Re: Question for a FRiend
 

TeGGeR® wrote:
> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in
> news:4500D32C.7FA9A24E@GrumpyvilleNOT.com:
>
>>
>> "'Curly Q. Links'" wrote:
>
>>> www.slhondaparts.com has diagrams, maybe you can 'spot the cradle'.
>>>
>>> 'Curly'
>>
>>
>> Ain't a cradle the thing that fell out of the treetop after the wind
>> began to blow???
>>
>
>
> You're putting me to sleep... zzzzzzzzzzzz
>

LOL! Take that diagram and look for the baby. Probably be pretty easy
to spot, even if it's spattered. Cradle should be close by.

Re: Question for a Friend
 

Older Honda models were kinda known for squeaks/creaking
when getting into the car and going over bumps. Typically
they emanated from (1) the suspension coils rubbing against
their upper or lower mount; (2) the suspension control arm
bushings.

I never saw any sure solution to this. IIRC people tried
various lubricants, and they worked a few weeks, then the
noise would come back. But at least this approach would
narrow down the source and so alleviate concerns.

I put new control arm bushings in all around my old 91 Civic
this past spring. They now squeak/creak when temperatures
are lower. I confirmed the source by stopping the car
completely, and just pushing up and down on the front and
rear bumpers. You could do similar, or maybe also put the
car on ramps or jackstands and get someone to get close to
the suspect source.

groups.google the archive of this group and
rec.autos.makers.honda for more commentary.

Again, I am not sure if newer models have been showing this
problem or not. Just tossing this out until someone with
more experience with your friend's model chime in.

I suppose the cradle is some major supporting or generic
member of the car's frame or suspension.

"Brandon Scarbrough" <brandon_scarbrough@hotmail.com> wrote
> My Friend recently bought a 2003 Honda Accord EX.
>
> When she drove off of the lot she noticed some squeaking
> when going
> over bumps, I told her it sounded like shocks. She took
> it to the
> dealership, under waranty, and they tell her it is
> "something rubbing
> against the cradle"
>
> What the hell does that mean?? This is the rear
> suspention. You all
> think she should just return the car or what. does this
> sound like a
> big deal, I have no idea what a cradle is. Thanks all!
>

Re: Question for a Friend
 

Older Honda models were kinda known for squeaks/creaking
when getting into the car and going over bumps. Typically
they emanated from (1) the suspension coils rubbing against
their upper or lower mount; (2) the suspension control arm
bushings.

I never saw any sure solution to this. IIRC people tried
various lubricants, and they worked a few weeks, then the
noise would come back. But at least this approach would
narrow down the source and so alleviate concerns.

I put new control arm bushings in all around my old 91 Civic
this past spring. They now squeak/creak when temperatures
are lower. I confirmed the source by stopping the car
completely, and just pushing up and down on the front and
rear bumpers. You could do similar, or maybe also put the
car on ramps or jackstands and get someone to get close to
the suspect source.

groups.google the archive of this group and
rec.autos.makers.honda for more commentary.

Again, I am not sure if newer models have been showing this
problem or not. Just tossing this out until someone with
more experience with your friend's model chime in.

I suppose the cradle is some major supporting or generic
member of the car's frame or suspension.

"Brandon Scarbrough" <brandon_scarbrough@hotmail.com> wrote
> My Friend recently bought a 2003 Honda Accord EX.
>
> When she drove off of the lot she noticed some squeaking
> when going
> over bumps, I told her it sounded like shocks. She took
> it to the
> dealership, under waranty, and they tell her it is
> "something rubbing
> against the cradle"
>
> What the hell does that mean?? This is the rear
> suspention. You all
> think she should just return the car or what. does this
> sound like a
> big deal, I have no idea what a cradle is. Thanks all!
>

Re: Question for a Friend
 

Older Honda models were kinda known for squeaks/creaking
when getting into the car and going over bumps. Typically
they emanated from (1) the suspension coils rubbing against
their upper or lower mount; (2) the suspension control arm
bushings.

I never saw any sure solution to this. IIRC people tried
various lubricants, and they worked a few weeks, then the
noise would come back. But at least this approach would
narrow down the source and so alleviate concerns.

I put new control arm bushings in all around my old 91 Civic
this past spring. They now squeak/creak when temperatures
are lower. I confirmed the source by stopping the car
completely, and just pushing up and down on the front and
rear bumpers. You could do similar, or maybe also put the
car on ramps or jackstands and get someone to get close to
the suspect source.

groups.google the archive of this group and
rec.autos.makers.honda for more commentary.

Again, I am not sure if newer models have been showing this
problem or not. Just tossing this out until someone with
more experience with your friend's model chime in.

I suppose the cradle is some major supporting or generic
member of the car's frame or suspension.

"Brandon Scarbrough" <brandon_scarbrough@hotmail.com> wrote
> My Friend recently bought a 2003 Honda Accord EX.
>
> When she drove off of the lot she noticed some squeaking
> when going
> over bumps, I told her it sounded like shocks. She took
> it to the
> dealership, under waranty, and they tell her it is
> "something rubbing
> against the cradle"
>
> What the hell does that mean?? This is the rear
> suspention. You all
> think she should just return the car or what. does this
> sound like a
> big deal, I have no idea what a cradle is. Thanks all!
>

Re: Question for a FRiend
 

"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>
> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in
> news:4500D32C.7FA9A24E@GrumpyvilleNOT.com:
>
> >
> >
> > "'Curly Q. Links'" wrote:
>
> >>
> >> www.slhondaparts.com has diagrams, maybe you can 'spot the cradle'.
> >>
> >> 'Curly'
> >
> >
> >
> > Ain't a cradle the thing that fell out of the treetop after the wind
> > began to blow???
> >
>
> You're putting me to sleep... zzzzzzzzzzzz
>
>


Bump your head when hitting the dirt??

<G>

JT

Re: Question for a FRiend
 

"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>
> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in
> news:4500D32C.7FA9A24E@GrumpyvilleNOT.com:
>
> >
> >
> > "'Curly Q. Links'" wrote:
>
> >>
> >> www.slhondaparts.com has diagrams, maybe you can 'spot the cradle'.
> >>
> >> 'Curly'
> >
> >
> >
> > Ain't a cradle the thing that fell out of the treetop after the wind
> > began to blow???
> >
>
> You're putting me to sleep... zzzzzzzzzzzz
>
>


Bump your head when hitting the dirt??

<G>

JT

Re: Question for a FRiend
 

"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>
> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in
> news:4500D32C.7FA9A24E@GrumpyvilleNOT.com:
>
> >
> >
> > "'Curly Q. Links'" wrote:
>
> >>
> >> www.slhondaparts.com has diagrams, maybe you can 'spot the cradle'.
> >>
> >> 'Curly'
> >
> >
> >
> > Ain't a cradle the thing that fell out of the treetop after the wind
> > began to blow???
> >
>
> You're putting me to sleep... zzzzzzzzzzzz
>
>


Bump your head when hitting the dirt??

<G>

JT

Re: Question for a Friend
 

Usually, squeaks due to rubber degeneration can be temporarily squelched
(notice the usage of two "sq" woids) by squirting (oops, make that
three) conventional brake fluid on the offending items.

Of course as you mentioned, it would become part of a repetitive
maintenance routine...

JT




Elle wrote:
>
> Older Honda models were kinda known for squeaks/creaking
> when getting into the car and going over bumps. Typically
> they emanated from (1) the suspension coils rubbing against
> their upper or lower mount; (2) the suspension control arm
> bushings.
>
> I never saw any sure solution to this. IIRC people tried
> various lubricants, and they worked a few weeks, then the
> noise would come back. But at least this approach would
> narrow down the source and so alleviate concerns.
>
> I put new control arm bushings in all around my old 91 Civic
> this past spring. They now squeak/creak when temperatures
> are lower. I confirmed the source by stopping the car
> completely, and just pushing up and down on the front and
> rear bumpers. You could do similar, or maybe also put the
> car on ramps or jackstands and get someone to get close to
> the suspect source.
>
> groups.google the archive of this group and
> rec.autos.makers.honda for more commentary.
>
> Again, I am not sure if newer models have been showing this
> problem or not. Just tossing this out until someone with
> more experience with your friend's model chime in.
>
> I suppose the cradle is some major supporting or generic
> member of the car's frame or suspension.
>
> "Brandon Scarbrough" <brandon_scarbrough@hotmail.com> wrote
> > My Friend recently bought a 2003 Honda Accord EX.
> >
> > When she drove off of the lot she noticed some squeaking
> > when going
> > over bumps, I told her it sounded like shocks. She took
> > it to the
> > dealership, under waranty, and they tell her it is
> > "something rubbing
> > against the cradle"
> >
> > What the hell does that mean?? This is the rear
> > suspention. You all
> > think she should just return the car or what. does this
> > sound like a
> > big deal, I have no idea what a cradle is. Thanks all!
> >

Re: Question for a Friend
 

Usually, squeaks due to rubber degeneration can be temporarily squelched
(notice the usage of two "sq" woids) by squirting (oops, make that
three) conventional brake fluid on the offending items.

Of course as you mentioned, it would become part of a repetitive
maintenance routine...

JT




Elle wrote:
>
> Older Honda models were kinda known for squeaks/creaking
> when getting into the car and going over bumps. Typically
> they emanated from (1) the suspension coils rubbing against
> their upper or lower mount; (2) the suspension control arm
> bushings.
>
> I never saw any sure solution to this. IIRC people tried
> various lubricants, and they worked a few weeks, then the
> noise would come back. But at least this approach would
> narrow down the source and so alleviate concerns.
>
> I put new control arm bushings in all around my old 91 Civic
> this past spring. They now squeak/creak when temperatures
> are lower. I confirmed the source by stopping the car
> completely, and just pushing up and down on the front and
> rear bumpers. You could do similar, or maybe also put the
> car on ramps or jackstands and get someone to get close to
> the suspect source.
>
> groups.google the archive of this group and
> rec.autos.makers.honda for more commentary.
>
> Again, I am not sure if newer models have been showing this
> problem or not. Just tossing this out until someone with
> more experience with your friend's model chime in.
>
> I suppose the cradle is some major supporting or generic
> member of the car's frame or suspension.
>
> "Brandon Scarbrough" <brandon_scarbrough@hotmail.com> wrote
> > My Friend recently bought a 2003 Honda Accord EX.
> >
> > When she drove off of the lot she noticed some squeaking
> > when going
> > over bumps, I told her it sounded like shocks. She took
> > it to the
> > dealership, under waranty, and they tell her it is
> > "something rubbing
> > against the cradle"
> >
> > What the hell does that mean?? This is the rear
> > suspention. You all
> > think she should just return the car or what. does this
> > sound like a
> > big deal, I have no idea what a cradle is. Thanks all!
> >

Re: Question for a Friend
 

Usually, squeaks due to rubber degeneration can be temporarily squelched
(notice the usage of two "sq" woids) by squirting (oops, make that
three) conventional brake fluid on the offending items.

Of course as you mentioned, it would become part of a repetitive
maintenance routine...

JT




Elle wrote:
>
> Older Honda models were kinda known for squeaks/creaking
> when getting into the car and going over bumps. Typically
> they emanated from (1) the suspension coils rubbing against
> their upper or lower mount; (2) the suspension control arm
> bushings.
>
> I never saw any sure solution to this. IIRC people tried
> various lubricants, and they worked a few weeks, then the
> noise would come back. But at least this approach would
> narrow down the source and so alleviate concerns.
>
> I put new control arm bushings in all around my old 91 Civic
> this past spring. They now squeak/creak when temperatures
> are lower. I confirmed the source by stopping the car
> completely, and just pushing up and down on the front and
> rear bumpers. You could do similar, or maybe also put the
> car on ramps or jackstands and get someone to get close to
> the suspect source.
>
> groups.google the archive of this group and
> rec.autos.makers.honda for more commentary.
>
> Again, I am not sure if newer models have been showing this
> problem or not. Just tossing this out until someone with
> more experience with your friend's model chime in.
>
> I suppose the cradle is some major supporting or generic
> member of the car's frame or suspension.
>
> "Brandon Scarbrough" <brandon_scarbrough@hotmail.com> wrote
> > My Friend recently bought a 2003 Honda Accord EX.
> >
> > When she drove off of the lot she noticed some squeaking
> > when going
> > over bumps, I told her it sounded like shocks. She took
> > it to the
> > dealership, under waranty, and they tell her it is
> > "something rubbing
> > against the cradle"
> >
> > What the hell does that mean?? This is the rear
> > suspention. You all
> > think she should just return the car or what. does this
> > sound like a
> > big deal, I have no idea what a cradle is. Thanks all!
> >

Re: Question for a Friend
 

I personally don't tarry over the squeaks. Your recent post
re slapping on the cheapest tires available on old beater
cars like yours and mine made perfect sense, with regard to
not fretting over the little stuff.

My 91 Civic deserves the very best when it comes to engine
maintenance AFAIC, but for the cosmetic, superficial stuff,
it and I will both laugh to the bank (er, stock market). 45+
doggoned miles per gallon with the cruise control set at 65
mph, on a 15-year-old car. Damn I'm good. (All right, you
fellows and the occasional woman at the newsgroup are good.)

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote
> Usually, squeaks due to rubber degeneration can be
> temporarily squelched
> (notice the usage of two "sq" woids) by squirting (oops,
> make that
> three) conventional brake fluid on the offending items.
>
> Of course as you mentioned, it would become part of a
> repetitive
> maintenance routine...
>

Re: Question for a Friend
 

I personally don't tarry over the squeaks. Your recent post
re slapping on the cheapest tires available on old beater
cars like yours and mine made perfect sense, with regard to
not fretting over the little stuff.

My 91 Civic deserves the very best when it comes to engine
maintenance AFAIC, but for the cosmetic, superficial stuff,
it and I will both laugh to the bank (er, stock market). 45+
doggoned miles per gallon with the cruise control set at 65
mph, on a 15-year-old car. Damn I'm good. (All right, you
fellows and the occasional woman at the newsgroup are good.)

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote
> Usually, squeaks due to rubber degeneration can be
> temporarily squelched
> (notice the usage of two "sq" woids) by squirting (oops,
> make that
> three) conventional brake fluid on the offending items.
>
> Of course as you mentioned, it would become part of a
> repetitive
> maintenance routine...
>

Re: Question for a Friend
 

I personally don't tarry over the squeaks. Your recent post
re slapping on the cheapest tires available on old beater
cars like yours and mine made perfect sense, with regard to
not fretting over the little stuff.

My 91 Civic deserves the very best when it comes to engine
maintenance AFAIC, but for the cosmetic, superficial stuff,
it and I will both laugh to the bank (er, stock market). 45+
doggoned miles per gallon with the cruise control set at 65
mph, on a 15-year-old car. Damn I'm good. (All right, you
fellows and the occasional woman at the newsgroup are good.)

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote
> Usually, squeaks due to rubber degeneration can be
> temporarily squelched
> (notice the usage of two "sq" woids) by squirting (oops,
> make that
> three) conventional brake fluid on the offending items.
>
> Of course as you mentioned, it would become part of a
> repetitive
> maintenance routine...
>

Re: Question for a FRiend
 

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
> "'Curly Q. Links'" wrote:
>>
>> Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
>>>
>>> My Friend recently bought a 2003 Honda Accord EX.
>>>
>>> When she drove off of the lot she noticed some squeaking when going
>>> over bumps, I told her it sounded like shocks. She took it to the
>>> dealership, under waranty, and they tell her it is "something
>>> rubbing against the cradle"
>>>
>>> What the hell does that mean?? This is the rear suspention. You
>>> all think she should just return the car or what. does this sound
>>> like a big deal, I have no idea what a cradle is. Thanks all!
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> www.slhondaparts.com has diagrams, maybe you can 'spot the cradle'.
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
>
>
> Ain't a cradle the thing that fell out of the treetop after the wind
> began to blow???
>
> JT

That was actually after the bow breaks.......

Re: Question for a FRiend
 

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
> "'Curly Q. Links'" wrote:
>>
>> Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
>>>
>>> My Friend recently bought a 2003 Honda Accord EX.
>>>
>>> When she drove off of the lot she noticed some squeaking when going
>>> over bumps, I told her it sounded like shocks. She took it to the
>>> dealership, under waranty, and they tell her it is "something
>>> rubbing against the cradle"
>>>
>>> What the hell does that mean?? This is the rear suspention. You
>>> all think she should just return the car or what. does this sound
>>> like a big deal, I have no idea what a cradle is. Thanks all!
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> www.slhondaparts.com has diagrams, maybe you can 'spot the cradle'.
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
>
>
> Ain't a cradle the thing that fell out of the treetop after the wind
> began to blow???
>
> JT

That was actually after the bow breaks.......