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Joe 02-07-2008 10:14 PM

Re: Radar Detector Recomendation
 
On 2008-02-07, Butch Haynes <Butch@huntsville> wrote:
>
> Lemme see if I got this right. Based on the fact that the one time your
> radar detector went off you weren't speeding, you recommend that I should
> install a device that tells me my exact location instead of warning me of a
> cop's speed gun? Huh??


The problem is that they do not warn you all that well. If the cop is
using K, Ka or X Band radar, you MIGHT get a slight warning if the cop
just has the gun running full-time. BUT, if he is using it properly
(instant on), you have no chance, as he won't clock you until he
observes that you might be speeding.

Also, if he is using Laser (lidar), you get no warning EVER. If the
detector goes off, it means he just clocked your car, and already
knows exactly how fast you are going.

And if they are monitoring speed from the air, you'll never get an
alert, but you'll still get a ticket.

If after all that, you still want to piss away money, buy the best, as
it is your only chance of getting some semblance of early warning in
scenario 1...


--
Joe - Linux User #449481/Ubuntu User #19733
joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X

rjdriver 02-07-2008 10:19 PM

Re: Radar Detector Recomendation
 

"Butch Haynes" <Butch@huntsville> wrote in message
news:RbSdnUDnXeKG2jbanZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> For the rest of the year, I'll be on the interstate for a weekly 500 mile
> round trip-- and want to get a radar detector. They seem to range from $50
> on up to$500 or more.
>
> I'm not interested in over working my credit card for "the very best" one.
> Nor do I need one that gives me the cop's name and what he had for
> breakfast when he lights me up. I just want a little advance warning of
> cops in the area if the old needle creeps up too high-- real easy to do in
> my '07 Accord EX-L Sedan 6 cyl.
>
> So where's the most bang for the buck/sweet spot to buy-- and any specific
> recommendations?
>


Amazing how many people waste their time, and yours, and newsgroup space,
responding but NOT answering your question. A few years ago I would have
recommended Bell, but now - Valentine is the only one worth considering.


Bob



Jeff 02-07-2008 10:39 PM

Re: Radar Detector Recomendation
 
rjdriver wrote:
> "Butch Haynes" <Butch@huntsville> wrote in message
> news:RbSdnUDnXeKG2jbanZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> For the rest of the year, I'll be on the interstate for a weekly 500 mile
>> round trip-- and want to get a radar detector. They seem to range from $50
>> on up to$500 or more.
>>
>> I'm not interested in over working my credit card for "the very best" one.
>> Nor do I need one that gives me the cop's name and what he had for
>> breakfast when he lights me up. I just want a little advance warning of
>> cops in the area if the old needle creeps up too high-- real easy to do in
>> my '07 Accord EX-L Sedan 6 cyl.
>>
>> So where's the most bang for the buck/sweet spot to buy-- and any specific
>> recommendations?
>>

>
> Amazing how many people waste their time, and yours, and newsgroup space,
> responding but NOT answering your question. A few years ago I would have
> recommended Bell, but now - Valentine is the only one worth considering.
>
>
> Bob


The OP asked for specific recommendations. I gave him mine: Don't speed.

jim beam 02-07-2008 10:57 PM

Re: Radar Detector Recomendation
 
Jeff wrote:
> rjdriver wrote:
>> "Butch Haynes" <Butch@huntsville> wrote in message
>> news:RbSdnUDnXeKG2jbanZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> For the rest of the year, I'll be on the interstate for a weekly 500
>>> mile round trip-- and want to get a radar detector. They seem to
>>> range from $50 on up to$500 or more.
>>>
>>> I'm not interested in over working my credit card for "the very best"
>>> one. Nor do I need one that gives me the cop's name and what he had
>>> for breakfast when he lights me up. I just want a little advance
>>> warning of cops in the area if the old needle creeps up too high--
>>> real easy to do in my '07 Accord EX-L Sedan 6 cyl.
>>>
>>> So where's the most bang for the buck/sweet spot to buy-- and any
>>> specific recommendations?
>>>

>>
>> Amazing how many people waste their time, and yours, and newsgroup
>> space, responding but NOT answering your question. A few years ago I
>> would have recommended Bell, but now - Valentine is the only one worth
>> considering.
>>
>>
>> Bob

>
> The OP asked for specific recommendations. I gave him mine: Don't speed.


given that the title of this thread is "radar detector recommendation",
we have to assume from your answer that "don't speed" is a brand. but i
can't find that one at my local radar detector retailer. do you care to
say where they are sold? sanctimoniousclaptrap.com perhaps?

Elmo P. Shagnasty 02-07-2008 11:11 PM

Re: Radar Detector Recomendation
 
In article <slrnfqnic7.pdr.joe@barada.griffincs.local>,
Joe <joe@nospam.hits-buffalo.com> wrote:

> The problem is that they do not warn you all that well. If the cop is
> using K, Ka or X Band radar, you MIGHT get a slight warning if the cop
> just has the gun running full-time. BUT, if he is using it properly
> (instant on), you have no chance, as he won't clock you until he
> observes that you might be speeding.


But if you're driving properly--anonymously--and letting the rabbits run
ahead, you get the warning from the cop hitting the idiots and losers
who are happy to rabbit for you. Then you can safely slow down from
75-80 back to 65-70 before you go past that particular cop.

This works whether the cop is using instant on or is running it full
time.

Speeding without tickets isn't just about a radar detector; it's a
system. Please note that the above works only when you're doing it
properly, in a pack. If you're out on the highway alone with little
traffic, with nowhere to hide and no rabbits ahead, just slow down.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 02-07-2008 11:12 PM

Re: Radar Detector Recomendation
 
In article <47abbc72$0$30681$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Polfus" <nostringscouldsecureyou@thestation> wrote:

> > There is no such word as "prewarn".

>
> Well, dumbass, once again you're wrong:
>
> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prewarn
>
> Prewarn
> \Pre*warn"\, v. t. & i. [imp. & p. p. Prewarned; p. pr. & vb. n.
> Prewarning.] To warn beforehand; to forewarn. [R.]
>
> Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
>
>
>
> No be a man and apologize to Tony.
>
> Let's see what you're *really* made of...


Oh yeah, wikis and online "dictionaries" are what I base my life on,
sure.

No apology required, because there's no such word as "prewarn".


Joe 02-08-2008 12:59 AM

Re: Radar Detector Recomendation
 
On 2008-02-08, Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> But if you're driving properly--anonymously--and letting the rabbits run
> ahead, you get the warning from the cop hitting the idiots and losers
> who are happy to rabbit for you. Then you can safely slow down from
> 75-80 back to 65-70 before you go past that particular cop.
>
> This works whether the cop is using instant on or is running it full
> time.
>
> Speeding without tickets isn't just about a radar detector; it's a
> system. Please note that the above works only when you're doing it
> properly, in a pack. If you're out on the highway alone with little
> traffic, with nowhere to hide and no rabbits ahead, just slow down.
>


In a pack is the least of the times I want to drive fast. I generally
drive fast during the times that the cops don't mind. If I am driving
late at night or on a road with little to no traffic, I drive a bit
faster. On a busier highway, I stick to 5-7 over the limit, and the
police are fine with that.

I drive an 06 Si, am 35 years old, and have never had a speeding
ticket. Not that it won't happen eventually, but I try hard to drive
with some common sense, and it seems to work...


--
Joe - Linux User #449481/Ubuntu User #19733
joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X

Dave and Trudy 02-08-2008 03:43 AM

Re: Radar Detector Recomendation
 

"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.02.08.02.46.58.602777@moria.lan...
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:51:55 -0500, Butch Haynes wrote:
>
>>> Use your cruise control. Then, you don't have to worry about speeding.

>
>> Well, if I accidentally set it a little too high, the radar detector will
>> still be helpful. So can you recommend anything?

>
> If you "accidently set it a little too high", you're a ing moron and
> deserve to get a ticket. Slow the down, asswipe, and keep yourself
> and all of us safe.
>
>
> --
> "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".


You obviously have an IQ in the single digits or else are deficient in the
English language, if you can not express yourself without resorting to name
calling and the use of profanities. So, in order for you to comprehend my
meaning, stop wasting my bandwidth you ing moron. Stop the from
posting meaningles, useless bullshit.
DaveD



Brian Smith 02-08-2008 03:55 AM

Re: Radar Detector Recomendation
 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9A3DB72D26A8Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
>
> Intelligent driving does not necessarily entail adhering to the posted
> speed limit.


Not driving within the Posted Maximum Speed limit is not intelligent.



News 02-08-2008 07:28 AM

Re: Radar Detector Recomendation
 


Brian Smith wrote:
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A3DB72D26A8Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
>
>>Intelligent driving does not necessarily entail adhering to the posted
>>speed limit.

>
>
> Not driving within the Posted Maximum Speed limit is not intelligent.
>



Not driving at the prevailing speed of surrounding traffic is dangerous.

Butch Haynes 02-08-2008 07:49 AM

Re: Radar Detector Recomendation
 
"Butch Haynes" <Butch@huntsville> wrote in message
news:RbSdnUDnXeKG2jbanZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> For the rest of the year, I'll be on the interstate for a weekly 500 mile
> round trip-- and want to get a radar detector. They seem to range from $50
> on up to$500 or more.
>
> I'm not interested in over working my credit card for "the very best" one.
> Nor do I need one that gives me the cop's name and what he had for
> breakfast when he lights me up. I just want a little advance warning of
> cops in the area if the old needle creeps up too high-- real easy to do in
> my '07 Accord EX-L Sedan 6 cyl.
>
> So where's the most bang for the buck/sweet spot to buy-- and any specific
> recommendations?


To those fine folks who answered the question I asked, thanks for the good
advice and suggestions! To the rest of you sophomores-- OK children, recess
is over, go back to your homerooms now...



Tegger 02-08-2008 07:54 AM

Re: Radar Detector Recomendation
 
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:tOUqj.3955$FO1.805@edtnps82:

>
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A3DB72D26A8Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
>>
>> Intelligent driving does not necessarily entail adhering to the
>> posted speed limit.

>
> Not driving within the Posted Maximum Speed limit is not
> intelligent.
>
>
>




Suppose the posted maximum was set for political reasons and is set too
low?


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Butch Haynes 02-08-2008 08:09 AM

Re: Radar Detector Recomendation
 
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9A3E50897EBB5tegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
> news:tOUqj.3955$FO1.805@edtnps82:
>
>>
>> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9A3DB72D26A8Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
>>>
>>> Intelligent driving does not necessarily entail adhering to the
>>> posted speed limit.

>>
>> Not driving within the Posted Maximum Speed limit is not
>> intelligent.
>>

>
>
> Suppose the posted maximum was set for political reasons and is set too
> low?
>
>


Good point. There's a 10 mile stretch of westbound I-20 about 35 miles east
of Birmingham, AL where the S/L is 55 for no reason other than so the local
cops can bag "speeders". The S/L on either side of this speed trap is 70 and
the road there is wide, in good repair, has gentle curves and hills only.



jim beam 02-08-2008 09:00 AM

Re: Radar Detector Recomendation
 
Brian Smith wrote:
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A3DB72D26A8Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
>> Intelligent driving does not necessarily entail adhering to the posted
>> speed limit.

>
> Not driving within the Posted Maximum Speed limit is not intelligent.


around my neck of the woods, slowing down to the posted limit would
cause a 50 vehicle pile-up - and that's /really/ not intelligent.

jim beam 02-08-2008 09:12 AM

Re: Radar Detector Recomendation
 
Butch Haynes wrote:
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A3E50897EBB5tegger@207.14.116.130...
>> "Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
>> news:tOUqj.3955$FO1.805@edtnps82:
>>
>>> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9A3DB72D26A8Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
>>>> Intelligent driving does not necessarily entail adhering to the
>>>> posted speed limit.
>>> Not driving within the Posted Maximum Speed limit is not
>>> intelligent.
>>>

>>
>> Suppose the posted maximum was set for political reasons and is set too
>> low?
>>
>>

>
> Good point. There's a 10 mile stretch of westbound I-20 about 35 miles east
> of Birmingham, AL where the S/L is 55 for no reason other than so the local
> cops can bag "speeders". The S/L on either side of this speed trap is 70 and
> the road there is wide, in good repair, has gentle curves and hills only.
>
>


take that up with the feds. i understand that there have been a whole
bunch of these kinds of "local economy boosters" that have been
eliminated in ca and nv. apparently, there's some kind of law against
arbitrary local authority speed limits, and there's a "percentage of
local income" economic test applied when scrutinizing.


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