Questions on CV Joint Boots
Hello,
With the previous three new cars I've owned, all front-wheel drive, I drove them well past 100K mi. with each of them. But with all of them, I've had to replace the CV joints for the same reason: the boots dry out and crack, the grease comes out, and the dirt gets in. Now, with my relatively new car, I wish to be able to avoid or prevent that from happening again, so I did some research on CV joint maintenance, and everything I've read talked about what to do when the boots crack. Nothing about how to prolong their life or prevent those boots from cracking. The cost of the parts really isn't a problem, but you guys probably know, it's a very labour intensive and time consuming repaire. What's rather preplexing to me is that I read often how some people who've put on >150K mi. on their previous cars, some having owned about 5 or 6 different cars in the past and even living in northeast, and never had a CV joint problem due to the boots cracking or failing, let alone the CV joints itself going bad. So, my question is, does anyone have a time proven or a definitive way to prevent the boots from failing? I read how some would liberally apply silicone spray on the CV boots and other boots everytime they changed the oil. Would that be a good way to prolong the life of or prevent the boots from cracking prematurely? Any other suggestions or insight into this would be greatly aprpciated. Thanks for your time and courtesy. |
Re: Questions on CV Joint Boots
"Crikey Schmikey" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:p1lisvkl99v0qpe7n2l4cp7hj5b34fujrv@4ax.com... > Hello, > > With the previous three new cars I've owned, all front-wheel drive, I > drove them well past 100K mi. with each of them. But with all of > them, I've had to replace the CV joints for the same reason: the boots > dry out and crack, the grease comes out, and the dirt gets in. > > The cost of the parts really isn't a problem, but you guys probably > know, it's a very labour intensive and time consuming repaire. > Just about cheaper to replace the whole shaft with a rebuilt... when you figure the time it takes to actually put a new boot on. Rob |
Re: Questions on CV Joint Boots
"Crikey Schmikey" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:p1lisvkl99v0qpe7n2l4cp7hj5b34fujrv@4ax.com... > Hello, > > With the previous three new cars I've owned, all front-wheel drive, I > drove them well past 100K mi. with each of them. But with all of > them, I've had to replace the CV joints for the same reason: the boots > dry out and crack, the grease comes out, and the dirt gets in. > > The cost of the parts really isn't a problem, but you guys probably > know, it's a very labour intensive and time consuming repaire. > Just about cheaper to replace the whole shaft with a rebuilt... when you figure the time it takes to actually put a new boot on. Rob |
Re: Questions on CV Joint Boots
"Crikey Schmikey" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:p1lisvkl99v0qpe7n2l4cp7hj5b34fujrv@4ax.com... > Hello, > > With the previous three new cars I've owned, all front-wheel drive, I > drove them well past 100K mi. with each of them. But with all of > them, I've had to replace the CV joints for the same reason: the boots > dry out and crack, the grease comes out, and the dirt gets in. > > The cost of the parts really isn't a problem, but you guys probably > know, it's a very labour intensive and time consuming repaire. > Just about cheaper to replace the whole shaft with a rebuilt... when you figure the time it takes to actually put a new boot on. Rob |
Re: Questions on CV Joint Boots
"Crikey Schmikey" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:p1lisvkl99v0qpe7n2l4cp7hj5b34fujrv@4ax.com... > Hello, > > With the previous three new cars I've owned, all front-wheel drive, I > drove them well past 100K mi. with each of them. But with all of > them, I've had to replace the CV joints for the same reason: the boots > dry out and crack, the grease comes out, and the dirt gets in. > > The cost of the parts really isn't a problem, but you guys probably > know, it's a very labour intensive and time consuming repaire. > Just about cheaper to replace the whole shaft with a rebuilt... when you figure the time it takes to actually put a new boot on. Rob |
Re: Questions on CV Joint Boots
-- Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies! "becida" <becida@juno.com> wrote in message news:vsli9b8o8aj59@corp.supernews.com... > > "Crikey Schmikey" <no@spam.com> wrote in message > news:p1lisvkl99v0qpe7n2l4cp7hj5b34fujrv@4ax.com... > > Hello, > > > > With the previous three new cars I've owned, all front-wheel drive, I > > drove them well past 100K mi. with each of them. But with all of > > them, I've had to replace the CV joints for the same reason: the boots > > dry out and crack, the grease comes out, and the dirt gets in. > > > > The cost of the parts really isn't a problem, but you guys probably > > know, it's a very labour intensive and time consuming repaire. > > > > Just about cheaper to replace the whole shaft with a rebuilt... when you > figure the time it takes to actually put a new boot on. > > Rob If the cv joint itself is damaged it is cheaper and easier to replace the cv shaft. Parts for the joint rebuild usually cost more than the entire (remanufactured axle) and the labor involved is significantly less also. While I worked at an automotive shop, it was always our suggestion to do the whole axle when we found that the joint was bad. Of course, this does not apply where only the boot is being replaced. Dave D |
Re: Questions on CV Joint Boots
-- Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies! "becida" <becida@juno.com> wrote in message news:vsli9b8o8aj59@corp.supernews.com... > > "Crikey Schmikey" <no@spam.com> wrote in message > news:p1lisvkl99v0qpe7n2l4cp7hj5b34fujrv@4ax.com... > > Hello, > > > > With the previous three new cars I've owned, all front-wheel drive, I > > drove them well past 100K mi. with each of them. But with all of > > them, I've had to replace the CV joints for the same reason: the boots > > dry out and crack, the grease comes out, and the dirt gets in. > > > > The cost of the parts really isn't a problem, but you guys probably > > know, it's a very labour intensive and time consuming repaire. > > > > Just about cheaper to replace the whole shaft with a rebuilt... when you > figure the time it takes to actually put a new boot on. > > Rob If the cv joint itself is damaged it is cheaper and easier to replace the cv shaft. Parts for the joint rebuild usually cost more than the entire (remanufactured axle) and the labor involved is significantly less also. While I worked at an automotive shop, it was always our suggestion to do the whole axle when we found that the joint was bad. Of course, this does not apply where only the boot is being replaced. Dave D |
Re: Questions on CV Joint Boots
-- Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies! "becida" <becida@juno.com> wrote in message news:vsli9b8o8aj59@corp.supernews.com... > > "Crikey Schmikey" <no@spam.com> wrote in message > news:p1lisvkl99v0qpe7n2l4cp7hj5b34fujrv@4ax.com... > > Hello, > > > > With the previous three new cars I've owned, all front-wheel drive, I > > drove them well past 100K mi. with each of them. But with all of > > them, I've had to replace the CV joints for the same reason: the boots > > dry out and crack, the grease comes out, and the dirt gets in. > > > > The cost of the parts really isn't a problem, but you guys probably > > know, it's a very labour intensive and time consuming repaire. > > > > Just about cheaper to replace the whole shaft with a rebuilt... when you > figure the time it takes to actually put a new boot on. > > Rob If the cv joint itself is damaged it is cheaper and easier to replace the cv shaft. Parts for the joint rebuild usually cost more than the entire (remanufactured axle) and the labor involved is significantly less also. While I worked at an automotive shop, it was always our suggestion to do the whole axle when we found that the joint was bad. Of course, this does not apply where only the boot is being replaced. Dave D |
Re: Questions on CV Joint Boots
-- Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies! "becida" <becida@juno.com> wrote in message news:vsli9b8o8aj59@corp.supernews.com... > > "Crikey Schmikey" <no@spam.com> wrote in message > news:p1lisvkl99v0qpe7n2l4cp7hj5b34fujrv@4ax.com... > > Hello, > > > > With the previous three new cars I've owned, all front-wheel drive, I > > drove them well past 100K mi. with each of them. But with all of > > them, I've had to replace the CV joints for the same reason: the boots > > dry out and crack, the grease comes out, and the dirt gets in. > > > > The cost of the parts really isn't a problem, but you guys probably > > know, it's a very labour intensive and time consuming repaire. > > > > Just about cheaper to replace the whole shaft with a rebuilt... when you > figure the time it takes to actually put a new boot on. > > Rob If the cv joint itself is damaged it is cheaper and easier to replace the cv shaft. Parts for the joint rebuild usually cost more than the entire (remanufactured axle) and the labor involved is significantly less also. While I worked at an automotive shop, it was always our suggestion to do the whole axle when we found that the joint was bad. Of course, this does not apply where only the boot is being replaced. Dave D |
Re: Questions on CV Joint Boots
.......> So, my question is, does anyone have a time proven or a definitive
way > to prevent the boots from failing? I read how some would liberally > apply silicone spray on the CV boots and other boots everytime they > changed the oil. Would that be a good way to prolong the life of or > prevent the boots from cracking prematurely? Any substance that will prolong the life of rubber, or anything that will help it retain it's flexibility and elasticity should help somewhat. Not sure about silicone -maybe. Armorall might be a good one to try. CV joint boots are heavy thick rubber, and you're only applying the protectant to the outside surface, so in the long run it may extend the life of the boots a little, but they are still likely to age and crack. The problem with CV joint and boot maintenence is that most boots are made tubular and thus become very labor intensive to replace. A boot that could be taken off simply by removing the clamps on either end would then become a regular maintenance item you replace very so many miles based on the estimated life of the rubber, driving conditions, etc. This would also allow regreasing of the joint itself if necessary, and probably make CV joints last the life of the vehicle. -- Bob "Crikey Schmikey" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:p1lisvkl99v0qpe7n2l4cp7hj5b34fujrv@4ax.com... > Hello, > > With the previous three new cars I've owned, all front-wheel drive, I > drove them well past 100K mi. with each of them. But with all of > them, I've had to replace the CV joints for the same reason: the boots > dry out and crack, the grease comes out, and the dirt gets in. > > Now, with my relatively new car, I wish to be able to avoid or prevent > that from happening again, so I did some research on CV joint > maintenance, and everything I've read talked about what to do when the > boots crack. Nothing about how to prolong their life or prevent those > boots from cracking. > > The cost of the parts really isn't a problem, but you guys probably > know, it's a very labour intensive and time consuming repaire. > > What's rather preplexing to me is that I read often how some people > who've put on >150K mi. on their previous cars, some having owned > about 5 or 6 different cars in the past and even living in northeast, > and never had a CV joint problem due to the boots cracking or failing, > let alone the CV joints itself going bad. > > So, my question is, does anyone have a time proven or a definitive way > to prevent the boots from failing? I read how some would liberally > apply silicone spray on the CV boots and other boots everytime they > changed the oil. Would that be a good way to prolong the life of or > prevent the boots from cracking prematurely? > > Any other suggestions or insight into this would be greatly > aprpciated. Thanks for your time and courtesy. |
Re: Questions on CV Joint Boots
.......> So, my question is, does anyone have a time proven or a definitive
way > to prevent the boots from failing? I read how some would liberally > apply silicone spray on the CV boots and other boots everytime they > changed the oil. Would that be a good way to prolong the life of or > prevent the boots from cracking prematurely? Any substance that will prolong the life of rubber, or anything that will help it retain it's flexibility and elasticity should help somewhat. Not sure about silicone -maybe. Armorall might be a good one to try. CV joint boots are heavy thick rubber, and you're only applying the protectant to the outside surface, so in the long run it may extend the life of the boots a little, but they are still likely to age and crack. The problem with CV joint and boot maintenence is that most boots are made tubular and thus become very labor intensive to replace. A boot that could be taken off simply by removing the clamps on either end would then become a regular maintenance item you replace very so many miles based on the estimated life of the rubber, driving conditions, etc. This would also allow regreasing of the joint itself if necessary, and probably make CV joints last the life of the vehicle. -- Bob "Crikey Schmikey" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:p1lisvkl99v0qpe7n2l4cp7hj5b34fujrv@4ax.com... > Hello, > > With the previous three new cars I've owned, all front-wheel drive, I > drove them well past 100K mi. with each of them. But with all of > them, I've had to replace the CV joints for the same reason: the boots > dry out and crack, the grease comes out, and the dirt gets in. > > Now, with my relatively new car, I wish to be able to avoid or prevent > that from happening again, so I did some research on CV joint > maintenance, and everything I've read talked about what to do when the > boots crack. Nothing about how to prolong their life or prevent those > boots from cracking. > > The cost of the parts really isn't a problem, but you guys probably > know, it's a very labour intensive and time consuming repaire. > > What's rather preplexing to me is that I read often how some people > who've put on >150K mi. on their previous cars, some having owned > about 5 or 6 different cars in the past and even living in northeast, > and never had a CV joint problem due to the boots cracking or failing, > let alone the CV joints itself going bad. > > So, my question is, does anyone have a time proven or a definitive way > to prevent the boots from failing? I read how some would liberally > apply silicone spray on the CV boots and other boots everytime they > changed the oil. Would that be a good way to prolong the life of or > prevent the boots from cracking prematurely? > > Any other suggestions or insight into this would be greatly > aprpciated. Thanks for your time and courtesy. |
Re: Questions on CV Joint Boots
.......> So, my question is, does anyone have a time proven or a definitive
way > to prevent the boots from failing? I read how some would liberally > apply silicone spray on the CV boots and other boots everytime they > changed the oil. Would that be a good way to prolong the life of or > prevent the boots from cracking prematurely? Any substance that will prolong the life of rubber, or anything that will help it retain it's flexibility and elasticity should help somewhat. Not sure about silicone -maybe. Armorall might be a good one to try. CV joint boots are heavy thick rubber, and you're only applying the protectant to the outside surface, so in the long run it may extend the life of the boots a little, but they are still likely to age and crack. The problem with CV joint and boot maintenence is that most boots are made tubular and thus become very labor intensive to replace. A boot that could be taken off simply by removing the clamps on either end would then become a regular maintenance item you replace very so many miles based on the estimated life of the rubber, driving conditions, etc. This would also allow regreasing of the joint itself if necessary, and probably make CV joints last the life of the vehicle. -- Bob "Crikey Schmikey" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:p1lisvkl99v0qpe7n2l4cp7hj5b34fujrv@4ax.com... > Hello, > > With the previous three new cars I've owned, all front-wheel drive, I > drove them well past 100K mi. with each of them. But with all of > them, I've had to replace the CV joints for the same reason: the boots > dry out and crack, the grease comes out, and the dirt gets in. > > Now, with my relatively new car, I wish to be able to avoid or prevent > that from happening again, so I did some research on CV joint > maintenance, and everything I've read talked about what to do when the > boots crack. Nothing about how to prolong their life or prevent those > boots from cracking. > > The cost of the parts really isn't a problem, but you guys probably > know, it's a very labour intensive and time consuming repaire. > > What's rather preplexing to me is that I read often how some people > who've put on >150K mi. on their previous cars, some having owned > about 5 or 6 different cars in the past and even living in northeast, > and never had a CV joint problem due to the boots cracking or failing, > let alone the CV joints itself going bad. > > So, my question is, does anyone have a time proven or a definitive way > to prevent the boots from failing? I read how some would liberally > apply silicone spray on the CV boots and other boots everytime they > changed the oil. Would that be a good way to prolong the life of or > prevent the boots from cracking prematurely? > > Any other suggestions or insight into this would be greatly > aprpciated. Thanks for your time and courtesy. |
Re: Questions on CV Joint Boots
.......> So, my question is, does anyone have a time proven or a definitive
way > to prevent the boots from failing? I read how some would liberally > apply silicone spray on the CV boots and other boots everytime they > changed the oil. Would that be a good way to prolong the life of or > prevent the boots from cracking prematurely? Any substance that will prolong the life of rubber, or anything that will help it retain it's flexibility and elasticity should help somewhat. Not sure about silicone -maybe. Armorall might be a good one to try. CV joint boots are heavy thick rubber, and you're only applying the protectant to the outside surface, so in the long run it may extend the life of the boots a little, but they are still likely to age and crack. The problem with CV joint and boot maintenence is that most boots are made tubular and thus become very labor intensive to replace. A boot that could be taken off simply by removing the clamps on either end would then become a regular maintenance item you replace very so many miles based on the estimated life of the rubber, driving conditions, etc. This would also allow regreasing of the joint itself if necessary, and probably make CV joints last the life of the vehicle. -- Bob "Crikey Schmikey" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:p1lisvkl99v0qpe7n2l4cp7hj5b34fujrv@4ax.com... > Hello, > > With the previous three new cars I've owned, all front-wheel drive, I > drove them well past 100K mi. with each of them. But with all of > them, I've had to replace the CV joints for the same reason: the boots > dry out and crack, the grease comes out, and the dirt gets in. > > Now, with my relatively new car, I wish to be able to avoid or prevent > that from happening again, so I did some research on CV joint > maintenance, and everything I've read talked about what to do when the > boots crack. Nothing about how to prolong their life or prevent those > boots from cracking. > > The cost of the parts really isn't a problem, but you guys probably > know, it's a very labour intensive and time consuming repaire. > > What's rather preplexing to me is that I read often how some people > who've put on >150K mi. on their previous cars, some having owned > about 5 or 6 different cars in the past and even living in northeast, > and never had a CV joint problem due to the boots cracking or failing, > let alone the CV joints itself going bad. > > So, my question is, does anyone have a time proven or a definitive way > to prevent the boots from failing? I read how some would liberally > apply silicone spray on the CV boots and other boots everytime they > changed the oil. Would that be a good way to prolong the life of or > prevent the boots from cracking prematurely? > > Any other suggestions or insight into this would be greatly > aprpciated. Thanks for your time and courtesy. |
Re: Questions on CV Joint Boots
"Dave Dodson" <ddodson@gci.net> wrote in message news:vslv2tofn69f45@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > Just about cheaper to replace the whole shaft with a rebuilt... when you > > figure the time it takes to actually put a new boot on. > > > > Rob > > If the cv joint itself is damaged it is cheaper and easier to replace the cv > shaft. Parts for the joint rebuild usually cost more than the entire > (remanufactured axle) and the labor involved is significantly less also. > While I worked at an automotive shop, it was always our suggestion to do the > whole axle when we found that the joint was bad. Of course, this does not > apply where only the boot is being replaced. > > Dave D > As I recall it's about $130 for a reman whole shaft & that comes with a guarantee. I guess it depends on the cost of the labor to take the joint off, clean, inspect, lube and put it back on the shaft with a new boot. The labor for taking the drive shaft out and putting it back is the same either way. Rob |
Re: Questions on CV Joint Boots
"Dave Dodson" <ddodson@gci.net> wrote in message news:vslv2tofn69f45@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > Just about cheaper to replace the whole shaft with a rebuilt... when you > > figure the time it takes to actually put a new boot on. > > > > Rob > > If the cv joint itself is damaged it is cheaper and easier to replace the cv > shaft. Parts for the joint rebuild usually cost more than the entire > (remanufactured axle) and the labor involved is significantly less also. > While I worked at an automotive shop, it was always our suggestion to do the > whole axle when we found that the joint was bad. Of course, this does not > apply where only the boot is being replaced. > > Dave D > As I recall it's about $130 for a reman whole shaft & that comes with a guarantee. I guess it depends on the cost of the labor to take the joint off, clean, inspect, lube and put it back on the shaft with a new boot. The labor for taking the drive shaft out and putting it back is the same either way. Rob |
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