliable and is in excellent condition. If it fails again, I will
> > probably just use it as it is. I was puzzled that it would start
> > working just because the battery was drained.
> >
> >
> >
> > Razzle---------thanks again.

>
>




Greg B 01-25-2004 07:35 PM

Re: Question about ABS problem
 
You might also check all the things that cause that light to come on and
lock out the system. I chased a problem with ABS, different type car
(Dodge), for several years before I found a right rear stop light bulb that
would intermittently open. It finally shorted out and blew the fuse. I
haven't had the system fault on me in 4 years. I know I'll take some grief
over this but at least download the codes and make sure it's the pump before
you drop tons of money.


"CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:q5CdnfbDXt-WWY_dRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> Whenever there is a hard fault and the light comes on, same with the air

bag
> light, that system is rendered inoperative until the problem is fixed.
> Sometimes weird things happen and after being reset it will work fine for

a
> day, a month, a year, or whatever. Computers are touchy sometimes.
>
> I imagine some debri could have gotten in between a wheel speed sensor and
> the ring which could have tripped the light. The debris went away and the
> light got reset. Problem solved.
>
> CaptainKrunch
>
>
> "Razzle Bathbone" <RazzleBathbone@hotmail.comma> wrote in message
> news:nl6510ltb7hkoc72ulaoq44nd9htea5l1p@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:06:35 -0800, "CaptainKrunch"
> > <nothing@nobody.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Agree with the other poster. It appears that there was a problem at

one
> > >time and it may still be there. If it pops up again then you should

have
> it
> > >fixed if you wish to utilize the ABS system. Personally if my 96

Accord
> EX
> > >requires replacement of any ABS parts over a $100 I will probably not
> > >bother fixing it. My understanding is that the ABS parts like the pump

> and
> > >such can cost $600 bucks on up. The brakes work just fine without ABS

as
> > >long as you remember to pump the pedal during an emergency skid or

snow,
> > >etc.
> > >
> > >Since you haven't activated the ABS in so long a flush would not be a

> bad
> > >idea and then take the car out and slam the pedal to the floor on a

slick
> > >surface away from anything that could be killed or hit and hold the

pedal
> > >until it pumps up and down. I would do this several times. The

> bleeding
> > >process however may activate the pump in the same manner. Check the
> > >manual, or take it to a Honda dealer for service.
> > >
> > >CaptainKrunch

> >
> >
> > Thanks. I did just that and the ABS worked fine on the slick surface.
> > I felt the brake pedal doing the pumping and the car stopped in a
> > straight line. I personally like the ABS system but cannot see
> > putting close to a thousand bucks into the car. The car has been very
> > reliable and is in excellent condition. If it fails again, I will
> > probably just use it as it is. I was puzzled that it would start
> > working just because the battery was drained.
> >
> >
> >
> > Razzle---------thanks again.

>
>




Greg B 01-25-2004 07:35 PM

Re: Question about ABS problem
 
You might also check all the things that cause that light to come on and
lock out the system. I chased a problem with ABS, different type car
(Dodge), for several years before I found a right rear stop light bulb that
would intermittently open. It finally shorted out and blew the fuse. I
haven't had the system fault on me in 4 years. I know I'll take some grief
over this but at least download the codes and make sure it's the pump before
you drop tons of money.


"CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:q5CdnfbDXt-WWY_dRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> Whenever there is a hard fault and the light comes on, same with the air

bag
> light, that system is rendered inoperative until the problem is fixed.
> Sometimes weird things happen and after being reset it will work fine for

a
> day, a month, a year, or whatever. Computers are touchy sometimes.
>
> I imagine some debri could have gotten in between a wheel speed sensor and
> the ring which could have tripped the light. The debris went away and the
> light got reset. Problem solved.
>
> CaptainKrunch
>
>
> "Razzle Bathbone" <RazzleBathbone@hotmail.comma> wrote in message
> news:nl6510ltb7hkoc72ulaoq44nd9htea5l1p@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:06:35 -0800, "CaptainKrunch"
> > <nothing@nobody.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Agree with the other poster. It appears that there was a problem at

one
> > >time and it may still be there. If it pops up again then you should

have
> it
> > >fixed if you wish to utilize the ABS system. Personally if my 96

Accord
> EX
> > >requires replacement of any ABS parts over a $100 I will probably not
> > >bother fixing it. My understanding is that the ABS parts like the pump

> and
> > >such can cost $600 bucks on up. The brakes work just fine without ABS

as
> > >long as you remember to pump the pedal during an emergency skid or

snow,
> > >etc.
> > >
> > >Since you haven't activated the ABS in so long a flush would not be a

> bad
> > >idea and then take the car out and slam the pedal to the floor on a

slick
> > >surface away from anything that could be killed or hit and hold the

pedal
> > >until it pumps up and down. I would do this several times. The

> bleeding
> > >process however may activate the pump in the same manner. Check the
> > >manual, or take it to a Honda dealer for service.
> > >
> > >CaptainKrunch

> >
> >
> > Thanks. I did just that and the ABS worked fine on the slick surface.
> > I felt the brake pedal doing the pumping and the car stopped in a
> > straight line. I personally like the ABS system but cannot see
> > putting close to a thousand bucks into the car. The car has been very
> > reliable and is in excellent condition. If it fails again, I will
> > probably just use it as it is. I was puzzled that it would start
> > working just because the battery was drained.
> >
> >
> >
> > Razzle---------thanks again.

>
>





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