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Trident 08-12-2004 07:59 AM

Questions after changed the timing belt for my 96 Accord
 
Hi there,
I got a couple of questions after changed the timing belt and water bump
yesterday.
1. How to tell the replaced timing belt is still in good condition or not? I
checked old timing belt, it is still like a new one to my eyes.
2. After replaced the timing belt, am I suppose to get a little more power
when driving? Or it takes few days to let the new belt get matched with the
car?
3. After changed the timing belt, a new problem occured that when the engine
is over 2500rpm, I can feel the accelerate pad is slightly shaking, what
could be the problem? It does not have this problem before. Just wondering
if the mechanic did something wrong or this is not a real problem for a new
belt?

Thanks!
Trident



John Ings 08-12-2004 08:51 AM

Re: Questions after changed the timing belt for my 96 Accord
 
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 07:59:37 -0400, "Trident"
<trident9440@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi there,
>I got a couple of questions after changed the timing belt and water bump
>yesterday.
>1. How to tell the replaced timing belt is still in good condition or not? I
>checked old timing belt, it is still like a new one to my eyes.


That's normal. Despite what the shop manual says, you can't tell an
old belt that's about to break from a brand new one.

>2. After replaced the timing belt, am I suppose to get a little more power
>when driving?


No.

>3. After changed the timing belt, a new problem occured that when the engine
>is over 2500rpm, I can feel the accelerate pad is slightly shaking, what
>could be the problem? It does not have this problem before. Just wondering
>if the mechanic did something wrong or this is not a real problem for a new
>belt?


I think you're just suffering from a case of automotive hypochondria.
:-)



John Ings 08-12-2004 08:51 AM

Re: Questions after changed the timing belt for my 96 Accord
 
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 07:59:37 -0400, "Trident"
<trident9440@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi there,
>I got a couple of questions after changed the timing belt and water bump
>yesterday.
>1. How to tell the replaced timing belt is still in good condition or not? I
>checked old timing belt, it is still like a new one to my eyes.


That's normal. Despite what the shop manual says, you can't tell an
old belt that's about to break from a brand new one.

>2. After replaced the timing belt, am I suppose to get a little more power
>when driving?


No.

>3. After changed the timing belt, a new problem occured that when the engine
>is over 2500rpm, I can feel the accelerate pad is slightly shaking, what
>could be the problem? It does not have this problem before. Just wondering
>if the mechanic did something wrong or this is not a real problem for a new
>belt?


I think you're just suffering from a case of automotive hypochondria.
:-)



Caroline 08-12-2004 10:54 AM

Re: Questions after changed the timing belt for my 96 Accord
 
"Trident" <trident9440@hotmail.com> wrote
> Hi there,
> I got a couple of questions after changed the timing belt and water bump
> yesterday.
> 1. How to tell the replaced timing belt is still in good condition or not? I
> checked old timing belt, it is still like a new one to my eyes.


I think John Ings' input on this is important, of course, since IIRC from his
web sites it reflects hands on experience (and probably a lot of it). To build
experience and fully confirm John's point, I also feel it may be worth
considering the inspection procedure at
http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/CivicManual/pdf/6-20.pdf

I expect the steps in the link above for visual inspection of the TB would be
good for most any 1990s Honda's timing belt.

If you're worried about whether the belt even needed replacing, I'd completely
trust your owner's manual specs. for time and mileage on this.

> 2. After replaced the timing belt, am I suppose to get a little more power
> when driving?


I've never noticed this with my 1991 Civic's new timing belts.

> Or it takes few days to let the new belt get matched with the
> car?


Never noticed this.

> 3. After changed the timing belt, a new problem occured that when the engine
> is over 2500rpm, I can feel the accelerate pad is slightly shaking, what
> could be the problem? It does not have this problem before. Just wondering
> if the mechanic did something wrong or this is not a real problem for a new
> belt?


Just curious: Did the mechanic change the TB tensioner (a.k.a. "adjuster" at
online parts sites like Majestic's), too? The pros often recommend this by at
least the third timing belt change, IIRC.

Otherwise, I don't have anything particularly intelligent to add on this. I've
just noted a number of posts that say that, for example, a new tensioner with an
old belt is a bad idea. (Not that this is your situation.) Or a new belt with an
old tensioner might cause some problems, IIRC.

Caroline
Exactly one timing belt DIY remove and re-install under my belt.



Caroline 08-12-2004 10:54 AM

Re: Questions after changed the timing belt for my 96 Accord
 
"Trident" <trident9440@hotmail.com> wrote
> Hi there,
> I got a couple of questions after changed the timing belt and water bump
> yesterday.
> 1. How to tell the replaced timing belt is still in good condition or not? I
> checked old timing belt, it is still like a new one to my eyes.


I think John Ings' input on this is important, of course, since IIRC from his
web sites it reflects hands on experience (and probably a lot of it). To build
experience and fully confirm John's point, I also feel it may be worth
considering the inspection procedure at
http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/CivicManual/pdf/6-20.pdf

I expect the steps in the link above for visual inspection of the TB would be
good for most any 1990s Honda's timing belt.

If you're worried about whether the belt even needed replacing, I'd completely
trust your owner's manual specs. for time and mileage on this.

> 2. After replaced the timing belt, am I suppose to get a little more power
> when driving?


I've never noticed this with my 1991 Civic's new timing belts.

> Or it takes few days to let the new belt get matched with the
> car?


Never noticed this.

> 3. After changed the timing belt, a new problem occured that when the engine
> is over 2500rpm, I can feel the accelerate pad is slightly shaking, what
> could be the problem? It does not have this problem before. Just wondering
> if the mechanic did something wrong or this is not a real problem for a new
> belt?


Just curious: Did the mechanic change the TB tensioner (a.k.a. "adjuster" at
online parts sites like Majestic's), too? The pros often recommend this by at
least the third timing belt change, IIRC.

Otherwise, I don't have anything particularly intelligent to add on this. I've
just noted a number of posts that say that, for example, a new tensioner with an
old belt is a bad idea. (Not that this is your situation.) Or a new belt with an
old tensioner might cause some problems, IIRC.

Caroline
Exactly one timing belt DIY remove and re-install under my belt.



Chip Stein 08-14-2004 09:10 PM

Re: Questions after changed the timing belt for my 96 Accord
 
"Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<VwLSc.18502$9Y6.5203@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net>...
> "Trident" <trident9440@hotmail.com> wrote
> > Hi there,
> > I got a couple of questions after changed the timing belt and water bump
> > yesterday.
> > 1. How to tell the replaced timing belt is still in good condition or not? I
> > checked old timing belt, it is still like a new one to my eyes.

>
>> > 3. After changed the timing belt, a new problem occured that when the engine

> > is over 2500rpm, I can feel the accelerate pad is slightly shaking, what
> > could be the problem? It does not have this problem before. Just wondering
> > if the mechanic did something wrong or this is not a real problem for a new
> > belt?

> Exactly one timing belt DIY remove and re-install under my belt.


they have the balance shafts out of time. bad install.
Chip

Chip Stein 08-14-2004 09:10 PM

Re: Questions after changed the timing belt for my 96 Accord
 
"Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<VwLSc.18502$9Y6.5203@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net>...
> "Trident" <trident9440@hotmail.com> wrote
> > Hi there,
> > I got a couple of questions after changed the timing belt and water bump
> > yesterday.
> > 1. How to tell the replaced timing belt is still in good condition or not? I
> > checked old timing belt, it is still like a new one to my eyes.

>
>> > 3. After changed the timing belt, a new problem occured that when the engine

> > is over 2500rpm, I can feel the accelerate pad is slightly shaking, what
> > could be the problem? It does not have this problem before. Just wondering
> > if the mechanic did something wrong or this is not a real problem for a new
> > belt?

> Exactly one timing belt DIY remove and re-install under my belt.


they have the balance shafts out of time. bad install.
Chip


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