Rear wiper on a sedan?
10-23-2009, 03:28 PM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
Brian Smith wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>>
>> Please, do not drive near me.
>
> Why are you dangerous?
>
Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view mirror
is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to rear end
you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do about it.
I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent information.
JT
> Joe wrote:
>>
>> Please, do not drive near me.
>
> Why are you dangerous?
>
Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view mirror
is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to rear end
you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do about it.
I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent information.
JT
10-23-2009, 07:45 PM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
"Grumpy AuContraire" <GrumpyOne@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
news:Oo6dnREYldqKnn_XnZ2dnUVZ_s1i4p2d@giganews.com ...
> Brian Smith wrote:
>> Joe wrote:
>>>
>>> Please, do not drive near me.
>>
>> Why are you dangerous?
>>
>
>
> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view mirror is
> to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to rear end you. In
> either case, there won't be much that you can do about it.
>
> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent
> information.
>
> JT
I drive a coupe with rear wiper. It is quite useless.
10-23-2009, 07:56 PM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
"E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@gmail.com> wrote in
news:C7070ACD.13399%epmeyer50@gmail.com:
>
>
>
> On 10/22/09 6:47 PM, in article Xns9CACC938479B2tegger@208.90.168.18,
> "Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>
>> "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:C705CE5C.13342%epmeyer50@gmail.com:
>>
>>>
>>> Don't know about the rear wiper, but Nissan is finally selling the
>>> Skyline in the US. Its called the GT-R, has 480 horsepower out of a
>>> twin turbine V6 & costs about $85k US.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I think it's pretty safe to say the GT-R will be a "niche" vehicle.
>
> The one I've seen in a Nissan dealership was fenced off with velvet
> rope so that it could not be approached or, God forbid, touched by
> prospective customers. I'm kinda surprised Nissan didn't market it as
> an Infiniti in the US. They, at least, wouldn't be afraid of
> customers actually touching the car.
>
The velvet rope might have been an image thing, I guess. Makes the car seem
that much more desirable. Forbidden fruit, y'know.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:C7070ACD.13399%epmeyer50@gmail.com:
>
>
>
> On 10/22/09 6:47 PM, in article Xns9CACC938479B2tegger@208.90.168.18,
> "Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>
>> "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:C705CE5C.13342%epmeyer50@gmail.com:
>>
>>>
>>> Don't know about the rear wiper, but Nissan is finally selling the
>>> Skyline in the US. Its called the GT-R, has 480 horsepower out of a
>>> twin turbine V6 & costs about $85k US.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I think it's pretty safe to say the GT-R will be a "niche" vehicle.
>
> The one I've seen in a Nissan dealership was fenced off with velvet
> rope so that it could not be approached or, God forbid, touched by
> prospective customers. I'm kinda surprised Nissan didn't market it as
> an Infiniti in the US. They, at least, wouldn't be afraid of
> customers actually touching the car.
>
The velvet rope might have been an image thing, I guess. Makes the car seem
that much more desirable. Forbidden fruit, y'know.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
10-23-2009, 07:59 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
"Bob Jones" <email@me.not> wrote in
news:005e1388$0$13119$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:
>
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <GrumpyOne@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
> news:Oo6dnREYldqKnn_XnZ2dnUVZ_s1i4p2d@giganews.com ...
>> Brian Smith wrote:
>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Please, do not drive near me.
>>>
>>> Why are you dangerous?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view
>> mirror is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to
>> rear end you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do
>> about it.
>>
>> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent
>> information.
>>
>> JT
>
> I drive a coupe with rear wiper. It is quite useless.
>
>
>
You must not live in an area where the rear window gets dew or rain on it.
When I drive my wife's Tercel (which is a sedan), I really miss the rear
view the Integra's rear wiper gives.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:005e1388$0$13119$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:
>
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <GrumpyOne@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
> news:Oo6dnREYldqKnn_XnZ2dnUVZ_s1i4p2d@giganews.com ...
>> Brian Smith wrote:
>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Please, do not drive near me.
>>>
>>> Why are you dangerous?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view
>> mirror is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to
>> rear end you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do
>> about it.
>>
>> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent
>> information.
>>
>> JT
>
> I drive a coupe with rear wiper. It is quite useless.
>
>
>
You must not live in an area where the rear window gets dew or rain on it.
When I drive my wife's Tercel (which is a sedan), I really miss the rear
view the Integra's rear wiper gives.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
10-23-2009, 08:37 PM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
Tegger wrote:
>
> HE's not dangerous, he's implying that YOU are.
That is a falsehood.
> And if you're using your side-view mirrors as rear-view mirrors, then
> you've got them aimed wrongly.
There is nothing incorrect in the way in which I have my side mirrors
aimed. It only takes a bit of movement of my head to view everything
from curb to curb and to the rear in my mirrors. I have been driving
heavy trucks for decades and not one of them had a rear view mirror (or
window), no issues in any regards in those vehicles or smaller vehicles.
>
> HE's not dangerous, he's implying that YOU are.
That is a falsehood.
> And if you're using your side-view mirrors as rear-view mirrors, then
> you've got them aimed wrongly.
There is nothing incorrect in the way in which I have my side mirrors
aimed. It only takes a bit of movement of my head to view everything
from curb to curb and to the rear in my mirrors. I have been driving
heavy trucks for decades and not one of them had a rear view mirror (or
window), no issues in any regards in those vehicles or smaller vehicles.
10-23-2009, 08:37 PM
#21
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
Tegger wrote:
>
> HE's not dangerous, he's implying that YOU are.
That is a falsehood.
> And if you're using your side-view mirrors as rear-view mirrors, then
> you've got them aimed wrongly.
There is nothing incorrect in the way in which I have my side mirrors
aimed. It only takes a bit of movement of my head to view everything
from curb to curb and to the rear in my mirrors. I have been driving
heavy trucks for decades and not one of them had a rear view mirror (or
window), no issues in any regards in those vehicles or smaller vehicles.
>
> HE's not dangerous, he's implying that YOU are.
That is a falsehood.
> And if you're using your side-view mirrors as rear-view mirrors, then
> you've got them aimed wrongly.
There is nothing incorrect in the way in which I have my side mirrors
aimed. It only takes a bit of movement of my head to view everything
from curb to curb and to the rear in my mirrors. I have been driving
heavy trucks for decades and not one of them had a rear view mirror (or
window), no issues in any regards in those vehicles or smaller vehicles.
10-23-2009, 08:40 PM
#22
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view mirror
> is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to rear end
> you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do about it.
In both of those scenarios you mention, the side mirrors will show you
the vehicle approaching yours.
> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent information.
They (when adjusted properly) give the driver 100% of the view behind
and to both sides of his vehicle.
>
> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view mirror
> is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to rear end
> you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do about it.
In both of those scenarios you mention, the side mirrors will show you
the vehicle approaching yours.
> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent information.
They (when adjusted properly) give the driver 100% of the view behind
and to both sides of his vehicle.
10-23-2009, 09:14 PM
#23
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:hbqr6f$dlb$1@news.datemas.de...
> thomas wrote:
>>
>> Blimey - don't you drive ?
>
> I've been driving for almost forty years. I have never had a need to
> look out the rear window of any vehicle I have driven over the
> years. Side mirrors are far more accurate to use to keep track of
> what is going on around any vehicle.
I've been driving for 35 years, and I'll never say never.
10-23-2009, 09:16 PM
#24
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:hbti52$361$1@news.datemas.de:
> Tegger wrote:
>>
>> HE's not dangerous, he's implying that YOU are.
>
> That is a falsehood.
You said:
"Why are you dangerous?"
As posted, your question requested him to explain his dangerousness.
Nothing in the thread said anything about his behavior one way or the
other.
If you had instead punctuated your sentence this way:
"Why? Are you dangerous?"
that would have made more sense in the context of the thread.
>
>> And if you're using your side-view mirrors as rear-view mirrors, then
>> you've got them aimed wrongly.
>
> There is nothing incorrect in the way in which I have my side
> mirrors aimed. It only takes a bit of movement of my head to view
> everything from curb to curb and to the rear in my mirrors. I have
> been driving heavy trucks for decades and not one of them had a rear
> view mirror (or window), no issues in any regards in those vehicles or
> smaller vehicles.
>
A heavy truck is not the same as a passenger car. A heavy truck's
mirrors are much larger, for one thing, and for another it's impossible
to provide a rear window in a 53' trailer (or in a sleeper-cab tractor).
Plus trucks cannot perform the sort of sudden maneuvers that cars can.
Passenger-car side mirrors are meant to be aimed into the side blind-spots
not covered by your forward peripheral vision or by the rear-view
mirror.
Here's a pretty good explanation of passenger-car side-view-mirror
aiming I found using Google:
<http://www.linquist.net/motorsports/tech/mirrors/>
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:hbti52$361$1@news.datemas.de:
> Tegger wrote:
>>
>> HE's not dangerous, he's implying that YOU are.
>
> That is a falsehood.
You said:
"Why are you dangerous?"
As posted, your question requested him to explain his dangerousness.
Nothing in the thread said anything about his behavior one way or the
other.
If you had instead punctuated your sentence this way:
"Why? Are you dangerous?"
that would have made more sense in the context of the thread.
>
>> And if you're using your side-view mirrors as rear-view mirrors, then
>> you've got them aimed wrongly.
>
> There is nothing incorrect in the way in which I have my side
> mirrors aimed. It only takes a bit of movement of my head to view
> everything from curb to curb and to the rear in my mirrors. I have
> been driving heavy trucks for decades and not one of them had a rear
> view mirror (or window), no issues in any regards in those vehicles or
> smaller vehicles.
>
A heavy truck is not the same as a passenger car. A heavy truck's
mirrors are much larger, for one thing, and for another it's impossible
to provide a rear window in a 53' trailer (or in a sleeper-cab tractor).
Plus trucks cannot perform the sort of sudden maneuvers that cars can.
Passenger-car side mirrors are meant to be aimed into the side blind-spots
not covered by your forward peripheral vision or by the rear-view
mirror.
Here's a pretty good explanation of passenger-car side-view-mirror
aiming I found using Google:
<http://www.linquist.net/motorsports/tech/mirrors/>
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
10-23-2009, 09:36 PM
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:hbti9c$j9$2@news.datemas.de:
> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view
>> mirror is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to
>> rear end you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do
>> about it.
>
> In both of those scenarios you mention, the side mirrors will
> show you the vehicle approaching yours.
>
>> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent
>> information.
>
> They (when adjusted properly) give the driver 100% of the view
> behind and to both sides of his vehicle.
Passenger-car side mirrors are /far/ too small to provide a proper all-over
view. Heavy-truck side-view mirrows are much larger.
For work I frequently travel with sufficient cargo as to be unable to see
out the rear window of my Integra. My right-side mirror is -- trust me on
this -- wholly inadequate for anything close to complete comprehension of
the surrounding traffic.
I find myself changing lanes on the highway a bit the way a transport
driver does: Signal first, then wait a bit so I'm pretty sure everybody
sees it. As the signal flashes, I bob and weave about in my seat, studying
in detail the view out my tiny right-side mirror. Nobody apparently there?
Signal still on, I /slowly/ begin my lane change, waiting for a horn honk.
No horn honk? Then it's probably safe. I continue moving over. I've been
pretty careful over the last 18 years; only one horn-honk.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:hbti9c$j9$2@news.datemas.de:
> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view
>> mirror is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to
>> rear end you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do
>> about it.
>
> In both of those scenarios you mention, the side mirrors will
> show you the vehicle approaching yours.
>
>> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent
>> information.
>
> They (when adjusted properly) give the driver 100% of the view
> behind and to both sides of his vehicle.
Passenger-car side mirrors are /far/ too small to provide a proper all-over
view. Heavy-truck side-view mirrows are much larger.
For work I frequently travel with sufficient cargo as to be unable to see
out the rear window of my Integra. My right-side mirror is -- trust me on
this -- wholly inadequate for anything close to complete comprehension of
the surrounding traffic.
I find myself changing lanes on the highway a bit the way a transport
driver does: Signal first, then wait a bit so I'm pretty sure everybody
sees it. As the signal flashes, I bob and weave about in my seat, studying
in detail the view out my tiny right-side mirror. Nobody apparently there?
Signal still on, I /slowly/ begin my lane change, waiting for a horn honk.
No horn honk? Then it's probably safe. I continue moving over. I've been
pretty careful over the last 18 years; only one horn-honk.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
10-24-2009, 07:25 AM
#26
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
Tegger wrote:
>
> A heavy truck is not the same as a passenger car. A heavy truck's
> mirrors are much larger, for one thing, and for another it's impossible
> to provide a rear window in a 53' trailer (or in a sleeper-cab tractor).
> Plus trucks cannot perform the sort of sudden maneuvers that cars can.
Trucks sometimes have to perform sudden maneuvers to avoid the idiots
that don't know how to operate their cars safely.
> Passenger-car side mirrors are meant to be aimed into the side blind-spots
> not covered by your forward peripheral vision or by the rear-view
> mirror.
> Here's a pretty good explanation of passenger-car side-view-mirror
> aiming I found using Google:
> <http://www.linquist.net/motorsports/tech/mirrors/>
Side mirrors are the way to go when keeping track of what is going on
around your vehicle. That's the bottom line and people should be open to
learning more from the other's personal experience gained over the years.
>
> A heavy truck is not the same as a passenger car. A heavy truck's
> mirrors are much larger, for one thing, and for another it's impossible
> to provide a rear window in a 53' trailer (or in a sleeper-cab tractor).
> Plus trucks cannot perform the sort of sudden maneuvers that cars can.
Trucks sometimes have to perform sudden maneuvers to avoid the idiots
that don't know how to operate their cars safely.
> Passenger-car side mirrors are meant to be aimed into the side blind-spots
> not covered by your forward peripheral vision or by the rear-view
> mirror.
> Here's a pretty good explanation of passenger-car side-view-mirror
> aiming I found using Google:
> <http://www.linquist.net/motorsports/tech/mirrors/>
Side mirrors are the way to go when keeping track of what is going on
around your vehicle. That's the bottom line and people should be open to
learning more from the other's personal experience gained over the years.
10-24-2009, 07:29 AM
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
Tegger wrote:
>
> Passenger-car side mirrors are /far/ too small to provide a proper all-over
> view. Heavy-truck side-view mirrows are much larger.
I disagree on the first part of this paragraph and agree with the
second portion.
> For work I frequently travel with sufficient cargo as to be unable to see
> out the rear window of my Integra. My right-side mirror is -- trust me on
> this -- wholly inadequate for anything close to complete comprehension of
> the surrounding traffic.
If you adjust your right side mirror properly, you will see that you
are able to see properly.
> I find myself changing lanes on the highway a bit the way a transport
> driver does: Signal first, then wait a bit so I'm pretty sure everybody
> sees it. As the signal flashes, I bob and weave about in my seat, studying
> in detail the view out my tiny right-side mirror. Nobody apparently there?
> Signal still on, I /slowly/ begin my lane change, waiting for a horn honk.
> No horn honk? Then it's probably safe. I continue moving over. I've been
> pretty careful over the last 18 years; only one horn-honk.
What you have described here is the proper (and legal) way to initiate
and safely complete a lane change. Congratulations, you are one a very
few drivers on the road that know how to do that one maneuver.
>
> Passenger-car side mirrors are /far/ too small to provide a proper all-over
> view. Heavy-truck side-view mirrows are much larger.
I disagree on the first part of this paragraph and agree with the
second portion.
> For work I frequently travel with sufficient cargo as to be unable to see
> out the rear window of my Integra. My right-side mirror is -- trust me on
> this -- wholly inadequate for anything close to complete comprehension of
> the surrounding traffic.
If you adjust your right side mirror properly, you will see that you
are able to see properly.
> I find myself changing lanes on the highway a bit the way a transport
> driver does: Signal first, then wait a bit so I'm pretty sure everybody
> sees it. As the signal flashes, I bob and weave about in my seat, studying
> in detail the view out my tiny right-side mirror. Nobody apparently there?
> Signal still on, I /slowly/ begin my lane change, waiting for a horn honk.
> No horn honk? Then it's probably safe. I continue moving over. I've been
> pretty careful over the last 18 years; only one horn-honk.
What you have described here is the proper (and legal) way to initiate
and safely complete a lane change. Congratulations, you are one a very
few drivers on the road that know how to do that one maneuver.
10-24-2009, 11:53 AM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
In article <hbqr6f$dlb$1@news.datemas.de>,
Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
> thomas wrote:
> >
> > Blimey - don't you drive ?
>
> I've been driving for almost forty years. I have never had a need to
> look out the rear window of any vehicle I have driven over the years.
> Side mirrors are far more accurate to use to keep track of what is going
> on around any vehicle.
Are you saying that you never look in the rear view mirror to see what's
happening directly behind you?
If that's the case, I'll remember to give you a WIDE berth.
Not that you'll ever try this, but properly set mirrors mean you don't
have to twist your neck around to see what's happening around you.
If your side mirrors are set properly, you have zero blind spots.
Everything that's happening around you, you can see by looking in the
rear view mirror, or as the cars exit that and come up beside you you'll
see them in the side mirror, or as the cars exit that and come further
up beside you you'll see them in your peripheral vision.
All without ever moving your head farther than over to your side mirrors.
So in that regard, there's zero reason to twist around and plant your
eyeballs directly outside a rear window, yes.
But not to use a rear view mirror, not to see things that the side
mirror can't show you? Not to have a heads up on what's happening back
there BEFORE the action comes into a side mirror?
That's ing insane.
Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
> thomas wrote:
> >
> > Blimey - don't you drive ?
>
> I've been driving for almost forty years. I have never had a need to
> look out the rear window of any vehicle I have driven over the years.
> Side mirrors are far more accurate to use to keep track of what is going
> on around any vehicle.
Are you saying that you never look in the rear view mirror to see what's
happening directly behind you?
If that's the case, I'll remember to give you a WIDE berth.
Not that you'll ever try this, but properly set mirrors mean you don't
have to twist your neck around to see what's happening around you.
If your side mirrors are set properly, you have zero blind spots.
Everything that's happening around you, you can see by looking in the
rear view mirror, or as the cars exit that and come up beside you you'll
see them in the side mirror, or as the cars exit that and come further
up beside you you'll see them in your peripheral vision.
All without ever moving your head farther than over to your side mirrors.
So in that regard, there's zero reason to twist around and plant your
eyeballs directly outside a rear window, yes.
But not to use a rear view mirror, not to see things that the side
mirror can't show you? Not to have a heads up on what's happening back
there BEFORE the action comes into a side mirror?
That's ing insane.
10-24-2009, 11:54 AM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
In article <hbuo34$9u9$1@news.datemas.de>,
Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
> Side mirrors are the way to go when keeping track of what is going on
> around your vehicle. That's the bottom line and people should be open to
> learning more from the other's personal experience gained over the years.
You are clearly trolling with this.
Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
> Side mirrors are the way to go when keeping track of what is going on
> around your vehicle. That's the bottom line and people should be open to
> learning more from the other's personal experience gained over the years.
You are clearly trolling with this.