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David Fritz 01-11-2004 03:52 AM

remote starter help
 
I was wondering if anyone can provide the wire color of the tachometer wire
on 2000 Honda Passport. I understand it is located in Drivers Kick Panel,
but do not have a schematic for it. I am doing an install for my niece; a
remote starter. It works fine, but there is a programming mode to sense the
tach and "teach" the unit when to quit cranking. Sometimes it quits
cranking and sometimes it does not, shuts off, and retries, usually
succesfully.

If any of you have a Honda manual handy and can look up the tacho wire
color/location for me, I'd appreciate it!

Thanks!
David



Seth 01-11-2004 08:50 AM

Re: remote starter help
 
"David Fritz" <davidfritz@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:898Mb.4268$zj7.3388@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net
> I was wondering if anyone can provide the wire color of
> the tachometer wire on 2000 Honda Passport. I understand
> it is located in Drivers Kick Panel, but do not have a
> schematic for it. I am doing an install for my niece; a
> remote starter. It works fine, but there is a
> programming mode to sense the tach and "teach" the unit
> when to quit cranking. Sometimes it quits cranking and
> sometimes it does not, shuts off, and retries, usually
> succesfully.
>
> If any of you have a Honda manual handy and can look up
> the tacho wire color/location for me, I'd appreciate it!


I don't have a manual handy (haven't been in that biz for a few years now),
but here are some tricks.

- You can always find the tach wire at the coil under the hood. Then it
will just be 1 of 4 wires to test instead of 100.

- Use a DMM to verify it is the tach. Set DMM to read A/C voltage. Attach
positive probe to positive side of battery. Use negative probe to test and
see if target wire is tach. DMM should display close to actual RPM when you
find the right wire.




Seth 01-11-2004 08:50 AM

Re: remote starter help
 
"David Fritz" <davidfritz@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:898Mb.4268$zj7.3388@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net
> I was wondering if anyone can provide the wire color of
> the tachometer wire on 2000 Honda Passport. I understand
> it is located in Drivers Kick Panel, but do not have a
> schematic for it. I am doing an install for my niece; a
> remote starter. It works fine, but there is a
> programming mode to sense the tach and "teach" the unit
> when to quit cranking. Sometimes it quits cranking and
> sometimes it does not, shuts off, and retries, usually
> succesfully.
>
> If any of you have a Honda manual handy and can look up
> the tacho wire color/location for me, I'd appreciate it!


I don't have a manual handy (haven't been in that biz for a few years now),
but here are some tricks.

- You can always find the tach wire at the coil under the hood. Then it
will just be 1 of 4 wires to test instead of 100.

- Use a DMM to verify it is the tach. Set DMM to read A/C voltage. Attach
positive probe to positive side of battery. Use negative probe to test and
see if target wire is tach. DMM should display close to actual RPM when you
find the right wire.




Seth 01-11-2004 08:50 AM

Re: remote starter help
 
"David Fritz" <davidfritz@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:898Mb.4268$zj7.3388@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net
> I was wondering if anyone can provide the wire color of
> the tachometer wire on 2000 Honda Passport. I understand
> it is located in Drivers Kick Panel, but do not have a
> schematic for it. I am doing an install for my niece; a
> remote starter. It works fine, but there is a
> programming mode to sense the tach and "teach" the unit
> when to quit cranking. Sometimes it quits cranking and
> sometimes it does not, shuts off, and retries, usually
> succesfully.
>
> If any of you have a Honda manual handy and can look up
> the tacho wire color/location for me, I'd appreciate it!


I don't have a manual handy (haven't been in that biz for a few years now),
but here are some tricks.

- You can always find the tach wire at the coil under the hood. Then it
will just be 1 of 4 wires to test instead of 100.

- Use a DMM to verify it is the tach. Set DMM to read A/C voltage. Attach
positive probe to positive side of battery. Use negative probe to test and
see if target wire is tach. DMM should display close to actual RPM when you
find the right wire.




Seth 01-11-2004 08:50 AM

Re: remote starter help
 
"David Fritz" <davidfritz@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:898Mb.4268$zj7.3388@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net
> I was wondering if anyone can provide the wire color of
> the tachometer wire on 2000 Honda Passport. I understand
> it is located in Drivers Kick Panel, but do not have a
> schematic for it. I am doing an install for my niece; a
> remote starter. It works fine, but there is a
> programming mode to sense the tach and "teach" the unit
> when to quit cranking. Sometimes it quits cranking and
> sometimes it does not, shuts off, and retries, usually
> succesfully.
>
> If any of you have a Honda manual handy and can look up
> the tacho wire color/location for me, I'd appreciate it!


I don't have a manual handy (haven't been in that biz for a few years now),
but here are some tricks.

- You can always find the tach wire at the coil under the hood. Then it
will just be 1 of 4 wires to test instead of 100.

- Use a DMM to verify it is the tach. Set DMM to read A/C voltage. Attach
positive probe to positive side of battery. Use negative probe to test and
see if target wire is tach. DMM should display close to actual RPM when you
find the right wire.




Randolph 01-11-2004 04:19 PM

Re: remote starter help
 
That would work, except I am pretty sure the 2000 Passport has a
distributorless ignition system and you won't find a conventional single
coil.

Honda seems to favor blue for the tachometer signal. It is blue on my
'94 Civic, it was blue on my '87 Civic and it was blue on my friend's
'96 Accord. There is usually a connection for a test tachometer
somewhere under the hood. If you find it, and it has a blue lead going
to it, I would feel comfortable using the blue wire for the starter
system.

Seth wrote:
>
> "David Fritz" <davidfritz@earthlink.com> wrote in message
> news:898Mb.4268$zj7.3388@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net
> > I was wondering if anyone can provide the wire color of
> > the tachometer wire on 2000 Honda Passport. I understand
> > it is located in Drivers Kick Panel, but do not have a
> > schematic for it. I am doing an install for my niece; a
> > remote starter. It works fine, but there is a
> > programming mode to sense the tach and "teach" the unit
> > when to quit cranking. Sometimes it quits cranking and
> > sometimes it does not, shuts off, and retries, usually
> > succesfully.
> >
> > If any of you have a Honda manual handy and can look up
> > the tacho wire color/location for me, I'd appreciate it!

>
> I don't have a manual handy (haven't been in that biz for a few years now),
> but here are some tricks.
>
> - You can always find the tach wire at the coil under the hood. Then it
> will just be 1 of 4 wires to test instead of 100.
>
> - Use a DMM to verify it is the tach. Set DMM to read A/C voltage. Attach
> positive probe to positive side of battery. Use negative probe to test and
> see if target wire is tach. DMM should display close to actual RPM when you
> find the right wire.


Randolph 01-11-2004 04:19 PM

Re: remote starter help
 
That would work, except I am pretty sure the 2000 Passport has a
distributorless ignition system and you won't find a conventional single
coil.

Honda seems to favor blue for the tachometer signal. It is blue on my
'94 Civic, it was blue on my '87 Civic and it was blue on my friend's
'96 Accord. There is usually a connection for a test tachometer
somewhere under the hood. If you find it, and it has a blue lead going
to it, I would feel comfortable using the blue wire for the starter
system.

Seth wrote:
>
> "David Fritz" <davidfritz@earthlink.com> wrote in message
> news:898Mb.4268$zj7.3388@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net
> > I was wondering if anyone can provide the wire color of
> > the tachometer wire on 2000 Honda Passport. I understand
> > it is located in Drivers Kick Panel, but do not have a
> > schematic for it. I am doing an install for my niece; a
> > remote starter. It works fine, but there is a
> > programming mode to sense the tach and "teach" the unit
> > when to quit cranking. Sometimes it quits cranking and
> > sometimes it does not, shuts off, and retries, usually
> > succesfully.
> >
> > If any of you have a Honda manual handy and can look up
> > the tacho wire color/location for me, I'd appreciate it!

>
> I don't have a manual handy (haven't been in that biz for a few years now),
> but here are some tricks.
>
> - You can always find the tach wire at the coil under the hood. Then it
> will just be 1 of 4 wires to test instead of 100.
>
> - Use a DMM to verify it is the tach. Set DMM to read A/C voltage. Attach
> positive probe to positive side of battery. Use negative probe to test and
> see if target wire is tach. DMM should display close to actual RPM when you
> find the right wire.


Randolph 01-11-2004 04:19 PM

Re: remote starter help
 
That would work, except I am pretty sure the 2000 Passport has a
distributorless ignition system and you won't find a conventional single
coil.

Honda seems to favor blue for the tachometer signal. It is blue on my
'94 Civic, it was blue on my '87 Civic and it was blue on my friend's
'96 Accord. There is usually a connection for a test tachometer
somewhere under the hood. If you find it, and it has a blue lead going
to it, I would feel comfortable using the blue wire for the starter
system.

Seth wrote:
>
> "David Fritz" <davidfritz@earthlink.com> wrote in message
> news:898Mb.4268$zj7.3388@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net
> > I was wondering if anyone can provide the wire color of
> > the tachometer wire on 2000 Honda Passport. I understand
> > it is located in Drivers Kick Panel, but do not have a
> > schematic for it. I am doing an install for my niece; a
> > remote starter. It works fine, but there is a
> > programming mode to sense the tach and "teach" the unit
> > when to quit cranking. Sometimes it quits cranking and
> > sometimes it does not, shuts off, and retries, usually
> > succesfully.
> >
> > If any of you have a Honda manual handy and can look up
> > the tacho wire color/location for me, I'd appreciate it!

>
> I don't have a manual handy (haven't been in that biz for a few years now),
> but here are some tricks.
>
> - You can always find the tach wire at the coil under the hood. Then it
> will just be 1 of 4 wires to test instead of 100.
>
> - Use a DMM to verify it is the tach. Set DMM to read A/C voltage. Attach
> positive probe to positive side of battery. Use negative probe to test and
> see if target wire is tach. DMM should display close to actual RPM when you
> find the right wire.


Randolph 01-11-2004 04:19 PM

Re: remote starter help
 
That would work, except I am pretty sure the 2000 Passport has a
distributorless ignition system and you won't find a conventional single
coil.

Honda seems to favor blue for the tachometer signal. It is blue on my
'94 Civic, it was blue on my '87 Civic and it was blue on my friend's
'96 Accord. There is usually a connection for a test tachometer
somewhere under the hood. If you find it, and it has a blue lead going
to it, I would feel comfortable using the blue wire for the starter
system.

Seth wrote:
>
> "David Fritz" <davidfritz@earthlink.com> wrote in message
> news:898Mb.4268$zj7.3388@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net
> > I was wondering if anyone can provide the wire color of
> > the tachometer wire on 2000 Honda Passport. I understand
> > it is located in Drivers Kick Panel, but do not have a
> > schematic for it. I am doing an install for my niece; a
> > remote starter. It works fine, but there is a
> > programming mode to sense the tach and "teach" the unit
> > when to quit cranking. Sometimes it quits cranking and
> > sometimes it does not, shuts off, and retries, usually
> > succesfully.
> >
> > If any of you have a Honda manual handy and can look up
> > the tacho wire color/location for me, I'd appreciate it!

>
> I don't have a manual handy (haven't been in that biz for a few years now),
> but here are some tricks.
>
> - You can always find the tach wire at the coil under the hood. Then it
> will just be 1 of 4 wires to test instead of 100.
>
> - Use a DMM to verify it is the tach. Set DMM to read A/C voltage. Attach
> positive probe to positive side of battery. Use negative probe to test and
> see if target wire is tach. DMM should display close to actual RPM when you
> find the right wire.


Seth 01-11-2004 04:56 PM

Re: remote starter help
 
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:4001BE14.7C041872@junkmail.com
> That would work, except I am pretty sure the 2000
> Passport has a distributorless ignition system and you
> won't find a conventional single coil.


Doesn't have any coil? Or multiple coils? Multiple coils is fine,
especially with a learning tach. In the case of the old Chevy motors with 1
coil per 2 cylinders for example, each coil, when using the DMM test, would
read 1/3 actual RPM.

Either way, if the wire under the dash or kick panel is a true tach signal,
the DMM test I mentioned should still apply.



Seth 01-11-2004 04:56 PM

Re: remote starter help
 
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:4001BE14.7C041872@junkmail.com
> That would work, except I am pretty sure the 2000
> Passport has a distributorless ignition system and you
> won't find a conventional single coil.


Doesn't have any coil? Or multiple coils? Multiple coils is fine,
especially with a learning tach. In the case of the old Chevy motors with 1
coil per 2 cylinders for example, each coil, when using the DMM test, would
read 1/3 actual RPM.

Either way, if the wire under the dash or kick panel is a true tach signal,
the DMM test I mentioned should still apply.



Seth 01-11-2004 04:56 PM

Re: remote starter help
 
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:4001BE14.7C041872@junkmail.com
> That would work, except I am pretty sure the 2000
> Passport has a distributorless ignition system and you
> won't find a conventional single coil.


Doesn't have any coil? Or multiple coils? Multiple coils is fine,
especially with a learning tach. In the case of the old Chevy motors with 1
coil per 2 cylinders for example, each coil, when using the DMM test, would
read 1/3 actual RPM.

Either way, if the wire under the dash or kick panel is a true tach signal,
the DMM test I mentioned should still apply.



Seth 01-11-2004 04:56 PM

Re: remote starter help
 
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:4001BE14.7C041872@junkmail.com
> That would work, except I am pretty sure the 2000
> Passport has a distributorless ignition system and you
> won't find a conventional single coil.


Doesn't have any coil? Or multiple coils? Multiple coils is fine,
especially with a learning tach. In the case of the old Chevy motors with 1
coil per 2 cylinders for example, each coil, when using the DMM test, would
read 1/3 actual RPM.

Either way, if the wire under the dash or kick panel is a true tach signal,
the DMM test I mentioned should still apply.



Randolph 01-11-2004 05:47 PM

Re: remote starter help
 
> Doesn't have any coil? Or multiple coils? Multiple coils is fine,
> especially with a learning tach. In the case of the old Chevy motors with 1


I realized too late that my statement was ambiguous. It does not have
one single coil, it has 6 coils.

> Either way, if the wire under the dash or kick panel is a true tach signal,
> the DMM test I mentioned should still apply.


Randolph 01-11-2004 05:47 PM

Re: remote starter help
 
> Doesn't have any coil? Or multiple coils? Multiple coils is fine,
> especially with a learning tach. In the case of the old Chevy motors with 1


I realized too late that my statement was ambiguous. It does not have
one single coil, it has 6 coils.

> Either way, if the wire under the dash or kick panel is a true tach signal,
> the DMM test I mentioned should still apply.



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