Wickeddoll

"Tom" ...
>
> Regardless if you used their batteries or not, they won't let you return
> no matter what!! Plus 75% of their batteries will cause your car to have
> faulty Fuel Reading.
>
>
> Full Story:

*snipped for brevity*

I had my oil cap come flying off while I was driving. Naturally, the car
screeched terribly until I could pull over. I called them, and made the
mechanics *come out and put some oil into the car*, and put the cap back on,
so that I could drive back to have them get it *right* this time. They
didn't even offer me any compensation (next time free or something)

I've taken my car to the dealer for oil changes ever since.

Natalie

Mark A

"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote in message > I
had my oil cap come flying off while I was driving. Naturally, the car
> screeched terribly until I could pull over. I called them, and made the
> mechanics *come out and put some oil into the car*, and put the cap back
> on, so that I could drive back to have them get it *right* this time.
> They didn't even offer me any compensation (next time free or something)
>
> I've taken my car to the dealer for oil changes ever since.
>
> Natalie

There have been people who posted on this forum their experience at a dealer
where they forgot to put the oil in the car (the mechanic had a long list of
things that needed to be done).

If I cannot change my own oil, I always get my oil changed at a place where
I can watch them do it. But I avoid the large national chain quick lubes
like Jiffy Lube in favor of smaller chains that are locally owned
(franchised).

Mark A

"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote in message > I
had my oil cap come flying off while I was driving. Naturally, the car
> screeched terribly until I could pull over. I called them, and made the
> mechanics *come out and put some oil into the car*, and put the cap back
> on, so that I could drive back to have them get it *right* this time.
> They didn't even offer me any compensation (next time free or something)
>
> I've taken my car to the dealer for oil changes ever since.
>
> Natalie

There have been people who posted on this forum their experience at a dealer
where they forgot to put the oil in the car (the mechanic had a long list of
things that needed to be done).

If I cannot change my own oil, I always get my oil changed at a place where
I can watch them do it. But I avoid the large national chain quick lubes
like Jiffy Lube in favor of smaller chains that are locally owned
(franchised).

Wickeddoll

"Mark A" ...
> "Wickeddoll" wrote in message > I had my oil cap come flying off while I
> was driving. Naturally, the car
>> screeched terribly until I could pull over. I called them, and made the
>> mechanics *come out and put some oil into the car*, and put the cap back
>> on, so that I could drive back to have them get it *right* this time.
>> They didn't even offer me any compensation (next time free or something)
>>
>> I've taken my car to the dealer for oil changes ever since.
>>
>> Natalie
>
> There have been people who posted on this forum their experience at a
> dealer where they forgot to put the oil in the car (the mechanic had a
> long list of things that needed to be done).
>
> If I cannot change my own oil, I always get my oil changed at a place
> where I can watch them do it. But I avoid the large national chain quick
> lubes like Jiffy Lube in favor of smaller chains that are locally owned
> (franchised).
>

We don't really have a facility that can accommodate changing oil. We'd be
charged for any stain on the concrete, for one.

It's just not worth the hassle to save the small amount of money, in our
opinion.

Natalie

Wickeddoll

"Mark A" ...
> "Wickeddoll" wrote in message > I had my oil cap come flying off while I
> was driving. Naturally, the car
>> screeched terribly until I could pull over. I called them, and made the
>> mechanics *come out and put some oil into the car*, and put the cap back
>> on, so that I could drive back to have them get it *right* this time.
>> They didn't even offer me any compensation (next time free or something)
>>
>> I've taken my car to the dealer for oil changes ever since.
>>
>> Natalie
>
> There have been people who posted on this forum their experience at a
> dealer where they forgot to put the oil in the car (the mechanic had a
> long list of things that needed to be done).
>
> If I cannot change my own oil, I always get my oil changed at a place
> where I can watch them do it. But I avoid the large national chain quick
> lubes like Jiffy Lube in favor of smaller chains that are locally owned
> (franchised).
>

We don't really have a facility that can accommodate changing oil. We'd be
charged for any stain on the concrete, for one.

It's just not worth the hassle to save the small amount of money, in our
opinion.

Natalie

dbu.

In article <d_9Ri.7372$s9.405@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> "Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote in message > I
> had my oil cap come flying off while I was driving. Naturally, the car
> > screeched terribly until I could pull over. I called them, and made the
> > mechanics *come out and put some oil into the car*, and put the cap back
> > on, so that I could drive back to have them get it *right* this time.
> > They didn't even offer me any compensation (next time free or something)
> >
> > I've taken my car to the dealer for oil changes ever since.
> >
> > Natalie
>
> There have been people who posted on this forum their experience at a dealer
> where they forgot to put the oil in the car (the mechanic had a long list of
> things that needed to be done).
>
> If I cannot change my own oil, I always get my oil changed at a place where
> I can watch them do it. But I avoid the large national chain quick lubes
> like Jiffy Lube in favor of smaller chains that are locally owned
> (franchised).

I avoid those also. My 04 Sienna has been serviced only by the dealer I
bought it from. I have been very pleased with their work.

dbu.

In article <d_9Ri.7372$s9.405@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> "Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote in message > I
> had my oil cap come flying off while I was driving. Naturally, the car
> > screeched terribly until I could pull over. I called them, and made the
> > mechanics *come out and put some oil into the car*, and put the cap back
> > on, so that I could drive back to have them get it *right* this time.
> > They didn't even offer me any compensation (next time free or something)
> >
> > I've taken my car to the dealer for oil changes ever since.
> >
> > Natalie
>
> There have been people who posted on this forum their experience at a dealer
> where they forgot to put the oil in the car (the mechanic had a long list of
> things that needed to be done).
>
> If I cannot change my own oil, I always get my oil changed at a place where
> I can watch them do it. But I avoid the large national chain quick lubes
> like Jiffy Lube in favor of smaller chains that are locally owned
> (franchised).

I avoid those also. My 04 Sienna has been serviced only by the dealer I
bought it from. I have been very pleased with their work.

Geoff Miller

Mark A <nobody@nowhere.com> writes:

> If I cannot change my own oil, I always get my oil changed at a
> place where I can watch them do it. But I avoid the large national
> chain quick lubes like Jiffy Lube in favor of smaller chains that
> are locally owned (franchised).


Why make that distinction? The employees are drawn from the same
local manpower pool, whether a place is part of a franchise or
locally owned. And the likelihood of poor management/oversight
is the same, one would think. (Why would the manager of a Jiffy
Lube be any less motivated than the manager of a locally-owned
shop?)

I stopped going to *any* oil change place after the "mechanic" at
one of them failed to tighten my oil drain plug completely, and
most of the oil drained out onto my driveway overnight. Either I
do it myself, or I get my (independent) mechanic to do it.



Geoff

--
"Is it true that Dorothy Parker named her pet parakeet
Onan because he kept spilling his seed upon the ground?"
-- David Mikkelson

Geoff Miller

Mark A <nobody@nowhere.com> writes:

> If I cannot change my own oil, I always get my oil changed at a
> place where I can watch them do it. But I avoid the large national
> chain quick lubes like Jiffy Lube in favor of smaller chains that
> are locally owned (franchised).


Why make that distinction? The employees are drawn from the same
local manpower pool, whether a place is part of a franchise or
locally owned. And the likelihood of poor management/oversight
is the same, one would think. (Why would the manager of a Jiffy
Lube be any less motivated than the manager of a locally-owned
shop?)

I stopped going to *any* oil change place after the "mechanic" at
one of them failed to tighten my oil drain plug completely, and
most of the oil drained out onto my driveway overnight. Either I
do it myself, or I get my (independent) mechanic to do it.



Geoff

--
"Is it true that Dorothy Parker named her pet parakeet
Onan because he kept spilling his seed upon the ground?"
-- David Mikkelson

Mark A

"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@lava.net> wrote in message
news:13hai55q631uu4d@corp.supernews.com...
> Why make that distinction? The employees are drawn from the same
> local manpower pool, whether a place is part of a franchise or
> locally owned. And the likelihood of poor management/oversight
> is the same, one would think. (Why would the manager of a Jiffy
> Lube be any less motivated than the manager of a locally-owned
> shop?)
>
> I stopped going to *any* oil change place after the "mechanic" at
> one of them failed to tighten my oil drain plug completely, and
> most of the oil drained out onto my driveway overnight. Either I
> do it myself, or I get my (independent) mechanic to do it.

If you find a oil change place where the local owner has only one or two
locations (whether part of large chain or not) then the local manager
probably has an ownership interest and cares about the reputation of his
business.

I have seen the same complaints posted about dealer oil changes just like
the quick lube places. The key is to be able to watch them. That eliminates
about 95% of the possible mistakes (failure to put in oil, failure to put on
cap, use wrong oil, failure to change filter, etc).

Mark A

"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@lava.net> wrote in message
news:13hai55q631uu4d@corp.supernews.com...
> Why make that distinction? The employees are drawn from the same
> local manpower pool, whether a place is part of a franchise or
> locally owned. And the likelihood of poor management/oversight
> is the same, one would think. (Why would the manager of a Jiffy
> Lube be any less motivated than the manager of a locally-owned
> shop?)
>
> I stopped going to *any* oil change place after the "mechanic" at
> one of them failed to tighten my oil drain plug completely, and
> most of the oil drained out onto my driveway overnight. Either I
> do it myself, or I get my (independent) mechanic to do it.

If you find a oil change place where the local owner has only one or two
locations (whether part of large chain or not) then the local manager
probably has an ownership interest and cares about the reputation of his
business.

I have seen the same complaints posted about dealer oil changes just like
the quick lube places. The key is to be able to watch them. That eliminates
about 95% of the possible mistakes (failure to put in oil, failure to put on
cap, use wrong oil, failure to change filter, etc).

Truckdude

"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@lava.net> wrote in message
news:13hai55q631uu4d@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> Mark A <nobody@nowhere.com> writes:
>
>> If I cannot change my own oil, I always get my oil changed at a
>> place where I can watch them do it. But I avoid the large national
>> chain quick lubes like Jiffy Lube in favor of smaller chains that
>> are locally owned (franchised).
>
>
> Why make that distinction? The employees are drawn from the same
> local manpower pool, whether a place is part of a franchise or
> locally owned. And the likelihood of poor management/oversight
> is the same, one would think. (Why would the manager of a Jiffy
> Lube be any less motivated than the manager of a locally-owned
> shop?)
>

Corporate pressure from above will have the Jiffy Lube mgr. more likely to
rip you off.



> I stopped going to *any* oil change place after the "mechanic" at
> one of them failed to tighten my oil drain plug completely, and
> most of the oil drained out onto my driveway overnight. Either I
> do it myself, or I get my (independent) mechanic to do it.
>
>
>
> Geoff
>
> --
> "Is it true that Dorothy Parker named her pet parakeet
> Onan because he kept spilling his seed upon the ground?"
> -- David Mikkelson
>

Truckdude

"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@lava.net> wrote in message
news:13hai55q631uu4d@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> Mark A <nobody@nowhere.com> writes:
>
>> If I cannot change my own oil, I always get my oil changed at a
>> place where I can watch them do it. But I avoid the large national
>> chain quick lubes like Jiffy Lube in favor of smaller chains that
>> are locally owned (franchised).
>
>
> Why make that distinction? The employees are drawn from the same
> local manpower pool, whether a place is part of a franchise or
> locally owned. And the likelihood of poor management/oversight
> is the same, one would think. (Why would the manager of a Jiffy
> Lube be any less motivated than the manager of a locally-owned
> shop?)
>

Corporate pressure from above will have the Jiffy Lube mgr. more likely to
rip you off.



> I stopped going to *any* oil change place after the "mechanic" at
> one of them failed to tighten my oil drain plug completely, and
> most of the oil drained out onto my driveway overnight. Either I
> do it myself, or I get my (independent) mechanic to do it.
>
>
>
> Geoff
>
> --
> "Is it true that Dorothy Parker named her pet parakeet
> Onan because he kept spilling his seed upon the ground?"
> -- David Mikkelson
>

Bruce L. Bergman

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:40:22 -0400, "Wickeddoll"
<wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"Mark A" ...

>> There have been people who posted on this forum their experience at a
>> dealer where they forgot to put the oil in the car (the mechanic had a
>> long list of things that needed to be done).
>>
>> If I cannot change my own oil, I always get my oil changed at a place
>> where I can watch them do it. But I avoid the large national chain quick
>> lubes like Jiffy Lube in favor of smaller chains that are locally owned
>> (franchised).

The last time I used Spiffy Lube was because I had a broken foot and
couldn't do it myself - and the only car that was running that had an
Automatic was my old Corvair - everything else in the house was Stick.

I had to stand there (on crutches) and walk them through the entire
process. Totally clueless - The "Manager" was barely shaving, and the
other workers were fresh out of Junior High.

I brought an AC filter, I knew they wouldn't have one. The computer
didn't have a procedure for "vintage cars" and they had to ask how
much oil it took, which was the right drain plug, how to get the
filter out without making a mess... (They still did, the "plastic bag
over the filter trick" takes practice to pull off.)

About the only thing they *didn't* do was open up the trunk and go
"Where the hell is the engine??" But I did have to open the trunk and
show them where the Master Cylinder fill cap was...

>We don't really have a facility that can accommodate changing oil. We'd be
>charged for any stain on the concrete, for one.
>
>It's just not worth the hassle to save the small amount of money, in our
>opinion.

If you are renting an apartment, you're stuck - unless the landlord
is a gearhead, then he'll understand and set aside a maintenance area.
With a strict "Clean up your mess when you're done" policy.

--<< Bruce >>--

Bruce L. Bergman

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:40:22 -0400, "Wickeddoll"
<wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"Mark A" ...

>> There have been people who posted on this forum their experience at a
>> dealer where they forgot to put the oil in the car (the mechanic had a
>> long list of things that needed to be done).
>>
>> If I cannot change my own oil, I always get my oil changed at a place
>> where I can watch them do it. But I avoid the large national chain quick
>> lubes like Jiffy Lube in favor of smaller chains that are locally owned
>> (franchised).

The last time I used Spiffy Lube was because I had a broken foot and
couldn't do it myself - and the only car that was running that had an
Automatic was my old Corvair - everything else in the house was Stick.

I had to stand there (on crutches) and walk them through the entire
process. Totally clueless - The "Manager" was barely shaving, and the
other workers were fresh out of Junior High.

I brought an AC filter, I knew they wouldn't have one. The computer
didn't have a procedure for "vintage cars" and they had to ask how
much oil it took, which was the right drain plug, how to get the
filter out without making a mess... (They still did, the "plastic bag
over the filter trick" takes practice to pull off.)

About the only thing they *didn't* do was open up the trunk and go
"Where the hell is the engine??" But I did have to open the trunk and
show them where the Master Cylinder fill cap was...

>We don't really have a facility that can accommodate changing oil. We'd be
>charged for any stain on the concrete, for one.
>
>It's just not worth the hassle to save the small amount of money, in our
>opinion.

If you are renting an apartment, you're stuck - unless the landlord
is a gearhead, then he'll understand and set aside a maintenance area.
With a strict "Clean up your mess when you're done" policy.

--<< Bruce >>--