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Re: What's the difference between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda antifreeze?
John D. wrote:
>snip< > I'm also not convinved that silicates/borates actually DO wear out > the > water pump bearing UNLESS the mechanical seal is faulty, coolant does not come in contact with the shaft bearings! -- ~~Philip "Don't let school get in the way of your education" Dennis Pragar |
Re: What's the difference between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda antifreeze?
Then please explain what the problem is, as many people say, with
coolants that have those chemicals in them? Or is that just another urban legend. John D. "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<WDV1b.1031$3E.610@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net>... > John D. wrote: > >snip< > > I'm also not convinved that silicates/borates actually DO wear out > > the > > water pump bearing > > UNLESS the mechanical seal is faulty, coolant does not come in > contact with the shaft bearings! |
Re: What's the difference between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda antifreeze?
Then please explain what the problem is, as many people say, with
coolants that have those chemicals in them? Or is that just another urban legend. John D. "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<WDV1b.1031$3E.610@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net>... > John D. wrote: > >snip< > > I'm also not convinved that silicates/borates actually DO wear out > > the > > water pump bearing > > UNLESS the mechanical seal is faulty, coolant does not come in > contact with the shaft bearings! |
Re: What's the difference between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda antifreeze?
Tegger® wrote:
> "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> doodled aimlessly in > news:WDV1b.1031$3E.610@newsread3.news.pas.earthlin k.net: > >> John D. wrote: >>> snip< >>> I'm also not convinved that silicates/borates actually DO wear >>> out the >>> water pump bearing >> >> UNLESS the mechanical seal is faulty, coolant does not come in >> contact with the shaft bearings! > > > But silicates tend to wear away the seal, and that would > eventually lead to ingress of coolant into the bearing, would it > not? Maybe silicates contribute to wear and then maybe a film of silicate acts as a "lubricant" in the stricter sense of the word. Hmmmm.! -- ~~Philip "Never let school interfere with your education - Mark Twain" |
Re: What's the difference between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda antifreeze?
Tegger® wrote:
> "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> doodled aimlessly in > news:WDV1b.1031$3E.610@newsread3.news.pas.earthlin k.net: > >> John D. wrote: >>> snip< >>> I'm also not convinved that silicates/borates actually DO wear >>> out the >>> water pump bearing >> >> UNLESS the mechanical seal is faulty, coolant does not come in >> contact with the shaft bearings! > > > But silicates tend to wear away the seal, and that would > eventually lead to ingress of coolant into the bearing, would it > not? Maybe silicates contribute to wear and then maybe a film of silicate acts as a "lubricant" in the stricter sense of the word. Hmmmm.! -- ~~Philip "Never let school interfere with your education - Mark Twain" |
Re: What's the difference between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda antifreeze?
For many years with my old Datsun, the standard routine would be to do
a chemical flush and refill with Prestone, then add a can of water pump lubricant...hoping to take care of both corrosion AND the water pump at the same time. Lately, I haven't seen those cans of water pump lubricant around anymore. John D. "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<1th2b.2318$Jh2.1610@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net>... > Tegger® wrote: > > "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> doodled aimlessly in > > news:WDV1b.1031$3E.610@newsread3.news.pas.earthlin k.net: > > > >> John D. wrote: > >>> snip< > >>> I'm also not convinved that silicates/borates actually DO wear > >>> out the > >>> water pump bearing > >> > >> UNLESS the mechanical seal is faulty, coolant does not come in > >> contact with the shaft bearings! > > > > > > But silicates tend to wear away the seal, and that would > > eventually lead to ingress of coolant into the bearing, would it > > not? > > Maybe silicates contribute to wear and then maybe a film of silicate > acts as a "lubricant" in the stricter sense of the word. Hmmmm.! |
Re: What's the difference between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda antifreeze?
For many years with my old Datsun, the standard routine would be to do
a chemical flush and refill with Prestone, then add a can of water pump lubricant...hoping to take care of both corrosion AND the water pump at the same time. Lately, I haven't seen those cans of water pump lubricant around anymore. John D. "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<1th2b.2318$Jh2.1610@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net>... > Tegger® wrote: > > "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> doodled aimlessly in > > news:WDV1b.1031$3E.610@newsread3.news.pas.earthlin k.net: > > > >> John D. wrote: > >>> snip< > >>> I'm also not convinved that silicates/borates actually DO wear > >>> out the > >>> water pump bearing > >> > >> UNLESS the mechanical seal is faulty, coolant does not come in > >> contact with the shaft bearings! > > > > > > But silicates tend to wear away the seal, and that would > > eventually lead to ingress of coolant into the bearing, would it > > not? > > Maybe silicates contribute to wear and then maybe a film of silicate > acts as a "lubricant" in the stricter sense of the word. Hmmmm.! |
Re: What's the difference between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda antifreeze?
"John D." wrote:
> > For many years with my old Datsun, the standard routine would be to do > a chemical flush and refill with Prestone, then add a can of water > pump lubricant...hoping to take care of both corrosion AND the water > pump at the same time. Lately, I haven't seen those cans of water pump > lubricant around anymore. > Honda sells their own water pump lubricant though I'm not sure who makes it for them or if they make it themselves. What's interesting is that I had someone at a dealer parts counter deny that this was true even though I've actually seen the stuff at an independent Honda shop. |
Re: What's the difference between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda antifreeze?
"John D." wrote:
> > For many years with my old Datsun, the standard routine would be to do > a chemical flush and refill with Prestone, then add a can of water > pump lubricant...hoping to take care of both corrosion AND the water > pump at the same time. Lately, I haven't seen those cans of water pump > lubricant around anymore. > Honda sells their own water pump lubricant though I'm not sure who makes it for them or if they make it themselves. What's interesting is that I had someone at a dealer parts counter deny that this was true even though I've actually seen the stuff at an independent Honda shop. |
Re: What's the difference between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda antifreeze?
Eric <say.no@spam.now> doodled aimlessly in
news:3F4A69F5.202E323B@spam.now: > "John D." wrote: >> >> For many years with my old Datsun, the standard routine would be to >> do a chemical flush and refill with Prestone, then add a can of water >> pump lubricant...hoping to take care of both corrosion AND the water >> pump at the same time. Lately, I haven't seen those cans of water >> pump lubricant around anymore. >> > > Honda sells their own water pump lubricant though I'm not sure who > makes it for them or if they make it themselves. What's interesting > is that I had someone at a dealer parts counter deny that this was > true even though I've actually seen the stuff at an independent Honda > shop. > I don't know about "water pump lubricant", but they certainly do sell their own coolant. I have a gallon jug of it in front of me as I type. All it says on it is "Distributed by Honda Canada. Made in USA". -- TeGGeR® |
Re: What's the difference between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda antifreeze?
Eric <say.no@spam.now> doodled aimlessly in
news:3F4A69F5.202E323B@spam.now: > "John D." wrote: >> >> For many years with my old Datsun, the standard routine would be to >> do a chemical flush and refill with Prestone, then add a can of water >> pump lubricant...hoping to take care of both corrosion AND the water >> pump at the same time. Lately, I haven't seen those cans of water >> pump lubricant around anymore. >> > > Honda sells their own water pump lubricant though I'm not sure who > makes it for them or if they make it themselves. What's interesting > is that I had someone at a dealer parts counter deny that this was > true even though I've actually seen the stuff at an independent Honda > shop. > I don't know about "water pump lubricant", but they certainly do sell their own coolant. I have a gallon jug of it in front of me as I type. All it says on it is "Distributed by Honda Canada. Made in USA". -- TeGGeR® |
Re: What's the difference between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda antifreeze?
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 00:34:42 +0000, Philip® wrote:
> Tom Hamilton wrote: >>> ~~Philip >>> >>> "Don't let school get in the way of >>> your education" Dennis Pragar >> >> Isn't that a Twain quotation? > > Looked up the quote. I'll make an adjustment. Thank you! > > -- > > ~~Philip > > "Never let school interfere > with your education - Mark Twain" Just remember, clothes make the man, naked people have little or no effect on society. Just because I am from Hartford I will plug this http://www.marktwainhouse.org/ |
Re: What's the difference between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda antifreeze?
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 00:34:42 +0000, Philip® wrote:
> Tom Hamilton wrote: >>> ~~Philip >>> >>> "Don't let school get in the way of >>> your education" Dennis Pragar >> >> Isn't that a Twain quotation? > > Looked up the quote. I'll make an adjustment. Thank you! > > -- > > ~~Philip > > "Never let school interfere > with your education - Mark Twain" Just remember, clothes make the man, naked people have little or no effect on society. Just because I am from Hartford I will plug this http://www.marktwainhouse.org/ |
Re: What's the difference between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda antifreeze?
IIRC, the water pump lubricant I used were made by Prestone...in those
small yellow cans. But as I said, I haven't seen them lately...definitely looked for them at Autozone recently but they said they didn't carry them anymore. I think Zerex makes one though...don't know about Nissan. John D. Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:<3F4A69F5.202E323B@spam.now>... > "John D." wrote: > > > > For many years with my old Datsun, the standard routine would be to do > > a chemical flush and refill with Prestone, then add a can of water > > pump lubricant...hoping to take care of both corrosion AND the water > > pump at the same time. Lately, I haven't seen those cans of water pump > > lubricant around anymore. > > > > Honda sells their own water pump lubricant though I'm not sure who makes it for > them or if they make it themselves. What's interesting is that I had someone at > a dealer parts counter deny that this was true even though I've actually seen > the stuff at an independent Honda shop. |
Re: What's the difference between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda antifreeze?
IIRC, the water pump lubricant I used were made by Prestone...in those
small yellow cans. But as I said, I haven't seen them lately...definitely looked for them at Autozone recently but they said they didn't carry them anymore. I think Zerex makes one though...don't know about Nissan. John D. Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:<3F4A69F5.202E323B@spam.now>... > "John D." wrote: > > > > For many years with my old Datsun, the standard routine would be to do > > a chemical flush and refill with Prestone, then add a can of water > > pump lubricant...hoping to take care of both corrosion AND the water > > pump at the same time. Lately, I haven't seen those cans of water pump > > lubricant around anymore. > > > > Honda sells their own water pump lubricant though I'm not sure who makes it for > them or if they make it themselves. What's interesting is that I had someone at > a dealer parts counter deny that this was true even though I've actually seen > the stuff at an independent Honda shop. |
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