Replace front axle lug bolts
Anyone have experience in replacing theses bolts? Its on a 2000 Civic
hatch. While taking the right wheel off, one lug nut-bolt combo broke off; and every single one on the left side frozed up and broke off. This must be a manfac defect in parts siezing up. Never had an entire wheels worth of lug bolts/nuts break right off one after another. Back in the good days with large muscle cars equipped with discs, it was simple enough to take off the brake caliper; peel off the center bearing nut and everything came right out in your hand; making knocking these broken bolts out a simple tap with a 10 pound hammer. How goes it with a Civic and a CV axle? I don't want to mess with trying to get the halfshaft out to get to it. I have a clear whack at tapping the broken studs out front the front; but can it be done that way, or is there something behind the caliper preventing this? Finally: where do you find replacement lug bolts/nuts? Don't say DEALER ONLY. I know how they treasure their little parts bins as though they were mini gold mines. |
Re: Replace front axle lug bolts
PTS Express,
I would be willing to bet that the lug nuts were over tightened. If not the last time, then sometime in the past it was over tight- ened which made it weaker. Now, to solve the problem; I'm not sure if the 2000 civic uses the easy to replace rotor or "the pain in the butt" system Honda used the pain in the butt system, in the nineties. I worked on a 97 Accord with the pain in the butt type and you have to take the axle out out the hub and beat the life out of it. My 2001 accord, uses the 2 screw system (yea!!!!!). See if your hub looks like the one in the web page below. If so, bad news. This page was a lifesaver when I went to replace the rotors. I could not have done it with out this useful little bit of info. Unlike the doc, I did mine on the work bench. http://www.federal-mogul.com/fmeconn...loads/3501.pdf If it has two screws holding the rotor to the hub, just remove the rotor and it is easy. Good luck, chuck PTS-EXPRESS wrote: > Anyone have experience in replacing theses bolts? Its on a 2000 Civic > hatch. > While taking the right wheel off, one lug nut-bolt combo broke off; > and every single one on the left side frozed up and broke off. This > must be a manfac defect in parts siezing up. Never had an entire > wheels worth of lug bolts/nuts break right off one after another. > > Back in the good days with large muscle cars equipped with discs, it > was simple enough to take off the brake caliper; peel off the center > bearing nut and everything came right out in your hand; making > knocking these broken bolts out a simple tap with a 10 pound hammer. > > How goes it with a Civic and a CV axle? I don't want to mess with > trying to get the halfshaft out to get to it. I have a clear whack at > tapping the broken studs out front the front; but can it be done that > way, or is there something behind the caliper preventing this? > > Finally: where do you find replacement lug bolts/nuts? Don't say > DEALER ONLY. > I know how they treasure their little parts bins as though they were > mini gold mines. |
Re: Replace front axle lug bolts
PTS Express,
I would be willing to bet that the lug nuts were over tightened. If not the last time, then sometime in the past it was over tight- ened which made it weaker. Now, to solve the problem; I'm not sure if the 2000 civic uses the easy to replace rotor or "the pain in the butt" system Honda used the pain in the butt system, in the nineties. I worked on a 97 Accord with the pain in the butt type and you have to take the axle out out the hub and beat the life out of it. My 2001 accord, uses the 2 screw system (yea!!!!!). See if your hub looks like the one in the web page below. If so, bad news. This page was a lifesaver when I went to replace the rotors. I could not have done it with out this useful little bit of info. Unlike the doc, I did mine on the work bench. http://www.federal-mogul.com/fmeconn...loads/3501.pdf If it has two screws holding the rotor to the hub, just remove the rotor and it is easy. Good luck, chuck PTS-EXPRESS wrote: > Anyone have experience in replacing theses bolts? Its on a 2000 Civic > hatch. > While taking the right wheel off, one lug nut-bolt combo broke off; > and every single one on the left side frozed up and broke off. This > must be a manfac defect in parts siezing up. Never had an entire > wheels worth of lug bolts/nuts break right off one after another. > > Back in the good days with large muscle cars equipped with discs, it > was simple enough to take off the brake caliper; peel off the center > bearing nut and everything came right out in your hand; making > knocking these broken bolts out a simple tap with a 10 pound hammer. > > How goes it with a Civic and a CV axle? I don't want to mess with > trying to get the halfshaft out to get to it. I have a clear whack at > tapping the broken studs out front the front; but can it be done that > way, or is there something behind the caliper preventing this? > > Finally: where do you find replacement lug bolts/nuts? Don't say > DEALER ONLY. > I know how they treasure their little parts bins as though they were > mini gold mines. |
Re: Replace front axle lug bolts
PTS Express,
I would be willing to bet that the lug nuts were over tightened. If not the last time, then sometime in the past it was over tight- ened which made it weaker. Now, to solve the problem; I'm not sure if the 2000 civic uses the easy to replace rotor or "the pain in the butt" system Honda used the pain in the butt system, in the nineties. I worked on a 97 Accord with the pain in the butt type and you have to take the axle out out the hub and beat the life out of it. My 2001 accord, uses the 2 screw system (yea!!!!!). See if your hub looks like the one in the web page below. If so, bad news. This page was a lifesaver when I went to replace the rotors. I could not have done it with out this useful little bit of info. Unlike the doc, I did mine on the work bench. http://www.federal-mogul.com/fmeconn...loads/3501.pdf If it has two screws holding the rotor to the hub, just remove the rotor and it is easy. Good luck, chuck PTS-EXPRESS wrote: > Anyone have experience in replacing theses bolts? Its on a 2000 Civic > hatch. > While taking the right wheel off, one lug nut-bolt combo broke off; > and every single one on the left side frozed up and broke off. This > must be a manfac defect in parts siezing up. Never had an entire > wheels worth of lug bolts/nuts break right off one after another. > > Back in the good days with large muscle cars equipped with discs, it > was simple enough to take off the brake caliper; peel off the center > bearing nut and everything came right out in your hand; making > knocking these broken bolts out a simple tap with a 10 pound hammer. > > How goes it with a Civic and a CV axle? I don't want to mess with > trying to get the halfshaft out to get to it. I have a clear whack at > tapping the broken studs out front the front; but can it be done that > way, or is there something behind the caliper preventing this? > > Finally: where do you find replacement lug bolts/nuts? Don't say > DEALER ONLY. > I know how they treasure their little parts bins as though they were > mini gold mines. |
Re: Replace front axle lug bolts
PTS Express,
I would be willing to bet that the lug nuts were over tightened. If not the last time, then sometime in the past it was over tight- ened which made it weaker. Now, to solve the problem; I'm not sure if the 2000 civic uses the easy to replace rotor or "the pain in the butt" system Honda used the pain in the butt system, in the nineties. I worked on a 97 Accord with the pain in the butt type and you have to take the axle out out the hub and beat the life out of it. My 2001 accord, uses the 2 screw system (yea!!!!!). See if your hub looks like the one in the web page below. If so, bad news. This page was a lifesaver when I went to replace the rotors. I could not have done it with out this useful little bit of info. Unlike the doc, I did mine on the work bench. http://www.federal-mogul.com/fmeconn...loads/3501.pdf If it has two screws holding the rotor to the hub, just remove the rotor and it is easy. Good luck, chuck PTS-EXPRESS wrote: > Anyone have experience in replacing theses bolts? Its on a 2000 Civic > hatch. > While taking the right wheel off, one lug nut-bolt combo broke off; > and every single one on the left side frozed up and broke off. This > must be a manfac defect in parts siezing up. Never had an entire > wheels worth of lug bolts/nuts break right off one after another. > > Back in the good days with large muscle cars equipped with discs, it > was simple enough to take off the brake caliper; peel off the center > bearing nut and everything came right out in your hand; making > knocking these broken bolts out a simple tap with a 10 pound hammer. > > How goes it with a Civic and a CV axle? I don't want to mess with > trying to get the halfshaft out to get to it. I have a clear whack at > tapping the broken studs out front the front; but can it be done that > way, or is there something behind the caliper preventing this? > > Finally: where do you find replacement lug bolts/nuts? Don't say > DEALER ONLY. > I know how they treasure their little parts bins as though they were > mini gold mines. |
Re: Replace front axle lug bolts
PTS-EXPRESS wrote:
> > Anyone have experience in replacing theses bolts? Its on a 2000 Civic > hatch. > While taking the right wheel off, one lug nut-bolt combo broke off; > and every single one on the left side frozed up and broke off. This > must be a manfac defect in parts siezing up. Never had an entire > wheels worth of lug bolts/nuts break right off one after another. > > Back in the good days with large muscle cars equipped with discs, it > was simple enough to take off the brake caliper; peel off the center > bearing nut and everything came right out in your hand; making > knocking these broken bolts out a simple tap with a 10 pound hammer. > > How goes it with a Civic and a CV axle? I don't want to mess with > trying to get the halfshaft out to get to it. I have a clear whack at > tapping the broken studs out front the front; but can it be done that > way, or is there something behind the caliper preventing this? > > Finally: where do you find replacement lug bolts/nuts? Don't say > DEALER ONLY. > I know how they treasure their little parts bins as though they were > mini gold mines. Here's a link to a page that shows an exploded diagram of the 2000 Civic front brake rotor, http://tinyurl.com/3xovq followed by a link to an exploded diagram of the front knuckle, http://tinyurl.com/2hbbb. From these diagrams, it looks like the rotor should be relatively easy to remove. However, the lug studs are pressed into the hub which is pressed into the steering knuckle along with the wheel bearing. I have not worked on a 2000 Civic, but it may be possible to knock the lug studs out of the hub without pressing hub free from the wheel bearing. If in doubt, you can purchase a factory service manual from http://www.helminc.com. Eric |
Re: Replace front axle lug bolts
PTS-EXPRESS wrote:
> > Anyone have experience in replacing theses bolts? Its on a 2000 Civic > hatch. > While taking the right wheel off, one lug nut-bolt combo broke off; > and every single one on the left side frozed up and broke off. This > must be a manfac defect in parts siezing up. Never had an entire > wheels worth of lug bolts/nuts break right off one after another. > > Back in the good days with large muscle cars equipped with discs, it > was simple enough to take off the brake caliper; peel off the center > bearing nut and everything came right out in your hand; making > knocking these broken bolts out a simple tap with a 10 pound hammer. > > How goes it with a Civic and a CV axle? I don't want to mess with > trying to get the halfshaft out to get to it. I have a clear whack at > tapping the broken studs out front the front; but can it be done that > way, or is there something behind the caliper preventing this? > > Finally: where do you find replacement lug bolts/nuts? Don't say > DEALER ONLY. > I know how they treasure their little parts bins as though they were > mini gold mines. Here's a link to a page that shows an exploded diagram of the 2000 Civic front brake rotor, http://tinyurl.com/3xovq followed by a link to an exploded diagram of the front knuckle, http://tinyurl.com/2hbbb. From these diagrams, it looks like the rotor should be relatively easy to remove. However, the lug studs are pressed into the hub which is pressed into the steering knuckle along with the wheel bearing. I have not worked on a 2000 Civic, but it may be possible to knock the lug studs out of the hub without pressing hub free from the wheel bearing. If in doubt, you can purchase a factory service manual from http://www.helminc.com. Eric |
Re: Replace front axle lug bolts
PTS-EXPRESS wrote:
> > Anyone have experience in replacing theses bolts? Its on a 2000 Civic > hatch. > While taking the right wheel off, one lug nut-bolt combo broke off; > and every single one on the left side frozed up and broke off. This > must be a manfac defect in parts siezing up. Never had an entire > wheels worth of lug bolts/nuts break right off one after another. > > Back in the good days with large muscle cars equipped with discs, it > was simple enough to take off the brake caliper; peel off the center > bearing nut and everything came right out in your hand; making > knocking these broken bolts out a simple tap with a 10 pound hammer. > > How goes it with a Civic and a CV axle? I don't want to mess with > trying to get the halfshaft out to get to it. I have a clear whack at > tapping the broken studs out front the front; but can it be done that > way, or is there something behind the caliper preventing this? > > Finally: where do you find replacement lug bolts/nuts? Don't say > DEALER ONLY. > I know how they treasure their little parts bins as though they were > mini gold mines. Here's a link to a page that shows an exploded diagram of the 2000 Civic front brake rotor, http://tinyurl.com/3xovq followed by a link to an exploded diagram of the front knuckle, http://tinyurl.com/2hbbb. From these diagrams, it looks like the rotor should be relatively easy to remove. However, the lug studs are pressed into the hub which is pressed into the steering knuckle along with the wheel bearing. I have not worked on a 2000 Civic, but it may be possible to knock the lug studs out of the hub without pressing hub free from the wheel bearing. If in doubt, you can purchase a factory service manual from http://www.helminc.com. Eric |
Re: Replace front axle lug bolts
PTS-EXPRESS wrote:
> > Anyone have experience in replacing theses bolts? Its on a 2000 Civic > hatch. > While taking the right wheel off, one lug nut-bolt combo broke off; > and every single one on the left side frozed up and broke off. This > must be a manfac defect in parts siezing up. Never had an entire > wheels worth of lug bolts/nuts break right off one after another. > > Back in the good days with large muscle cars equipped with discs, it > was simple enough to take off the brake caliper; peel off the center > bearing nut and everything came right out in your hand; making > knocking these broken bolts out a simple tap with a 10 pound hammer. > > How goes it with a Civic and a CV axle? I don't want to mess with > trying to get the halfshaft out to get to it. I have a clear whack at > tapping the broken studs out front the front; but can it be done that > way, or is there something behind the caliper preventing this? > > Finally: where do you find replacement lug bolts/nuts? Don't say > DEALER ONLY. > I know how they treasure their little parts bins as though they were > mini gold mines. Here's a link to a page that shows an exploded diagram of the 2000 Civic front brake rotor, http://tinyurl.com/3xovq followed by a link to an exploded diagram of the front knuckle, http://tinyurl.com/2hbbb. From these diagrams, it looks like the rotor should be relatively easy to remove. However, the lug studs are pressed into the hub which is pressed into the steering knuckle along with the wheel bearing. I have not worked on a 2000 Civic, but it may be possible to knock the lug studs out of the hub without pressing hub free from the wheel bearing. If in doubt, you can purchase a factory service manual from http://www.helminc.com. Eric |
Re: Replace front axle lug bolts
chuck smoko wrote:
> http://www.federal-mogul.com/fmeconn...loads/3501.pdf Do you have any info or a link to an index for these PDFs? Or perhaps a clue to the numbering system used? Thanks, Eric |
Re: Replace front axle lug bolts
chuck smoko wrote:
> http://www.federal-mogul.com/fmeconn...loads/3501.pdf Do you have any info or a link to an index for these PDFs? Or perhaps a clue to the numbering system used? Thanks, Eric |
Re: Replace front axle lug bolts
chuck smoko wrote:
> http://www.federal-mogul.com/fmeconn...loads/3501.pdf Do you have any info or a link to an index for these PDFs? Or perhaps a clue to the numbering system used? Thanks, Eric |
Re: Replace front axle lug bolts
chuck smoko wrote:
> http://www.federal-mogul.com/fmeconn...loads/3501.pdf Do you have any info or a link to an index for these PDFs? Or perhaps a clue to the numbering system used? Thanks, Eric |
Re: Replace front axle lug bolts
bet you have lug nuts that are like caps.... i had these on a 83
mustange years ago and they just about all broke off.... went to an auto parts store like Car Quest and the guy handed me the four i needed.. it had a stamp on the center of the stud that was "R" i asked him if that meant Right and he said yes.. i then told him it was for the left hand side of the car.. he laughed and said that it was for right hand thread.. he told me that they were all the same except for the ones that are marked "L" for left... i got a 2001 civic and have the cap type nuts also.. you got to be careful with the guys at the tire shops they put so much torque on the nuts that to get them off with the little tire wrench we have you cannot remove them.. when you turn the wrench it is not turning, but pushing down or up and not being driven in a complete circle ( i think the term would be not concentric??)... get a good cross shaped tire tool and you will not have any more broken bolts.. you can probably go to any old time auto parts store(not the auto zone or the pep boys or advance auto parts)... and get them, pretty cheap, when i got them they were like 50 cents each(some years ago)........ i would take a look at the back of the rotor to see if you have an open space behind there that you can turn the wheel to and then just hit them out with a large hammer and a punch....... |
Re: Replace front axle lug bolts
bet you have lug nuts that are like caps.... i had these on a 83
mustange years ago and they just about all broke off.... went to an auto parts store like Car Quest and the guy handed me the four i needed.. it had a stamp on the center of the stud that was "R" i asked him if that meant Right and he said yes.. i then told him it was for the left hand side of the car.. he laughed and said that it was for right hand thread.. he told me that they were all the same except for the ones that are marked "L" for left... i got a 2001 civic and have the cap type nuts also.. you got to be careful with the guys at the tire shops they put so much torque on the nuts that to get them off with the little tire wrench we have you cannot remove them.. when you turn the wrench it is not turning, but pushing down or up and not being driven in a complete circle ( i think the term would be not concentric??)... get a good cross shaped tire tool and you will not have any more broken bolts.. you can probably go to any old time auto parts store(not the auto zone or the pep boys or advance auto parts)... and get them, pretty cheap, when i got them they were like 50 cents each(some years ago)........ i would take a look at the back of the rotor to see if you have an open space behind there that you can turn the wheel to and then just hit them out with a large hammer and a punch....... |
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